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2021-12-08 8:19:42 PM  
America's got talent. Brains, however, sadly absent.
 
2021-12-08 9:29:52 PM  
Sky-luhr, or Skeh-Leer?
 
2021-12-08 9:51:05 PM  
Another dead country singer?
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2021-12-08 9:54:14 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Another dead country singer?
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2021-12-08 9:54:16 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Another dead country singer?
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C'mon man. We should all be better.
 
2021-12-08 9:58:18 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Another dead country singer?
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Your band sucked.
 
2021-12-08 10:01:56 PM  

Trocadero: Sky-luhr, or Skeh-Leer?


S'Killer

/Kid never had a chance
 
2021-12-08 10:05:58 PM  
Isn't this the second person in a week to die that was on that show?
 
2021-12-08 10:08:23 PM  
The whole thing is amazingly shiatty. I'm 40 and my 20 year old self took whatever drug was available. I tried to stay with trusted dealers, but you hit a rave (which was a thing at the time), and you just took whatever pill they gave you.

Playing by those rules, I would have great odds of being dead now.
 
2021-12-08 10:14:37 PM  
wasn't one of their former contestants killed last week in some horrible industrial accident?
 
2021-12-08 10:16:19 PM  

JudgeSmails: wasn't one of their former contestants killed last week in some horrible industrial accident?


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2021-12-08 10:17:12 PM  

JudgeSmails: wasn't one of their former contestants killed last week in some horrible industrial accident?


Apparently, in music, an overdose IS an industrial accident.
 
2021-12-08 10:23:22 PM  
Wow, 23. Young.
 
2021-12-08 10:25:10 PM  

Jeff5: JudgeSmails: wasn't one of their former contestants killed last week in some horrible industrial accident?

Apparently, in music, an overdose IS an industrial accident.


I went back and found the headline. He was unvaxxed and died of Covid.
 
2021-12-08 10:26:49 PM  
She should have learned Becky's lesson
 
2021-12-08 10:27:44 PM  

greatgodyoshi: Jeff5: JudgeSmails: wasn't one of their former contestants killed last week in some horrible industrial accident?

Apparently, in music, an overdose IS an industrial accident.

I went back and found the headline. He was unvaxxed and died of Covid.


oh my bad it was a former contestant from the X Factor.  guessing that's the same type of show.
 
2021-12-08 10:30:54 PM  
My plan was to reacquaint with opioids once I retired, but with the supply lines being as poisoned as they are, I may be forced to drink myself to death instead.
 
2021-12-08 11:00:22 PM  

baron von doodle: The whole thing is amazingly shiatty. I'm 40 and my 20 year old self took whatever drug was available. I tried to stay with trusted dealers, but you hit a rave (which was a thing at the time), and you just took whatever pill they gave you.

Playing by those rules, I would have great odds of being dead now.


Ehh - kinda.  Dealers don't purposefully hand over shiat that's going to kill you.  Unless that's what you're asking and paying for I mean.  Yeah, it happens - but it's counterproductive to kill off the herd before you've skinned them to the bone.
 
2021-12-08 11:11:14 PM  
Yah know, there are over 8 billion people on this Earth and most of them have had and will continue to have shiattier lives than a kid who was given multiple chances on a national stage. Yes, she was young and had potential, but like "hopes and prayers" those two things mean nothing if you don't use them properly.

First problem, she was raised in south carolina, a worthless shiathole state of meth heads and opiod addicts, because they live in a shiathole state. The citizens there continue to promote their own downhill spiral and they put on the gas voting for and worshiping trump. Like any culture - and south carolina has it's own magat culture of racist and amoral filth - they are their own savior or their own enemy.

south carolina killed her and every single one of their citizens is 100% responsible for her death. They provided the drugs and they provided the mindset. They are all murderers.

Perhaps it's time that christians and shiathole states start taking care of their f*cking problems - like making life so f*cking miserable that people take opioids to escape - instead of blaming their problems on people of color, Jews, immigrants, liberals and any other non-kkk groups?

I know, I know. "Hopes and prayers will take care of it." Deaf ears. "I'm awful for blaming the people and culture responsible." "That poor girl." "Think of her parents." And other sayings that do nothing to deal with an obvious situation.  How 'bout f*ck that and fix the problem?
 
2021-12-08 11:33:06 PM  

jerryskid: Yah know, there are over 8 billion people on this Earth and most of them have had and will continue to have shiattier lives than a kid who was given multiple chances on a national stage. Yes, she was young and had potential, but like "hopes and prayers" those two things mean nothing if you don't use them properly.

First problem, she was raised in south carolina, a worthless shiathole state of meth heads and opiod addicts, because they live in a shiathole state. The citizens there continue to promote their own downhill spiral and they put on the gas voting for and worshiping trump. Like any culture - and south carolina has it's own magat culture of racist and amoral filth - they are their own savior or their own enemy.

south carolina killed her and every single one of their citizens is 100% responsible for her death. They provided the drugs and they provided the mindset. They are all murderers.

Perhaps it's time that christians and shiathole states start taking care of their f*cking problems - like making life so f*cking miserable that people take opioids to escape - instead of blaming their problems on people of color, Jews, immigrants, liberals and any other non-kkk groups?

I know, I know. "Hopes and prayers will take care of it." Deaf ears. "I'm awful for blaming the people and culture responsible." "That poor girl." "Think of her parents." And other sayings that do nothing to deal with an obvious situation.  How 'bout f*ck that and fix the problem?


Wow
 
2021-12-08 11:36:31 PM  
Wow indeed. Someone needs a Valium.
 
2021-12-08 11:55:03 PM  

Exile On Beale Street: Wow indeed. Someone needs a Valium.


Apparently he can just go to South Carolina and get one.
 
2021-12-09 12:05:13 AM  

sex_and_drugs_for_ian: My plan was to reacquaint with opioids once I retired, but with the supply lines being as poisoned as they are, I may be forced to drink myself to death instead.


Go with weed. Alcohol will eat your stomach and liver, and opiates won't let you shiat proper.
 
2021-12-09 12:07:26 AM  

thanksagainandagain: sex_and_drugs_for_ian: My plan was to reacquaint with opioids once I retired, but with the supply lines being as poisoned as they are, I may be forced to drink myself to death instead.

Go with weed. Alcohol will eat your stomach and liver, and opiates won't let you shiat proper.


my liver knows what it did! *hic*
 
2021-12-09 12:21:41 AM  
Oh no.  ☹

A friend of mine recently lost his daughter to that same drug.

R.I.P. Jen....we miss you.
 
2021-12-09 12:25:15 AM  
The real tragedy here is that site on a mobile device.

//...and those shoes, and that coat, jeez!
 
2021-12-09 12:37:51 AM  
Okay you sick f*ck...who gave me a funny vote?
 
2021-12-09 12:44:46 AM  
""My heart is sad and filled with sorrow/ I know this hope for a better tomorrow/ Tell myself I will be all right/ But the tears keep coming there's no way to fight," she sang, strumming her guitar, as the studio audience cheered her on...."

"Oh yeah, this is almost writing itself. Daddy's gonna have *two* slices of Spam tonight."
 
2021-12-09 1:35:53 AM  

jerryskid: Yah know, there are over 8 billion people on this Earth and most of them have had and will continue to have shiattier lives than a kid who was given multiple chances on a national stage. Yes, she was young and had potential, but like "hopes and prayers" those two things mean nothing if you don't use them properly.

First problem, she was raised in south carolina, a worthless shiathole state of meth heads and opiod addicts, because they live in a shiathole state. The citizens there continue to promote their own downhill spiral and they put on the gas voting for and worshiping trump. Like any culture - and south carolina has it's own magat culture of racist and amoral filth - they are their own savior or their own enemy.

south carolina killed her and every single one of their citizens is 100% responsible for her death. They provided the drugs and they provided the mindset. They are all murderers.

Perhaps it's time that christians and shiathole states start taking care of their f*cking problems - like making life so f*cking miserable that people take opioids to escape - instead of blaming their problems on people of color, Jews, immigrants, liberals and any other non-kkk groups?

I know, I know. "Hopes and prayers will take care of it." Deaf ears. "I'm awful for blaming the people and culture responsible." "That poor girl." "Think of her parents." And other sayings that do nothing to deal with an obvious situation.  How 'bout f*ck that and fix the problem?


Whatever meds you're on, you're probably due for a refill.
 
2021-12-09 3:49:28 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Ehh - kinda. Dealers don't purposefully hand over shiat that's going to kill you. Unless that's what you're asking and paying for I mean. Yeah, it happens - but it's counterproductive to kill off the herd before you've skinned them to the bone.


Fentanyl changes the math in two very important ways. It's so addictive, you can convert more of your infrequent buyers into true addicts. It's also insanely cheap, and can be synthesized in a basement, away from snooping eyes. Low rent dealers are literally sprinkling it on their cocaine/pot/etc like it was a salt shaker at the dinner table. So if you can add something stupid cheap and convert a bunch of new clients into true addicts, that's kind of worth the risk for the guaranteed increase in OD deaths.
 
2021-12-09 3:55:18 AM  
Losing a parent when you're young is going to crush you, and being one of four, the one parent left is probably not coping.

Situations overwhelm people.

Drugs aren't the answer to sure, but enough people will tell you it is and supply them. For a young person there is no ready answer either. It's tragic.
 
2021-12-09 4:18:19 AM  

knbwhite: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Another dead country singer?
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C'mon man. We should all be better.


Agreed. Better off without these junkies. Ftfy.
 
2021-12-09 5:43:46 AM  

Trocadero: Sky-luhr, or Skeh-Leer?


S'dead.
 
2021-12-09 6:29:49 AM  
Darn, all she had to do was hold on 4 more years and she could have been in the club.
 
2021-12-09 8:27:29 AM  

greatgodyoshi: Isn't this the second person in a week to die that was on that show?


Yeah but most recent, she says on 10 years ago or do. Plus how many contestants have been on the show?
 
2021-12-09 9:46:33 AM  
She was probably just tired of having to spell her name.

/RIP
 
2021-12-09 11:38:23 AM  
Very sadly. How many more talented people will we lose?
 
2021-12-09 11:46:04 AM  
Very sorry. How many more talented people will we lose?
 
2021-12-09 12:12:35 PM  
Technically she died of a Fentaniyl overdose
 
2021-12-09 12:27:43 PM  

baron von doodle: The whole thing is amazingly shiatty. I'm 40 and my 20 year old self took whatever drug was available. I tried to stay with trusted dealers, but you hit a rave (which was a thing at the time), and you just took whatever pill they gave you.

Playing by those rules, I would have great odds of being dead now.


There are testing kits slowly making their way out to test if fentanyl is present so you don't accidentally die.  Republicans have been fighting them (because of course they are) but they're available in places.

Also another reason i want legal rec marijuana in ohio, but... It's ohio. It's never gonna happen.
 
2021-12-09 12:55:23 PM  

jake3988: Also another reason i want legal rec marijuana in ohio, but... It's ohio. It's never gonna happen.


Well, it might if DeWiner's brother-in-law holds the sole license to manufacture and sell it.
 
2021-12-09 12:56:28 PM  

Trocadero: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Ehh - kinda. Dealers don't purposefully hand over shiat that's going to kill you. Unless that's what you're asking and paying for I mean. Yeah, it happens - but it's counterproductive to kill off the herd before you've skinned them to the bone.

Fentanyl changes the math in two very important ways. It's so addictive, you can convert more of your infrequent buyers into true addicts. It's also insanely cheap, and can be synthesized in a basement, away from snooping eyes. Low rent dealers are literally sprinkling it on their cocaine/pot/etc like it was a salt shaker at the dinner table. So if you can add something stupid cheap and convert a bunch of new clients into true addicts, that's kind of worth the risk for the guaranteed increase in OD deaths.


Err - yes?  I meant only that they won't purposefully sell you a deceptive product in the sense that it's way more potent than they say and it's liable to kill you with standard dosage practices.  They'll happily sell you under-strength, but "over-powerful to the point you're gonna kill yourself accidentally" is almost invariably a fark up on someone's part.  Dead junkies are money lost.  So "I'd probably be dead by now" in the post I was replying to was a, "maybe, but quite possibly not" situation
 
2021-12-09 2:26:05 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Trocadero: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Ehh - kinda. Dealers don't purposefully hand over shiat that's going to kill you. Unless that's what you're asking and paying for I mean. Yeah, it happens - but it's counterproductive to kill off the herd before you've skinned them to the bone.

Fentanyl changes the math in two very important ways. It's so addictive, you can convert more of your infrequent buyers into true addicts. It's also insanely cheap, and can be synthesized in a basement, away from snooping eyes. Low rent dealers are literally sprinkling it on their cocaine/pot/etc like it was a salt shaker at the dinner table. So if you can add something stupid cheap and convert a bunch of new clients into true addicts, that's kind of worth the risk for the guaranteed increase in OD deaths.

Err - yes?  I meant only that they won't purposefully sell you a deceptive product in the sense that it's way more potent than they say and it's liable to kill you with standard dosage practices.  They'll happily sell you under-strength, but "over-powerful to the point you're gonna kill yourself accidentally" is almost invariably a fark up on someone's part.  Dead junkies are money lost.  So "I'd probably be dead by now" in the post I was replying to was a, "maybe, but quite possibly not" situation


Well, this all according to an article I vaguely remember reading in October. The math version looks like this:

You sell drug (D). There is a ratio of people who try it once, and that's about it (X). There is a ratio of true addicts, where you make the most of your money (Y). There is a ratio of people who OD and die (Z). Assume X + Y + Z = 1.

Now you add fentanyl to your drug (D' prime). Your ratios are X' + Y' + Z' = 1. What you hope to accomplish is that Y' >> Y, ideally by making X' << X. However, you know that Z' > Z. If the money you make from Y' >> Y is really good (remember, adding the fentanyl is really cheap), then it easily makes up for the losses from Z' (extra OD deaths).

Granted, this is idealized and generalized. More OD deaths means the cops might step it up and go after you more. Maybe you're a middle man and your supplier added it in w/o telling you. Maybe you practice progressive pricing, and you killed the rich addict who paid a lot more than the regular junkies. But the principal fact is that fentanyl is so damn addictive, that it's just too tempting for a seller who counts on addicted customers.
 
2021-12-09 4:47:16 PM  

Trocadero: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Trocadero: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Ehh - kinda. Dealers don't purposefully hand over shiat that's going to kill you. Unless that's what you're asking and paying for I mean. Yeah, it happens - but it's counterproductive to kill off the herd before you've skinned them to the bone.

Fentanyl changes the math in two very important ways. It's so addictive, you can convert more of your infrequent buyers into true addicts. It's also insanely cheap, and can be synthesized in a basement, away from snooping eyes. Low rent dealers are literally sprinkling it on their cocaine/pot/etc like it was a salt shaker at the dinner table. So if you can add something stupid cheap and convert a bunch of new clients into true addicts, that's kind of worth the risk for the guaranteed increase in OD deaths.

Err - yes?  I meant only that they won't purposefully sell you a deceptive product in the sense that it's way more potent than they say and it's liable to kill you with standard dosage practices.  They'll happily sell you under-strength, but "over-powerful to the point you're gonna kill yourself accidentally" is almost invariably a fark up on someone's part.  Dead junkies are money lost.  So "I'd probably be dead by now" in the post I was replying to was a, "maybe, but quite possibly not" situation

Well, this all according to an article I vaguely remember reading in October. The math version looks like this:

You sell drug (D). There is a ratio of people who try it once, and that's about it (X). There is a ratio of true addicts, where you make the most of your money (Y). There is a ratio of people who OD and die (Z). Assume X + Y + Z = 1.

Now you add fentanyl to your drug (D' prime). Your ratios are X' + Y' + Z' = 1. What you hope to accomplish is that Y' >> Y, ideally by making X' << X. However, you know that Z' > Z. If the money you make from Y' >> Y is really good (remember, adding the fentanyl is really cheap), then it easily makes up for ...


Some fair points
 
2021-12-09 6:31:06 PM  

jerryskid: Yah know, there are over 8 billion people on this Earth and most of them have had and will continue to have shiattier lives than a kid who was given multiple chances on a national stage. Yes, she was young and had potential, but like "hopes and prayers" those two things mean nothing if you don't use them properly.

First problem, she was raised in south carolina, a worthless shiathole state of meth heads and opiod addicts, because they live in a shiathole state. The citizens there continue to promote their own downhill spiral and they put on the gas voting for and worshiping trump. Like any culture - and south carolina has it's own magat culture of racist and amoral filth - they are their own savior or their own enemy.

south carolina killed her and every single one of their citizens is 100% responsible for her death. They provided the drugs and they provided the mindset. They are all murderers.

Perhaps it's time that christians and shiathole states start taking care of their f*cking problems - like making life so f*cking miserable that people take opioids to escape - instead of blaming their problems on people of color, Jews, immigrants, liberals and any other non-kkk groups?

I know, I know. "Hopes and prayers will take care of it." Deaf ears. "I'm awful for blaming the people and culture responsible." "That poor girl." "Think of her parents." And other sayings that do nothing to deal with an obvious situation.  How 'bout f*ck that and fix the problem?


So now tell us your thoughts on rap and inner-city violence
 
2021-12-09 6:41:02 PM  

jerryskid: Yah know, there are over 8 billion people on this Earth and most of them have had and will continue to have shiattier lives than a kid who was given multiple chances on a national stage. Yes, she was young and had potential, but like "hopes and prayers" those two things mean nothing if you don't use them properly.

First problem, she was raised in south carolina, a worthless shiathole state of meth heads and opiod addicts, because they live in a shiathole state. The citizens there continue to promote their own downhill spiral and they put on the gas voting for and worshiping trump. Like any culture - and south carolina has it's own magat culture of racist and amoral filth - they are their own savior or their own enemy.

south carolina killed her and every single one of their citizens is 100% responsible for her death. They provided the drugs and they provided the mindset. They are all murderers.

Perhaps it's time that christians and shiathole states start taking care of their f*cking problems - like making life so f*cking miserable that people take opioids to escape - instead of blaming their problems on people of color, Jews, immigrants, liberals and any other non-kkk groups?

I know, I know. "Hopes and prayers will take care of it." Deaf ears. "I'm awful for blaming the people and culture responsible." "That poor girl." "Think of her parents." And other sayings that do nothing to deal with an obvious situation.  How 'bout f*ck that and fix the problem?


Seems that money I donated to the telethon didn't help you
 
2021-12-09 9:44:43 PM  
Okay, I was out of line, sorry.

But to me, Country Music is just the soundtrack to a Klan rally. Can't stand it, especially on National TV, celebrating simple, down-home, wholesome, white supremacy. Sickening.
 
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