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2021-12-06 11:07:52 PM  
It's a white thing, you wouldn't understand
 
2021-12-06 11:21:23 PM  
It's almost as if an ideology that fetishizes violence and glorifies selfishness has hijacked a decent portion of our society.
 
2021-12-06 11:44:02 PM  
In order to be right-wing, you have to be emotionally damaged.

Cruelty and sadism are all that they comprehend.
 
2021-12-06 11:58:10 PM  
Monsters begat monsters.

Was there a question here?
 
2021-12-06 11:58:12 PM  
I keep seeing a pattern of narcissistic, overbearing mothers and spiteful,  emotionally-absent fathers, raising a generation of suicide bombers because they apparently don't feel rich enough.
 
2021-12-07 12:02:40 AM  
Truth is there are evil players working to subvert America who have found a fertile field in the undereducated, propaganda-receptive minds of ignorant Americans, that seek to make us the worst that we can be.

They are winnng.
 
2021-12-07 12:32:39 AM  
Hey, Subby, I'm pretty sure Dads raise monsters, too. Even if his part was that he wasn't around at all.
 
2021-12-07 12:59:56 AM  

Miss5280: Hey, Subby, I'm pretty sure Dads raise monsters, too. Even if his part was that he wasn't around at all.


Reading a bit in here, but at least some of us estranged dads do what we can, even if from far away.
 
2021-12-07 1:32:26 AM  
These are sad, mentally ill people who all need a long stay in a rubber room.
 
2021-12-07 2:08:12 AM  
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2021-12-07 4:29:34 AM  
bragged about how she's not scared of Trump's "big personality and quick temper." Finally, she signed the letter as someone who is "sick of getting f*cked in the ass and would rather be grabbed by the pussy."

Lol you think Trump stops at grabbing your pussy? Oh look, a girl who lets me grab her by the pussy and doesn't care about my personality or temper. That's the kind of girl who I definitely cannot fark in the ass, without lube, while I'm grabbing her pussy.

That said it explains Trump's appeal to emotionally damaged women; they are so metaphorically used to getting unpleasurably farked in life that they seek someone who advertises a little "reacharound" for once, even if he never delivers on it.  Sorta sad, really.
 
2021-12-07 4:31:23 AM  
Because they're "sick of getting f*cked in the ass" perhaps?
 
2021-12-07 5:07:24 AM  
Lack of empathy.
 
2021-12-07 6:45:48 AM  
Because they are, themselves, monsters. The Grendel's mothers of the world.
 
2021-12-07 6:46:02 AM  
Shiatty parents raise shiatty kids.

Most right wingers are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. It puts a huge chip on their shoulder which turns into misanthropy pretty easily. Add opportunity (guns) poor examples in the home and it's a recipe for disaster.
 
2021-12-07 6:50:27 AM  
You know who knows a lot about raising healthy, well-adjusted children?

Childless people, surely.
 
2021-12-07 6:57:02 AM  
These sort of assholes have always been part of society.  Trump just has made them more visible.
 
2021-12-07 6:58:00 AM  
You answered your own question Subz.
 
2021-12-07 7:01:00 AM  
Welfare mothers make better lovers.
 
2021-12-07 7:01:03 AM  
Because they themselves are monsters?
 
2021-12-07 7:03:13 AM  
I blame their culture.  Why won't their leaders speak out about this?   The silence is deafening.  Sad!
 
2021-12-07 7:03:37 AM  
You expected well-adjusted contributors to the community?

Why do snakes only produce snakes?

A real mystery...
 
2021-12-07 7:03:49 AM  

HeartBurnKid: Because they are, themselves, monsters. The Grendel's mothers of the world.


Geat-like typing detected!

Grendel's Mother had coexisted peacefully for years before the coming of the Geats.
 
2021-12-07 7:04:05 AM  
It turns out that empathy IS actually a survival trait for social apes. When you beat empathy and compassion out of a kid, it sort of leaves them unprepared for actually dealing with other social apes, and leaves them no real guideposts for their behavior.
 
2021-12-07 7:04:51 AM  
In this case, I think the kid is mentally ill, but the ammo-sexual lifestyle of mom allowed that mental illness to result in a mass shooting.
 
2021-12-07 7:07:14 AM  

MrBallou: Truth is there are evil players working to subvert America who have found a fertile field in the undereducated, propaganda-receptive minds of ignorant Americans, that seek to make us the worst that we can be.

They are winnng.


This. And it is terrifying.
 
2021-12-07 7:07:27 AM  

Roastbeast Sammich: You know who knows a lot about raising healthy, well-adjusted children?

Childless people, surely.


The three mothers and sons in the article resulted in two murderers and a terrorist.

I don't have kids but I'm still willing to bet I could do a better job than them.
 
2021-12-07 7:07:43 AM  
What a silly question
 
2021-12-07 7:11:00 AM  
Words 3 and 4 there, subby.
 
2021-12-07 7:12:31 AM  
Conservative culture is acid. Conservative ideology is poison.
 
2021-12-07 7:12:36 AM  
On the other hand, the kids of wealthy, educated, liberal parents turn into irony-loving, sarcastic and ultimately ineffective internet shiatposters who are incapable of meaningfully resisting and addressing social rot.

You know, future Farkers.
 
2021-12-07 7:13:19 AM  

MrBallou: Truth is there are evil players working to subvert America who have found a fertile field in the undereducated, propaganda-receptive minds of ignorant Americans, that seek to make us the worst that we can be.


I've never seen this put more succinctly.
 
2021-12-07 7:15:53 AM  

Mad Scientist: These sort of assholes have always been part of society.  Trump just has made them more visible.


The internet connected them with one another, and then Trump and the GOP weaponized them against America.
 
2021-12-07 7:17:16 AM  
Well, her kid's future is secure now. (Unless it's another Trump judge presiding over the case.)
 
2021-12-07 7:18:38 AM  
Bunch of narcissist "I got mine" assholes generally raise kids to be the same. Hard to break that cycle if it is all you know growing up.

/Some kiddos do see the light though and that's awesome
 
2021-12-07 7:19:02 AM  
If liberals would teach their kids to (metaphorically and actually) punch Nazis, this would sort itself out.

I'm quite serious about this. The droll pond of irony and internet memes that liberal kids swims around in doesn't do a damn thing to change anything.

I'm not BSABing here, just saying we're not doing enough to equip our kids to deal with the monsters in their midst.
 
2021-12-07 7:22:35 AM  
FTFA: "It is important to recall that in October, one of the more noxious trolls in the House's GOP caucus, Rep. Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina, gave a speech aimed at the mothers of MAGA in which he encouraged the women to raise their sons to be "monsters." Cawthorn claimed that "[o]ur culture today is trying to completely de-masculate all of the young men," and argued that it's on mothers - who he called "the most vicious in our movement" - to counter this supposed emasculation by training their sons to be "monsters and lions." Predators, essentially.

That Cawthorn only addressed mothers is no mistake, of course. In MAGA-land, fathers who are present in their kids' lives are viewed as emasculated. And a lot of MAGA moms were hardly waiting for Cawthorn's instructions.
"

This makes a lot of sense. Basically the right wing's total insanity is the result of fascist Karens running amuck. The anger of right wing men and the "bro movement" seems to be a direct result of right wing husbands overcompensating after being emasculated by their wives and the little sociopaths their wives raise. But being emasculated is a condition of the right wing cult, because in the end they all cede their manhood to TFG.
 
2021-12-07 7:25:04 AM  

Miss5280: Hey, Subby, I'm pretty sure Dads raise monsters, too. Even if his part was that he wasn't around at all.


Except, in this particular ethos, Fathers don't involve themselves with their children. No diaper duty, no cooking or cleanings. They are the Man. The Mothers raise their boys to be Men. You've heard the wailing about how their poor boys will be 'falsely' accused of rape. They raise their boys to be bullies because that's the only way they know to keep their boys from being bullied.

It's a rather terrifying thing but there are women who have been sucked into believing that's the right way. If the Fathers have an input, it involves their belt. The whole of it is a pathology, a social poison, and sadly a self-perpetuating one.
 
2021-12-07 7:26:09 AM  
People are awful.
 
2021-12-07 7:26:16 AM  

giantmeteor: It's almost as if an ideology that fetishizes violence and glorifies selfishness has hijacked a decent portion of our society.


Does it still count as Stockholm Syndrome if you sympathized with your kidnappers before they grabbed you?
 
2021-12-07 7:34:07 AM  

wademh: Miss5280: Hey, Subby, I'm pretty sure Dads raise monsters, too. Even if his part was that he wasn't around at all.

Except, in this particular ethos, Fathers don't involve themselves with their children. No diaper duty, no cooking or cleanings. They are the Man. The Mothers raise their boys to be Men. You've heard the wailing about how their poor boys will be 'falsely' accused of rape. They raise their boys to be bullies because that's the only way they know to keep their boys from being bullied.

It's a rather terrifying thing but there are women who have been sucked into believing that's the right way. If the Fathers have an input, it involves their belt. The whole of it is a pathology, a social poison, and sadly a self-perpetuating one.


According to Facebook memes shared by the Real Americans in The Heartland that I went to high school with, "I WAS SPANKED AND IT TAUGHT ME TO SAY YES SIR AND NO MAAM SHARE IF YOU AGREE!"
 
2021-12-07 7:35:30 AM  
Because Echidna will only beget monsters.
 
2021-12-07 7:36:56 AM  

MrBallou: Miss5280: Hey, Subby, I'm pretty sure Dads raise monsters, too. Even if his part was that he wasn't around at all.

Reading a bit in here, but at least some of us estranged dads do what we can, even if from far away.


Are you raising a monster?

If you're doing the best you can then obviously you're not one of these awful parents that we're discussing.

Don't group yourself under some shiatty person's umbrella just because you have one thing in common with them. Take comfort in the fact that you're doing your best to not be like them.

I'm not trying to bite your head off, I promise.
 
2021-12-07 7:43:03 AM  

wademh: Miss5280: Hey, Subby, I'm pretty sure Dads raise monsters, too. Even if his part was that he wasn't around at all.

Except, in this particular ethos, Fathers don't involve themselves with their children. No diaper duty, no cooking or cleanings. They are the Man. The Mothers raise their boys to be Men. You've heard the wailing about how their poor boys will be 'falsely' accused of rape. They raise their boys to be bullies because that's the only way they know to keep their boys from being bullied.

It's a rather terrifying thing but there are women who have been sucked into believing that's the right way. If the Fathers have an input, it involves their belt. The whole of it is a pathology, a social poison, and sadly a self-perpetuating one.


The idea that anyone is still spanking or hitting their kids as a form of discipline is just so depressing.
 
2021-12-07 7:54:41 AM  
Be a dick, not an asshole.
"Dicks, pussies and assholes" speech - Team America
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2021-12-07 7:56:48 AM  
At first I was wondering if Salon was basing a whole article on two moms.
Then I started wondering what Adam Lanza's mom would have to say on the subject.
 
2021-12-07 8:04:40 AM  
I had forgotten about that Madison Cawthorn "raise them to be monsters" speech. What a piece of shiat.
 
2021-12-07 8:05:40 AM  

covalesj: In this case, I think the kid is mentally ill, but the ammo-sexual lifestyle of mom allowed that mental illness to result in a mass shooting.


I can't wait to hear the excuses and rationalizations that are waiting to be vomited up by the voices of the GOP that paint this kid as another right-wing hero.
 
2021-12-07 8:06:39 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: At first I was wondering if Salon was basing a whole article on two moms.
Then I started wondering what Adam Lanza's mom would have to say on the subject.


Adam Lanzas mother was a prepper nut. In the crazy crazy redneck state of CT.

I'm still trying to figure out how a semi wealthy woman in a very liberal area becomes a whacko prepper who buys guns for her insane child.

Sandy Hook is right down the road and this area of CT is pretty liberal
 
2021-12-07 8:09:05 AM  
Do you think a MAGA mother is trying to live vicariously through a daughter?

Go honey!  Be a VESSEL!!!
Make MORE men...FOR MEN

Put some vinegar and baking soda on that stovetop!  Buy healthy foods!  Thank him for hitting you!

SCRUB THAT TUB!
SCRUB THAT TUB!
SCRUB THAT TUB!
 
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