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(Some Guy)   Martin Frk: possible NHL/Fark media star with his last name and 109 mph slap shot. Stuck as a top scorer in the minors at 28 because at that age, you're considered an AHL lifer. Or the LA Kings hate having offense (LA subby adds tag for team colors)   (dailyfaceoff.com) divider line
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2021-12-08 8:12:18 PM  
Yeah, I used to go to some games when I was young.  The North Stars (fark teh farking Stars right up their star hole!) had teams that would fight a bit, and always dump the puck into the end, go fetch it and feed it to the point where they would make a huge shot at goal.  It rarely worked.

Soccer is more interesting.  Way more interesting.  Fark, golf and baseball are more interesting.

/rip North Stars
 
2021-12-08 10:36:08 PM  
I'm in his fan club, Ttl Frk.
 
2021-12-09 12:49:27 AM  
I am going to assume:

He relies on brute force to overpower opponents, which works quite well against the lower tier competition but doesn't cut it in the NHL where he needs to be a more skill based and well rounded player. That being something you see all the time in other sport (see all the college QBs who physically overpowered their opponents but failed miserably in the NFL).
 
2021-12-09 1:00:52 AM  
If he was any good, he'd be in the NHL.

The Red Wings wasted a 2nd round pick on him along with a lot of time and money and he still couldnt crack their regular roster (of some of the worst hockey teams ever fielded by a NHL club). The Wings even brought him back after letting him go on waivers to Carolina (who also waived him after 1 season) and he still wasnt any good for a Wings team that was desperate for ANYBODY that could contribute some offense. He subsequently went to the Kings who also gave up on him fairly quickly.

He's had multiple chances with multiple teams and never really succeeded. There's a reason why he's pegged as a "great minor leaguer" in the same way there are a lot of great college football players that never amounted to anything in the NFL.
 
2021-12-09 8:08:48 AM  
If the rest of his line's production dropped 1.25 goals for every 1 goal he made, he would still be detrimental to the team.  Also, what type of defense can he muster?  My guess is that it is subpar, if he is being brought in for power-plays (where a large portion of his goals were scored).  Maybe his puck-handling is lousy, so he can't work into a good position, but has to be fed the puck right where he will fire it off.

There's no designated hitter in hockey.  You have to play the whole game.
 
2021-12-09 8:49:31 AM  
There are still occasionally players who get a pro shot after years in the minors.  Manny Legace is an example of this.  He was ~27 when he finally got his first call-up with Detroit.  I remember him having some decent years with the Springfield Falcons (formerly the Indians, now the Thunderbirds).

Now if you want to talk about a real lifer that couldn't break through (except for 1 game in this case):  Don Cherry, another Springfield alum.
 
2021-12-09 9:20:04 AM  

TTFK: There are still occasionally players who get a pro shot after years in the minors.  Manny Legace is an example of this.  He was ~27 when he finally got his first call-up with Detroit.  I remember him having some decent years with the Springfield Falcons (formerly the Indians, now the Thunderbirds).

Now if you want to talk about a real lifer that couldn't break through (except for 1 game in this case):  Don Cherry, another Springfield alum.


Tim Thomas bounced around the ECHL, IHL, AHL, and Finnish Elite League for years, and didn't become a starter for the Bruins until he was 31.
 
2021-12-09 12:25:23 PM  
There are also guys winning long drive competitions that can't sniff the PGA tour.
 
2021-12-09 3:11:46 PM  

puckrock2000: TTFK: There are still occasionally players who get a pro shot after years in the minors.  Manny Legace is an example of this.  He was ~27 when he finally got his first call-up with Detroit.  I remember him having some decent years with the Springfield Falcons (formerly the Indians, now the Thunderbirds).

Now if you want to talk about a real lifer that couldn't break through (except for 1 game in this case):  Don Cherry, another Springfield alum.

Tim Thomas bounced around the ECHL, IHL, AHL, and Finnish Elite League for years, and didn't become a starter for the Bruins until he was 31.


Goalies are voodoo though, and belong in a different category. There are exceptions, but it's almost completely random how a goalie will turn out. Draft position, systems play, development mean almost nothing.
 
2021-12-10 1:30:19 AM  
While I am skeptical of Frk, he has done more than some call-ups of the Kings (Tynan).

LA needs to give Arthur Kaliyev quality ice time with guys that aren't bump-and-grinders, and figure out how to bring up some of the talent in Ontario. Guys like Alex Turcotte (drafted ahead of Ducks' current rookie of the year candidate Trevor Zegras), Vladmir Tkachev (a KHL star who came over but had trouble with the NHL's rink and physical game; seems like he's overcome that in the AHL) and Gabe Vilardi need to find a way into LA's punchless game.

The problem is the waiver game -- Kings don't want to have egg on their face with yet another prospect who finds success elsewhere --, loyalty to vets like Dustin Brown who just aren't what they were, and the bean counters in LA's office who want to slide rookie contracts from activating for another year.

/Kaliyev with a pivotal late-game goal tonight, and a beauty one too
 
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