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    More: Scary, Immune system, Vaccination, new study, Vaccine, Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine, South Africa, Omicron variant, Alex Sigal  
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2021-12-08 6:32:42 AM  
Season one of this show was meandering and unconvincing.   Now they're just making up anything.
 
2021-12-08 6:35:55 AM  
The study used samples taken from six people who received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine without ever being infected with COVID-19 and samples from a different set of six people who had recovered from infection prior to receiving vaccine shots.

Eh, 12 person sample size.

Might be biased though because I got the Pfizer jabs first, but just got the Moderna booster on Friday, so I'll wait to pandemic panic
 
2021-12-08 6:37:37 AM  

born_yesterday: Season one of this show was meandering and unconvincing.   Now they're just making up anything.


I had a difficult time accepting the covidiots as villains. It seemed too implausible to have them so unerringly stupid, selfish and hostile absolutely all the time.
 
2021-12-08 6:40:01 AM  
I don't think I learned much from that at all.  41-fold decrease?  That's something, but I don't know the size of the fold or my starting point or its unit of measure.  Everything was undefined.
 
2021-12-08 6:41:51 AM  
"The Omicron variant decreased the levels of antibodies in vaccinated participants..."

What terrible, bullshiat science reporting/editing.
 
2021-12-08 6:42:52 AM  

freakdiablo: The study used samples taken from six people who received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine without ever being infected with COVID-19 and samples from a different set of six people who had recovered from infection prior to receiving vaccine shots.

Eh, 12 person sample size.

Might be biased though because I got the Pfizer jabs first, but just got the Moderna booster on Friday, so I'll wait to pandemic panic


It's IBT.  They were one of the worst purveyors of nonsense during the 2016 election and only recently just returned to fark (less than a year ago).  I am curious if they pay Fark in rubles or RMB.
 
2021-12-08 6:46:33 AM  
Ohio is back to January levels of new cases but deaths are down to 1%, pending the Christmas rush.  Not sure which variant is prevalent.
 
2021-12-08 6:51:12 AM  

BafflerMeal: "The Omicron variant decreased the levels of antibodies in vaccinated participants..."

What terrible, bullshiat science reporting/editing.


Preprint of study manuscript here: ("SARS-CoV-2 Omicron has extensive but incomplete escape of Pfizer BNT162b2 elicited neutralization and requires ACE2 for infection")

https://sigallab.net/
 
2021-12-08 6:53:22 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Stupid trash people who have problems with sensible precautions will get over it.


Difficulty: people like the troll you quoted have no sense. If they did they wouldn't be treating a pandemic vaccination like The Mother of All Evil Conspiracies (Because Q and TFG Said So). They wanted their ignorance to be as importance as our intelligence, now their ignorance is forcing us to be more intelligent.
 
2021-12-08 6:57:53 AM  
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2021-12-08 7:00:15 AM  

Stud Gerbil: Ohio is back to January levels of new cases but deaths are down to 1%, pending the Christmas rush.  Not sure which variant is prevalent.


If you have to ask right now, it's Delta in the US.

Here's Ohio's department of health COVID-19 variant monitoring.
 
2021-12-08 7:04:39 AM  
And now for round 4 of "will it give me a heart attack this time" m-m-M-M-MEGA booster!
 
2021-12-08 7:07:10 AM  

Gordon Bennett: born_yesterday: Season one of this show was meandering and unconvincing.   Now they're just making up anything.

I had a difficult time accepting the covidiots as villains. It seemed too implausible to have them so unerringly stupid, selfish and hostile absolutely all the time.


It's the Irritable Bowel Daily. You are surprised the article is full of shiat?
 
2021-12-08 7:08:03 AM  

CheatCommando: Gordon Bennett: born_yesterday: Season one of this show was meandering and unconvincing.   Now they're just making up anything.

I had a difficult time accepting the covidiots as villains. It seemed too implausible to have them so unerringly stupid, selfish and hostile absolutely all the time.

It's the Irritable Bowel Daily. You are surprised the article is full of shiat?


I thought International Business Times was okayish and Investor's Business Daily was the garbage one. Do I have them mixed up?
 
2021-12-08 7:16:25 AM  

FriarReb98: NuclearPenguins: Stupid trash people who have problems with sensible precautions will get over it.

Difficulty: people like the troll you quoted have no sense. If they did they wouldn't be treating a pandemic vaccination like The Mother of All Evil Conspiracies (Because Q and TFG Said So). They wanted their ignorance to be as importance as our intelligence, now their ignorance is forcing us to be more intelligent.


Honestly they don't really force me to do anything, I take precautions, got vaccinated, and moved on with my life.

Intelligence doesn't really even factor into it, I know an otherwise smart guy who fell into the antivaxx nonsense.  If they buy into a worldview enough it doesn't matter how smart they are.
 
2021-12-08 7:19:07 AM  
Pfizer says that a third dose works against omicron

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcne​ws.com/news/amp/rcna7970
 
2021-12-08 7:21:11 AM  
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2021-12-08 7:24:09 AM  
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2021-12-08 7:31:58 AM  

freakdiablo: The study used samples taken from six people who received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine without ever being infected with COVID-19 and samples from a different set of six people who had recovered from infection prior to receiving vaccine shots.

Eh, 12 person sample size.

Might be biased though because I got the Pfizer jabs first, but just got the Moderna booster on Friday, so I'll wait to pandemic panic


But it's an un-reviewed manuscript put on the internet that even the lead author said has flaws.

I've already eaten my neighbors.
 
2021-12-08 7:33:49 AM  
How do you know a family watches Fox News?  You find them begging on go-fund-me for funeral expenses.

What the difference between Trumphumping COVIDiots and trash?  Trash doesn't take itself out.

I love reading Herman Caine awards. I never want COVIDiots to stop dying for my amusement.
 
2021-12-08 7:35:02 AM  
And now there's a variant of the Omicron variant.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-0​8​/qld-coronavirus-covid-omicron-variant​/100682280

/It's variant's all the way down.
 
2021-12-08 7:36:31 AM  

Archie Goodwin: And now there's a variant of the Omicron variant.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-08​/qld-coronavirus-covid-omicron-variant​/100682280

/It's variant's all the way down.


Well, sure.  That's how genetic replication works.
 
2021-12-08 7:38:51 AM  
Information and knowledge change over time, and this frustrates and confuses me.
I thereby declare all new information to be fake news.
Problem solved.
 
2021-12-08 7:39:25 AM  

jso2897: Information and knowledge change over time, and this frustrates and confuses me.
I thereby declare all new information to be fake news.
Problem solved.


Hmm, but this a new declaration and thus new information.  So it must be fake too.
 
2021-12-08 7:42:09 AM  
Anyone who's played Pandemic 2/Plague Inc. knows you modify your virus to be more transmissible but minimally symptomatic, wait for the entire globe to be infected, and only then do you activate the most lethal effects.
 
2021-12-08 7:47:02 AM  

RedPhoenix122: jso2897: Information and knowledge change over time, and this frustrates and confuses me.
I thereby declare all new information to be fake news.
Problem solved.

Hmm, but this a new declaration and thus new information.  So it must be fake too.


That's the Catch-22.
 
2021-12-08 7:47:11 AM  
Vaccinated, don't curr
 
2021-12-08 7:50:14 AM  

Parthenogenetic: Anyone who's played Pandemic 2/Plague Inc. knows you modify your virus to be more transmissible but minimally symptomatic, wait for the entire globe to be infected, and only then do you activate the most lethal effects.


that only works on lower difficulty levels.

For brutal and mega brutal you usually have to balance transmission symptoms with lethality and stay just above the death wave so you don't burn out before the curse is found and spread. For the virus plague type it mutates so fast that you don't really have time to spread it much before it is detected. You have to maximize the virus complexity and transmission to avoid the cure research being effective.

in the game people are actually mindful about mitigating the spread of diseases though they do have a couple scenarios where being republican is the disease.

Also this thread is dildos... already. Mark mods. I hope you're proud.
 
2021-12-08 7:52:58 AM  

FriarReb98: NuclearPenguins: Stupid trash people who have problems with sensible precautions will get over it.

Difficulty: people like the troll you quoted have no sense. If they did they wouldn't be treating a pandemic vaccination like The Mother of All Evil Conspiracies (Because Q and TFG Said So). They wanted their ignorance to be as importance as our intelligence, now their ignorance is forcing us to be more intelligent.


I've spent the last week being attacked by people on twitter who are literally arguing with the goddamn Auschwitz museum over the Museum saying that vaccinations weren't like the Holocaust.
 
2021-12-08 7:54:41 AM  

khitsicker: Parthenogenetic: Anyone who's played Pandemic 2/Plague Inc. knows you modify your virus to be more transmissible but minimally symptomatic, wait for the entire globe to be infected, and only then do you activate the most lethal effects.

that only works on lower difficulty levels.

For brutal and mega brutal you usually have to balance transmission symptoms with lethality and stay just above the death wave so you don't burn out before the curse is found and spread. For the virus plague type it mutates so fast that you don't really have time to spread it much before it is detected. You have to maximize the virus complexity and transmission to avoid the cure research being effective.

in the game people are actually mindful about mitigating the spread of diseases though they do have a couple scenarios where being republican is the disease.

Also this thread is dildos... already. Mark mods. I hope you're proud.


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This playthrough is obviously not at Brutal difficulty.

In some states, it's at Casual
 
2021-12-08 7:55:31 AM  
 
2021-12-08 7:56:40 AM  
Lol. You just need a third dose!
But wait, there's more!!
 
2021-12-08 7:58:58 AM  

Parthenogenetic: In some states, it's at Casual


in some states they have cheats enabled
 
2021-12-08 7:59:04 AM  

born_yesterday: Season one of this show was meandering and unconvincing.   Now they're just making up anything.


Username checks out
 
2021-12-08 8:10:11 AM  

dumbobruni: Pfizer says that a third dose works against omicron

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcne​ws.com/news/amp/rcna7970


thank you for this.

it had something that keeps getting left out of discussions:
"Scientists need to understand transmissible the omicron variant is (early indications suggest it's more contagious than the delta variant) as well as how sick it makes people (early data suggests the illness caused by the variant is milder)."
 
2021-12-08 8:13:23 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I don't think I learned much from that at all.  41-fold decrease?  That's something, but I don't know the size of the fold or my starting point or its unit of measure.  Everything was undefined.


It's a small study and an utterly shiat article.
 
2021-12-08 8:22:12 AM  
Today's fix of pandemic fear porn.  Vaxxes still work.

Sorry antivaxxers, you are still the ones farked.
 
2021-12-08 8:27:43 AM  
"In the first official statement from vaccine manufacturers on the likely efficacy of their shot against Omicron, BioNTech and Pfizer said in a joint statement that two vaccine doses resulted in significantly lower neutralizing antibodies but that a third dose of their vaccine increased the neutralising antibodies by a factor of 25. "


https://www.investing.com/news/stock-​m​arket-news/dow-jones-futures-rise-100-​pts-positive-pfizer-vaccine-news-helps​-2704201


I give up.
 
2021-12-08 8:28:25 AM  
 
2021-12-08 8:30:06 AM  
53 MINUTES AGO
Pfizer Omicron Vaccine Update Lifts Dow Futures, Extends Best Rally Since March

https://www.thestreet.com/markets/pfi​z​er-omicron-vaccine-update-lifts-dow-fu​tures-extends-rally
 
2021-12-08 8:31:50 AM  

asmodeus224: Today's fix of pandemic fear porn.  Vaxxes still work.

Sorry antivaxxers, you are still the ones farked.


Shhhh. Not so loud.
 
2021-12-08 8:33:11 AM  
I just got my booster. Any reports on how effective a third dose is against Omicron???
 
2021-12-08 8:33:35 AM  
This is not a real story yet. Give it some incubation time before you set your hair on fire.
 
2021-12-08 8:34:21 AM  
Guys, the antivax crowd has had two years to understand this. If they don't, by now, they're invested in their ignorance.

Move on.
 
2021-12-08 8:35:20 AM  
Every election, candidates say "I'm a successful businessman and I'll run the government like a business". That's usually code for "low taxes and reduced employee protections".

Biden provided a convenient cover to business owners for something a lot wanted to require anyway. If businesses didn't want it, they have the means to fight it in court, but they're not. Even the conservative lead ones (and many are) shrugged and said "you're the boss, Joe."

What's an easy way for a company to reduce healthcare premiums? Require a vaccine that reduces the 17 times increased chance of hospitalization.

But...but...but what about mandating against abusing alcohol or being fat?  Well, in a normal world 30 something John in IT who nightly on dines salty, fatty takeout and a 6 pack won't start racking up health costs until he's in his 50s and by then a company can replace him with someone younger. With Covid, that lifestyle could land him in the ER by next Wednesday.


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2021-12-08 8:39:38 AM  
Are they a big fan of open source software?
 
2021-12-08 8:43:59 AM  

scanman61: Are they a big fan of open source software?


Arrrgggghhhh!!!

Was replying to:

/I only have one person who likes to respond to every person in a thread separately so I'll go into a thread and see a series of 3 grey posts, the normal thread, and then a series of 3 greyed out posts again.
//always be sure to add a tag, those make me chuckle
 
2021-12-08 8:45:49 AM  

sleze: freakdiablo: The study used samples taken from six people who received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine without ever being infected with COVID-19 and samples from a different set of six people who had recovered from infection prior to receiving vaccine shots.

Eh, 12 person sample size.

Might be biased though because I got the Pfizer jabs first, but just got the Moderna booster on Friday, so I'll wait to pandemic panic

It's IBT.  They were one of the worst purveyors of nonsense during the 2016 election and only recently just returned to fark (less than a year ago).  I am curious if they pay Fark in rubles or RMB.


Next up, Sputnick is somehow magically the most effective against Omicron due to these dozen studies done with no peer review.
 
2021-12-08 8:46:04 AM  
Well by all means, let's just continue to let Perfect be the enemy of Good.

If the vaccine doesn't erect an invisible forcefield around my body that repels virus particles like when you try to stick two magnets together at the wrong ends, then what's even the point?
 
2021-12-08 8:47:56 AM  
I make liberal use of the ignore feature on fark, because there are trolls and idiots.  I don't use either of those lightly either. If they only threadshiat and run, or argue in bad faith there's nothing to be gained from reading or responding to them.
 
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