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(Some Dumb Guy)   Yesterday's AWS outage left people without their holiday lights, smart bulbs, doorbells, even Roombas. This IoT business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it   (bloombergquint.com) divider line
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396 clicks; posted to Business » on 08 Dec 2021 at 2:40 PM (7 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-12-08 2:45:39 PM  
Oh, that's why instead of telling my Alexa to turn off the hall light, I had to get my phone and do it myself like a goddamn Neanderthal.
 
2021-12-08 2:54:52 PM  
Yesterday I had to stay near the microwave so I could hear it beep rather than get a text. It was intolerable. This is worse than living in medieval times.
 
2021-12-08 2:57:37 PM  
do you REALLY need a "smart" Refrigerator? Or door lock? or light bulb? or vacuum?

seriously...unless you have a special need...the answer is a resounding "no"

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2021-12-08 2:58:49 PM  
IoT is the definition of a solution looking for a problem. Why anyone would want that shiat in their house is beyond me.

/works in IT
//prefers house nice and dumb
 
2021-12-08 3:00:39 PM  
This is why there aren't enough chips for cars.
 
2021-12-08 3:17:01 PM  
me last year: 'Dafuq do I need a wifi-control plug on my outdoor lights?'

me this year: 'Dammit, the timer is out & I have to turn my outdoor lights on manually. Pass me my mobile that's on the coffee table right in front of me.'
 
2021-12-08 3:29:35 PM  
It was a crisis for Amazon, for sure. How are they gonna know if people need toilet paper or lightbulbs or whatever if they can't keep track of how often their customers take a shiat or turn on a light?
 
2021-12-08 3:31:24 PM  

Karma Chameleon: IoT is the definition of a solution looking for a problem.


You can say that about almost everything where convenience is the primary driver.

Do you *need* your smart phone? Or a cell phone at all, or your computer, or electricity?
 
2021-12-08 3:32:08 PM  
What an Amazon web service might look like:

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If you've seen the spiders there, you'd take it down, too.
 
2021-12-08 3:34:41 PM  
I'm starting to think that these cloud outages for Google and AWS are being caused by a hacker group hired by Microsoft so the company can poach business away.
 
2021-12-08 3:47:43 PM  
Mark my words: It won't be long until appliance makers adopt the SaaS model and begin charging subscription fees to keep your furnace hot, your refrigerator cold, your dishwasher wet... and this after actually buying the appliance. Thanks to IoT, anything you own can be bricked remotely for nonpayment.

We already have it with exercise bikes and certain cars. The technology is there. All that's left is widespread deployment.
 
2021-12-08 3:52:33 PM  
Here's a great novella about IoT.

Unauthorized Bread
 
2021-12-08 3:56:02 PM  

Karma Chameleon: IoT is the definition of a solution looking for a problem. Why anyone would want that shiat in their house is beyond me.

/works in IT
//prefers house nice and dumb


I have a couple of lamps with "smart" lights.  If they don't work, then I go turn them on myself.  I like playing with toys.

Would never hook anything up to a critical system that could not be operated manually.

/also works in IT
 
2021-12-08 4:00:56 PM  

cyberspacedout: What an Amazon web service might look like:

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I think that's a tent caterpillar.
 
2021-12-08 5:06:53 PM  

Chagrin: cyberspacedout: What an Amazon web service might look like:

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I think that's a tent caterpillar.


Could be. Stock photography sites aren't exactly fact checking experts.
 
2021-12-08 5:52:45 PM  
I was wondering what happened.  I'm still having trouble with one of my lights.  It was annoying, but like someone else mentioned, I don't attach anything critical to it.
 
2021-12-08 6:08:34 PM  
My smart bulbs weren't working with Alexa so I downloaded the app for the bulbs, which also didn't work because it used Amazon's services. So I sat in the dark.
 
2021-12-08 7:41:59 PM  
I bought a smart light last month.  The thing probed the network and sent all the data it learned to servers in China and France.  The data it sent included the wifi password and ipV6 details of the network.  It also sent some very odd dns requests which could be used to open a link into my network.  That is why these Internoet of Trash things need to be treated with caution.

There is alternate firmware for many of the low cost LED lights.  It might be a very good idea to use it rather than the stuff that came on the device.
 
2021-12-08 8:20:08 PM  

Karma Chameleon: IoT is the definition of a solution looking for a problem. Why anyone would want that shiat in their house is beyond me.

/works in IT
//prefers house nice and dumb


38 years in IT. No "smart" devices in the house.  The thermostat* that was in the house when we bought it was "smart", but unable to actually run the heatpump.  Replaced it with a dumb thermostat that runs the weekly program just fine and it cost 1/3rd as much.

*It should be noted that this was the second time a "smart" thermostat failed. I know this because the prior owner left box of plans and a "BAD" thermostat identical to the one I replaced.
 
2021-12-08 9:23:46 PM  
It also took down the Chrysler WiTech server (at least the aftermarket side) so the Chrysler factory scantools didn't work.  We had to shuffle our work schedule because we had no access to programming/diagnostics for the Chryslers in our schedule.

Yes, that's right....Chrysler has a vehicle scantool that requires a live internet connection to function.
 
2021-12-08 10:54:00 PM  
I have spent much of my 20 year career developing or managing embedded software, I work for a Fortune 500 company designing IoT products.  I have roughly 15 Apple HomeKit products in my house, primarily because I wanted the functionality they provide and I trusted Apple more so than the other major eco-systems.  Each company is different, and their commitment to security and reliability is different.  Over and over I see consumers point to one bad product and assume every other equivalent is just as bad, and frankly that's not true,
 
2021-12-08 11:10:23 PM  
I heard about this outage on the news today, it had zero effect on me yesterday.
 
2021-12-09 12:13:47 AM  

cide1: I have spent much of my 20 year career developing or managing embedded software, I work for a Fortune 500 company designing IoT products.  I have roughly 15 Apple HomeKit products in my house, primarily because I wanted the functionality they provide and I trusted Apple more so than the other major eco-systems.  Each company is different, and their commitment to security and reliability is different.  Over and over I see consumers point to one bad product and assume every other equivalent is just as bad, and frankly that's not true,


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2021-12-09 12:51:48 AM  

Fabric_Man: Mark my words: It won't be long until appliance makers adopt the SaaS model and begin charging subscription fees to keep your furnace hot, your refrigerator cold, your dishwasher wet... and this after actually buying the appliance. Thanks to IoT, anything you own can be bricked remotely for nonpayment.

We already have it with exercise bikes and certain cars. The technology is there. All that's left is widespread deployment.


Remember the $400 health juicer machine that stopped working when the company shut down because it was IoT?
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/01/juicero-silicon-valley-shutting-down


In more current news
"Multiple Ring users even said they weren't able to get into their homes without access to the phone app, which was down."

HAHAHHAAAAAA! You left control of access to your own home with a third party provider that has absolutely no SLA or obligation to assist you other than refunding your monthly subscription fee while you sit on the porch of the house you can't enter.
 
2021-12-09 1:30:30 AM  
My Amazon package was just delayed by 1-2 days. This is an outrage
 
2021-12-09 2:54:50 AM  

Karma Chameleon: IoT is the definition of a solution looking for a problem. Why anyone would want that shiat in their house is beyond me.

/works in IT
//prefers house nice and dumb


Objection.

"Solution in search of a problem" implies a demonstrated ability to do something useful, rather than create problems, which is the opposite of useful.
 
2021-12-09 8:42:48 AM  

cocozilla: do you REALLY need a "smart" Refrigerator? Or door lock? or light bulb? or vacuum?

seriously...unless you have a special need...the answer is a resounding "no"

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My folks have a Samsung washer and dryer that are SmartThings enabled. Neither is them can hear, but those machines can talk to other smart devices like lights, so both of them get alerted when the buzzer goes off. This actually ended a 50+ year argument they had where each said the other was ignoring the laundry. Yes, that's silly, but it really, truly did fix a huge problem for them.
 
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