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2021-12-07 8:16:47 AM  
Well, that's certainly a 38-minute video analysis of a 35-year-old television show that far more people never watched at all than ever misunderstood any joke from it.
 
2021-12-07 8:23:30 AM  
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/probably just having a rest between bars
//is that okay, mike?
 
2021-12-07 8:57:38 AM  
Max Headroom was a distillation of the 80s. All that crass commercialism, all that concern for surface and presentation, and a whole LOT of dark undercurrent that the folks only looking at the surface pretty missed. It was id unleashed, onto a little tiny box, and all the resentment and need just bubbling away.

It had to happen. Sort of like the Spitting Image puppets. It was a natural outgrowth and parody of the very real conflicts just under a surface that folks were polishing furiously. The 80s were the segue from the 70s to the 90s.  You had the establishment firmly in favor of the camp of happy authoritarian conformity, and you had punks being turned and domesticated. It was a bubbling stew of resentments and angers and bitter and all with a frothy whip on the top and a mall to serve it in, with bright lights and garish colors to make it pretty. Dystopian future? That was what pretty much everyone understood was the only thing that could come from continuing to do what we were doing. And damned if we aren't trying it all again.
 
2021-12-07 8:59:09 AM  
Is the joke that he's a mass-market product of the same entertainment industry that he pretended to parody?
 
2021-12-07 9:04:06 AM  
Which bled over into politics.

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2021-12-07 9:06:40 AM  
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2021-12-07 9:29:54 AM  
I doubt anyone who ever watched it, also misunderstood it.  Standard bait of clickyness.  Did not watch the video, but I'm guessing the conclusion is the most obvious thing that ever obvioused.
 
2021-12-07 9:47:14 AM  
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Sometimes the definition of "live and direct" and "aged well" and "20 minutes into the future" and "25 years into the future" gets a little fuzzy.
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2021-12-07 9:49:35 AM  
I farking HATE long-form video analyses by YouTube art critics who think they're (A) clever and, worse, (B) funny.

They're as bad as recipe bloggers who require you to scroll past ten paragraphs of "my husband and I first encountered this recipe on one of our many trips to Tuscany" bullshiat.

Get to the farking point.

/rant
 
2021-12-07 9:50:33 AM  
TLDR; Max Headroom was underappreciated, misunderstood, and failed to live up to it's full potential. Bring back Max Headroom!
 
2021-12-07 10:01:13 AM  
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We went from this:

To this:
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Excellent, excellent summation, and excellent video.

Max was something that we never really should have fallen in love with; as the video gets into, Max was an amalgam of everything that was/is wrong with media.

The problem for all of us is that for all of Max's emptiness, he was too intelligent. Too self-aware of the rot.

And so, we went way, way, waaaay past Max. We devolved. It's horrifying to see that most of America saw Max as too much work; why think when we could just feel?
 
2021-12-07 10:03:07 AM  
Twenty minutes into the future that critique will still be fifteen minutes too long.
 
2021-12-07 10:18:42 AM  

hubiestubert: Max Headroom was a distillation of the 80s. All that crass commercialism, all that concern for surface and presentation, and a whole LOT of dark undercurrent that the folks only looking at the surface pretty missed. It was id unleashed, onto a little tiny box, and all the resentment and need just bubbling away.

It had to happen. Sort of like the Spitting Image puppets. It was a natural outgrowth and parody of the very real conflicts just under a surface that folks were polishing furiously. The 80s were the segue from the 70s to the 90s.  You had the establishment firmly in favor of the camp of happy authoritarian conformity, and you had punks being turned and domesticated. It was a bubbling stew of resentments and angers and bitter and all with a frothy whip on the top and a mall to serve it in, with bright lights and garish colors to make it pretty. Dystopian future? That was what pretty much everyone understood was the only thing that could come from continuing to do what we were doing. And damned if we aren't trying it all again.


We aren't trying to do it all again, it never ended.  The 90's and early 2000's just covered it with a layer of distractions while the powers at be continued the march in that direction.  It may not be as gritty and dirty as 70's and 80's science fiction predicted, but it a lot of ways we are living in that Dystopian future and we are going farther down the rabbit hole every day.  For example, the media devices are not large and on building walls.  They are small and in our hands.  Plus they can track every move we make...etc.
 
2021-12-07 10:27:14 AM  
"You know what's really awful about Max Headroom? Jimmy Fallon helped normalize Trump's candidacy! And Letterman had sex with some of his female staff!"

If your real goal is to critique talk show hosts, maybe don't use Max Headroom as your clickbait subject header to springboard into that conversation. That's stooping to the same level of deceptive advertising that you're claiming to dislike.
 
2021-12-07 10:27:30 AM  

Gonzo317: hubiestubert: Max Headroom was a distillation of the 80s. All that crass commercialism, all that concern for surface and presentation, and a whole LOT of dark undercurrent that the folks only looking at the surface pretty missed. It was id unleashed, onto a little tiny box, and all the resentment and need just bubbling away.

It had to happen. Sort of like the Spitting Image puppets. It was a natural outgrowth and parody of the very real conflicts just under a surface that folks were polishing furiously. The 80s were the segue from the 70s to the 90s.  You had the establishment firmly in favor of the camp of happy authoritarian conformity, and you had punks being turned and domesticated. It was a bubbling stew of resentments and angers and bitter and all with a frothy whip on the top and a mall to serve it in, with bright lights and garish colors to make it pretty. Dystopian future? That was what pretty much everyone understood was the only thing that could come from continuing to do what we were doing. And damned if we aren't trying it all again.

We aren't trying to do it all again, it never ended.  The 90's and early 2000's just covered it with a layer of distractions while the powers at be continued the march in that direction.  It may not be as gritty and dirty as 70's and 80's science fiction predicted, but it a lot of ways we are living in that Dystopian future and we are going farther down the rabbit hole every day.  For example, the media devices are not large and on building walls.  They are small and in our hands.  Plus they can track every move we make...etc.


Orwell's shortfall was in not anticipating pop culture. We have been convinced to gladly pay for the latest surveillance gear...
 
2021-12-07 10:41:13 AM  

FlashHarry: I farking HATE long-form video analyses by YouTube art critics who think they're (A) clever and, worse, (B) funny.

They're as bad as recipe bloggers who require you to scroll past ten paragraphs of "my husband and I first encountered this recipe on one of our many trips to Tuscany" bullshiat.

Get to the farking point.

/rant


Agreed.

Or at least post a transcript I can go though in 3-4 minutes.

I'm a busy man; I have more Fark links to get to.
 
2021-12-07 10:52:52 AM  
Max Headroom was "The Network" for . . . network TV.
 
2021-12-07 11:34:07 AM  

redsquid: Orwell's shortfall was in not anticipating pop culture. We have been convinced to gladly pay for the latest surveillance gear...



"These distraction-oholics. These focus-ophobics. Old George Orwell got it backward. Big Brother isn't watching. He's singing and dancing. He's pulling rabbits out of a hat. Big Brother's holding your attention every moment you're awake. He's making sure you're always distracted. He's making sure you're fully absorbed... and this being fed, it's worse than being watched. With the world always filling you, no one has to worry about what's in your mind. With everyone's imagination atrophied, no one will ever be a threat to the world."
― Chuck Palahniuk, Lullaby
 
2021-12-07 11:54:20 AM  

MechaPyx: TLDR; Max Headroom was underappreciated, misunderstood, and failed to live up to it's full potential. Bring back Max Headroom!


I have been saying for a while now that we could really use a reboot of "20 Minutes Into The Future" right about now.
 
2021-12-07 12:12:30 PM  

ReverendLoki: MechaPyx: TLDR; Max Headroom was underappreciated, misunderstood, and failed to live up to it's full potential. Bring back Max Headroom!

I have been saying for a while now that we could really use a reboot of "20 Minutes Into The Future" right about now.


Difficulty: Max Headroom was such a unique product of both Matt Frewer and the 80s, there's no way to recapture the same vibe.

It's a case where a gender swap reboot could actually be a smart move. Embrace that the new Max Headroom is not the same character and has her own modern vibe, while keeping the glitches and visual style. Just throw in some pixelization when she glitches, and it'll be an all-too-familiar sight to anyone whose streaming service doesn't have the most reliable connection.
 
2021-12-07 12:14:24 PM  

ReverendLoki: MechaPyx: TLDR; Max Headroom was underappreciated, misunderstood, and failed to live up to it's full potential. Bring back Max Headroom!

I have been saying for a while now that we could really use a reboot of "20 Minutes Into The Future" right about now.


How about in a little bit?
 
2021-12-07 12:39:03 PM  
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I had a huge crush on Amanda Pays back then. Oh, and the show was good too
 
2021-12-07 12:51:15 PM  

Mega Steve: [Fark user image 723x443]

I had a huge crush on Amanda Pays back then. Oh, and the show was good too


I had a crush on her from the 1990 Flash TV series.  She still looked damn good in the WB Flash series when she had guest appearances.
 
2021-12-07 1:01:30 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Well, that's certainly a 38-minute video analysis of a 35-year-old television show that far more people never watched at all than ever misunderstood any joke from it.


I watched all episodes.

On VHS, and it's not 35 years ago either...

I guess you kinda get from that how the selection at our one video rental service was, in the small town where I lived as a kid. I think they had maybe 100 different, 20 of which was porn. Of the remainder it was Max Headroom and V for Vendetta, which I also watched.

/I liked Max Headroom, V for Vendetta was crap. But it was that, or Colt Severs dubbed in German.
 
2021-12-07 1:45:22 PM  
there in lies a real problem we've always had with us.

You knew it was satire.
unfortunately for the rest of us, not enough other people did.


You know, robo-cop, satire, that at the time was taken as just plain old on the level sci-fi action, and we didn't talk about the satire of it, for like a decade+ until we finally figured it out.
but the way social change and culture works, too late, it's just what we are for real now.
 
2021-12-07 1:50:11 PM  

PvtStash: there in lies a real problem we've always had with us.

You knew it was satire.
unfortunately for the rest of us, not enough other people did.


You know, robo-cop, satire, that at the time was taken as just plain old on the level sci-fi action, and we didn't talk about the satire of it, for like a decade+ until we finally figured it out.
but the way social change and culture works, too late, it's just what we are for real now.


Uh, RoboCop was blatant satire, and everyone remarked on it at the time. The newsfeed and commercials slapped you so hard in the face with their sardonic commentary it left bruises. Verhoeven is many things as a director, but "subtle" has never been one of them.
 
2021-12-07 2:04:03 PM  
I used to work in TV, sometimes in news field production. We laughed back then at how Ed Carter could run around with a heavy-ass betacam while talking wirelessly to a  GIC and relaying "live and direct" to a private satellite.

About six years ago, we got a little gizmo at work (based on my research and purchase proposals) that attached between the camera and its battery pack, allowing live streaming to the internet in HD, from anywhere that had cell service. Six modems divided up the bandwidth to get the signal out, then a service in the cloud re-assembled the multiple streams into one, and that got re-sent up the Ku band satellite to air live and direct to TV stations, statewide. A talkback/intercom feature also had the GIC at the home office in my ear to advise.

I had become Edison Carter. I even said, "live and direct". Nobody got my joke because I am old.
 
2021-12-07 2:32:23 PM  

EdgeRunner: PvtStash: there in lies a real problem we've always had with us.

You knew it was satire.
unfortunately for the rest of us, not enough other people did.


You know, robo-cop, satire, that at the time was taken as just plain old on the level sci-fi action, and we didn't talk about the satire of it, for like a decade+ until we finally figured it out.
but the way social change and culture works, too late, it's just what we are for real now.

Uh, RoboCop was blatant satire, and everyone remarked on it at the time. The newsfeed and commercials slapped you so hard in the face with their sardonic commentary it left bruises. Verhoeven is many things as a director, but "subtle" has never been one of them.



oh you mean you were an adult when that came out? I mean who else is watching the 5 o clock news in yesteryear, not the kids to be sure.

So i will revise my original statement then. the only people who were in on the joke of robo cop at the time, were the adults of the time. Too bad it was the kids of the time that were not in it that became the adults next, that weren't.

And from there to now, that the joker should be cast as a sympathetic character by the next generation of authors, sure does seem to track to that easily enough.
 
2021-12-07 2:43:34 PM  

PvtStash: EdgeRunner: PvtStash: there in lies a real problem we've always had with us.

You knew it was satire.
unfortunately for the rest of us, not enough other people did.


You know, robo-cop, satire, that at the time was taken as just plain old on the level sci-fi action, and we didn't talk about the satire of it, for like a decade+ until we finally figured it out.
but the way social change and culture works, too late, it's just what we are for real now.

Uh, RoboCop was blatant satire, and everyone remarked on it at the time. The newsfeed and commercials slapped you so hard in the face with their sardonic commentary it left bruises. Verhoeven is many things as a director, but "subtle" has never been one of them.


oh you mean you were an adult when that came out? I mean who else is watching the 5 o clock news in yesteryear, not the kids to be sure.

So i will revise my original statement then. the only people who were in on the joke of robo cop at the time, were the adults of the time. Too bad it was the kids of the time that were not in it that became the adults next, that weren't.

And from there to now, that the joker should be cast as a sympathetic character by the next generation of authors, sure does seem to track to that easily enough.


In theory, only adults should have seen it at the time of release.  R rated at time.    Sure it was edited for TV eventually.

But around a year after release we had a Robocop arcade game with home ports to soon follow and a cartoon.  So yeah I think it's safe to say there were adults that either didn't get the satire or did and merely didn't care.
 
2021-12-07 2:55:14 PM  
All of you getting angry about anything having to do with any of this, I have a question:

Actually, no I don't. I can't ask anything that will give a satisfying answer.

It was a character on a TV show based on a commercial campaign.
 
2021-12-07 4:01:01 PM  

nicoffeine: All of you getting angry about anything having to do with any of this, I have a question:

Actually, no I don't. I can't ask anything that will give a satisfying answer.

It was a character on a TV show based on a commercial campaign.


*adjusts glasses*
Akshually....

OK, so he was originally created for a British music video program, that showed his backstory "20 Minutes Into The Future" in clips in between videos.  Max was also the veejay for the show.

After that it expanded. The following seasons of the British show expanded into interviews and such, and also aired in the US on Cinemax.  A US series based on "20 Minutes..." was made.  And, of course, the commercialization....

But damn, if that originally story didn't kick ass.
 
2021-12-07 4:19:15 PM  
We are all Max Headroom
 
2021-12-07 4:32:55 PM  
It's been a long, long time since I saw those shows but what I remember is the UK version was much better. The US version was watered down so much that it was typical of what happens when Americans get ahold of material from outside the US. There was a kind of irony to it. Since US television is commercial, tv producers here have to make the characters audience friendly, which subverts the subversion of Max Headroom.
 
2021-12-07 4:44:51 PM  

Ker_Thwap: I doubt anyone who ever watched it, also misunderstood it.  Standard bait of clickyness.  Did not watch the video, but I'm guessing the conclusion is the most obvious thing that ever obvioused.


Pretty much.
 
2021-12-07 4:52:46 PM  

Myk-House of El: PvtStash: EdgeRunner: PvtStash: there in lies a real problem we've always had with us.

You knew it was satire.
unfortunately for the rest of us, not enough other people did.


You know, robo-cop, satire, that at the time was taken as just plain old on the level sci-fi action, and we didn't talk about the satire of it, for like a decade+ until we finally figured it out.
but the way social change and culture works, too late, it's just what we are for real now.

Uh, RoboCop was blatant satire, and everyone remarked on it at the time. The newsfeed and commercials slapped you so hard in the face with their sardonic commentary it left bruises. Verhoeven is many things as a director, but "subtle" has never been one of them.


oh you mean you were an adult when that came out? I mean who else is watching the 5 o clock news in yesteryear, not the kids to be sure.

So i will revise my original statement then. the only people who were in on the joke of robo cop at the time, were the adults of the time. Too bad it was the kids of the time that were not in it that became the adults next, that weren't.

And from there to now, that the joker should be cast as a sympathetic character by the next generation of authors, sure does seem to track to that easily enough.

In theory, only adults should have seen it at the time of release.  R rated at time.    Sure it was edited for TV eventually.

But around a year after release we had a Robocop arcade game with home ports to soon follow and a cartoon.  So yeah I think it's safe to say there were adults that either didn't get the satire or did and merely didn't care.


The correct answer is "merely didn't care". No, I wasn't an adult when RoboCop came out, but I also wasn't unable to recognize the obvious humor of the over-the-top commercials and newsflashes throughout the movie. They were obvious social commentary jokes that you were meant to laugh at. About the subtlest it got was the "I'd buy that for a dollar!" guy, who was spoofing the inane sitcoms of the day by reducing them down to nothing but catchphrases and bikini-clad hotties. (Which wasn't that big a change, really.)

And yes, there was a RoboCop cartoon and a toyline, because the 80s brought the advent of cable TV, letting kids easily watch all kinds of movies that they couldn't have officially seen at a theater without a parent. But even the RoboCop cartoon had an element of spoofiness to it. You'd have to have been really thick not to have been in on the joke, especially when they did such a poor job ramping up the gags in RoboCop 2. Nothing makes comedy more obvious than when someone fails at it while repeatedly nudging you in the ribs.
 
2021-12-07 6:04:46 PM  
I watched the series, but then my head exploded.
 
2021-12-07 7:39:00 PM  

EdgeRunner: Myk-House of El: PvtStash: EdgeRunner: PvtStash: there in lies a real problem we've always had with us.

You knew it was satire.
unfortunately for the rest of us, not enough other people did.


You know, robo-cop, satire, that at the time was taken as just plain old on the level sci-fi action, and we didn't talk about the satire of it, for like a decade+ until we finally figured it out.
but the way social change and culture works, too late, it's just what we are for real now.

Uh, RoboCop was blatant satire, and everyone remarked on it at the time. The newsfeed and commercials slapped you so hard in the face with their sardonic commentary it left bruises. Verhoeven is many things as a director, but "subtle" has never been one of them.


oh you mean you were an adult when that came out? I mean who else is watching the 5 o clock news in yesteryear, not the kids to be sure.

So i will revise my original statement then. the only people who were in on the joke of robo cop at the time, were the adults of the time. Too bad it was the kids of the time that were not in it that became the adults next, that weren't.

And from there to now, that the joker should be cast as a sympathetic character by the next generation of authors, sure does seem to track to that easily enough.

In theory, only adults should have seen it at the time of release.  R rated at time.    Sure it was edited for TV eventually.

But around a year after release we had a Robocop arcade game with home ports to soon follow and a cartoon.  So yeah I think it's safe to say there were adults that either didn't get the satire or did and merely didn't care.

The correct answer is "merely didn't care". No, I wasn't an adult when RoboCop came out, but I also wasn't unable to recognize the obvious humor of the over-the-top commercials and newsflashes throughout the movie. They were obvious social commentary jokes that you were meant to laugh at. About the subtlest it got was the "I'd buy that for a dollar!" guy, who ...


*Sigh*, the TV Series never gets no respect.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108909/
 
2021-12-07 8:27:46 PM  
Any Pie Left:

I had become Edison Carter. I even said, "live and direct". Nobody got my joke because I am old.

It was my favorite show. I still love it, and yes, I got that it was satire, even at that age. I was in high school looking to go in to film/tv production, and I also thought it was funny the camera was never hooked up to a huge tape deck. 

Looking back, it's amazing how much that little show's predictions came true, or close to true. The internet, Google maps, live GPS tracking, an overwhelming number of entertainment choices (Sure, there aren't hundreds of "networks", but with podcasing, and streaming, there's still a huge fight for viewership.), Live interaction with the audience, tracking how many viewers are watching, portable cameras able to live stream (sure, we can use phones, but the idea of uploading without an external satellite link was revolutionary.) 

One episode Theora was showing a kid (her name was "Mink".) where her name came from. Wikipedia before there was such a thing. The "recycle bin" on your desktop was in the show in the form of a "Purge Directory". All files are dumped in there so they can be reviewed before they're deleted permanently. - I even re-named my recycle bin "Purge Directory" 

They really could bring that show back, and here's the kicker.. the computers are powerful enough that they don't need to put anyone in makeup. They could create a digital copy, and with motion capture could be animated. Indeed, Snapchat has filters that will change your face and do basically the same thing. On your PHONE. 

We don't have blipverts yet, but we're getting close. Streaming services have 15 second spots and some even have 6 second ads. (So you can't skip them.) 

Everyone in that world is attached to their TVs the way people today are attached to their phones. A dystopian future where greedy corporations run the world. Credit Fraud is worse than murder. 

And you have to love Blank Reg. "Welcome to Big Time Television. All day and every day, making tomorrow seem like yesterday. Now remember when we said there was no future? Well, this is it. Right! Next up, more of the same."
 
2021-12-07 9:51:23 PM  
We are all living 20 minutes into the future.
 
2021-12-07 9:56:31 PM  

ParadoxDice: Everyone in that world is attached to their TVs the way people today are attached to their phones. A dystopian future where greedy corporations run the world. Credit Fraud is worse than murder. 

And you have to love Blank Reg. "Welcome to Big Time Television. All day an ...


I can't love this summation any harder. You're 100% bang on.
 
2021-12-07 11:32:27 PM  

ParadoxDice: Any Pie Left:

I had become Edison Carter. I even said, "live and direct". Nobody got my joke because I am old.

It was my favorite show. I still love it, and yes, I got that it was satire, even at that age. I was in high school looking to go in to film/tv production, and I also thought it was funny the camera was never hooked up to a huge tape deck. 

Looking back, it's amazing how much that little show's predictions came true, or close to true. The internet, Google maps, live GPS tracking, an overwhelming number of entertainment choices (Sure, there aren't hundreds of "networks", but with podcasing, and streaming, there's still a huge fight for viewership.), Live interaction with the audience, tracking how many viewers are watching, portable cameras able to live stream (sure, we can use phones, but the idea of uploading without an external satellite link was revolutionary.) 

One episode Theora was showing a kid (her name was "Mink".) where her name came from. Wikipedia before there was such a thing. The "recycle bin" on your desktop was in the show in the form of a "Purge Directory". All files are dumped in there so they can be reviewed before they're deleted permanently. - I even re-named my recycle bin "Purge Directory" 

They really could bring that show back, and here's the kicker.. the computers are powerful enough that they don't need to put anyone in makeup. They could create a digital copy, and with motion capture could be animated. Indeed, Snapchat has filters that will change your face and do basically the same thing. On your PHONE. 

We don't have blipverts yet, but we're getting close. Streaming services have 15 second spots and some even have 6 second ads. (So you can't skip them.) 

Everyone in that world is attached to their TVs the way people today are attached to their phones. A dystopian future where greedy corporations run the world. Credit Fraud is worse than murder. 

And you have to love Blank Reg. "Welcome to Big Time Television. All day and every day, making tomorrow seem like yesterday. Now remember when we said there was no future? Well, this is it. Right! Next up, more of the same."


They really could bring that show back, and it would be boring as fark because of exactly those reasons.  It wouldn't be a novelty.
 
2021-12-08 12:43:19 AM  
The interesting thing they mentioned is that Max was a live video feed, instead of a CG head moved by mocap. Which I guess makes sense, but my younger brain didn't see it that way.
I guess if you apply many many filters (glossy look, digital background, low framerates), you create a CG out of real life.

I liked the TV series. Matt created a great character. I'm surprised future iterations of a Max character did pop up in the later decades.
 
2021-12-08 1:03:49 AM  

PvtStash: there in lies a real problem we've always had with us.

You knew it was satire.
unfortunately for the rest of us, not enough other people did.


You know, robo-cop, satire, that at the time was taken as just plain old on the level sci-fi action, and we didn't talk about the satire of it, for like a decade+ until we finally figured it out.
but the way social change and culture works, too late, it's just what we are for real now.


Now we have Starship Troopers level of propaganda.
 
2021-12-08 4:49:52 AM  
I disagree. Max Headroom isn't a villain and shouldn't be. He's the ghost in the machine. An intelligence that absorbs, mixes and regurgitates mass media without understanding any of it. His obsession with golf is a dead giveaway. He's clearly physically incapable of playing it. He's not good, he's not evil, he's an element of chaos thrown into a carefully orchestrated public image.

Also the ABC show was brilliant. I wonder how the network went so long without noticing they were running a show that subverted everything else they did.
 
2021-12-08 12:56:07 PM  

Gordon Bennett: I disagree. Max Headroom isn't a villain and shouldn't be. He's the ghost in the machine. An intelligence that absorbs, mixes and regurgitates mass media without understanding any of it. His obsession with golf is a dead giveaway. He's clearly physically incapable of playing it. He's not good, he's not evil, he's an element of chaos thrown into a carefully orchestrated public image.

Also the ABC show was brilliant. I wonder how the network went so long without noticing they were running a show that subverted everything else they did.


Max was always a snarky anti-corporate critic, and he helps bring down the bad guys in several episodes. What the commentator missed is that Max was intended to be a soulless, programmable replacement for a troublesome reporter who kept asking all the wrong questions, but his creators almost immediately lose control of him. His origins are sinister, but the end result is an anarchistic Bugs Bunny-type who mocks the advertisers and money men he was supposed to serve, and he's ultimately on the side of good.
 
2021-12-08 5:42:18 PM  

EdgeRunner: ReverendLoki: MechaPyx: TLDR; Max Headroom was underappreciated, misunderstood, and failed to live up to it's full potential. Bring back Max Headroom!

I have been saying for a while now that we could really use a reboot of "20 Minutes Into The Future" right about now.

Difficulty: Max Headroom was such a unique product of both Matt Frewer and the 80s, there's no way to recapture the same vibe.

It's a case where a gender swap reboot could actually be a smart move. Embrace that the new Max Headroom is not the same character and has her own modern vibe, while keeping the glitches and visual style. Just throw in some pixelization when she glitches, and it'll be an all-too-familiar sight to anyone whose streaming service doesn't have the most reliable connection.


My immediate casting thought is that either Doug Jones or Bill Irwin could fit the role, but... damn, just looked them up, and they are 60 and 71 years old, respectively.  Still, bet they could pull it off.

I'd be fine with casting of whatever race or gender, though.  Especially if it could be used to open up more of a story.

Hmm... think Leslie Jones could play the serious role of investigative reporter Evelyn Carter?  Maybe, maybe not.

As long as the Blanks are a group of aging, tattooed Gen Xers.
 
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