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(NBC News)   Elon Musk used trickle down theory to sell the benefits of having a space port in their town. The trickling consists of explosions, broken windows, forced home buyouts, threats of eminent domain seizures, and loss of wildlife   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2021-12-08 8:55:55 AM  
So, basically, living in Texas.

FREEDOM!!
 
2021-12-08 9:02:46 AM  
Rubes who wanted to be conned got conned by a conman.

News at 11.
 
2021-12-08 9:17:41 AM  
There's a reason they moved to Texas, and it wasn't for a more enlightened society.
 
2021-12-08 9:27:21 AM  
I've sold spaceports to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map!

Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-pad spaceport!
 
2021-12-08 9:29:22 AM  
There's a simple rule.

If a corporation wants it, oppose it. If a corporation fronted by a famous CEO wants it, oppose it with everything you have.
 
2021-12-08 9:30:02 AM  

Martian_Astronomer: I've sold spaceports to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map!

Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-pad spaceport!


Spaceport?
 
2021-12-08 9:31:02 AM  
Loss of wildlife my ass. The regions around Kennedy Space Center are a wildlife refuge thanks to the exclusion areas set up around the launch pads.

Elon can eat a bag of dicks but there's no reason to make shiat up, subby.
 
2021-12-08 9:32:36 AM  

Quantumbunny: Martian_Astronomer: I've sold spaceports to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map!

Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-pad spaceport!

Spaceport?


SPACEPORT!
 
2021-12-08 9:37:28 AM  

atlantic_lotion: Loss of wildlife my ass. The regions around Kennedy Space Center are a wildlife refuge thanks to the exclusion areas set up around the launch pads.

Elon can eat a bag of dicks but there's no reason to make shiat up, subby.


The FAA is extremely concerned about the environmental impact that SpaceX activities will have on the Boeing Corporation.  No joke.  Anything they can do to slow down SpaceX will be done.  Including this environmental impact study jazz.
 
2021-12-08 9:39:42 AM  

atlantic_lotion: Loss of wildlife my ass. The regions around Kennedy Space Center are a wildlife refuge thanks to the exclusion areas set up around the launch pads.

Elon can eat a bag of dicks but there's no reason to make shiat up, subby.


the real headline from the article:
Disgruntled neighbors and dwindling shorebirds jeopardize SpaceX expansion
 
2021-12-08 9:42:38 AM  
I was upset until I saw it was in Texas.

Not being sarcastic.  These are the kinds of rules Texans think we all should live by.  And it bit them in the ass, as literally everyone not a Texan would have predicted.
 
2021-12-08 9:47:07 AM  

Great_Milenko: Not being sarcastic.  These are the kinds of rules Texans think we all should live by.  And it bit them in the ass, as literally everyone not a Texan would have predicted.


They only like it when it lets them build highways thru mostly blah communities.
 
2021-12-08 9:48:06 AM  

aimtastic: Quantumbunny: Martian_Astronomer: I've sold spaceports to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map!

Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-pad spaceport!

Spaceport?

SPACEPORT!


Maybe it's more of a Titusville idea!
 
2021-12-08 9:48:14 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: There's a simple rule.

If a corporation wants it, oppose it. If a corporation fronted by a famous CEO wants it, oppose it with everything you have.


I mean, he's also pretty vocal about wanting to stop global climate change. So are you opposing stopping climate change?
 
2021-12-08 9:55:26 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: There's a simple rule.

If a corporation wants it, oppose it. If a corporation fronted by a famous CEO wants it, oppose it with everything you have.


Clearly NASA as the sole innovator in space exploration, at exponentially higher costs and a fraction of the rate of development as what is being done by private companies now, is the preferred option.
 
2021-12-08 9:56:55 AM  
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2021-12-08 10:02:05 AM  
They did the deal all wrong.

Letting the nuisance in first was bound to create a situation in which their presence 'lowered' property values which was in turn used (as well as new utility rules) which made the surrounding property cheaper to buy piecemeal. The holdouts could be picked-off in the end with the help of Eminent Domain and friendly local politicians. They should have done what was done in Kansas City, Kansas when a huge redevelopment was planned. They bought everybody out at a value far higher than the current market as a single sale. Sure there were some holdouts then that thought their $120k 2BR ranch was worth a million, but the deal got done and nobody got ripped off.

Oh yeah, Fark Musk. Just wanted to throw that one in there.
 
2021-12-08 10:04:46 AM  

darth sunshine: atlantic_lotion: Loss of wildlife my ass. The regions around Kennedy Space Center are a wildlife refuge thanks to the exclusion areas set up around the launch pads.

Elon can eat a bag of dicks but there's no reason to make shiat up, subby.

the real headline from the article:
Disgruntled neighbors and dwindling shorebirds jeopardize SpaceX expansion


Birds are not real, they can be programmed to do what government wants them to do
 
2021-12-08 10:11:19 AM  

Telos: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: There's a simple rule.

If a corporation wants it, oppose it. If a corporation fronted by a famous CEO wants it, oppose it with everything you have.

I mean, he's also pretty vocal about wanting to stop global climate change. So are you opposing stopping climate change?


He's "pretty vocal" about a lot of things.  Yet when he's given an opportunity to put his money where his mouth is, he always seems to double down on the mouth part, and the money part disappears.

/Guy's a televangelist equivalent for atheist techbros.
//His car orbits the sun?  BFD.  Ours do too.
 
Juc
2021-12-08 10:18:09 AM  
Well explosions are pretty cool.
provided you're not being exploded.
 
2021-12-08 10:23:36 AM  
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2021-12-08 10:23:44 AM  

Telos: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: There's a simple rule.

If a corporation wants it, oppose it. If a corporation fronted by a famous CEO wants it, oppose it with everything you have.

I mean, he's also pretty vocal about wanting to stop global climate change. So are you opposing stopping climate change?


Thank you for defending the World's Richest Man. When the Killbots come, you will be lightly maimed.
 
2021-12-08 10:44:33 AM  
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2021-12-08 10:45:03 AM  

aimtastic: Quantumbunny: Martian_Astronomer: I've sold spaceports to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map!

Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-pad spaceport!

Spaceport?

SPACEPORT!


I hear those things are awfully loud.
 
2021-12-08 10:46:24 AM  
We've had fifty years to see the results of trickle down economics. Anyone who makes less than a million a year and suports it, just wants to get farked in the ass. Hard.
I'm not saying that's wrong, but it is what it is.
 
2021-12-08 10:46:35 AM  
/Guy's a televangelist equivalent for atheist techbros.
//His car orbits the sun?  BFD.  Ours do too.


heh, + 1
 
2021-12-08 11:07:22 AM  

madgonad: They did the deal all wrong.

Letting the nuisance in first was bound to create a situation in which their presence 'lowered' property values which was in turn used (as well as new utility rules) which made the surrounding property cheaper to buy piecemeal. The holdouts could be picked-off in the end with the help of Eminent Domain and friendly local politicians. They should have done what was done in Kansas City, Kansas when a huge redevelopment was planned. They bought everybody out at a value far higher than the current market as a single sale. Sure there were some holdouts then that thought their $120k 2BR ranch was worth a million, but the deal got done and nobody got ripped off.

Oh yeah, Fark Musk. Just wanted to throw that one in there.


Huh? They're biatching about gentrification. Why? I have no idea. They could sell their crappy $50k crap shack for $300k and move to some hinterland where they could have a comparable life experience, but, with more dollars in their wallets. Basically, they're the idiots you'd expect to live out in the middle of no where.

But NOOOOOOooooooo. They have to fark it all up by whining about the ridgeback mosquito or whatever the fark lives out at the spaceport that literally nothing--ever--would miss.

/I'm a weird nerd. And these are my opinions.
 
2021-12-08 11:22:25 AM  

LewDux: darth sunshine: atlantic_lotion: Loss of wildlife my ass. The regions around Kennedy Space Center are a wildlife refuge thanks to the exclusion areas set up around the launch pads.

Elon can eat a bag of dicks but there's no reason to make shiat up, subby.

the real headline from the article:
Disgruntled neighbors and dwindling shorebirds jeopardize SpaceX expansion

Birds are not real, they can be programmed to do what government wants them to do


No, stupid. Birds are merely a single fifth dimensional being. What we see as "birds" are merely projections of this being into our dimension at innumerable points in spacetime.

As we all know.
 
2021-12-08 11:24:25 AM  

BenSaw2: aimtastic: Quantumbunny: Martian_Astronomer: I've sold spaceports to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map!

Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-pad spaceport!

Spaceport?

SPACEPORT!

I hear those things are awfully loud.


Only 'till they reach the clouds!
 
2021-12-08 11:26:30 AM  

The Green Intern: Telos: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: There's a simple rule.

If a corporation wants it, oppose it. If a corporation fronted by a famous CEO wants it, oppose it with everything you have.

I mean, he's also pretty vocal about wanting to stop global climate change. So are you opposing stopping climate change?

He's "pretty vocal" about a lot of things.  Yet when he's given an opportunity to put his money where his mouth is, he always seems to double down on the mouth part, and the money part disappears.

/Guy's a televangelist equivalent for atheist techbros.
//His car orbits the sun?  BFD.  Ours do too.


He doesn't have any money.  He owns a couple companies.  One of those companies is spending every cent they make trying to combat global climate change.

I'm not sure what you want him to do.  Sell Tesla to someone else who would start trying to slow them down to extract money like a good capitalist, and then create some other company that plants trees or something?
 
2021-12-08 11:30:57 AM  

atlantic_lotion: Loss of wildlife my ass. The regions around Kennedy Space Center are a wildlife refuge thanks to the exclusion areas set up around the launch pads.
Elon can eat a bag of dicks but there's no reason to make shiat up, subby.


So would you like to live near a rocket launching pad?  would you like one in your backyard?  Why not, it would be cool as hell.  How big is  rocket port anyway?  At least as big as a regular airport, probably bigger.  Why wouldn't you want to live next to that?
But fark the animals, if Elon wants to shoot his big dick all over space.
 
2021-12-08 11:38:00 AM  
Its texas. It wont be long before someone decides to just take a shot at the rocket to take it out of comission
 
2021-12-08 11:46:05 AM  

Destructor: Huh? They're biatching about gentrification. Why? I have no idea. They could sell their crappy $50k crap shack for $300k and move to some hinterland where they could have a comparable life experience, but, with more dollars in their wallets. Basically, they're the idiots you'd expect to live out in the middle of no where.

But NOOOOOOooooooo. They have to fark it all up by whining about the ridgeback mosquito or whatever the fark lives out at the spaceport that literally nothing--ever--would miss.

/I'm a weird nerd. And these are my opinions.


You..... didn't read the whole article did you?

The whining about the environment is pointless. They live in TX. Not even the city of Austin's government cares about that in TX.

The problem is letting a giant industrial entity in that is directly adjacent to existing homes. Those homes were doomed to eventual acquisition from day one. The entirety of the design and testing area should have been part of the deal from day 1.

This is how close the townspeople are to the launch facility.
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2021-12-08 11:52:48 AM  

madgonad: Destructor: Huh? They're biatching about gentrification. Why? I have no idea. They could sell their crappy $50k crap shack for $300k and move to some hinterland where they could have a comparable life experience, but, with more dollars in their wallets. Basically, they're the idiots you'd expect to live out in the middle of no where.

But NOOOOOOooooooo. They have to fark it all up by whining about the ridgeback mosquito or whatever the fark lives out at the spaceport that literally nothing--ever--would miss.

/I'm a weird nerd. And these are my opinions.

You..... didn't read the whole article did you?

The whining about the environment is pointless. They live in TX. Not even the city of Austin's government cares about that in TX.

The problem is letting a giant industrial entity in that is directly adjacent to existing homes. Those homes were doomed to eventual acquisition from day one. The entirety of the design and testing area should have been part of the deal from day 1.

This is how close the townspeople are to the launch facility.
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Dang that looks like pistol range. Like honestly, Elon did not think this through. He is literally one crazy person away from the biggest lawsuit in the country
 
2021-12-08 11:59:17 AM  

lifeslammer: Dang that looks like pistol range. Like honestly, Elon did not think this through. He is literally one crazy person away from the biggest lawsuit in the country


Oh yeah. Easily in range of my 308. Has Musk even done the math? Proximity + Texas gun ownership rate + disgruntled
 
2021-12-08 12:09:47 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: I've sold spaceports to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and, by gum, it put them on the map!

Well, sir, there's nothin' on Earth like a genuine bona-fide electrified six-pad spaceport!


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-12-08 1:14:13 PM  

madgonad: Destructor: Huh? They're biatching about gentrification. Why? I have no idea. They could sell their crappy $50k crap shack for $300k and move to some hinterland where they could have a comparable life experience, but, with more dollars in their wallets. Basically, they're the idiots you'd expect to live out in the middle of no where.

But NOOOOOOooooooo. They have to fark it all up by whining about the ridgeback mosquito or whatever the fark lives out at the spaceport that literally nothing--ever--would miss.

/I'm a weird nerd. And these are my opinions.

You..... didn't read the whole article did you?

The whining about the environment is pointless. They live in TX. Not even the city of Austin's government cares about that in TX.

The problem is letting a giant industrial entity in that is directly adjacent to existing homes. Those homes were doomed to eventual acquisition from day one. The entirety of the design and testing area should have been part of the deal from day 1.

This is how close the townspeople are to the launch facility.
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No. And now I'm glad I didn't.

Am I supposed to feel sorry for these idiots? Are they deeply and spiritually connected to their easily floodable land? Because I don't. I feel spiritually annoyed by their lack of financial sense and their priority of themselves over mankind's conquest of space. For they are idiots.
 
2021-12-08 1:18:20 PM  

seanpg71: He doesn't have any money. He owns a couple companies. One of those companies is spending every cent they make trying to combat global climate change.

I'm not sure what you want him to do. Sell Tesla to someone else who would start trying to slow them down to extract money like a good capitalist, and then create some other company that plants trees or something?


You're going to sit here and tell me the guy constantly called "The World's Richest Man", has no money?

Huh.
 
2021-12-08 1:24:07 PM  

lifeslammer: madgonad: Destructor: Huh? They're biatching about gentrification. Why? I have no idea. They could sell their crappy $50k crap shack for $300k and move to some hinterland where they could have a comparable life experience, but, with more dollars in their wallets. Basically, they're the idiots you'd expect to live out in the middle of no where.

But NOOOOOOooooooo. They have to fark it all up by whining about the ridgeback mosquito or whatever the fark lives out at the spaceport that literally nothing--ever--would miss.

/I'm a weird nerd. And these are my opinions.

You..... didn't read the whole article did you?

The whining about the environment is pointless. They live in TX. Not even the city of Austin's government cares about that in TX.

The problem is letting a giant industrial entity in that is directly adjacent to existing homes. Those homes were doomed to eventual acquisition from day one. The entirety of the design and testing area should have been part of the deal from day 1.

This is how close the townspeople are to the launch facility.
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Dang that looks like pistol range. Like honestly, Elon did not think this through. He is literally one crazy person away from the biggest lawsuit in the country


That's not the launch facility.
 
2021-12-08 2:28:38 PM  

atlantic_lotion: Loss of wildlife my ass. The regions around Kennedy Space Center are a wildlife refuge thanks to the exclusion areas set up around the launch pads.

Elon can eat a bag of dicks but there's no reason to make shiat up, subby.


Small wildlife will love it.  Big wildlife won't be so happy.  And I'm not surprised they can't find equivalent property elsewhere--I'm sure one of the reasons he picked the place is low land prices.

madgonad: Letting the nuisance in first was bound to create a situation in which their presence 'lowered' property values which was in turn used (as well as new utility rules) which made the surrounding property cheaper to buy piecemeal. The holdouts could be picked-off in the end with the help of Eminent Domain and friendly local politicians. They should have done what was done in Kansas City, Kansas when a huge redevelopment was planned. They bought everybody out at a value far higher than the current market as a single sale. Sure there were some holdouts then that thought their $120k 2BR ranch was worth a million, but the deal got done and nobody got ripped off.


He already tried to buy the whole place.  They turned him down.
 
Xai
2021-12-08 2:31:35 PM  
Living the republican dream
 
2021-12-08 3:07:15 PM  

Xai: Living the republican dream


Of living on a property that suddenly because 6x more than it was?

Yes. Pretty much.
 
2021-12-08 3:12:53 PM  

Destructor: For they are idiots.


I had to smart my own post. How embarrassing.
 
2021-12-08 3:34:22 PM  

The Green Intern: seanpg71: He doesn't have any money. He owns a couple companies. One of those companies is spending every cent they make trying to combat global climate change.

I'm not sure what you want him to do. Sell Tesla to someone else who would start trying to slow them down to extract money like a good capitalist, and then create some other company that plants trees or something?

You're going to sit here and tell me the guy constantly called "The World's Richest Man", has no money?

Huh.


I am.

He has a high net worth, but he doesnt have a vault full of dollar bills.  Its all Tesla and SpaceX.  If Tesla is as overvalued as people claim and collapses, he'll be worth quite a lot less soon.

He takes out loans backed by his Tesla stock when he wants money.  He certainly has access to as much as he wants.  And theoretically he could sell Tesla stock, but every time he does so, he gives up part of his company.

So if you want him to put his money where his mouth is... well, thats what he's doing.  The vast majority of his money is tied up in Tesla, a company trying to hasten the switch to renewable energy.  You want him to instead stop doing that and what, start some other new company?  Give it to Greenpeace?
 
2021-12-08 5:07:31 PM  

seanpg71: The Green Intern: seanpg71: He doesn't have any money. He owns a couple companies. One of those companies is spending every cent they make trying to combat global climate change.

I'm not sure what you want him to do. Sell Tesla to someone else who would start trying to slow them down to extract money like a good capitalist, and then create some other company that plants trees or something?

You're going to sit here and tell me the guy constantly called "The World's Richest Man", has no money?

Huh.

I am.

He has a high net worth, but he doesnt have a vault full of dollar bills.  Its all Tesla and SpaceX.  If Tesla is as overvalued as people claim and collapses, he'll be worth quite a lot less soon.

He takes out loans backed by his Tesla stock when he wants money.  He certainly has access to as much as he wants.  And theoretically he could sell Tesla stock, but every time he does so, he gives up part of his company.

So if you want him to put his money where his mouth is... well, thats what he's doing.  The vast majority of his money is tied up in Tesla, a company trying to hasten the switch to renewable energy.  You want him to instead stop doing that and what, start some other new company?  Give it to Greenpeace?


Doing what he farking said he would do might be a start.

Musk said he'd sell stock to fund a plan to end world hunger if the UN World Food Programme gave him a detailed breakdown and usage of money for said plan.  They did, and suddenly he got reeeeeeal quiet on that front.

Look, you can white knight him all you want, but the guy's a blowhard.  He buys up companies, pays for the rights to claim he founded them, then walks into a room like he's God's gift to technology instead of wish.com Tony Stark.
 
2021-12-08 6:04:44 PM  

The Green Intern: seanpg71: The Green Intern: seanpg71: He doesn't have any money. He owns a couple companies. One of those companies is spending every cent they make trying to combat global climate change.

I'm not sure what you want him to do. Sell Tesla to someone else who would start trying to slow them down to extract money like a good capitalist, and then create some other company that plants trees or something?

You're going to sit here and tell me the guy constantly called "The World's Richest Man", has no money?

Huh.

I am.

He has a high net worth, but he doesnt have a vault full of dollar bills.  Its all Tesla and SpaceX.  If Tesla is as overvalued as people claim and collapses, he'll be worth quite a lot less soon.

He takes out loans backed by his Tesla stock when he wants money.  He certainly has access to as much as he wants.  And theoretically he could sell Tesla stock, but every time he does so, he gives up part of his company.

So if you want him to put his money where his mouth is... well, thats what he's doing.  The vast majority of his money is tied up in Tesla, a company trying to hasten the switch to renewable energy.  You want him to instead stop doing that and what, start some other new company?  Give it to Greenpeace?

Doing what he farking said he would do might be a start.

Musk said he'd sell stock to fund a plan to end world hunger if the UN World Food Programme gave him a detailed breakdown and usage of money for said plan.  They did, and suddenly he got reeeeeeal quiet on that front.

Look, you can white knight him all you want, but the guy's a blowhard.  He buys up companies, pays for the rights to claim he founded them, then walks into a room like he's God's gift to technology instead of wish.com Tony Stark.


You're mad because of a way some dork with money walks into a room? get a life
 
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