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(Screen Rant)   Network executives threatened to fire two Friends cast members during salary negotiations, claiming that they could do a hit show with just four, and later going on to prove they could even achieve that with just Joey   (screenrant.com) divider line
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2021-12-09 1:39:09 PM  
Damnit, at first I read that as "threatened to fire on".  I mean, I know the entertainment industry gets pretty rough at times, but still...
 
2021-12-09 3:25:43 PM  
Wait, people considered that Joey show a success? I tried to watch it a couple of times and it was flat.
 
2021-12-09 3:30:12 PM  
Old News is So Exciting!

Seriously, this was known back when the show as still going. It was a pretty big deal (at least in regards to hollywood shiat) that they all basically said "You get all of us, or none of us" and called the studio's bluff.

I'm sure it also made shiat on set much easier since there was no resentment/issues with one actor being paid a shiat-ton more than others.
 
2021-12-09 3:48:35 PM  
They could have done it without Ross.

Probably even better.
 
2021-12-09 3:49:51 PM  

Mikey1969: Wait, people considered that Joey show a success? I tried to watch it a couple of times and it was flat.


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2021-12-09 3:54:45 PM  
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2021-12-09 4:01:44 PM  
I don't know if it's because I never watched while it was on air, but I tried watching the show and I couldn't get into it.

The entire premise of Rachel's presence is completely mystifying to me. "I used to bully you and use you as a personal punching bag, but I just ran away from my wedding and have no place else to stay so will you let me use you as a free place to stay?"

I probably just need to power through to get to the "good" episodes where the cast might win me over but... my god the characters are insufferable.
 
2021-12-09 4:04:17 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Old News is So Exciting!


It's new to me. Not everybody follows the history of every sh*tty television show out there.
 
2021-12-09 4:06:42 PM  
The story is dumb in general, but also: not agreeing on a new contract with an actor is not the same thing as firing them.
 
2021-12-09 4:08:41 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: I don't know if it's because I never watched while it was on air, but I tried watching the show and I couldn't get into it.

The entire premise of Rachel's presence is completely mystifying to me. "I used to bully you and use you as a personal punching bag, but I just ran away from my wedding and have no place else to stay so will you let me use you as a free place to stay?"

I probably just need to power through to get to the "good" episodes where the cast might win me over but... my god the characters are insufferable.


After the first couple seasons it did fall into a rhythm where it was a clinic on sitcom writing.  Perfect characterization. In the beginning?  Annoying, although it was a product of it's era.

And Rachel never bullied Monica.  She was one of her only true friends back in high school as the very funny flashbacks showed.

The first couple years and the last year or two are pretty meh, but the middle bit is well done.
 
2021-12-09 4:09:35 PM  

Spice Must Flow: [Fark user image image 425x532]


There are two Bs in "Tribbiani."

I know, the point is moo.
 
2021-12-09 4:19:25 PM  
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2021-12-09 4:19:29 PM  

Jack Sabbath: Cthulhu Theory: I don't know if it's because I never watched while it was on air, but I tried watching the show and I couldn't get into it.

The entire premise of Rachel's presence is completely mystifying to me. "I used to bully you and use you as a personal punching bag, but I just ran away from my wedding and have no place else to stay so will you let me use you as a free place to stay?"

I probably just need to power through to get to the "good" episodes where the cast might win me over but... my god the characters are insufferable.

After the first couple seasons it did fall into a rhythm where it was a clinic on sitcom writing.  Perfect characterization. In the beginning?  Annoying, although it was a product of it's era.

And Rachel never bullied Monica.  She was one of her only true friends back in high school as the very funny flashbacks showed.

The first couple years and the last year or two are pretty meh, but the middle bit is well done.


I could have sworn in the first episode or two it was revealed that that whole friendship was extremely one-sided, and that was basically Monica's justification for taking Rachel in.....

Goddamnit, I don't wanna re-watch it. :(
 
2021-12-09 4:20:18 PM  

Michael J Faux: The story is dumb in general, but also: not agreeing on a new contract with an actor is not the same thing as firing them.


Tell that to Carano.
 
2021-12-09 4:22:00 PM  
IHMO, David Schwimmer is vastly over-rated as an actor. Dump him and Joey, since Joey was the one-dimensional dumb guy.

So, instead of "Three Guys and a Girl", you have "Three Girls and a Guy". The 3 women are in Monica's apartment, but since it has 2 bedrooms, one of them is always on the sofa. Chandler is alone in his apartment, so has an empty bedroom.

You have several seasons of each woman moving in with Chandler, each under the impression that he's gay. However, when he gets a bit flirty with each of them, it makes the woman uncomfortable and she retreats to Monica's apartment.

Finally, it's Monica's turn in Chandler's apartment, but she isn't put off by his advances. The big cliffhanger-reveal is that not only is Chandler straight, but he and Monica have been knocking boots the entire time, even when the other women were living there. The last season is Monica and Chandler getting married. They move into Monica's apartment, and the other 2 move into Chandler's apartment.

The show had good writers, so they could have made it work. Have Rachel and Gunther finally hook up. Rachel's family has the money, so they buy the coffee shop for Rachel and Gunther to run. Phoebe does her usual weird stuff, along with her twin sister Ursula showing up occasionally.

Half the male viewers probably just tuned in to see Aniston and get an idea of how cold it was on the set.
 
2021-12-09 4:26:55 PM  

Heamer: scottydoesntknow: Old News is So Exciting!

It's new to me. Not everybody follows the history of every sh*tty television show out there.


It's less Friends news, and more general Hollywood news. A studio paying $6M/episode just to the principal cast is pretty big. For comparison, an hour-long episode of Game of Thrones with all the CGI dragons and shiat averaged around $10-$12M ($6M in earlier seasons).

Setting records usually reaches beyond the normal fans. Sorry you missed it 30 years ago.
 
2021-12-09 4:32:48 PM  
Preferably like this 
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/except only eat two of course
 
2021-12-09 4:59:05 PM  
Nah.


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2021-12-09 5:01:01 PM  
Yeah I think they could've done it with just four.
They cut Chandler out of like half a season when he went to rehab
 
2021-12-09 5:02:47 PM  

Cthulhu Theory: I don't know if it's because I never watched while it was on air, but I tried watching the show and I couldn't get into it.

The entire premise of Rachel's presence is completely mystifying to me. "I used to bully you and use you as a personal punching bag, but I just ran away from my wedding and have no place else to stay so will you let me use you as a free place to stay?"

I probably just need to power through to get to the "good" episodes where the cast might win me over but... my god the characters are insufferable.


This was a good episode. I forget what season it was from.

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2021-12-09 5:02:51 PM  

moothemagiccow: Yeah I think they could've done it with just four.
They cut Chandler out of like half a season when he went to rehab


Could he BE any more high?

/The answer was 'Yes'
 
2021-12-09 5:03:48 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Mikey1969: Wait, people considered that Joey show a success? I tried to watch it a couple of times and it was flat.

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OK, it's been a long month since I got up this morning, so yeah, I totally missed that! :-)
 
2021-12-09 5:14:21 PM  

Kris_Romm: Nah.


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Adriana was in that show?? Would love if Joey was a Sopranos spin off.
 
2021-12-09 5:24:23 PM  

iron_city_ap: Cthulhu Theory: I don't know if it's because I never watched while it was on air, but I tried watching the show and I couldn't get into it.

The entire premise of Rachel's presence is completely mystifying to me. "I used to bully you and use you as a personal punching bag, but I just ran away from my wedding and have no place else to stay so will you let me use you as a free place to stay?"

I probably just need to power through to get to the "good" episodes where the cast might win me over but... my god the characters are insufferable.

This was a good episode. I forget what season it was from.

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I think bras were optional sometimes on that (air conditioned) set:


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2021-12-09 5:30:54 PM  
Friends does not hold up well. Over thanksgiving we watched The One Where Ross Got High, which used to be one of my favorite episodes. Lots of allusions toward sexual harassment/assault, like trying to get Elle McPhereson's character to walk around naked in Joey's by turning up the heat in the apartment. Or saying they wanted to go to her party because there would be lots of drunk girls there. It's just kinda creepy in retrospect. There's even a line "dude, they're women not objects. just kidding, let's go!"
 
2021-12-09 5:46:11 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Friends does not hold up well. Over thanksgiving we watched The One Where Ross Got High, which used to be one of my favorite episodes. Lots of allusions toward sexual harassment/assault, like trying to get Elle McPhereson's character to walk around naked in Joey's by turning up the heat in the apartment. Or saying they wanted to go to her party because there would be lots of drunk girls there. It's just kinda creepy in retrospect. There's even a line "dude, they're women not objects. just kidding, let's go!"


I didn't find most of it funny even back then. Friends thrived on certain jokes as set pieces.  Joey is dumb but charming to women.  Ross is a sad sack.  Monica is super type A.  Rachel is exhaustingly high maintenance.  Phoebe is a weirdo.  Chandler is sarcastic.  There wasn't much more to it, other than jokes that were bound to age badly.

To me, Seinfeld ages better, because if you paid attention back then, you always realized they were despicable.  Unlike Friends, you aren't supposed to like them or expect they're not going to seem sexist, rude, etc. increasingly as years go by.  George was always a pervert. Kramer was inherently selfish.  Elaine was always narcissistic.  Jerry was always snooty and conceited in his observational humor, always a frustrating prick.  Their archetypes age better than Friends, because if you liked watching them in the first place, it was because you took a perverse enjoyment out of seeing what little shiats they were (also why the ending of that show worked for me, personally).
 
2021-12-09 6:18:25 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Old News is So Exciting!


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Seriously, this was known back when the show as still going. It was a pretty big deal (at least in regards to hollywood shiat) that they all basically said "You get all of us, or none of us" and called the studio's bluff.

I'm sure it also made shiat on set much easier since there was no resentment/issues with one actor being paid a shiat-ton more than others.


...one of the [studio's] threats was, "Well, we don't need all six of you. We can do this with four of you."


How about none? Can you do it with none?
 
2021-12-09 6:26:20 PM  

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You make some good points.
 
2021-12-09 6:52:27 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Friends does not hold up well. Over thanksgiving we watched The One Where Ross Got High, which used to be one of my favorite episodes. Lots of allusions toward sexual harassment/assault, like trying to get Elle McPhereson's character to walk around naked in Joey's by turning up the heat in the apartment. Or saying they wanted to go to her party because there would be lots of drunk girls there. It's just kinda creepy in retrospect. There's even a line "dude, they're women not objects. just kidding, let's go!"


Oh no. I hope you were able to find a safe space to recover.
 
2021-12-09 7:01:54 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Friends does not hold up well. Over thanksgiving we watched The One Where Ross Got High, which used to be one of my favorite episodes. Lots of allusions toward sexual harassment/assault, like trying to get Elle McPhereson's character to walk around naked in Joey's by turning up the heat in the apartment. Or saying they wanted to go to her party because there would be lots of drunk girls there. It's just kinda creepy in retrospect. There's even a line "dude, they're women not objects. just kidding, let's go!"


Isn't that true of pretty much any sitcom though? They follow the formula that's got laughs in previous epidodes.
 
2021-12-09 8:06:58 PM  
I still watch Friends occasionally if I'm flipping through channels or on HBOMax. For network TV it was certainly better than most offerings. And Phoebe always cracks me up. Harmless fun.
 
2021-12-09 9:15:35 PM  

ununcle: Karma Chameleon: Friends does not hold up well. Over thanksgiving we watched The One Where Ross Got High, which used to be one of my favorite episodes. Lots of allusions toward sexual harassment/assault, like trying to get Elle McPhereson's character to walk around naked in Joey's by turning up the heat in the apartment. Or saying they wanted to go to her party because there would be lots of drunk girls there. It's just kinda creepy in retrospect. There's even a line "dude, they're women not objects. just kidding, let's go!"

Oh no. I hope you were able to find a safe space to recover.


ununcle: Karma Chameleon: Friends does not hold up well. Over thanksgiving we watched The One Where Ross Got High, which used to be one of my favorite episodes. Lots of allusions toward sexual harassment/assault, like trying to get Elle McPhereson's character to walk around naked in Joey's by turning up the heat in the apartment. Or saying they wanted to go to her party because there would be lots of drunk girls there. It's just kinda creepy in retrospect. There's even a line "dude, they're women not objects. just kidding, let's go!"

Oh no. I hope you were able to find a safe space to recover.


I thought it was hilarious when I was a virgin in jr high. Pretty happy I've evolved.
 
2021-12-10 3:06:56 AM  

Karma Chameleon: ununcle: Karma Chameleon: Friends does not hold up well. Over thanksgiving we watched The One Where Ross Got High, which used to be one of my favorite episodes. Lots of allusions toward sexual harassment/assault, like trying to get Elle McPhereson's character to walk around naked in Joey's by turning up the heat in the apartment. Or saying they wanted to go to her party because there would be lots of drunk girls there. It's just kinda creepy in retrospect. There's even a line "dude, they're women not objects. just kidding, let's go!"

Oh no. I hope you were able to find a safe space to recover.

ununcle: Karma Chameleon: Friends does not hold up well. Over thanksgiving we watched The One Where Ross Got High, which used to be one of my favorite episodes. Lots of allusions toward sexual harassment/assault, like trying to get Elle McPhereson's character to walk around naked in Joey's by turning up the heat in the apartment. Or saying they wanted to go to her party because there would be lots of drunk girls there. It's just kinda creepy in retrospect. There's even a line "dude, they're women not objects. just kidding, let's go!"

Oh no. I hope you were able to find a safe space to recover.

I thought it was hilarious when I was a virgin in jr high. Pretty happy I've evolved.


You haven't.
 
2021-12-10 9:22:41 PM  

Karma Chameleon: I thought it was hilarious when I was a virgin in jr high. Pretty happy I've evolved.


You thought it was hilarious when you a virgin, now because all the sex later you think it's some how creepy? Maybe you just haven't met the right sitcom. Many things may no hold up in Friends, but 20 somethings cracking sex jokes about wanting to get layed isn't one of them.
 
2021-12-10 11:57:41 PM  

Mikey1969: Wait, people considered that Joey show a success? I tried to watch it a couple of times and it was flat.


It's actually pretty funny if you don't think of him as the character from Friends. It probably would have gone on longer if they gave his character a different name or had someone else play the main character.
 
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