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2021-12-08 7:38:10 PM  
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/I like their AC franchise, but if NFTs show up in there its time to dismiss them for another couple years while they figure out how to once again stop furiously stomping on their own dick
 
2021-12-08 8:54:04 PM  
I wanted to pick up the Southpark game this last steam sale, but you can't run it without the damn ubisoft client so I passed out of principle.
 
2021-12-08 9:01:01 PM  
I feel like this thread should refer back to the Penny Arcade thread.
 
2021-12-08 9:01:48 PM  
Tom Clancy's Beanie Baby Bravo.
 
2021-12-08 9:20:29 PM  
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2021-12-08 9:22:54 PM  
No Farking Thanks.
 
2021-12-08 9:26:37 PM  
How about just make the game good, I can't remember the last time a ghost recon game didn't suck @$$
 
2021-12-08 9:37:16 PM  
I'm sure I'll be unhappy about this as soon as I find out what an NFT actually is
 
2021-12-08 9:41:24 PM  
Do I get a percentage of the game/album/movie/whatever's profits? Then I don't own a piece of anything if I "own" an associated NFT.
 
2021-12-08 10:47:19 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: Do I get a percentage of the game/album/movie/whatever's profits? Then I don't own a piece of anything if I "own" an associated NFT.


im almost tempted to have a lawyer go over their EULA and tell me if i could buy one of these NFT items and start marketing derivatives of it.  b/c that would be funny as hell. start selling physical copies of an action figure wearing tom clancy ghost recon camo jacket #42 or tom clancy ghost recon combat helmet #74.  after all you own it right?

you wouldn't win that lawsuit.  but you'd cause some brick shiatting for a week or two at ubisoft HQ.
 
2021-12-08 10:51:31 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: Do I get a percentage of the game/album/movie/whatever's profits? Then I don't own a piece of anything if I "own" an associated NFT.


Well of course - you get your share in exposure!
 
2021-12-08 11:33:01 PM  
Could've released a Beyond Good and Evil sequel by now.
 
2021-12-08 11:41:38 PM  
They stole my apes, Odo!
 
2021-12-08 11:42:19 PM  

moothemagiccow: I'm sure I'll be unhappy about this as soon as I find out what an NFT actually is


You don't know what an NFT is!? Ladies and Gentlemen, make some room, let this person forward

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"Step right up fella! Or Ma'am? Neither, niether, never meaning to intend.

Please come front and center and learn about the AMAZING, the ASTOUNDING, the MIRACULOUS, NFT.
These NFTs are using original INDIAN BLOCKCHAINED MAGICS, and ancient FAR EAST TONICS, proven effective by University MD testing right here in the old US of A!!

Sound confused? Well don't be!

You don't need to be a bookworm or a banker to understand the AMAZING, TOTALLY REAL benefits to be gained by the NFT.

Now fella, what would you say if I told you you could have some of this amazing NFT for just $100?
Why, you'd call me crazy. I'd be killed under the weight of the hundred dollar bills thrown in my direction! MAD they would call me. HAH.

But I'm not selling these NFTs for $100,
I'm not even selling them for $80,
that's right: because friend I'm a real american like you, I've worked for a living, I know how hard it is to feed a family, and I know how valuable your money is,

so I'm going to sell this NFT to you for $79.95.
No other town I'm passing through this summer will be getting this price folks."
 
2021-12-09 12:30:44 AM  
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2021-12-09 1:06:08 AM  

moothemagiccow: I'm sure I'll be unhappy about this as soon as I find out what an NFT actually is


What Is It NFT? (3:13am)
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2021-12-09 1:35:52 AM  

moothemagiccow: I'm sure I'll be unhappy about this as soon as I find out what an NFT actually is


It's a private registry associating owners with uniquely identified assets. Consider an artist selling 100 numbered copies of a lithograph. You buy #38/100 at an auction, and maybe you decide to sell it a few years later. In the real world you buy and sell the asset directly. With NFTs there's one central list of who owns each copy, and resale transactions go through that contract so that it always reflects the current state. You could photocopy the artwork itself but you can't forge the ownership records and sell a counterfeit. As a side benefit, it's possible to e.g. send a percentage of each resale price back to the original artist.

It's possible for a grifter to create a registry of any random assets. There are companies who will "sell" you a star in the sky or a crater on the moon, writing your name next to its coordinates in a database they maintain. Makes a neat novelty gift, but nobody outside of that private company recognizes their assignments. Someone across town might have sold your crater to somebody else, and the IAU doesn't care about either of them.

On the other hand, there are infrastructure projects like domain name registration where there is a consensus on who controls the "official" registry. If you type "food.com" into any web browser, you're probably going to end up at the same place. Ownership of the "food.com" token has real monetary value, even though it's possible for someone to set up a local hosts file pointing that name somewhere else.

The value of an NFT depends on the credibility and influence of the organization which issues it. Many are trash. Some are useful. Others have value because somebody has managed to build a brand identity around their particular flavor of trash, like the way that a T-shirt or a pair of sneakers can gain value if someone slaps the right logo onto it.
 
2021-12-09 1:49:10 AM  
They work hard to make me never want to play their games.  I am beginning to admire their commitment to sucking.
 
2021-12-09 7:34:38 AM  
 
2021-12-09 7:39:55 AM  

Ivo Shandor: moothemagiccow: I'm sure I'll be unhappy about this as soon as I find out what an NFT actually is

It's a private registry associating owners with uniquely identified assets. Consider an artist selling 100 numbered copies of a lithograph. You buy #38/100 at an auction, and maybe you decide to sell it a few years later. In the real world you buy and sell the asset directly. With NFTs there's one central list of who owns each copy, and resale transactions go through that contract so that it always reflects the current state. You could photocopy the artwork itself but you can't forge the ownership records and sell a counterfeit. As a side benefit, it's possible to e.g. send a percentage of each resale price back to the original artist.

It's possible for a grifter to create a registry of any random assets. There are companies who will "sell" you a star in the sky or a crater on the moon, writing your name next to its coordinates in a database they maintain. Makes a neat novelty gift, but nobody outside of that private company recognizes their assignments. Someone across town might have sold your crater to somebody else, and the IAU doesn't care about either of them.

On the other hand, there are infrastructure projects like domain name registration where there is a consensus on who controls the "official" registry. If you type "food.com" into any web browser, you're probably going to end up at the same place. Ownership of the "food.com" token has real monetary value, even though it's possible for someone to set up a local hosts file pointing that name somewhere else.

The value of an NFT depends on the credibility and influence of the organization which issues it. Many are trash. Some are useful. Others have value because somebody has managed to build a brand identity around their particular flavor of trash, like the way that a T-shirt or a pair of sneakers can gain value if someone slaps the right logo onto it.


Your very first sentence is false. NFTs do not confer ownership of anything other than the ownership of the NFT itself. I can sell you an NFT of a jpg, and then go right ahead and sell that jpg to someone else. That's why the whole thing is a scam. And NFTs aren't even unique to a particular item. There's a company that's sold multiple NFTs for "ownership" of a block of tungsten; each "owner" is given a specific date they are allowed to vist the block and look at it.
 
2021-12-09 7:42:34 AM  

The Fireman: They work hard to make me never want to play their games.  I am beginning to admire their commitment to sucking.


The only "modern" Ubisoft game I liked was Rocksmith. And that's no longer being worked on or supported. Some of their old games were great, such as Beyond (Between) Good and Evil.
 
2021-12-09 7:44:06 AM  

Heavy Metal Nixon: How about just make the game good, I can't remember the last time a ghost recon game didn't suck @$$


Sorry, there's no money in that.
 
2021-12-09 7:51:10 AM  

moothemagiccow: I'm sure I'll be unhappy about this as soon as I find out what an NFT actually is


Imagine I have an item you like. Now, I'm going to sell you a receipt that doesn't confer ownership of the item, but does let you associate the receipt with that item. Also, that receipt has a unique number on it that can't be duplicated, so you can brag that you're the only one with that receipt. But remember, it doesn't confer actual ownership; I can sell other uniquely numbered receipts for it, sell the item itself, make copies of the item, of even destroy it, and you'll have no say in it.
 
2021-12-09 7:53:18 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: moothemagiccow: I'm sure I'll be unhappy about this as soon as I find out what an NFT actually is

Imagine I have an item you like. Now, I'm going to sell you a receipt that doesn't confer ownership of the item, but does let you associate the receipt with that item. Also, that receipt has a unique number on it that can't be duplicated, so you can brag that you're the only one with that receipt. But remember, it doesn't confer actual ownership; I can sell other uniquely numbered receipts for it, sell the item itself, make copies of the item, of even destroy it, and you'll have no say in it.


And I just like to add, if that sounds like a scam to you, you'd be right.
 
2021-12-09 8:35:34 AM  
Monorail, monorail, monorail!!
 
2021-12-09 9:26:32 AM  
Oh now they shiat the bed?
 
2021-12-09 9:43:32 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Ivo Shandor: moothemagiccow: I'm sure I'll be unhappy about this as soon as I find out what an NFT actually is

It's a private registry associating owners with uniquely identified assets. Consider an artist selling 100 numbered copies of a lithograph. You buy #38/100 at an auction, and maybe you decide to sell it a few years later. In the real world you buy and sell the asset directly. With NFTs there's one central list of who owns each copy, and resale transactions go through that contract so that it always reflects the current state. You could photocopy the artwork itself but you can't forge the ownership records and sell a counterfeit. As a side benefit, it's possible to e.g. send a percentage of each resale price back to the original artist.

It's possible for a grifter to create a registry of any random assets. There are companies who will "sell" you a star in the sky or a crater on the moon, writing your name next to its coordinates in a database they maintain. Makes a neat novelty gift, but nobody outside of that private company recognizes their assignments. Someone across town might have sold your crater to somebody else, and the IAU doesn't care about either of them.

On the other hand, there are infrastructure projects like domain name registration where there is a consensus on who controls the "official" registry. If you type "food.com" into any web browser, you're probably going to end up at the same place. Ownership of the "food.com" token has real monetary value, even though it's possible for someone to set up a local hosts file pointing that name somewhere else.

The value of an NFT depends on the credibility and influence of the organization which issues it. Many are trash. Some are useful. Others have value because somebody has managed to build a brand identity around their particular flavor of trash, like the way that a T-shirt or a pair of sneakers can gain value if someone slaps the right logo onto it.

Your very first sentence is false. NFTs do ...


You just described timeshares but with hunks of metal instead of vacation homes.

Only as valuable as the org maintaining it. So in other words, worthless.

A hunk of tungsten maintained by Billy Bob's uncle in the basement is still worth the same to potential buyers as the hunk of tungsten maintained in the British Museum, or wherever showpiece tungsten is held. It's a thing, I'm sure.
 
2021-12-09 10:38:05 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: The Fireman: They work hard to make me never want to play their games.  I am beginning to admire their commitment to sucking.

The only "modern" Ubisoft game I liked was Rocksmith. And that's no longer being worked on or supported. Some of their old games were great, such as Beyond (Between) Good and Evil.


Beyond Good and Evil was a delight, but it is a game from an Ubisoft that no longer exists.

Uplay was basically the end of them being cool or fun to be around.  Kind of like when an old friend shows up one day and tries to get you into pyramid selling.
 
2021-12-09 10:44:04 AM  
NFTs > Young Living > Rodan + Fields

It is a Gateway scam!
 
2021-12-09 1:07:05 PM  

Ivo Shandor: The value of an NFT depends on the credibility and influence of the organization which issues it. Many are trash. Some are useful. Others have value because somebody has managed to build a brand identity around their particular flavor of trash, like the way that a T-shirt or a pair of sneakers can gain value if someone slaps the right logo onto it.


But that's the thing.  If the value of the NFT hinges entirely on a central organization, the blockchain itself is superfluous.  Just have that organization maintain its own database.  (As so many game companies already do for their artificially scarce crap.)
 
2021-12-09 8:11:03 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Ivo Shandor: The value of an NFT depends on the credibility and influence of the organization which issues it. Many are trash. Some are useful. Others have value because somebody has managed to build a brand identity around their particular flavor of trash, like the way that a T-shirt or a pair of sneakers can gain value if someone slaps the right logo onto it.

But that's the thing.  If the value of the NFT hinges entirely on a central organization, the blockchain itself is superfluous.  Just have that organization maintain its own database.  (As so many game companies already do for their artificially scarce crap.)


The only upside to this, and I can't see why Ubisoft would do it, is so third parties could run servers for their games and people could still have access to their skins and stuff validated though whatever blockchain they're using instead of Ubisoft's servers.
 
2021-12-09 9:02:44 PM  
AAA gaming is basically a hype train, where hype tends to be inverse of quality.
 
2021-12-09 9:09:41 PM  

moothemagiccow: I'm sure I'll be unhappy about this as soon as I find out what an NFT actually is


It's the result of when techbro douchebags log into FurAffinity and see a bazillion of 12 year old newbies making one fursona, then palette shifting the colors to make 20 or 30 of them, to sell for $15 each as "adoptable fursonas", ignore all the fighting over people who already came up with similar looking fursonas and how they're special for being a hyper purple and electric chartreuse sparkledog and how this other kid with a forest green and electric purple sparkledog is obviously a copycat, then say "Hey, what if we did this but with blockchain?"

Seriously, the furry community thought we were starting to hear the last of "adoptables" and other low-effort attempts to capitalize, only for some basement dweeb to mainstream it.
 
2021-12-09 9:40:03 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Ubisoft's NFTs make no sense


Fixed it.
 
2021-12-09 9:41:03 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Heavy Metal Nixon: How about just make the game good, I can't remember the last time a ghost recon game didn't suck @$$

Sorry, there's no money in that.


Meanwhile, SCS Software's been making job simulators for 20 years and doing fine...
 
2021-12-09 9:43:22 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: NFTs > Young Living > Rodan + Fields

It is a Gateway scam!


It's Mary Kay, but for men.  And instead of a pink caddy, they give you a picture of one.
 
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