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2021-12-06 9:14:28 PM  
So, wireless controlled mortar shell. Took 'em long enough.
 
2021-12-06 9:22:13 PM  
Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

Annoyed by loud music, man uses drone to hit neighbors with fireworks
Youtube YjSzVHFrjRQ
 
2021-12-06 9:48:38 PM  
Seems appropriate this story will go to the liters on Dec. 7th
 
2021-12-06 10:07:36 PM  

exqqqme: Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

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After Amazon said they were going to do drone delivery (still not sure if they were serious) my local engineering school had a contest to see who could build a drone with the highest cargo capacity within a certain size limit. Those kids built drones that could carry over a pound of cargo in an aircraft that wasn't exactly concealable, but wasn't nearly as large as you'd want it to be if you had to shoot it down. You can fit a lot of destruction into ounces of plastic explosives:

C4 Explosion Tests | MythBusters
Youtube AwyniA5ryhY


The worst part is with an explosive, you don't have to be terribly accurate. Just fly the damn thing up over a crowd, cut the power and detonate when it's close to the ground. I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet somewhere.
 
2021-12-07 1:30:46 AM  
If 2022's leading cause of death is kamikaze drone strikes, I swear to God...
 
2021-12-07 1:36:26 AM  
Kamikaze drone?!?

One of the defining characteristics of a "kamikaze strike" is that the pilot is intended to be killed in the attack.
One of the defining characteristics of a "drone" is that there is no pilot.

This is not a kamikaze.. it is a low-cost guided missile.
 
2021-12-07 1:39:35 AM  
This is the one about the lesbian that has to face her right-wing mother, right
 
2021-12-07 1:42:45 AM  

Lsherm: exqqqme: Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

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After Amazon said they were going to do drone delivery (still not sure if they were serious) my local engineering school had a contest to see who could build a drone with the highest cargo capacity within a certain size limit. Those kids built drones that could carry over a pound of cargo in an aircraft that wasn't exactly concealable, but wasn't nearly as large as you'd want it to be if you had to shoot it down. You can fit a lot of destruction into ounces of plastic explosives:

[YouTube video: C4 Explosion Tests | MythBusters]

The worst part is with an explosive, you don't have to be terribly accurate. Just fly the damn thing up over a crowd, cut the power and detonate when it's close to the ground. I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet somewhere.


Honestly it's going to be the delivery vehicle of the future for terrorism.

Why spend the time loading a Ryder Truck with an ANFO bomb when terrorist can simply cover a smaller one will do. And if drone delivery is to be the future then it's not outside the realm of possibility that there will be drone courier services. You don't need a complicated drone manufacturing infrastructure if you can simply force an Amazon drone to land, throw an IED inside of it, the send it back on its way to the target.
 
2021-12-07 1:47:04 AM  

exqqqme: Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.


Video of Gun-Firing Drone Spurs Investigation
Youtube FI--wFfipvA


Been done.
 
2021-12-07 1:47:24 AM  
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2021-12-07 1:52:35 AM  
So when do we get a generation of dual-purpose Starlink satellites to monitor drone activity as a secondary mission to providing internet access?
 
2021-12-07 1:56:42 AM  

Lsherm: exqqqme: Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjSzVHFr​jRQ?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

After Amazon said they were going to do drone delivery (still not sure if they were serious) my local engineering school had a contest to see who could build a drone with the highest cargo capacity within a certain size limit. Those kids built drones that could carry over a pound of cargo in an aircraft that wasn't exactly concealable, but wasn't nearly as large as you'd want it to be if you had to shoot it down. You can fit a lot of destruction into ounces of plastic explosives:

[YouTube video: C4 Explosion Tests | MythBusters]

The worst part is with an explosive, you don't have to be terribly accurate. Just fly the damn thing up over a crowd, cut the power and detonate when it's close to the ground. I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet somewhere.


We have. Just a few weeks ago there was an assassination attempt on the Iraqi PM that failed by what looks like not very farking much at all. Like the margin between good luck and bad luck thin, you know?

I'm maybe a little less surprised than you but only because I work with the shiat a lot. And I have, since the days when you hadda roll your own. Governments are all too busy building autonomous killer robots to fark around with shiat like this and where they are interested ... well. Creech exists for a reason. A reason beyond keeping the arms manufacturers happy I mean.

So governments got their own thing going on, normal people couldn't care less as long as their streaming shows and Amazon deliveries are uninterrupted and that leaves, as you said, irregulars. Militias. Terrorists. Lone-wolf whackadoodles.

You don't need MIT degrees to do this kind of thing; I'm living proof - or rather, the first time a thing that I built flew and came back successfully with the camera still attached was the proof of that. Dumbos can absolutely make these things.

Making the bombs however is another set of skills. Mixing the two, as well as the other skills of improvisation and practiced coolness that you'd need, shrink the field considerably. Now from that field of possibles you need to find one who isn't merely completely able to pull something like this off. You need to find someone willing.

The list of people with the skillsets or training to do this kind of flying robot bomb work and be willing to commit acts of assassination and terror is not of an infinite size. The fine nets cast across the infosphere by the world's spooks will have identified most of them long ago. (Those that aren't already working for a government or a PMC, that is.)

The eighteen or so remaining ones are goddamn dangerous. I think you're right. I think someone is going to do something terrible with one of these. It won't be a small event, either. Drones can farking swarm, you know.
 
2021-12-07 1:56:58 AM  
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2021-12-07 2:05:15 AM  
JFC...

Someone invent a plasma drive already so the Vulcans freak out and come contain our childish asses.
 
2021-12-07 2:06:18 AM  

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: Lsherm: exqqqme: Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjSzVHFr​jRQ?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

After Amazon said they were going to do drone delivery (still not sure if they were serious) my local engineering school had a contest to see who could build a drone with the highest cargo capacity within a certain size limit. Those kids built drones that could carry over a pound of cargo in an aircraft that wasn't exactly concealable, but wasn't nearly as large as you'd want it to be if you had to shoot it down. You can fit a lot of destruction into ounces of plastic explosives:

[YouTube video: C4 Explosion Tests | MythBusters]

The worst part is with an explosive, you don't have to be terribly accurate. Just fly the damn thing up over a crowd, cut the power and detonate when it's close to the ground. I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet somewhere.

We have. Just a few weeks ago there was an assassination attempt on the Iraqi PM that failed by what looks like not very farking much at all. Like the margin between good luck and bad luck thin, you know?

I'm maybe a little less surprised than you but only because I work with the shiat a lot. And I have, since the days when you hadda roll your own. Governments are all too busy building autonomous killer robots to fark around with shiat like this and where they are interested ... well. Creech exists for a reason. A reason beyond keeping the arms manufacturers happy I mean.

So governments got their own thing going on, normal people couldn't care less as long as their streaming shows and Amazon deliveries are uninterrupted and that leaves, as you said, irregulars. Militias. Terrorists. Lone-wolf whackadoodles.

You don't need MIT degrees to do this kind of thing; I'm living proof - or rather, the first time a thing that I built flew and came back successfully with the camera still attached was the proof of that. Dumbos can absolutely make these things.

Making the bombs however is another set of skills. Mixing the two, as well as the other skills of improvisation and practiced coolness that you'd need, shrink the field considerably. Now from that field of possibles you need to find one who isn't merely completely able to pull something like this off. You need to find someone willing.

The list of people with the skillsets or training to do this kind of flying robot bomb work and be willing to commit acts of assassination and terror is not of an infinite size. The fine nets cast across the infosphere by the world's spooks will have identified most of them long ago. (Those that aren't already working for a government or a PMC, that is.)

The eighteen or so remaining ones are goddamn dangerous. I think you're right. I think someone is going to do something terrible with one of these. It won't be a small event, either. Drones can farking swarm, you know.


There are many many many capable.. but most competent engineers are not evil. What is problematic is when the tech becomes easier and easier and more accessible to where only basic engineering skills are needed.

Sort of like how building a nuclear weapon is easy, but just too damn expensive amd it is hard to hide.
 
2021-12-07 2:18:35 AM  

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: Lsherm: exqqqme: Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjSzVHFr​jRQ?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

After Amazon said they were going to do drone delivery (still not sure if they were serious) my local engineering school had a contest to see who could build a drone with the highest cargo capacity within a certain size limit. Those kids built drones that could carry over a pound of cargo in an aircraft that wasn't exactly concealable, but wasn't nearly as large as you'd want it to be if you had to shoot it down. You can fit a lot of destruction into ounces of plastic explosives:

[YouTube video: C4 Explosion Tests | MythBusters]

The worst part is with an explosive, you don't have to be terribly accurate. Just fly the damn thing up over a crowd, cut the power and detonate when it's close to the ground. I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet somewhere.

We have. Just a few weeks ago there was an assassination attempt on the Iraqi PM that failed by what looks like not very farking much at all. Like the margin between good luck and bad luck thin, you know?

I'm maybe a little less surprised than you but only because I work with the shiat a lot. And I have, since the days when you hadda roll your own. Governments are all too busy building autonomous killer robots to fark around with shiat like this and where they are interested ... well. Creech exists for a reason. A reason beyond keeping the arms manufacturers happy I mean.

So governments got their own thing going on, normal people couldn't care less as long as their streaming shows and Amazon deliveries are uninterrupted and that leaves, as you said, irregulars. Militias. Terrorists. Lone-wolf whackadoodles.

You don't need MIT degrees to do this kind of thing; I'm living proof - or rather, the first time a thing that I built flew and came back successfully with the camera still attached was the proof of that. Dumbos can absolutely make these things.

Making the bombs however is another set of skills. Mixing the two, as well as the other skills of improvisation and practiced coolness that you'd need, shrink the field considerably. Now from that field of possibles you need to find one who isn't merely completely able to pull something like this off. You need to find someone willing.

The list of people with the skillsets or training to do this kind of flying robot bomb work and be willing to commit acts of assassination and terror is not of an infinite size. The fine nets cast across the infosphere by the world's spooks will have identified most of them long ago. (Those that aren't already working for a government or a PMC, that is.)

The eighteen or so remaining ones are goddamn dangerous. I think you're right. I think someone is going to do something terrible with one of these. It won't be a small event, either. Drones can farking swarm, you know.


Precious metal clay is cool, but it's mostly silver powder and i think cellulose or something.  Why do they need murder drones makers!?
 
2021-12-07 2:25:25 AM  
look kids, its a 'drone'
b/c 'missiles' are expensive and hard to use
but now everyone on the block can blow up whoever they don't like for under $1,000.  using a simple smartphone app!
 
2021-12-07 2:31:48 AM  
Back in my day, we had to tie a cloth to a cat's tail, set it aflame, and just kind of hope they ran toward the Egyptian city we were trying to besiege.

Kids have it too darn easy these days.
 
2021-12-07 2:32:19 AM  

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: Making the bombs however is another set of skills. Mixing the two, as well as the other skills of improvisation and practiced coolness that you'd need, shrink the field considerably. Now from that field of possibles you need to find one who isn't merely completely able to pull something like this off. You need to find someone willing.

The list of people with the skillsets or training to do this kind of flying robot bomb work and be willing to commit acts of assassination and terror is not of an infinite size. The fine nets cast across the infosphere by the world's spooks will have identified most of them long ago. (Those that aren't already working for a government or a PMC, that is.)


you are VASTLY underestimating the number of people with this sort of bomb making expertise within these organizations.  sure most of them are probably identified and localized and you wont be seeing bomb drones flying around chicago any time soon.  but theres a lot of places where it would be trivial to get such a thing - including into port cities in the US if you launched them off ships in harbor pre-screening.  much less any number of active conflict zones around the world.

the fact that you can basically off the shelf the delivery mechanism, and have it in a format thats designed to be user friendly for the basic untrained civilian is a huge plus for the modern terrorist.
 
2021-12-07 2:33:06 AM  

Mister Buttons: Back in my day, we had to tie a cloth to a cat's tail, set it aflame, and just kind of hope they ran toward the Egyptian city we were trying to besiege.

Kids have it too darn easy these days.


thats why they invented the cat-a-pult
 
2021-12-07 2:34:43 AM  
For anyone who hasn't seen it yet:

Horror Short Film "Slaughterbots" | ALTER
Youtube 9fa9lVwHHqg
 
2021-12-07 2:42:39 AM  

My Klezmer Metal Cover Band: Lsherm: exqqqme: Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjSzVHFr​jRQ?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

After Amazon said they were going to do drone delivery (still not sure if they were serious) my local engineering school had a contest to see who could build a drone with the highest cargo capacity within a certain size limit. Those kids built drones that could carry over a pound of cargo in an aircraft that wasn't exactly concealable, but wasn't nearly as large as you'd want it to be if you had to shoot it down. You can fit a lot of destruction into ounces of plastic explosives:

[YouTube video: C4 Explosion Tests | MythBusters]

The worst part is with an explosive, you don't have to be terribly accurate. Just fly the damn thing up over a crowd, cut the power and detonate when it's close to the ground. I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet somewhere.

We have. Just a few weeks ago there was an assassination attempt on the Iraqi PM that failed by what looks like not very farking much at all. Like the margin between good luck and bad luck thin, you know?

I'm maybe a little less surprised than you but only because I work with the shiat a lot. And I have, since the days when you hadda roll your own. Governments are all too busy building autonomous killer robots to fark around with shiat like this and where they are interested ... well. Creech exists for a reason. A reason beyond keeping the arms manufacturers happy I mean.

So governments got their own thing going on, normal people couldn't care less as long as their streaming shows and Amazon deliveries are uninterrupted and that leaves, as you said, irregulars. Militias. Terrorists. Lone-wolf whackadoodles.

You don't need MIT degrees to do this kind of thing; I'm living proof - or rather, the first time a thing that I built flew and came back successfully with the camera still attached was the proof of that. Dumbos can absolutely make these things.

Making the bombs however is another set of skills. Mixing the two, as well as the other skills of improvisation and practiced coolness that you'd need, shrink the field considerably. Now from that field of possibles you need to find one who isn't merely completely able to pull something like this off. You need to find someone willing.

The list of people with the skillsets or training to do this kind of flying robot bomb work and be willing to commit acts of assassination and terror is not of an infinite size. The fine nets cast across the infosphere by the world's spooks will have identified most of them long ago. (Those that aren't already working for a government or a PMC, that is.)

The eighteen or so remaining ones are goddamn dangerous. I think you're right. I think someone is going to do something terrible with one of these. It won't be a small event, either. Drones can farking swarm, you know.


You don't really need bomb making skills when a case of shotgun shells will get the job done.
 
2021-12-07 2:52:05 AM  

oopsboom: look kids, its a 'drone'
b/c 'missiles' are expensive and hard to use
but now everyone on the block can blow up whoever they don't like for under $1,000.  using a simple smartphone app!


Username checks out
 
2021-12-07 3:09:17 AM  

skybird659: So, wireless controlled mortar shell. Took 'em long enough.


I worked in the R&D department at Aerovironment for several years during the lesser Bush administration.  This thing was in development then.  "Wireless controlled" is oversimplification to the point of inaccuracy.

Self-driving is more accurate but still a tad inaccurate.  The pilot is not in the loop for aerodynamic control, but sets waypoints, loiter boxes, etc., and the thing flies itself -- just like the hand-launched Ravens, Wasps and Pumas.

But this one has a warhead.  And, therefore, it was the only project I refused to work on.  (Well, strategically avoided assignment to is more accurate.)

TFA is pretty accurate on what technical details it does report.  What sets Switchblade apart is that it has an onboard vision-based tracking system that they spent a LOT of money and time on.  The operator indicates the target on his video terminal, and the algorithm can track and guide the UAV into intercept even as it gets closer and more detail is resolved by the camera.  And, as TFA mentions, there's a deadman wave-off that I've seen work even as late as half a second before impact.

Bottom line, on intercept the operator maintains control and must continuously assert his commitment to the target... the drone just takes care of the steering.  The killing part of the mission is NOT fire and forget, much less autonomous.

Still, the mixed feelings I had about working even adjacently to a weapons system, even one designed from the outset to minimize collateral damage, led me to find another job.

And then there was the rapid growth from a small company focused on R&D into electric autonomous vehicles into a large one focused on supplying surveillance drones to DoD... the culture changed as more and more Pentagon money came in, especially via DARPA and JSOC.  By the time I left, "bro culture" had taken over.  I could fit in, but I didn't like it.

Lots of very, very smart people work there.  The stuff I worked on was even more far out there than Switchblade.

Imagine swarms of drones surrounding a manned aircraft for point defense and/or reconnaissance.  Or tiny birdlike ones accompanying a soldier on the ground for the same purposes.  Or larger, long loiter drones with fire retardant payloads patrolling a forest to put out small fires before they grow into infernos...  Once the military money started flowing in, there was no idea too far out to spend a little money on for early research.

(Those specific ideas were all shelved by the way... at least temporarily.  But they just scratch the surface.)

But I like working with astronomers much better.  They're goddamned smart, too.
 
2021-12-07 4:31:36 AM  
This is further proof for the MAGA that birds aren't real.
 
2021-12-07 4:52:41 AM  

bughunter: skybird659: So, wireless controlled mortar shell. Took 'em long enough.

I worked in the R&D department at Aerovironment for several years during the lesser Bush administration.  This thing was in development then.  "Wireless controlled" is oversimplification to the point of inaccuracy.

Self-driving is more accurate but still a tad inaccurate.  The pilot is not in the loop for aerodynamic control, but sets waypoints, loiter boxes, etc., and the thing flies itself -- just like the hand-launched Ravens, Wasps and Pumas.

But this one has a warhead.  And, therefore, it was the only project I refused to work on.  (Well, strategically avoided assignment to is more accurate.)

TFA is pretty accurate on what technical details it does report.  What sets Switchblade apart is that it has an onboard vision-based tracking system that they spent a LOT of money and time on.  The operator indicates the target on his video terminal, and the algorithm can track and guide the UAV into intercept even as it gets closer and more detail is resolved by the camera.  And, as TFA mentions, there's a deadman wave-off that I've seen work even as late as half a second before impact.

Bottom line, on intercept the operator maintains control and must continuously assert his commitment to the target... the drone just takes care of the steering.  The killing part of the mission is NOT fire and forget, much less autonomous.

Still, the mixed feelings I had about working even adjacently to a weapons system, even one designed from the outset to minimize collateral damage, led me to find another job.

And then there was the rapid growth from a small company focused on R&D into electric autonomous vehicles into a large one focused on supplying surveillance drones to DoD... the culture changed as more and more Pentagon money came in, especially via DARPA and JSOC.  By the time I left, "bro culture" had taken over.  I could fit in, but I didn't like it.

Lots of very, very smart people work there.  The stuff I worked on was even more far out there than Switchblade.

Imagine swarms of drones surrounding a manned aircraft for point defense and/or reconnaissance.  Or tiny birdlike ones accompanying a soldier on the ground for the same purposes.  Or larger, long loiter drones with fire retardant payloads patrolling a forest to put out small fires before they grow into infernos...  Once the military money started flowing in, there was no idea too far out to spend a little money on for early research.

(Those specific ideas were all shelved by the way... at least temporarily.  But they just scratch the surface.)

But I like working with astronomers much better.  They're goddamned smart, too.


Have the astronomers you work with killed anyone recently, or taken out a family or wedding party?

You can blink to acknowledge.
 
2021-12-07 5:15:55 AM  
Bit of an Aussie joke here.

"Angry birds? Isn't that just MTG and Lauren Boebert on Twitter!"
 
2021-12-07 5:33:19 AM  

tinderfitles: Lsherm: exqqqme: Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjSzVHFr​jRQ?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

After Amazon said they were going to do drone delivery (still not sure if they were serious) my local engineering school had a contest to see who could build a drone with the highest cargo capacity within a certain size limit. Those kids built drones that could carry over a pound of cargo in an aircraft that wasn't exactly concealable, but wasn't nearly as large as you'd want it to be if you had to shoot it down. You can fit a lot of destruction into ounces of plastic explosives:

[YouTube video: C4 Explosion Tests | MythBusters]

The worst part is with an explosive, you don't have to be terribly accurate. Just fly the damn thing up over a crowd, cut the power and detonate when it's close to the ground. I'm surprised we haven't seen it yet somewhere.

Honestly it's going to be the delivery vehicle of the future for terrorism.

Why spend the time loading a Ryder Truck with an ANFO bomb when terrorist can simply cover a smaller one will do. And if drone delivery is to be the future then it's not outside the realm of possibility that there will be drone courier services. You don't need a complicated drone manufacturing infrastructure if you can simply force an Amazon drone to land, throw an IED inside of it, the send it back on its way to the target.


Drones were already used extensively in the Syrian Civil War. They took out freaking tanks by dropping explosives into open hatches.
 
2021-12-07 6:21:00 AM  

refudiate: Have the astronomers you work with killed anyone recently, or taken out a family or wedding party?

You can blink to acknowledge.


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2021-12-07 6:38:00 AM  

oopsboom: look kids, its a 'drone'
b/c 'missiles' are expensive and hard to use
but now everyone on the block can blow up whoever they don't like for under $1,000.  using a simple smartphone app!


Username checks out
 
2021-12-07 6:46:30 AM  
A drone that can be bought off-the-shelf for a couple grand can't carry enough explosive to really cause a good mass casualty event.

Enough chemical agent, on the other hand...

Certainly enough biological material.
 
2021-12-07 7:12:25 AM  

Squik2: For anyone who hasn't seen it yet:

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/9fa9lVwH​Hqg?start=19]


I saw that a while ago.  And it is farking horrifying.  Because the technology they describe in that video is absolutely real.  And if a couple of filmmakers could think of it, an actual person could actually produce such things.

So it's horrifying simply because it's so evidently plausible.
 
2021-12-07 7:16:27 AM  
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2021-12-07 7:40:21 AM  
Y'all aren't using your imagination enough.  Terrorists don't have the sort of resources that a good drug cartel can muster.  Imagine these things in the hands of genuine psychopaths, not bound by ideology and instead doing it for the notoriety and the cash! The possibilities are boundless!  The share price will be amazing!
 
2021-12-07 8:12:04 AM  

exqqqme: Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

[YouTube video: Annoyed by loud music, man uses drone to hit neighbors with fireworks]


Of course you are, because that could potentially affect you. What your military does with suicide drones only affects those dirty foreigners.
 
2021-12-07 8:13:11 AM  
More like assassination drones. I knew we'd get there some day. Wait until they're the size of a bug, fly up, inject you with some sort of poison, or a nano-nuke that blows your melon off.

/ human race continues to swirl the bowl
 
2021-12-07 8:37:46 AM  
Olga of Kiev will sue for copyright infringement. And then things will get nasty.
 
2021-12-07 8:48:11 AM  
Yeah, I've been ranting about this for years.

A Claymore mine weighs about 3.5 lbs.  How big of a drone would you need to fly a Claymore 200 feet over a crowd at a sporting event or open air concert?

How much does a EFP (explosively formed projectile) weigh?  Tank armor is relatively thin on top and tanks have a pretty distictive shape.  Fly over the tank, swoop down and bang!   Dead tank.
 
2021-12-07 8:51:11 AM  
It's about as pay to win as the game has become too.
 
2021-12-07 8:53:28 AM  

Squik2: For anyone who hasn't seen it yet:

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The sad part?  That short is old.  And every day looks more prophetic.
 
2021-12-07 9:40:33 AM  
Isn't a "Kamikaze drone" essentially a guided missile?
 
2021-12-07 10:03:22 AM  

Skleenar: Isn't a "Kamikaze drone" essentially a guided missile?


Look, some nice person made a table for you:

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2021-12-07 11:40:58 AM  
foretold in Faernheight 451 in 1953

mechanical hound
 
2021-12-07 12:35:42 PM  

Skleenar: Isn't a "Kamikaze drone" essentially a guided missile?


The drone pilots get PTSD
 
2021-12-07 1:50:38 PM  

Skleenar: Isn't a "Kamikaze drone" essentially a guided missile?

BigNumber12: Skleenar: Isn't a "Kamikaze drone" essentially a guided missile?

Look, some nice person made a table for you:

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a guided missile uses a highly advanced computer to find a target using a complicated target profile and guidance package.

a kamikaze drone gets the same warhead there a lot cheaper by putting a camera on the front so some guy with an iPad can go "ill know it when i see it"
 
2021-12-07 2:21:32 PM  
"Kamikaze drone" is possibly the dumbest oxymoronic term ever cooked-up by a pants-wetting journalist. It's a guided missile, something that's been around for about seventy years. And using a commercially-available drone with a bomb strapped to it as one isn't even a new thing.
 
2021-12-07 4:43:40 PM  

exqqqme: Yeah - this was the big concern a few years ago when registration was being pushed. Drones tech is pretty cheap and it's getting more and more ubiquitous.

I'm more worried about domestic terrorism. Somebody is going to figure out a way to strap a piece onto his drone and do an aerial strike redneck-style.

[YouTube video: Annoyed by loud music, man uses drone to hit neighbors with fireworks]


oyster.ignimgs.comView Full Size
 
2021-12-07 9:25:46 PM  
I had a book idea in the '80s about a terrorism plot but I never wrote it because I didn't want to give anybody any ideas.

so much for that.
 
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