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(The Ringer)   The Nets take crappy shots so analytics don't matter, writes recently promoted-from-Reddit observer who didn't look at their roster   (theringer.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, Houston Rockets, Percentage point, best shot profiles, Orlando Magic, The A-Team, NBA All-Rookie Team, high-value shots, average shot quality ranks  
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253 clicks; posted to Sports » on 07 Dec 2021 at 1:34 PM (6 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-12-07 12:26:09 PM  
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2021-12-07 2:05:50 PM  
Team stats need to be normalized against individual capabilities.  It doesn't matter if you take the most high percentage shots as a team if individually you all suck at making those shots.  Conversely, if your team has a bunch of extremely talented shooters, they're going to perform well even if they take crappy shots.
 
2021-12-07 2:50:32 PM  

bhcompy: Team stats need to be normalized against individual capabilities.  It doesn't matter if you take the most high percentage shots as a team if individually you all suck at making those shots.  Conversely, if your team has a bunch of extremely talented shooters, they're going to perform well even if they take crappy shots.


tldr make the shots you take

/outliers gonna outlie
 
2021-12-07 4:32:53 PM  
The Nets have better players than the Rockets, I can't believe a whole article was needed for that.
 
2021-12-07 6:25:52 PM  
I think we've already started seeing the trend toward "big ball," but it somehow seems to be escaping everyone's notice. The Lakers and Bucks won titles over the past two years by having a couple skilled players and being significantly larger than their opponents at almost every position. The Cavaliers this season have embraced the large frontcourt model and have been kicking the crap out of everyone when the big guys have been 100% healthy, without having an overabundance of highly-skilled shot-makers (no offense to SexLand or Ricky Rubio). It'll be interesting to see if other teams adopt this model, or if it holds up against top quality small-ball lineups that rely on the 3s and layups model.
 
2021-12-07 7:36:10 PM  

bhcompy: Team stats need to be normalized against individual capabilities.  It doesn't matter if you take the most high percentage shots as a team if individually you all suck at making those shots.  Conversely, if your team has a bunch of extremely talented shooters, they're going to perform well even if they take crappy shots.


Durant is easily the deadliest midrange shooter (clutch or otherwise) in the league. Which makes the Nets a horrible example. They have his damb picture at the top of the article. Wtf?

Another great midrange shooter will be playing for the Warriors soon.
 
2021-12-07 11:57:24 PM  

Herman Borrach: I think we've already started seeing the trend toward "big ball," but it somehow seems to be escaping everyone's notice.


gotta pair right here, notice that

/i'll be here all week, folks
 
2021-12-08 9:32:01 AM  
I believe point of article was that "analytics" don't work anymore because everyone is doing "analytics".

Less talented nuskool team = more talented oldskool team
Less talented nuskool team < more talented nuskool team
 
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