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2021-12-07 11:09:30 AM  
Jonah

Stopped reading right there.
 
2021-12-07 11:18:16 AM  
Sweet!
 
2021-12-07 11:19:46 AM  

NuclearPenguins: Jonah

Stopped reading right there.


Jonah's fine.  Plus, he's only doing half the episodes.  I'm looking forward to seeing Emily finally doing some.  Plus, we get Emily, Jonah, and Joel for a movie at the same time.  The selection of movies for the new season looks excellent, too.
 
2021-12-07 11:24:19 AM  
I gave Jonah and the new group a chance when they first premiered the new stuff on Netflix. It definitely took them a few episodes to hit their stride. The first few they did were far too rapid fire and they just didn't let the movie have a chance to unfold.  They definitely got better. Land That Time Forgot and Cry Wilderness have become two of my favorites from all of MST. I'm very glad they're coming back.

/really love Atlantic Rim as well
//BABOOM!
 
2021-12-07 11:27:30 AM  

Richard Hertz: I gave Jonah and the new group a chance when they first premiered the new stuff on Netflix. It definitely took them a few episodes to hit their stride. The first few they did were far too rapid fire and they just didn't let the movie have a chance to unfold.  They definitely got better. Land That Time Forgot and Cry Wilderness have become two of my favorites from all of MST. I'm very glad they're coming back.

/really love Atlantic Rim as well
//BABOOM!


WILDERNESS!
 
2021-12-07 11:28:52 AM  
One thing I've learned from the MST3K kickstarter saga is that a 550,000 of other people's money buys you a lot less production value than a few thousand dollars of your own money.

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2021-12-07 11:32:52 AM  
MST3K Jonah's Kaiju Rap (Every Country has a Monster) 1080p
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2021-12-07 11:36:39 AM  

Michael J Faux: One thing I've learned from the MST3K kickstarter saga is that a 550,000 of other people's money buys you a lot less production value than a few thousand dollars of your own money.

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I think the movies have gotten more expensive to license since they're doing fewer public domain films and the people that own the rights are more particular than before they were aware of what MST was.  Also, production is now taking place in two separate studio locations, and I'm sure the current cast and production staff (even though it's non-union) is costing a lot more than the old show managed to get by with.
 
2021-12-07 11:40:30 AM  

Richard Hertz: I gave Jonah and the new group a chance when they first premiered the new stuff on Netflix. It definitely took them a few episodes to hit their stride. The first few they did were far too rapid fire and they just didn't let the movie have a chance to unfold.  They definitely got better. Land That Time Forgot and Cry Wilderness have become two of my favorites from all of MST. I'm very glad they're coming back.

/really love Atlantic Rim as well
//BABOOM!


By season 12 they'd figured out how to enunciate.

/me giving them shiat for that is rank hypocrisy, but they're getting paid for it and I'm not
 
2021-12-07 11:53:29 AM  

Richard Hertz: I gave Jonah and the new group a chance when they first premiered the new stuff on Netflix. It definitely took them a few episodes to hit their stride. The first few they did were far too rapid fire and they just didn't let the movie have a chance to unfold.  They definitely got better. Land That Time Forgot and Cry Wilderness have become two of my favorites from all of MST. I'm very glad they're coming back.

/really love Atlantic Rim as well
//BABOOM!


That scene where [generic looking white bro] was telling [generic looking black bro] about fighting one of the monsters reminded me of 12 year olds talking about a video game they just played.

"And I was all like, BYAAAAH! and the giant lizard was all RARRRGH! then I went BLOOSH with my fire rockets and the lizard was all like SCREEEEEEEE!!! then I suplexed it!!"
 
2021-12-07 12:02:13 PM  

NeoCortex42: Michael J Faux: One thing I've learned from the MST3K kickstarter saga is that a 550,000 of other people's money buys you a lot less production value than a few thousand dollars of your own money.

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I think the movies have gotten more expensive to license since they're doing fewer public domain films and the people that own the rights are more particular than before they were aware of what MST was.  Also, production is now taking place in two separate studio locations, and I'm sure the current cast and production staff (even though it's non-union) is costing a lot more than the old show managed to get by with.


That is all true, but 550,000 is strictly the pre-production cost for sets/bots,etc according to their own breakdown. The episodes themselves cost about 750,000 per episode (which is in itself pretty ridiculous). The original series cost less than 75,000 per episode, adjusted for inflation. My point being.... I love MST3K, and defended the last couple seasons, but there are clearly a whole lot of dollars coming out of that kickstarter cookie jar that don't end up on screen.
 
2021-12-07 12:17:31 PM  

Michael J Faux: NeoCortex42: Michael J Faux: One thing I've learned from the MST3K kickstarter saga is that a 550,000 of other people's money buys you a lot less production value than a few thousand dollars of your own money.

[Fark user image 456x258]

[Fark user image 596x338]

I think the movies have gotten more expensive to license since they're doing fewer public domain films and the people that own the rights are more particular than before they were aware of what MST was.  Also, production is now taking place in two separate studio locations, and I'm sure the current cast and production staff (even though it's non-union) is costing a lot more than the old show managed to get by with.

That is all true, but 550,000 is strictly the pre-production cost for sets/bots,etc according to their own breakdown. The episodes themselves cost about 750,000 per episode (which is in itself pretty ridiculous). The original series cost less than 75,000 per episode, adjusted for inflation. My point being.... I love MST3K, and defended the last couple seasons, but there are clearly a whole lot of dollars coming out of that kickstarter cookie jar that don't end up on screen.


There's probably a bit of that. Although I think it's tough to do a direct comparison to the cost of the old episodes. Back then, each person on set was probably doing at least three different jobs in the production. Not to mention, the writing room seems pretty massive now compared to what they worked with back in the day. I personally feel like the show feels like there's too many writers all trying to throw jokes at the screen, but that's a whole different debate.

I do also wonder about the kickstarter money Rifftrax raises for Live shows. If the shows do as well as they seem to, where is all that ticket money going since everything was already paid for from crowdfunding?  I keep giving because the rewards are more than worth what I put in, though.
 
2021-12-07 12:32:26 PM  

NeoCortex42: Michael J Faux: NeoCortex42: Michael J Faux: One thing I've learned from the MST3K kickstarter saga is that a 550,000 of other people's money buys you a lot less production value than a few thousand dollars of your own money.

[Fark user image 456x258]

[Fark user image 596x338]

I think the movies have gotten more expensive to license since they're doing fewer public domain films and the people that own the rights are more particular than before they were aware of what MST was.  Also, production is now taking place in two separate studio locations, and I'm sure the current cast and production staff (even though it's non-union) is costing a lot more than the old show managed to get by with.

That is all true, but 550,000 is strictly the pre-production cost for sets/bots,etc according to their own breakdown. The episodes themselves cost about 750,000 per episode (which is in itself pretty ridiculous). The original series cost less than 75,000 per episode, adjusted for inflation. My point being.... I love MST3K, and defended the last couple seasons, but there are clearly a whole lot of dollars coming out of that kickstarter cookie jar that don't end up on screen.

There's probably a bit of that. Although I think it's tough to do a direct comparison to the cost of the old episodes. Back then, each person on set was probably doing at least three different jobs in the production. Not to mention, the writing room seems pretty massive now compared to what they worked with back in the day. I personally feel like the show feels like there's too many writers all trying to throw jokes at the screen, but that's a whole different debate.

I do also wonder about the kickstarter money Rifftrax raises for Live shows. If the shows do as well as they seem to, where is all that ticket money going since everything was already paid for from crowdfunding?  I keep giving because the rewards are more than worth what I put in, though.


I agree with all of this. I love Rifftrax as well (and actually think they've been more consistently funny than MST3K over the years), but yeah, asking for money for the possibility of buying a ticket later feels really scammy to me. The closest I can come to justifying it is looking at it as selling merch BEFORE a show instead of AT a show.
 
2021-12-07 12:40:41 PM  
...and I've updated my MST3K episode guide site with all the episodes they will be doing for Season 13, for those that may be interested.

http://www.drnostromo.com/movies/mst3kS13.html
 
2021-12-07 12:49:41 PM  
Did they slow the jokes per minute down? Or are they just trying to talk over the entire movie because they have no sense of timing, pacing, and lost all understanding of what a "riff" is.
 
2021-12-07 12:50:57 PM  

Night Train to Wakanda: Did they slow the jokes per minute down? Or are they just trying to talk over the entire movie because they have no sense of timing, pacing, and lost all understanding of what a "riff" is.


That improved after the first few Netflix episodes. It's still well above the riff rate of the classic episodes though.
 
2021-12-07 12:52:45 PM  

NuclearPenguins: Jonah

Stopped reading right there.


I agree there's only one host I'd prefer but this slate of movies looks really good.
 
2021-12-07 12:55:27 PM  

NeoCortex42: Night Train to Wakanda: Did they slow the jokes per minute down? Or are they just trying to talk over the entire movie because they have no sense of timing, pacing, and lost all understanding of what a "riff" is.

That improved after the first few Netflix episodes. It's still well above the riff rate of the classic episodes though.


As long as the riffing doesn't sound like the guitar noodling on Roller Gator it's gotta be an improvement.
 
2021-12-07 1:00:39 PM  

Night Train to Wakanda: NeoCortex42: Night Train to Wakanda: Did they slow the jokes per minute down? Or are they just trying to talk over the entire movie because they have no sense of timing, pacing, and lost all understanding of what a "riff" is.

That improved after the first few Netflix episodes. It's still well above the riff rate of the classic episodes though.

As long as the riffing doesn't sound like the guitar noodling on Roller Gator it's gotta be an improvement.


I just saw Roller Gator for the first time a couple weeks ago. Just...wow. I guess Joe Estevez really would take any gig offered to him.
 
2021-12-07 1:03:58 PM  
They're also doing:

- a 3D movie (with 3D glasses and everything)
- a Halloween-themed episode
- a Christmas-themed episode
 
2021-12-07 1:04:16 PM  

Great_Milenko: NuclearPenguins: Jonah

Stopped reading right there.

I agree there's only one host I'd prefer but this slate of movies looks really good.


That's my problem with the new stuff. The movies have been super solid choices for riffing on, but the overabundance of writers and the too-fast delivery to squeeze in the maximum amount of jokes just didn't do it for me.
 
2021-12-07 1:31:59 PM  

sniderman: They're also doing:

- a 3D movie (with 3D glasses and everything)
- a Halloween-themed episode
- a Christmas-themed episode


I considered getting a pair of 3D glasses from the Kickstarter, but the prices they charge for even cheap rewards is ridiculous. Rifftrax tends to be a bit more reasonable with what you get out of what you pay.
 
2021-12-07 1:51:26 PM  

Dr Nostromo: ...and I've updated my MST3K episode guide site with all the episodes they will be doing for Season 13, for those that may be interested.

http://www.drnostromo.com/movies/mst3kS13.html


You need to keep that website up just to show the kids today what the Internet looked like in the early days.  If you can get it to load one line at a time, even better.
 
2021-12-07 2:49:56 PM  

Richard Hertz: I gave Jonah and the new group a chance when they first premiered the new stuff on Netflix. It definitely took them a few episodes to hit their stride. The first few they did were far too rapid fire and they just didn't let the movie have a chance to unfold.  They definitely got better. Land That Time Forgot and Cry Wilderness have become two of my favorites from all of MST. I'm very glad they're coming back.

/really love Atlantic Rim as well
//BABOOM!


I have a soft spot for Carnival Magic. That movie is batshiat.

Mac and Me is also fun.
 
2021-12-07 2:53:31 PM  

Michael J Faux: One thing I've learned from the MST3K kickstarter saga is that a 550,000 of other people's money buys you a lot less production value than a few thousand dollars of your own money.

[Fark user image image 456x258]

[Fark user image image 596x338]


That's obviously due to Bidenflation traveling back in time to 2017.
 
2021-12-07 3:40:59 PM  

Bondith: Dr Nostromo: ...and I've updated my MST3K episode guide site with all the episodes they will be doing for Season 13, for those that may be interested.

http://www.drnostromo.com/movies/mst3kS13.html

You need to keep that website up just to show the kids today what the Internet looked like in the early days.  If you can get it to load one line at a time, even better.


You're right, it is a throwback. It's a site that features no ads, no banners, no popups, no redirects, no cookies, no collection of visitor information and doesn't require a PhD in web browsing to navigate.

I do this for free, as a hobby, for fun. In fact, I use a text editor ...I don't use web page software of any kind. Sorry if it doesn't measure to some people's expectations. Call me old fashion.
 
2021-12-07 5:36:27 PM  

Dr Nostromo: Bondith: Dr Nostromo: ...and I've updated my MST3K episode guide site with all the episodes they will be doing for Season 13, for those that may be interested.

http://www.drnostromo.com/movies/mst3kS13.html

You need to keep that website up just to show the kids today what the Internet looked like in the early days.  If you can get it to load one line at a time, even better.

You're right, it is a throwback. It's a site that features no ads, no banners, no popups, no redirects, no cookies, no collection of visitor information and doesn't require a PhD in web browsing to navigate.

I do this for free, as a hobby, for fun. In fact, I use a text editor ...I don't use web page software of any kind. Sorry if it doesn't measure to some people's expectations. Call me old fashion.


I was admiring its majesty, not shiatting on it.  Granted, around here it's hard to tell.  Either way, my apologies.  I tried to code a webpage back in the 90s and it sucked donkey balls.
 
2021-12-07 5:43:55 PM  

Dr Nostromo: Bondith: Dr Nostromo: ...and I've updated my MST3K episode guide site with all the episodes they will be doing for Season 13, for those that may be interested.

http://www.drnostromo.com/movies/mst3kS13.html

You need to keep that website up just to show the kids today what the Internet looked like in the early days.  If you can get it to load one line at a time, even better.

You're right, it is a throwback. It's a site that features no ads, no banners, no popups, no redirects, no cookies, no collection of visitor information and doesn't require a PhD in web browsing to navigate.

I do this for free, as a hobby, for fun. In fact, I use a text editor ...I don't use web page software of any kind. Sorry if it doesn't measure to some people's expectations. Call me old fashion.


I really like it. Thank you.

I just lost a couple of hours there...
 
2021-12-07 7:36:18 PM  

Bondith: Dr Nostromo: Bondith: Dr Nostromo: ...and I've updated my MST3K episode guide site with all the episodes they will be doing for Season 13, for those that may be interested.

http://www.drnostromo.com/movies/mst3kS13.html

You need to keep that website up just to show the kids today what the Internet looked like in the early days.  If you can get it to load one line at a time, even better.

You're right, it is a throwback. It's a site that features no ads, no banners, no popups, no redirects, no cookies, no collection of visitor information and doesn't require a PhD in web browsing to navigate.

I do this for free, as a hobby, for fun. In fact, I use a text editor ...I don't use web page software of any kind. Sorry if it doesn't measure to some people's expectations. Call me old fashion.

I was admiring its majesty, not shiatting on it.  Granted, around here it's hard to tell.  Either way, my apologies.  I tried to code a webpage back in the 90s and it sucked donkey balls.


Well, thank you. I appreciate that and sorry I misread your intent. I guess being told my site sucks so many times over the past couple decades has made me a bit defensive.
 
2021-12-07 7:50:20 PM  

NeoCortex42: Night Train to Wakanda: NeoCortex42: Night Train to Wakanda: Did they slow the jokes per minute down? Or are they just trying to talk over the entire movie because they have no sense of timing, pacing, and lost all understanding of what a "riff" is.

That improved after the first few Netflix episodes. It's still well above the riff rate of the classic episodes though.

As long as the riffing doesn't sound like the guitar noodling on Roller Gator it's gotta be an improvement.

I just saw Roller Gator for the first time a couple weeks ago. Just...wow. I guess Joe Estevez really would take any gig offered to him.


The lead was toothsome.

Not the puppet.

And it was the best Joe Estevez performance since he was Martins stand in filming Apocalypse: now.
 
2021-12-07 8:00:42 PM  

Dr Nostromo: Bondith: Dr Nostromo: Bondith: Dr Nostromo: ...and I've updated my MST3K episode guide site with all the episodes they will be doing for Season 13, for those that may be interested.

http://www.drnostromo.com/movies/mst3kS13.html

You need to keep that website up just to show the kids today what the Internet looked like in the early days.  If you can get it to load one line at a time, even better.

You're right, it is a throwback. It's a site that features no ads, no banners, no popups, no redirects, no cookies, no collection of visitor information and doesn't require a PhD in web browsing to navigate.

I do this for free, as a hobby, for fun. In fact, I use a text editor ...I don't use web page software of any kind. Sorry if it doesn't measure to some people's expectations. Call me old fashion.

I was admiring its majesty, not shiatting on it.  Granted, around here it's hard to tell.  Either way, my apologies.  I tried to code a webpage back in the 90s and it sucked donkey balls.

Well, thank you. I appreciate that and sorry I misread your intent. I guess being told my site sucks so many times over the past couple decades has made me a bit defensive.


You're doing the lords work.
 
2021-12-07 8:09:00 PM  
I really wish they would get around to publishing a revised and updated Amazing Colossal Episode Guide.  All of the Sci-Fi episodes got entries on the old website already written.  Just put them in a book I can buy, already.
 
2021-12-07 8:11:32 PM  

Dr Nostromo: I do this for free, as a hobby, for fun. In fact, I use a text editor ...I don't use web page software of any kind. Sorry if it doesn't measure to some people's expectations. Call me old fashion.


Doc, it's GREAT.
Thanks for all the fun and love you clearly have and put into it.


Night Train to Wakanda: You're doing the lords work.

this too
 
2021-12-07 8:11:41 PM  

Dr Nostromo: Bondith: Dr Nostromo: Bondith: Dr Nostromo: ...and I've updated my MST3K episode guide site with all the episodes they will be doing for Season 13, for those that may be interested.

http://www.drnostromo.com/movies/mst3kS13.html

You need to keep that website up just to show the kids today what the Internet looked like in the early days.  If you can get it to load one line at a time, even better.

You're right, it is a throwback. It's a site that features no ads, no banners, no popups, no redirects, no cookies, no collection of visitor information and doesn't require a PhD in web browsing to navigate.

I do this for free, as a hobby, for fun. In fact, I use a text editor ...I don't use web page software of any kind. Sorry if it doesn't measure to some people's expectations. Call me old fashion.

I was admiring its majesty, not shiatting on it.  Granted, around here it's hard to tell.  Either way, my apologies.  I tried to code a webpage back in the 90s and it sucked donkey balls.

Well, thank you. I appreciate that and sorry I misread your intent. I guess being told my site sucks so many times over the past couple decades has made me a bit defensive.


No worries, it's understandable.  Those of use who remember those heady times need to stick together.
 
VYV
2021-12-07 9:38:56 PM  

elvisaintdead: Dr Nostromo: I do this for free, as a hobby, for fun. In fact, I use a text editor ...I don't use web page software of any kind. Sorry if it doesn't measure to some people's expectations. Call me old fashion.

Doc, it's GREAT.
Thanks for all the fun and love you clearly have and put into it.


Night Train to Wakanda: You're doing the lords work.
this too


All this.
Merry Christmas Doc
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2021-12-07 11:29:50 PM  
Uh, where can I watch this?
 
2021-12-08 4:36:23 AM  

Dr Nostromo: Bondith: Dr Nostromo: Bondith: Dr Nostromo: ...and I've updated my MST3K episode guide site with all the episodes they will be doing for Season 13, for those that may be interested.

http://www.drnostromo.com/movies/mst3kS13.html

You need to keep that website up just to show the kids today what the Internet looked like in the early days.  If you can get it to load one line at a time, even better.

You're right, it is a throwback. It's a site that features no ads, no banners, no popups, no redirects, no cookies, no collection of visitor information and doesn't require a PhD in web browsing to navigate.

I do this for free, as a hobby, for fun. In fact, I use a text editor ...I don't use web page software of any kind. Sorry if it doesn't measure to some people's expectations. Call me old fashion.

I was admiring its majesty, not shiatting on it.  Granted, around here it's hard to tell.  Either way, my apologies.  I tried to code a webpage back in the 90s and it sucked donkey balls.

Well, thank you. I appreciate that and sorry I misread your intent. I guess being told my site sucks so many times over the past couple decades has made me a bit defensive.


Just chiming in to say your site is awesome and as a fellow MST3K super-fan bookmarking it for future reference.
 
2021-12-08 5:41:40 AM  

neeNHA: Uh, where can I watch this?


Until March 4, 2022, no where.
 
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