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2021-12-06 10:45:06 PM  
They are also pursuing charges against the school officials
 
2021-12-06 10:55:25 PM  

cretinbob: They are also pursuing charges against the school officials


*reads article*

Huh?
 
2021-12-06 11:02:24 PM  
Yup. Banning cell phones so students will just die quietly and not record the chaos or call for help or anything.

Typical school/cop way of "controlling the situation."

Are we back to locking the doors shut from the outside and waiting for the shooting to stop like they did in Columbine or Blacksburg?
 
2021-12-06 11:11:40 PM  

lindalouwho: cretinbob: They are also pursuing charges against the school officials

*reads article*

Huh?


Local news
They failed to report his behavior
 
2021-12-06 11:12:59 PM  
 
2021-12-07 3:44:36 AM  
Banning hoodies in Michigan during Winter seems wise.  Kids probably shouldn't wear long or puffy coats either.
 
2021-12-07 3:47:47 AM  
They probably should prosecute the administrators for sending him back to class.

That said, those is going to send school administrators into full derp mode for the rest of the year. After Columbine, a lot of schools banned trench coats.
 
2021-12-07 3:49:20 AM  
Well, you can't even talk about changing the rights of people with guns.

Better take away everyone else's rights instead.
 
2021-12-07 3:50:28 AM  

cretinbob: lindalouwho: cretinbob: They are also pursuing charges against the school officials

*reads article*

Huh?

Local news
They failed to report his behavior


Reported to whom, one wonders, and to what effect.

"There was absolutely evidence to suggest that there was an indication he might harm somebody and even kill somebody. We haven't ruled out charging anyone," McDonald said on CNN this morning.

Yeah, that's just playing to the crowd. "...suggest that there was an indication he might harm somebody..." means exactly squat in court, counselor, and you know it as well as I do. Unless he said he was searching for armor-piercing ammo so he could shoot through the door of his science lab and kill John Doe who sits next to him in chemistry, "a suggestion of an indication that he might harm somebody" is just you saying "everyone is mad so I'm saying shiat in the hopes everyone goes away."
 
2021-12-07 3:50:28 AM  
I'm having a flashback from 22 years ago, when the kid from drama class who wore a trench coat, wearing makeup from "The Crow", was ostracized after Columbine.

/He wound up being a functional adult, as far as I know.
 
2021-12-07 3:53:56 AM  

Mister Buttons: I'm having a flashback from 22 years ago, when the kid from drama class who wore a trench coat, wearing makeup from "The Crow", was ostracized after Columbine.

/He wound up being a functional adult, as far as I know.


Most of us did, yeah.
 
2021-12-07 3:54:01 AM  
Mister Buttons:

Now he's a furry
 
2021-12-07 3:58:32 AM  

AuralArgument: Mister Buttons:

Now he's a furry


That as well.
 
2021-12-07 3:59:13 AM  

cretinbob: lindalouwho: cretinbob: They are also pursuing charges against the school officials

*reads article*

Huh?

Local news
They failed to report his behavior


I'm sure that won't result in sub-zero tolerance policies and harshly punishing the kids in the playground playing cowboys and Indians cops and robbers Fortnite.
 
2021-12-07 3:59:53 AM  

AuralArgument: Mister Buttons:

Now he's a furry


A furry costume would be the perfect getaway. You'd just have to obtain one.

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2021-12-07 4:00:05 AM  

Resident Muslim: cretinbob: lindalouwho: cretinbob: They are also pursuing charges against the school officials

*reads article*

Huh?

Local news
They failed to report his behavior

I'm sure that won't result in sub-zero tolerance policies and harshly punishing the kids in the playground playing cowboys and Indians cops and robbers Fortnite.


Oh, and losing the remaining teachers who care.
 
2021-12-07 4:06:35 AM  
Because that worked out SOOOOO well the last 30 years of trying it.

Both bans should last up to Christmas break before (a) people remember that hoodies make up a substantial part of a high school kid's attire and (b) every kid is late to class at least two or three times because they can't go from class across the building to their locker to another class in a third part of the building in enough time.

First one will be parents balking at buying new clothes, second will be teachers balking at even more unnecessary chaos.

\been almost 29 years since I was in school during a stabbing
\\the only reason the hoodie thing would've worked back then is that it happened in April so we didn't need them anymore anyway
\\\and we had the Massachusetts April Vacation to clear everyone's heads and go back to a relative normal
 
2021-12-07 4:09:00 AM  
Admittedly I went to very different kind of school, in a very different kind of place but does this strong assertion 'the reporting stayed at the guidance counselor level and never rose to the principal or vice principal' from the superintendent just ring unutterably false to anyone else? I don't know Michigan well at all. But it just doesn't seem correct to me somehow. Full higher-salary CYA in effect.

But what do I know? NYC is not central Michigan and how shiat would have been handled in the two places may be very different indeed.
 
2021-12-07 4:09:47 AM  

UndeadPoetsSociety: Mister Buttons: I'm having a flashback from 22 years ago, when the kid from drama class who wore a trench coat, wearing makeup from "The Crow", was ostracized after Columbine.

/He wound up being a functional adult, as far as I know.

Most of us did, yeah.


I didn't!  :p
 
2021-12-07 4:12:13 AM  
Kevin Smith inconsolable.
 
2021-12-07 4:14:02 AM  
School Rules.

No phones. If a shooting occurs do not film it or show the school in a bad light.  Do not call for help

You will be sent home and/or excluded for:
Wearing not enough and/or too much clothing.
Too tight and/or too loose clothing.

Please remove sunglasses as the teachers aren't that bright.
 
2021-12-07 4:20:36 AM  
If we have learned anything from Trayvon Martin it is hoodies are terrifying.

We always learn the wrong lessons.
 
2021-12-07 4:21:03 AM  
What a wonderful country. You can have all the guns you want, but try wearing a backpack...to school.

The US being crazy is nothing new.  When "see something, say something"  was being broadcast everywhere, the absurdity was glaring.  Every closed bag is suspect. Doesn't anyone remember the Battle of Algiers?
 
2021-12-07 4:22:59 AM  

JRoo: Well, you can't even talk about changing the rights of people with guns.

Better take away everyone else's rights instead.


Man, f*ck you.  The right to hunt (shoot beer cans) and overthrow the government (like that is at all possible, ha!)) absolutely trumps ALL OTHER rights to do anything, especially the rights of stupid kids at school to not be in fear of being randomly killed at any time.  Come on, they don't even pay taxes.
 
2021-12-07 4:23:23 AM  
So now kids can't even have their kevlar backpacks to give some protection.
 
2021-12-07 4:25:06 AM  
Crazy idea: if you have 7th-through-12th kid, any weapons in the house must be in a safe. One double barrel, break load shotgun allowed unlocked between sundown and sunup for home defense, in parent's room.

Violation resulting in injury, same charges as the shooter faces.
 
2021-12-07 4:48:32 AM  
Someone needs to release The Karen on this bullshiat.
 
2021-12-07 5:01:33 AM  
The shooter had not eaten breakfast that day. So from now on all students will require proof of having eaten breakfast before entering any school building.
 
2021-12-07 5:02:30 AM  

SergeantObvious: Crazy idea: if you have 7th-through-12th kid, any weapons in the house must be in a safe. One double barrel, break load shotgun allowed unlocked between sundown and sunup for home defense, in parent's room.

Violation resulting in injury, same charges as the shooter faces.


There have been kids under 10 caught taking their parents unsecured and loaded guns to school.
 
2021-12-07 5:12:50 AM  
I'm just waiting for some news outlet to comment on:
1) the violent video games he played
2) the rap, metal, edm or emo music he listened too
3) the visual media he enjoyed (squid game or YouTube channels, etc).

Since they already reported he played Minecraft that was a dead end but I'm sure there will be something else millions of normal kids do that will get the media stirred up.
 
2021-12-07 5:37:29 AM  
Hoodies aren't banned, just hoods being up
Backpacks aren't banned, they just have to remain in the locker during school. (same policy here in FL)
Subby, calm down.
 
2021-12-07 5:40:15 AM  
This is what fascism looks like.
 
2021-12-07 5:44:14 AM  

mojuba: I'm sure there will be something else millions of normal kids do that will get the media stirred up.


Was he a was a virgin and a chronic masturbater?  If so everyone on Fark is doomed.
 
2021-12-07 5:46:41 AM  

jokerscrowbar: School Rules.

No phones. If a shooting occurs do not film it or show the school in a bad light.  Do not call for help

You will be sent home and/or excluded for:
Wearing not enough and/or too much clothing.
Too tight and/or too loose clothing.

Please remove sunglasses as the teachers aren't that bright.


I don't wear them because of the teachers.

Timbuk 3 - The Future's So Bright
Youtube 8qrriKcwvlY
 
2021-12-07 5:50:30 AM  

jokerscrowbar: School Rules.

No phones. If a shooting occurs do not film it or show the school in a bad light.  Do not call for help

You will be sent home and/or excluded for:
Wearing not enough and/or too much clothing.
Too tight and/or too loose clothing.

Please remove sunglasses as the teachers your futures aren't that bright.


FTFY
 
2021-12-07 5:50:45 AM  

Hyjamon: jokerscrowbar: School Rules.

No phones. If a shooting occurs do not film it or show the school in a bad light.  Do not call for help

You will be sent home and/or excluded for:
Wearing not enough and/or too much clothing.
Too tight and/or too loose clothing.

Please remove sunglasses as the teachers aren't that bright.

I don't wear them because of the teachers.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/8qrriKcwvlY]


Damnit!
 
2021-12-07 6:08:54 AM  
No shades, no bright future
 
2021-12-07 6:11:27 AM  

jokerscrowbar: School Rules.

No phones. If a shooting occurs do not film it or show the school in a bad light.  Do not call for help

You will be sent home and/or excluded for:
Wearing not enough and/or too much clothing.
Too tight and/or too loose clothing.

Please remove sunglasses as the teachers aren't that bright.


One year when I was living in Simi Valley (yes, that Simi Valley), there was an incident where a man shot and killed a couple of family members before killing himself. In the story about the article, the local newspaper included a quote from the mayor, who complained that the number of fatalities probably ruined the city's chances of once again being selected one of "America's Safest Cities".
 
2021-12-07 6:15:33 AM  

JRoo: Well, you can't even talk about changing the rights of people with guns.

Better take away everyone else's rights instead.


Are backpacks mentioned in the Constitution?

/s
 
2021-12-07 6:29:20 AM  

mysha: jokerscrowbar: School Rules.

No phones. If a shooting occurs do not film it or show the school in a bad light.  Do not call for help

You will be sent home and/or excluded for:
Wearing not enough and/or too much clothing.
Too tight and/or too loose clothing.

Please remove sunglasses as the teachers aren't that bright.

One year when I was living in Simi Valley (yes, that Simi Valley), there was an incident where a man shot and killed a couple of family members before killing himself. In the story about the article, the local newspaper included a quote from the mayor, who complained that the number of fatalities probably ruined the city's chances of once again being selected one of "America's Safest Cities".


One time my town was proclaimed as the happiest town to live just a week after doctors announced it had the highest amount of anti-depressant proscriptions.
 
2021-12-07 6:33:24 AM  

jokerscrowbar: mysha: jokerscrowbar: School Rules.

No phones. If a shooting occurs do not film it or show the school in a bad light.  Do not call for help

You will be sent home and/or excluded for:
Wearing not enough and/or too much clothing.
Too tight and/or too loose clothing.

Please remove sunglasses as the teachers aren't that bright.

One year when I was living in Simi Valley (yes, that Simi Valley), there was an incident where a man shot and killed a couple of family members before killing himself. In the story about the article, the local newspaper included a quote from the mayor, who complained that the number of fatalities probably ruined the city's chances of once again being selected one of "America's Safest Cities".

One time my town was proclaimed as the happiest town to live just a week after doctors announced it had the highest amount of anti-depressant proscriptions.


*prescriptions

Damn to AutoWrong™
 
2021-12-07 6:36:14 AM  
Backpacks.  Jesus H. CHRIST.
 
2021-12-07 6:36:53 AM  
Has anyone considered banning whatever color the shooter was wearing that day? I don't think we've tried that yet.
 
2021-12-07 6:43:47 AM  
Is the rule against any hoodies or just assault hoodies?
 
2021-12-07 6:49:22 AM  

Mister Buttons: Kevin Smith inconsolable.


BS. I haven't heard him say anything.
 
2021-12-07 6:58:34 AM  
Typical overreaction.
The key is to punish people harshly who fail to secure firearms from children and the mentally ill. And to intervene when .evidence of mental illness is found.

The only way to prevent kids from carrying a gun to school is with metal detectors or scanners. If you're not willing to use those, you're wasting your time.
 
2021-12-07 7:03:02 AM  

JRoo: Well, you can't even talk about changing the rights of people with guns.

Better take away everyone else's rights instead.


You mean just like with mask and vaccine mandates?

/that's bait
 
2021-12-07 7:04:41 AM  

Mister Buttons: I'm having a flashback from 22 years ago, when the kid from drama class who wore a trench coat, wearing makeup from "The Crow", was ostracized after Columbine.

/He wound up being a functional adult, as far as I know.


"Hey that kid looks like those Columbine kids who killed everyone because people were mean to them. Let's be mean to him."
 
2021-12-07 7:19:34 AM  

SergeantObvious: Crazy idea: if you have 7th-through-12th kid, any weapons in the house must be in a safe. One double barrel, break load shotgun allowed unlocked between sundown and sunup for home defense, in parent's room.

Violation resulting in injury, same charges as the shooter faces.


But then criminals who break in will know there are only two shots they have to Matrix-dodge and they're already armed with an RPG because criminals don't follow laws so why should we punish law-abiding gun owners whose rights to defend themselves from Al Queda and ISIS shall NOT BE INFRINGED just because you want to take their guns away and put them in a government database to track them and also such as.
 
2021-12-07 7:30:37 AM  
Both of these policies existed in my school back in 2000. The backpack one always seemed super silly to me. Say a kid brings a backpack to class. He isn't treated like a potential school shooter, he's just asked to bring the backpack to his locker. If he does have a gun in there and is planning to use it, he would just start blasting instead of complying.
 
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