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(SoraNews24)   Police screw up traffic notice prohibiting right turns at specific intersection, give back over 10 grand in fines they collected. Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane shakes his head in disbelief   (soranews24.com) divider line
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2021-12-06 7:24:02 PM  
Definitely not the USA.
 
2021-12-06 7:32:36 PM  

dionysusaur: Definitely not the USA.


Yep, had to click to see what country it was because this would never happen in the US
 
2021-12-07 1:47:52 AM  
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2021-12-07 1:57:56 AM  
Japanese Uncle Penny Bags is terrifying! (But could use more tentacles)

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2021-12-07 1:57:58 AM  
This very exact situation happened to me. Improperly placed sign in violation of DOT regulations as the wind swing it 180 degrees and no longer visible from the oncoming lane.
I show the ALJ a printout of the exact rules in the DOT handbook governing the adequate placement and fixture of the sign. The sign was completely ineligible to be considered a traffic device and this no penalty could be enforced.

The ALJ tells me "You're probably right, but I've never heard that before so I still have to fine you."
 
2021-12-07 3:21:52 AM  
There's a pretty busy intersection around here where where the right turn lane has a yield sign and the oncoming left turn lane has a traffic light with a green circle.  The green circle light means "yield to oncoming traffic".  So both lanes are instructed to yield.  If cars from both directions want to turn onto the same road at the same time, someone has to ignore the traffic control for their lane.  Or I guess the car with the yield sign could wait until they have a red light then make a right on red which is not prohibited.  Probably get shot for holding up traffic.
 
2021-12-07 3:25:21 AM  
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2021-12-07 3:57:03 AM  

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I'd split the difference and just barrel straight ahead, consequences be damned.
 
2021-12-07 4:49:29 AM  
Police as a public service? Instead of a revenue generation tool? What kind of madness is this?
 
2021-12-07 4:57:51 AM  
When I seen Yen I walked away.
 
2021-12-07 6:19:22 AM  

jtown: There's a pretty busy intersection around here where where the right turn lane has a yield sign and the oncoming left turn lane has a traffic light with a green circle.  The green circle light means "yield to oncoming traffic".  So both lanes are instructed to yield.  If cars from both directions want to turn onto the same road at the same time, someone has to ignore the traffic control for their lane.  Or I guess the car with the yield sign could wait until they have a red light then make a right on red which is not prohibited.  Probably get shot for holding up traffic.


I would interpret it as the through lane has the right of way, then the right turn and then the left turn.
 
2021-12-07 9:31:35 AM  
Personally I found the story off to the side about dog pee being responsible for a sign collapsing more amusing..
 
2021-12-07 9:41:00 AM  
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2021-12-07 11:19:47 AM  
Back in 1992, I got a ticket for an illegal right turn coming out of a mall (thats how you know it was '92).  I told the cop there was no signs and he said there was.  I was angry enough to go back into the parking lot and look. I found a sign painted over a stop sign at the end of a row parking spaces that only could be seen if you went down that 1 row.  I lived 2 counties and 80 miles away but I went home, got the camera, came back and took pictures to fight it because I was so pissed. Spent more money in gas, film, and picture development than the ticket would cost if I just mailed in a check.

When I showed up at court, I was one of the early birds  and got a seat but it ended up standing room only. Talking to others and they had the same story as me.

When the judge showed up, once we all did our stand up/sit down thing they make us do in court to start off, the judge made an announcement.  "How many of you are here for the no right turn at the mall?" All but like 3 people raised their hand.  "Your charges are dismissed.  All court costs for your case are charged to the Lancaster Police Department.  Please see the clerk to complete your paperwork and provide receipts for anything you did for your defense and you will be compensated".

All of the following was in the local paper but I lived 2 counties away and didn't see it until court day.  Turns out the city sheriff thought they could make a little extra Christmas money with a scheme and incorrectly assumed people would just pay a $10 ticket than waste their time going to court. Turns out the police department was self funding - they got the money from traffic violations and anything left over at the end of the year was a bonus.  His two sons working for him started just sitting there and writing tickets.  3 weeks later, the court rooms started filling up.  After a couple of people in a row told the same story, the judge was suspicious and asked the question he asked us.  He temporarily suspended court and drove over to the mall himself, saw the sign, and saw a cop car sitting around the corner.

When he came back, he dropped all charges for the people there and issued a bench warrant for several people and send his bailiffs to get them to find out how this happened.  The mayor, sheriff, the sherrif's son the judge had seen sitting there, and city director of roads and parks were all dragged in and the sheriff's scheme was discovered.  The mayor asked for arrest warrants, the judge granted them, and the sheriff went straight to jail from court.   The sheriff and his two sons were the first public officials convicted for corruption charges in the county in over a hundred years.

The judges decision to charge all court charges for the  tickets to police department resulted in them losing 4 of their 10 cops for lack of funding.  That $10 ticket included an $85 court cost if you showed up and between the 3 of them, they had written 50-100 tickets a day for 3 weeks. Several people had hired a lawyer and they had to pay those fees too.  The police department tried to appeal the judges decision but the city's lawyer refused the case.  The $85  court cost that would have gone to the police department went to the general fund instead since it was fraud, not a traffic violation. The city put it all to the crime victim's fund.

The best part (I think) is the mall had the typical sign you could change the letters. After I left the courthouse, I went to the mall to finish some Christmas shopping. The sign was changed to "Right Turns Encouraged!"
 
2021-12-07 11:29:07 AM  

Seasons I'v Withered: When I seen Yen I walked away.


You had no Yen for the article.
 
2021-12-07 11:37:51 AM  
CSB:
A Brazilian years ago, I exited a highway on a ramp that terminated in 3 lanes, a left only, a right only, and a left-straight-right in the middle. I go left from the middle lane. Cop pulls me over. Asks if I know why he pulled me over. Nope. Says I made an illegal left turn. I said, but the sign said... he said nope, wrote me a fairly large ticket and drove off. Asshole.

I came back the next day with my Polaroid (that's how long ago) and took a couple pics of the sign and the lane markings ( middle lane markings were right/straight only, but sign was any which way). I contacted the DOT, and found out they had recently changed signage there and got a document with the details faxed to me (again, dating myself).

I prepared several copies of the information I had collected with photos and diagrams and took that shiat to court.

Sat in the courtroom watching all the saps get their day in court with a real ballbuster judge for a while, and then it was my turn. I went up, the cop showed up, judge asked him what happened, he started to read off his notes to which I objected that if he didn't have independent memory of the incident he wasn't a credible witness. Judge sighed, sustained the objection and made the cop do it from memory, which he got the basics right, which was fine, but boy did the cop shoot me a dirty look.

Then it was my turn. I asked to approach and enter my dossier into evidence and handed a copy to the judge and the cop. I explained that my turn was perfectly legal based on the signage, supported by photographic evidence, and the DOT paperwork. The judge asked the cop if he had a specific memory of the signage on the day in question and the cop got all flustered and pissed, I drive by it every day blah blah, but when pressed, he said no.

Judge said in light of the evidence I made a legal turn and case dismissed.

The crowd in the back of the courtroom absolutely cheered when that went down, so much so the judge had to gavel order. Cop was PISSED, grumbling and swearing. I made sure to drive very carefully away from the courthouse that day.
/CSB
 
2021-12-07 11:51:14 AM  

punkwrestler: jtown: There's a pretty busy intersection around here where where the right turn lane has a yield sign and the oncoming left turn lane has a traffic light with a green circle.  The green circle light means "yield to oncoming traffic".  So both lanes are instructed to yield.  If cars from both directions want to turn onto the same road at the same time, someone has to ignore the traffic control for their lane.  Or I guess the car with the yield sign could wait until they have a red light then make a right on red which is not prohibited.  Probably get shot for holding up traffic.

I would interpret it as the through lane has the right of way, then the right turn and then the left turn.


You can't interpret it that way because it can't be assumed that anyone in the intersection knows any other directions than the ones that they're given.  I know what the other lane has because I've gone thru that intersection many times from all directions.  But the rules have to be laid out so that anyone entering that intersection from any direction is going thru for the first time and has no idea what signage or lighting the other lanes have.
 
2021-12-07 12:25:11 PM  

Bread314: The judges decision to charge all court charges for the tickets to police department resulted in them losing 4 of their 10 cops for lack of funding. That $10 ticket included an $85 court cost if you showed up and between the 3 of them, they had written 50-100 tickets a day for 3 weeks. Several people had hired a lawyer and they had to pay those fees too. The police department tried to appeal the judges decision but the city's lawyer refused the case. The $85 court cost that would have gone to the police department went to the general fund instead since it was fraud, not a traffic violation. The city put it all to the crime victim's fund.


The old court costs scam--make it more expensive to fight the ticket than to pay it.
 
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