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(NBC New York)   New York City mandates two doses of COVID-19 vaccine for private-sector employees ages 5-11, or something like that. Headline needs more commas   (nbcnewyork.com) divider line
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2021-12-06 3:36:55 PM  
The MAGA wailing and rending of garments will be epic.


Muuuuhhhh Freeeeduuuuumbs!
 
2021-12-06 5:44:01 PM  
More, commas?

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2021-12-06 5:44:15 PM  
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/You never go full Shatner comma.
 
2021-12-06 5:52:53 PM  
NYC Expands Vaccine Mandate to Whole Private Sector, Ups Dose Proof to 2 and Adds Kids 5-11

Fixed.
 
2021-12-06 6:00:40 PM  
Sucks for this who went with the J&J option.
 
2021-12-06 6:05:22 PM  

labman: Sucks for this who went with the J&J option.


Not really.  Original plus Booster = two.
 
2021-12-06 6:07:51 PM  
How long until not only the employee must be vaccinated, but his family/household members, as well?
 
2021-12-06 6:08:44 PM  

foo monkey: How long until not only the employee must be vaccinated, but his family/household members, as well?


Hopefully soon.
 
2021-12-06 6:20:55 PM  
adds kids 5-11

So, kids + -6 ? This must be that new math they're teaching in schools.
 
2021-12-06 6:21:28 PM  
This will surely be the step that makes covid go away.  For real this time.
 
2021-12-06 6:25:39 PM  
The vaccine is now 2 Proof? Gonna take a hell of a lot of them to get drunk 🙁
 
2021-12-06 6:28:49 PM  
Good.  If the plague rats don't want to behave in a way that's safe for society, they can be excluded from it.
 
2021-12-06 6:31:39 PM  
Ah... So this is why a guy at work had an American flag mask on upside down and was muttering about New York.

/Free shrugs
 
2021-12-06 6:35:31 PM  
I'm vaccinated but how does this lame duck fark have any authority what private companies do?
 
2021-12-06 6:38:18 PM  

ImpendingCynic: adds kids 5-11

So, kids + -6 ? This must be that new math they're teaching in schools.


Nah just vax 5 kids, subtract (very late abortion) 11 additional kids.  Its a ratio.
 
2021-12-06 6:41:23 PM  
Rimmer: "After intensive investigation, comma, of the markings on the alien pod, comma, it has become clear, comma, to me, comma, that we are dealing, comma, with a species of awesome intellect, colon."

Holly : "Good. Perhaps they might be able to give you a hand with your punctuation."
 
2021-12-06 6:42:18 PM  

Jeebus Saves: This will surely be the step that makes covid go away.  For real this time.


They had another day today with zero Covid deaths.

Virus isn't going anywhere, but so isn't your grandma.
 
2021-12-06 6:52:43 PM  
The MAGA commentators are very worried that this will harm NYC's tourism.
 
2021-12-06 6:54:58 PM  

SpectroBoy: The MAGA wailing and rending of garments will be epic.


Muuuuhhhh Freeeeduuuuumbs!


Lived in NYC, or immediately outside it my entire life. Worked in it the majority of my career.

First off, EVERYONE hates DeBlasio. I don't care about your political stripes, your whatever, the dude is the definition of a tool. He has done a handful of good things in his terms i'll give him credit for, which he deserves, but he managed to piss the entire city off in the process in one way or another.

I am vaccinated, my family, pretty much everyone i give 2 shiats about is vaccinated, i've said my piece where appropriate to the few who aren't and left it at that. I encourage everyone to get the vaccine.

I have mixed feelings about MANDATING private sector stuff, and honestly he is probably just setting the city up for a bunch of expensive lawsuits it may or may not win, and by the time its settled it will have cost the city god knows how much money and will be years from now. The vast majority of companies of size in the city mandate vaccines as is, and there is little pushback. He also folded on several of the city unions on allowing rapid tests, which he is not giving as an option to the private sectors.

My kid, who is at the low end of the 5-11 age group is vaccinated. She will be getting her second shot this week. 8 days is pretty farking short notice though, especially around the holidays for banning people from restaurants, shows, etc if their kids aren't vaccinated yet. Its going to cause issues, and its going to be half assed enforced at best, even in a city that is very pro vaccine.

TLDR; While i really encourage everyone to get vaccinated, this was an overstep, and will cause more negativity than it will get people vaccinated. The wagons have long circled on this one, and if anything i think this will hurt the child vaccination rate.
 
2021-12-06 6:56:52 PM  

IHadMeAVision: I'm vaccinated but how does this lame duck fark have any authority what private companies do?


Well, the private establishments in question fall under the purview of the Health Board. This can very easily be tied to Health Codes for Restaurants and Gyms. A private business cannot serve contaminated food and not practice proper hygiene. You as a patron cannot enter naked and rub your balls all over the booth.
 
2021-12-06 6:56:55 PM  
Cry about it, plague rats.
 
2021-12-06 6:59:07 PM  

Teddy Brosevelt: Cry about it, plague rats.


I wish what could be an awesome novelty handle, wasn't lost on someone spitting shiat as trite as that.
 
2021-12-06 7:01:34 PM  
Age 5 to 11 workforce? Is it one of these things?

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2021-12-06 7:04:09 PM  

LineNoise: SpectroBoy: The MAGA wailing and rending of garments will be epic.


Muuuuhhhh Freeeeduuuuumbs!

Lived in NYC, or immediately outside it my entire life. Worked in it the majority of my career.

First off, EVERYONE hates DeBlasio. I don't care about your political stripes, your whatever, the dude is the definition of a tool. He has done a handful of good things in his terms i'll give him credit for, which he deserves, but he managed to piss the entire city off in the process in one way or another.

I am vaccinated, my family, pretty much everyone i give 2 shiats about is vaccinated, i've said my piece where appropriate to the few who aren't and left it at that. I encourage everyone to get the vaccine.

I have mixed feelings about MANDATING private sector stuff, and honestly he is probably just setting the city up for a bunch of expensive lawsuits it may or may not win, and by the time its settled it will have cost the city god knows how much money and will be years from now. The vast majority of companies of size in the city mandate vaccines as is, and there is little pushback. He also folded on several of the city unions on allowing rapid tests, which he is not giving as an option to the private sectors.

My kid, who is at the low end of the 5-11 age group is vaccinated. She will be getting her second shot this week. 8 days is pretty farking short notice though, especially around the holidays for banning people from restaurants, shows, etc if their kids aren't vaccinated yet. Its going to cause issues, and its going to be half assed enforced at best, even in a city that is very pro vaccine.

TLDR; While i really encourage everyone to get vaccinated, this was an overstep, and will cause more negativity than it will get people vaccinated. The wagons have long circled on this one, and if anything i think this will hurt the child vaccination rate.


It's only one shot for the 5-11 age range for indoor dining.
 
2021-12-06 7:05:34 PM  

Jeebus Saves: This will surely be the step that makes covid go away.  For real this time.


Most recent report has 88% of cases in NYC were unvaccinated people, while the city is 70% vaccinated.
 
2021-12-06 7:07:52 PM  

LineNoise: SpectroBoy: The MAGA wailing and rending of garments will be epic.


Muuuuhhhh Freeeeduuuuumbs!

Lived in NYC, or immediately outside it my entire life. Worked in it the majority of my career.

First off, EVERYONE hates DeBlasio. I don't care about your political stripes, your whatever, the dude is the definition of a tool. He has done a handful of good things in his terms i'll give him credit for, which he deserves, but he managed to piss the entire city off in the process in one way or another.

I am vaccinated, my family, pretty much everyone i give 2 shiats about is vaccinated, i've said my piece where appropriate to the few who aren't and left it at that. I encourage everyone to get the vaccine.

I have mixed feelings about MANDATING private sector stuff, and honestly he is probably just setting the city up for a bunch of expensive lawsuits it may or may not win, and by the time its settled it will have cost the city god knows how much money and will be years from now. The vast majority of companies of size in the city mandate vaccines as is, and there is little pushback. He also folded on several of the city unions on allowing rapid tests, which he is not giving as an option to the private sectors.

My kid, who is at the low end of the 5-11 age group is vaccinated. She will be getting her second shot this week. 8 days is pretty farking short notice though, especially around the holidays for banning people from restaurants, shows, etc if their kids aren't vaccinated yet. Its going to cause issues, and its going to be half assed enforced at best, even in a city that is very pro vaccine.

TLDR; While i really encourage everyone to get vaccinated, this was an overstep, and will cause more negativity than it will get people vaccinated. The wagons have long circled on this one, and if anything i think this will hurt the child vaccination rate.


Who cares about "negativity"? Snowflakes like this deserve nothing but disdain. COVID Vaccines have already saved hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Americans already. These assholes are clogging up the hospitals and spreading COVID Willy nilly.
 
2021-12-06 7:09:29 PM  

IHadMeAVision: I'm vaccinated but how does this lame duck fark have any authority what private companies do?


Civics and government should really be a required course at wherever you grew up.
 
2021-12-06 7:12:31 PM  
Yes, but you have 8 days to get it.

Look, i'm all for the vaccination. I was in the very early rounds for mine because of volunteer work and exposure\spread i may cause. Similar for my wife.

Our 6 year old my wife was naturally hesitant on, because while she is well educated, she is a mom. It made both her and my 6 year old much more comfortable to have it done at her doctor, instead of the end of the petfood aisle at CVS. That is a lot of people, and it takes time to work through that. Better they get vaccinated a week or two later than not at all, right?

He basically said, "Yeah, your plans are farked in 8 days if you don't have your appointment locked in now to a few million people".

Its NY. The city gets it, it will look like its enforced, but it will be quietly enforced at best. I've been to shows and stuff during this, and sure the occasional person is turned away, but its almost always a dick instead of someone willing to play it cool. All this does is give ammo to people against the vaccine.

And again, I AM 100% FOR THE VACCINE. GET VACCINATED. GET YOUR KIDS VACCINATED. but this is a shiatty tactic to get over the hump, and a shiatty timeline to do it in.

The local talk is he is doing this and falling on his sword over it, to spare Adams the decision if the latest variants blow up early in his term, but that would be so beyond DeBlasio's character and his mayorship that i find it hard to believe.
 
2021-12-06 7:13:40 PM  

gamergirl23: It's only one shot for the 5-11 age range for indoor dining.


and entertainment venues.

But not school, you know, where many of those kids spend 6+ hours a day.
 
2021-12-06 7:16:05 PM  

Moopy Mac: IHadMeAVision: I'm vaccinated but how does this lame duck fark have any authority what private companies do?

Civics and government should really be a required course at wherever you grew up.


where the hell did you grow up that it wasn't?

Really it should be something required you demonstrate a knowledge of before you get to vote.
 
2021-12-06 7:24:53 PM  

gamergirl23: It's only one shot for the 5-11 age range for indoor dining.


yes but it has only been available to them for a little over a month.

The dumb thing about this is its a shot down the line of the upper middle class and up in the city. There isn't some kid in the boonies of the Bronx that is going to have parents eat his his orchestra seats at a Broadway show or out of town family dinner at Carmine's or whatever over this.

Its a feel good thing that the majority of people it will effect, let alone is enforced upon, are already vaccinated.

At the same time it will piss a ton of people off.

So, you know, DeBlasio.
 
2021-12-06 7:26:52 PM  

kabloink: Age 5 to 11 workforce? Is it one of these things?

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I gotta be honest, you seento be getting nore and more clever with this
 
2021-12-06 7:27:48 PM  

Moopy Mac: Who cares about "negativity"? Snowflakes like this deserve nothing but disdain. COVID Vaccines have already saved hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Americans already. These assholes are clogging up the hospitals and spreading COVID Willy nilly.


Go look at the vaccination rates based on demographics in NYC, and come back again and tell me they are still assholes.
 
2021-12-06 7:50:00 PM  
Will look forward to the spin as a bunch of businesses leave.
 
2021-12-06 7:53:32 PM  

LineNoise: gamergirl23: It's only one shot for the 5-11 age range for indoor dining.

and entertainment venues.

But not school, you know, where many of those kids spend 6+ hours a day.


There would be a ton of kids who really need to be in school yanked out of school with a mandate. I'm sure they were hoping vaccinating enough adults would protect the youngest kids with resistant parents, but the math on that may have changed.

I really wish people would, and I advise them to, but at the same time, my kid will be fully vaccinated on Friday since she got her second shot last week. That's all I can do.
 
2021-12-06 7:53:59 PM  

LineNoise: Yes, but you have 8 days to get it.

Look, i'm all for the vaccination. I was in the very early rounds for mine because of volunteer work and exposure\spread i may cause. Similar for my wife.

Our 6 year old my wife was naturally hesitant on, because while she is well educated, she is a mom. It made both her and my 6 year old much more comfortable to have it done at her doctor, instead of the end of the petfood aisle at CVS. That is a lot of people, and it takes time to work through that. Better they get vaccinated a week or two later than not at all, right?

He basically said, "Yeah, your plans are farked in 8 days if you don't have your appointment locked in now to a few million people".

Its NY. The city gets it, it will look like its enforced, but it will be quietly enforced at best. I've been to shows and stuff during this, and sure the occasional person is turned away, but its almost always a dick instead of someone willing to play it cool. All this does is give ammo to people against the vaccine.

And again, I AM 100% FOR THE VACCINE. GET VACCINATED. GET YOUR KIDS VACCINATED. but this is a shiatty tactic to get over the hump, and a shiatty timeline to do it in.

The local talk is he is doing this and falling on his sword over it, to spare Adams the decision if the latest variants blow up early in his term, but that would be so beyond DeBlasio's character and his mayorship that i find it hard to believe.


While I can appreciate your concern over the time frame, I myself have experienced similar frustrations just getting the flu shot recently for one of my kids (drove to 3 different towns before I could find a "walk in" appointment (another story but all offering "walk in" were not), however what is wrong with a pharmacy "by pet food" vs the Dr? I just said, hey Jr it will take 2-3 weeks to get in to your normal doctor, we are going to schedule at Walgreens (They are interchangeable with CVS, Rite Aid, etc) and get you on your way to being protected in 3 days. For some reason my kid was like, "okay!". I do get it that perhaps you may have had some future plans, but it is okay if you have to postpone something and your kids will understand, its not like this pandemic has made things convenient for anyone including children.
/ I'm glad you are for vaccination
// Do what is important
/// Don't forget there are jerks that don't care what you do
 
2021-12-06 8:10:37 PM  
So, who's going to enforce this? Because it's not like you can count on the NYPD to help.
 
2021-12-06 8:26:46 PM  

Moopy Mac: IHadMeAVision: I'm vaccinated but how does this lame duck fark have any authority what private companies do?

Civics and government should really be a required course at wherever you grew up.


I majored in political science. I've never heard of anything like this below the state level, and even then it's live in a dorm and often just a strong recommendation. Hell, for my state (New York) the vaccine requirements for college students living off-campus got eased while I was attending, which was good for me. Less paperwork.

If this mamdate doesn't stink of a last-minute try-to-get-unrealistic-shiat-through-the-closing-window-even-though-it's-going-to-be-the-next-administration's-problem-to-deal-with-the-obvious-future-court-showdown to you, then common sense should be a required class where you grew up. The weird thing is usually politicians try not to pull that shiat when their own party is reelected.

Dude can't even get his own employees vaccinated over months and he thinks this mandate is releastic? Sounds like a fine-generating scheme to me. Short notice during a month where employers are holding onto seasonal employees they're planning on letting go by Jan 15th anyway.

Anecdotally, enforcement of the vaccine mandate for restaurants is a joke, if you don't look like a cop or inspector or whatever half the time they don't even ask and if they do they don't care if you can find it as long as you made an effort to search your phone.
 
2021-12-06 8:30:53 PM  

darinwil: For some reason my kid was like, "okay!".


Kids pay attention, and after a year and a half of living in a pandemic, they've figured out what side of this whole mess (and what side of the grass) they want to be on.
 
2021-12-06 8:40:48 PM  
I really wish we had a mandate for indoor dining.
 
2021-12-06 8:43:15 PM  
Bold move by Cotton with just four days left in his term. Leave the fallout to Adams. Not that I am against this policy per se but that's an awful of additional paperwork etc for the many small businesses that don't even have a HR.
 
2021-12-06 8:45:43 PM  

darinwil: however what is wrong with a pharmacy "by pet food" vs the Dr?


Absolutely nothing, you are 100% right on that. They have the same capacity to deal with some reaction in an effective way in either place, and in all honesty, the CVS would be about 5 minutes closer to the hospital she would go to from her dr's office.

But its also a 6 year old getting a shot, you want her to be comfortable with it, you want her not to end up with some adversity to getting shots, so you reason has its limits to it. She would rather do it with the dr she knows and digs, and it isn't me dragging her in there, cool, its been 2 years, we can wait a week or two for an apointment.
 
2021-12-06 8:51:18 PM  

damageddude: Bold move by Cotton with just four days left in his term. Leave the fallout to Adams. Not that I am against this policy per se but that's an awful of additional paperwork etc for the many small businesses that don't even have a HR.


Let
 
2021-12-06 8:53:57 PM  

LineNoise: darinwil: however what is wrong with a pharmacy "by pet food" vs the Dr?

Absolutely nothing, you are 100% right on that. They have the same capacity to deal with some reaction in an effective way in either place, and in all honesty, the CVS would be about 5 minutes closer to the hospital she would go to from her dr's office.

But its also a 6 year old getting a shot, you want her to be comfortable with it, you want her not to end up with some adversity to getting shots, so you reason has its limits to it. She would rather do it with the dr she knows and digs, and it isn't me dragging her in there, cool, its been 2 years, we can wait a week or two for an apointment.


Thanks for that, I forget that everyone does not have my same life experiences. I have the opposite situation, the family doctor is about an hour away and my kids are used to heading to the local pharmacy (usually a Meijer, until this all started when for some reason they became unreliable). So I can agree, get in where you can, and when you can, as long as you get in.
 
2021-12-06 8:55:25 PM  
Let me help you out here. This will never be implemented. It goes into effect 4 days before he leaves office. He's simply garnishing his bona fides for his gubernatorial run. "I put in place the most sweeping mandates in the country.... blah blah. Typical liberal bullshiat. He doesn't care that he's disrupting thousands of businesses. He's got his political future to think about.
 
2021-12-06 9:06:08 PM  

BigGrnEggGriller: Let me help you out here. This will never be implemented. It goes into effect 4 days before he leaves office. He's simply garnishing his bona fides for his gubernatorial run. "I put in place the most sweeping mandates in the country.... blah blah. Typical liberal bullshiat. He doesn't care that he's disrupting thousands of businesses. He's got his political future to think about.


The chances of him winning governor, or even the nod, are less than they were of him winning the nod running for president, which were hysterical at best.

DeBlasio is a grifter, he just is on the right side of some important issues and has a personal life that makes people uncomfortable calling him out on it.
 
2021-12-06 9:06:42 PM  
Good. Now every other blue state and city needs to follow.

This should have happened nine farking months ago, but bravo for doing the bare farking minimum guys.
 
2021-12-06 9:10:53 PM  

darinwil: Thanks for that, I forget that everyone does not have my same life experiences. I have the opposite situation, the family doctor is about an hour away and my kids are used to heading to the local pharmacy (usually a Meijer, until this all started when for some reason they became unreliable). So I can agree, get in where you can, and when you can, as long as you get in.


And please, if that is your best option for a shot, get it. I get my shots at CVS, or in the break room, or wherever they are doling them out that is convenient to me.

My kid is used to getting her shots at her doctors office. Thats what she is comfortable with, that is what a doctors visit is to her, and its not some weird thing. "Ok cool, I'm going to see Dr. Whatsamawitz.....guess i'm getting a shot, huh" vs....."hey, lets pop into CVS, I need a birthday card for grandma, and, oh, you are getting a shot"

Could she have been vaccinated a few days earlier? Sure. Probably. But then i'd have a 6 year old who was even more upset at shots and viewed them out of context who will eventually grow up.
 
2021-12-06 9:20:07 PM  

foo monkey: How long until not only the employee must be vaccinated, but his family/household members, as well?


if only
 
2021-12-06 9:21:03 PM  

Jeebus Saves: This will surely be the step that makes covid go away.  For real this time.


you're still here, so I guess not.
 
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