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(Independent)   Alcohol-related deaths in the UK rose to record levels last year. Gee, it's almost as if something major were happening that drove people to drink more   (independent.co.uk) divider line
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2021-12-07 5:36:47 PM  
It's almost as if the mental health and death toll of lockdowns are far more dangerous than the virus itself.
 
2021-12-07 5:37:38 PM  
Was on vacation in Key West this weekend.  Met a British bartender, she assured me the English were born and bred to drink, nothing has to drive them to drink.
 
2021-12-07 5:39:13 PM  

Mimekiller: It's almost as if the mental health and death toll of lockdowns are far more dangerous than the virus itself.


If you are vaccinated
 
2021-12-07 5:40:14 PM  
We should deport James Corden, that'll cheer em up
 
2021-12-07 5:40:30 PM  
The US doesn't track overdose deaths or addiction.  We do in BC.  The number of deaths from opioid deaths alone increased  by 85% over the pandemic and are significantly higher than those from COVID.  Being an alcoholic in the system for several years I have seen many folks I knew die over the last few years.
 
2021-12-07 5:42:09 PM  
Yet marijuana is the problem, right?
 
2021-12-07 5:44:36 PM  
Or even two major things.
 
2021-12-07 5:45:46 PM  
It's almost as if during a pandemic people said dumb as fark stuff about the virus not being so deadly that it made a lot of people want to drink more.
 
2021-12-07 5:48:31 PM  
You can't destroy a liver in under a year with alcohol.  I've been trying for 20+ years.
 
2021-12-07 5:49:09 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: It's almost as if during a pandemic people said dumb as fark stuff about the virus not being so deadly that it made a lot of people want to drink more.


No, it's because services have been withdrawn and downsized along with the fact that addicts and alcoholics are using alone.  Truth bomb, most alcoholics die from falls not liver damage.  If there is no one coming round to check on them that is what happens.
 
2021-12-07 5:49:25 PM  
It's the other way around, I figure. There's nowhere to drive to, so why not drink! And since beer is heavy, better stick to hard liquor to save the back. Wouldn't want to have to go to hospital in the middle of a lockdown because you sprained your back hauling enough beer to get you through two weeks.
 
2021-12-07 5:51:07 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: It's almost as if during a pandemic people said dumb as fark stuff about the virus not being so deadly that it made a lot of people want to drink more.


Or people saying "it will wipe most of us out" could drive someone to drink.

But I am going to assume being isolated at home, being out of work, or working from home three feet from the liquor cabinet are significant causes.
 
2021-12-07 5:53:45 PM  
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2021-12-07 5:57:45 PM  

Mimekiller: It's almost as if the mental health and death toll of lockdowns are far more dangerous than the virus itself.



FTA: A total of 8,974 deaths related to alcohol-specific causes were registered in the UK last year, or 14.0 deaths per 100,000 people. This is up 18.6% on the 7,565 deaths registered in 2019,


As sad and unnecessary as those extra 1,400 deaths are, that's less than a day's worth of fatalities from Covid 19 in the UK at its peak.
 
2021-12-07 5:58:24 PM  

Mimekiller: It's almost as if the mental health and death toll of lockdowns are far more dangerous than the virus itself.


"Let me infect you with a debilitating virus or I'll drink myself to death!"
 
2021-12-07 6:00:59 PM  
Opioid deaths in B.C. far outpaced those from COVID-19

Alcohol related deaths are skyrocketing too.  To those how to try to hang on to the idea that COVID deaths are higher I say fark you sir.  That is part of the problem.
 
2021-12-07 6:25:12 PM  

Greylight: Opioid deaths in B.C. far outpaced those from COVID-19

Alcohol related deaths are skyrocketing too.  To those how to try to hang on to the idea that COVID deaths are higher I say fark you sir.  That is part of the problem.



The article is about the UK. We had 4,500 ODs in England and Wales last year (up 4%) with a population of about 55 million people. We also had over 70 thousand Covid fatalities in 2020 (and the same again since then) compared to just eleven hundred in BC in the year.

The fact that BC had 2,000 ODs in one year with a population of 5 million is a terrible statistic, but really doesn't say anything particularly meaningful about the relative dangers of Covid 19 vs drugs.
 
2021-12-07 6:25:13 PM  
Happened to me.

Started working for county government. At this point drinking is a necessity.
 
2021-12-07 6:29:31 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Greylight: Opioid deaths in B.C. far outpaced those from COVID-19

Alcohol related deaths are skyrocketing too.  To those how to try to hang on to the idea that COVID deaths are higher I say fark you sir.  That is part of the problem.


The article is about the UK. We had 4,500 ODs in England and Wales last year (up 4%) with a population of about 55 million people. We also had over 70 thousand Covid fatalities in 2020 (and the same again since then) compared to just eleven hundred in BC in the year.

The fact that BC had 2,000 ODs in one year with a population of 5 million is a terrible statistic, but really doesn't say anything particularly meaningful about the relative dangers of Covid 19 vs drugs.


It does speak to different epidemics we are all fighting at the moment and dare I say the way we track these things.  Drinking has increased dramatically overall in our populations with differing fluctuations but it will all take a toll and deserves more attention now than ever.
 
2021-12-07 6:37:25 PM  
Funny. When lockdowns hit my drinking was cut les than half.

Almost had to leave Fark.
 
2021-12-07 6:40:14 PM  

Greylight: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Greylight: Opioid deaths in B.C. far outpaced those from COVID-19

Alcohol related deaths are skyrocketing too.  To those how to try to hang on to the idea that COVID deaths are higher I say fark you sir.  That is part of the problem.


The article is about the UK. We had 4,500 ODs in England and Wales last year (up 4%) with a population of about 55 million people. We also had over 70 thousand Covid fatalities in 2020 (and the same again since then) compared to just eleven hundred in BC in the year.

The fact that BC had 2,000 ODs in one year with a population of 5 million is a terrible statistic, but really doesn't say anything particularly meaningful about the relative dangers of Covid 19 vs drugs.

It does speak to different epidemics we are all fighting at the moment and dare I say the way we track these things.  Drinking has increased dramatically overall in our populations with differing fluctuations but it will all take a toll and deserves more attention now than ever.


It would be interesting to understand why smack is a fives times more common a cause of death in BC and why Covid 19 was five times deadlier in England and Wales.

But as you can see from this thread, some people want to jump straight to Covid 19 isn't a threat and lockdowns cause more deaths. That is not well evidenced.
 
2021-12-07 6:44:03 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Greylight: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Greylight: Opioid deaths in B.C. far outpaced those from COVID-19

Alcohol related deaths are skyrocketing too.  To those how to try to hang on to the idea that COVID deaths are higher I say fark you sir.  That is part of the problem.


The article is about the UK. We had 4,500 ODs in England and Wales last year (up 4%) with a population of about 55 million people. We also had over 70 thousand Covid fatalities in 2020 (and the same again since then) compared to just eleven hundred in BC in the year.

The fact that BC had 2,000 ODs in one year with a population of 5 million is a terrible statistic, but really doesn't say anything particularly meaningful about the relative dangers of Covid 19 vs drugs.

It does speak to different epidemics we are all fighting at the moment and dare I say the way we track these things.  Drinking has increased dramatically overall in our populations with differing fluctuations but it will all take a toll and deserves more attention now than ever.

It would be interesting to understand why smack is a fives times more common a cause of death in BC and why Covid 19 was five times deadlier in England and Wales.

But as you can see from this thread, some people want to jump straight to Covid 19 isn't a threat and lockdowns cause more deaths. That is not well evidenced.


Maybe because BC has a larger Indigenous population than England and Wales?  People in extreme poverty tend to turn to drugs for relief, and the Indigenous peoples of the USA and Canada are in extreme poverty.
 
2021-12-07 6:44:11 PM  
You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: ...

It would be interesting to understand why smack is a fives times more common a cause of death in BC and why Covid 19 was five times deadlier in England and Wales.


I'll just add that although I have no insight on BCs drug problem, I'm pretty sure that the absolutely dogshiat leadership we have in the UK were responsible for at least two thirds of our Covid deaths.
 
2021-12-07 6:48:06 PM  
Brrrrreeeexfast?
 
2021-12-07 7:08:54 PM  

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2021-12-07 7:19:16 PM  
No! Let me try again:

Brexfest!
 
2021-12-07 7:23:01 PM  

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Brexfest!


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2021-12-07 7:47:03 PM  
I can tell you for sure it's real. I live in Asia and was basically locked in a room for four months unable to go out, exercise, work or take a taxi or have guests in my home.

It's really easy to drink too much. You wake up, tea and breakfast, watch Netflix for a few hours and then start watching the bottle. Because if you're quarantined alone what else is on your schedule?
 
2021-12-07 7:55:09 PM  
I'm proud, I only had one who drink during lockdown.

Now, I did smoke a staggering amount of cannabis... but they send it right to my door!
 
2021-12-07 7:55:58 PM  
Why would people feel like drinking?

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2021-12-07 8:31:18 PM  
The doctors here in socialist Oz are now doing extensive blood tests with annual checkups.  The old standard was 2 tubes of blood tests, now it is 5.  They are doing additional testing for diabetes and nutrient deficiencies.

Being locked up indoors has cut back up exercise and lots of people fell into a routine of eating poorly.  Add in a shift of calories from real food to ethanol and lots of people will develop problems.

I wonder if an increase in liver related issues might have been helped by absorption of isopropyl and denaturing alcohols.  There are some hand sanitizers that kick up my heart rate so something bad is absorbed through the skin.

The primary medical indicator of too much booze is the ggt test. When the liver is breaking down too many toxins the cells die faster than normal and the ggt shows up in the blood test. Other organs that covid attacks also make ggt in smaller amounts but show up in the test with minor organ damage. They include the pancreas, spleen, gallbladder and kidneys.
 
2021-12-07 8:53:27 PM  

Mister Buttons: You can't destroy a liver in under a year with alcohol.  I've been trying for 20+ years.


Probably been about 20 years since I started drinking.  Maybe 10 years of it was hard drinking almost nightly. I'm pumping the brakes now. Wasn't hard, but now I'm working on finding things to do if I'm bored. My work closing for almost 2 months when Covid hit and sitting in my apartment not getting out did my liver a world of hurt, I'm sure.
 
2021-12-07 9:54:54 PM  

Eightballjacket: Lumbar Puncture: It's almost as if during a pandemic people said dumb as fark stuff about the virus not being so deadly that it made a lot of people want to drink more.

Or people saying "it will wipe most of us out" could drive someone to drink.

But I am going to assume being isolated at home, being out of work, or working from home three feet from the liquor cabinet are significant causes.


*Drink*
 
2021-12-08 2:05:43 AM  

bacchanalias and consequences: I can tell you for sure it's real. I live in Asia and was basically locked in a room for four months unable to go out, exercise, work or take a taxi or have guests in my home.

It's really easy to drink too much. You wake up, tea and breakfast, watch Netflix for a few hours and then start watching the bottle. Because if you're quarantined alone what else is on your schedule?


You wake up, tea and breakfast, watch Netflix for a few hours and then start watching the bottle.
 
2021-12-08 2:14:51 AM  

stevecore: Mister Buttons: You can't destroy a liver in under a year with alcohol.  I've been trying for 20+ years.

Probably been about 20 years since I started drinking.  Maybe 10 years of it was hard drinking almost nightly. I'm pumping the brakes now. Wasn't hard, but now I'm working on finding things to do if I'm bored. My work closing for almost 2 months when Covid hit and sitting in my apartment not getting out did my liver a world of hurt, I'm sure.


While true the liver can take some prolonged damaging, people can also alcohol poison themselves in a night "BAC levels above 0.40 are potentially fatal" (quick wiki)

How people can tilt that hard is honestly beyond me - but it can, evidently, be done.
 
2021-12-08 10:01:31 AM  
The 21nd Amendment is a curse upon this country.
 
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