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    More: Interesting, Gun, Weapon, indie studio Ward B, CEO Marcellino Sauceda, Maxim Kuzin, detailed weapon designs, Ward B's commitment, Kalashnikov Concern  
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2021-12-07 12:15:24 PM  
It's a Russian corporation. Kleptocracy is kind of their thing.
 
2021-12-07 12:43:54 PM  
They are probably in the clear since they apparently just wrapped an existing shotgun in a wrap that is "similar" to the one designed by ward.  And because of the way copyright and trademark laws work, you get the level of protection you can afford.  So long as there is a fig leaf of "well it technically shoots a different caliber" or "While the wrap is similar, the stock goes dum dum doo duh duh dum do and therefore and such as case dismissed.
 
2021-12-07 12:50:24 PM  
Suing each other based on virtual penis extenders.  Nice.
 
2021-12-07 12:51:55 PM  
Seriously.
I'm torn.
I believe people should get paid.
But. I.P. really seems like some 🐂 💩
Especially when it's from the likes of  Lars Ulrich. If someone steals your song, you was never going to get paid.
And, a gun company was never going to hire some gamer fark heads.
🙄
Ideas are not protected. Period. And if you ask me hearing a song is a farking idea. And a gun in fiction is also a farking idea. JFC.
fark you Lars.
 
2021-12-07 1:03:57 PM  
I think the real irony of this is that pump action shotguns are just a video game trope at this point (and only as a power balance, like how SMGs "magically" hurt less than a same caliber pistol). Tech has developed enough that automatic loading shotguns are where they will be in the future.

Though I suppose that pump action will always be the rage in Alabama
 
2021-12-07 1:14:26 PM  
Well this journalism has definitely caused me to question certain ethics in play.
 
2021-12-07 1:23:05 PM  

lifeslammer: I think the real irony of this is that pump action shotguns are just a video game trope at this point (and only as a power balance, like how SMGs "magically" hurt less than a same caliber pistol). Tech has developed enough that automatic loading shotguns are where they will be in the future.

Though I suppose that pump action will always be the rage in Alabama


I like that people have sort have started to expect "play balance" as a thing that exists in reality
 
2021-12-07 1:53:10 PM  
Okay this story did not go where i thought it was.   It was basically the reverse.   I thought it was going to be that some game company used a real life weapon in game with out getting the pertinent permissions.
 
2021-12-07 2:19:06 PM  
"We're looking to have them very, very scientifically explainable," CEO Marcellino Sauceda tells me. "There's actually a few weapons we ended up scrapping and not putting in the game because there were design flaws that we weren't too happy with in the end."

Gear and Borderlands laugh alongside guns with legs.

Actually, I've only seen leg gun once, the rest are MIRV's and the odd turrent
 
2021-12-07 2:55:55 PM  
IP is the bane of all progress.

'Game Developer Accuses Real-Life Weapons Manufacturer of Stealing Its Gun Design... Twice"


as if any gun design in a game was not itself already take from/inspired by, a real world gun design.


Also the basic form of a gun is basically always the same, it's form is due to it's functionality.
As long as it is in fact preforming the same function, then fooking department of duh, the design will be really similar too.

If we were the process of evolution, then there would only be one bird in all of existence, the first bird that got the IP on the wing design of fatter in front tappers to thinner in the back, prevents all other birds from coming into existence in the first place.


Which world do you really want?
the world where we get one flower and one flower only, because that flower got the IP papers, so all other flowers had to fook off and not be flowers.
Or the world where, you do not personally get all that to yourself alone, but you as part of the we get ALL THIS.


private IP  control like this, stifles innovation, it does not at all promote it, not even just a little.
 
2021-12-07 3:06:32 PM  
Just wait ten years, and anyone involved deserves nothing, according to Fark.
 
2021-12-07 3:20:59 PM  
It has a trigger and a hole at the end where the bullets fly out, ITS A COPY!
 
2021-12-07 3:23:54 PM  

lifeslammer: I think the real irony of this is that pump action shotguns are just a video game trope at this point (and only as a power balance, like how SMGs "magically" hurt less than a same caliber pistol). Tech has developed enough that automatic loading shotguns are where they will be in the future.

Though I suppose that pump action will always be the rage in Alabama


Pumps are still good for one thing.  There isn't a human in the world that won't freeze when they hear that sound out of nowhere.  It's an amazing attention getter - everybody knows what that sound means and they want no farking part of it
 
2021-12-07 3:28:13 PM  
Plot twist: the game designer is selling NFTs of the weapons but the gun manufacturer used a smart contract flaw to steal it and then sell if for Shiba Inu coin (They got confused by which dog coin to buy)
 
2021-12-08 2:21:58 PM  

PvtStash: Which world do you really want?
the world where we get one flower and one flower only, because that flower got the IP papers, so all other flowers had to fook off and not be flowers.
Or the world where, you do not personally get all that to yourself alone, but you as part of the we get ALL THIS.


private IP  control like this, stifles innovation, it does not at all promote it, not even just a little.


Trademarks have been around for millennia. Patents are 600 years old. Copyright is over 300 years. Do you really think that technology has not advanced in that time?
 
2021-12-08 2:24:25 PM  

PvtStash: Also the basic form of a gun is basically always the same, it's form is due to it's functionality.


Incog_Neeto: It has a trigger and a hole at the end where the bullets fly out, ITS A COPY!


Not sure why these were upvoted. They're not claiming they own "the basic form of a gun" or just a trigger and a hole. There's a bunch of elements in the design, including specifically elements that are non-functional, and even an element that is anti-functional - it works in a game world with fake physics, but would likely break in reality. Those aren't being copied because they're part of every gun "due to its functionality".
 
2021-12-08 6:00:04 PM  

lifeslammer: I think the real irony of this is that pump action shotguns are just a video game trope at this point (and only as a power balance, like how SMGs "magically" hurt less than a same caliber pistol). Tech has developed enough that automatic loading shotguns are where they will be in the future.

Though I suppose that pump action will always be the rage in Alabama


I heard if you use a sock while you're pumping your action it can be considered your sister, in Alabama.  Or something like that.  It makes as much sense as Lars.  So I'm fine with that.
 
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