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(CNN)   The world has everything it needs to end the coronavirus pandemic, which would be great news except that it also has a whole lot of very stupid, selfish people   (cnn.com) divider line
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2021-12-06 3:30:43 PM  
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2021-12-06 3:32:11 PM  
I am so mother farking sick of these mother farking morans who can't get vaccinated to save their neighbors. I've stopped even pretending to be nice. When I hear someone say something that is even slightly anti-vax or sounds like some cockamamie conspiracy theory I just call them an idiot to their face. These people need to be shamed and shunned.
 
2021-12-06 3:38:25 PM  
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2021-12-06 3:55:23 PM  
There are 3 possible tactics for dealing with these people

1) try to reason with them ("So you believe your HS ed + Facebook research makes you smarter than almost all the world's medical experts?")

2) point and laugh and post memes such as above

3) take advantage of their stupidity/gullibilty https://www.thed​ailybeast.com/coronavi​rus-vaccination-reversal-fiends-love-t​his-wacky-treatment?
 
2021-12-06 4:21:50 PM  
We have the tools to end the pandemic, but we also have the tools who are trying to prolong it for political gain.

Such a conundrum.
 
2021-12-06 4:23:28 PM  
Stupid and selfish, yes.
But also malicious.
Sometimes they are just stupid, but sometimes it's intentional.
 
2021-12-06 4:24:00 PM  
Leper colonies were a thing in the past, why not COVID colonies for the dumbasses who prefer to not protect themselves and others. These people are like biological suicide bombers and should be treated as such
 
2021-12-06 4:24:16 PM  
...for example, there are people who have been vaccinated who push the antivax propaganda.
 
2021-12-06 4:24:42 PM  
"We're not good at dealing with global crises as a world -- we don't really have the infrastructure, or leadership, or accountability," she added.

In other words, our species sucks ass.
 
2021-12-06 4:27:00 PM  
Wait, there are still morans out there that think this is going away or can be stopped?  God damn, people are farking stupid.
 
2021-12-06 4:28:51 PM  
Let me take a wild guess, vaccines are the only answer.

Checks TFA. yep...
 
2021-12-06 4:30:03 PM  

Bruce the Deuce: Let me take a wild guess, vaccines are the only answer.

Checks TFA. yep...


You have a better solution?
 
2021-12-06 4:30:20 PM  

Jeebus Saves: Wait, there are still morans out there that think this is going away or can be stopped?  God damn, people are farking stupid.


Why is that stupid? The theory is that it will run its course like the Spanish Flu did and then stick around as a regular cold or flu.
 
2021-12-06 4:30:32 PM  

Bruce the Deuce: Let me take a wild guess, vaccines are the only answer.

Checks TFA. yep...


Let me take a wild guess, your answer is eating horse paste.
 
2021-12-06 4:31:48 PM  
I grew up in a pretty liberal mainstream Protestant church, and even after I walked away as an atheist, I still think a lot of the values I grew up with are worth sticking with.

In Matthew 25, all of the dead show up to be judged, and they get sent to hell if they were ungenerous, if they didn't help "the least of these" - the strangers who are naked, or sick, or in prison. We help the least of us because they are people and we deserve to be moral human beings, not because the least deserve it. We help the junkies, and the sick, because that is what we do.

I see all these conservative Christians lining up to scream that it's their freedom to not get vaccinated or wear masks - to not help the vulnerable - and it's just so unthinkably vile. If I'm right about atheism, they'll just die and the world will be rid of them. If they're right about believing in the Bible, they'll burn in hell forever with me.
 
2021-12-06 4:32:23 PM  
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2021-12-06 4:32:30 PM  
The last human will die in a ditch in the blasted-out hellscape future we are careening towards of F-ing COVID.
 
2021-12-06 4:32:30 PM  

AntiSane: Bruce the Deuce: Let me take a wild guess, vaccines are the only answer.

Checks TFA. yep...

You have a better solution?


I hear disinfectant wipes it out in like a minute...
 
2021-12-06 4:33:04 PM  

LimpDickRicky: Leper colonies were a thing in the past, why not COVID colonies for the dumbasses who prefer to not protect themselves and others. These people are like biological suicide bombers and should be treated as such


20% of Africa would refuse a vaccine. Hope you have a big camp.
 
2021-12-06 4:33:08 PM  
Every death after July 1, 2021 was 100% preventable thanks to science.
 
2021-12-06 4:34:32 PM  
To be fair, the selfish morons are being egged on the professional shiat stirrers and grifters.
 
2021-12-06 4:35:27 PM  

BigNumber12: LimpDickRicky: Leper colonies were a thing in the past, why not COVID colonies for the dumbasses who prefer to not protect themselves and others. These people are like biological suicide bombers and should be treated as such

20% of Africa would refuse a vaccine. Hope you have a big camp.


How is the business for your statistical operation that samples 54 countries with a score of languages across one huge continent? It must be good with the ability to pull such precise and significant statistics from your ass.
 
2021-12-06 4:36:27 PM  

tasteme: "We're not good at dealing with global crises as a world -- we don't really have the infrastructure, or leadership, or accountability," she added.

In other words, our species sucks ass.


Yup. We really don't deserve the Star Trek future of exploring different galaxies. We'll always be one step away from eating poo and boning our cousins until we finally drain the planet of resources and die off.
 
2021-12-06 4:36:32 PM  
Solution from day one of the vaccine roll out was making folks who refused to get vaccinated sign a form saying that they understand they'll not receive any medical care if they contract Covid 19. I'm really not sure why in one hand you can deny medical science and in the other ask to receive benefits from science when you get sick.

Assholes.
 
2021-12-06 4:36:32 PM  

Begoggle: Bruce the Deuce: Let me take a wild guess, vaccines are the only answer.

Checks TFA. yep...

Let me take a wild guess, your answer is eating horse paste.


There's no money in it.
 
2021-12-06 4:36:33 PM  

gonegirl: I grew up in a pretty liberal mainstream Protestant church, and even after I walked away as an atheist, I still think a lot of the values I grew up with are worth sticking with.

In Matthew 25, all of the dead show up to be judged, and they get sent to hell if they were ungenerous, if they didn't help "the least of these" - the strangers who are naked, or sick, or in prison. We help the least of us because they are people and we deserve to be moral human beings, not because the least deserve it. We help the junkies, and the sick, because that is what we do.

I see all these conservative Christians lining up to scream that it's their freedom to not get vaccinated or wear masks - to not help the vulnerable - and it's just so unthinkably vile. If I'm right about atheism, they'll just die and the world will be rid of them. If they're right about believing in the Bible, they'll burn in hell forever with me.


Honestly? If their god is real....one day they will have to explain why they did the exact opposite of what their god told them to do. Now...THAT in an encouraging thought.

/ But...Sunday School Jesus is for rubes and children. Supply Side Jesus is the real one.
 
2021-12-06 4:36:44 PM  
All those sci-fi stories I used to love, where the whole world puts aside their petty differences and comes together as one to fight some great threat, just don't land quite the same way any more.
 
2021-12-06 4:39:39 PM  

tasteme: "We're not good at dealing with global crises as a world -- we don't really have the infrastructure, or leadership, or accountability," she added.

In other words, our species sucks ass.


Yes.

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The real problem is we're not getting vaccines to the areas that need it. So we're just going to see hosts passing to more hosts and variants come along. It isn't going away, per se. Boosters for variants will just keep coming. Because spending the actual $$ on the infrastructure to roll out vaccination is just too much effort, or something. When really, it boils down to 'oh yeah, there's like billions of people who don't even have clean water nor a sanitary place to shiat. But lalala can't see them, don't think about them much.'

If course, up and down thread we'll see complaints about anti-vaxxers and their stupidity. But we will always have the willfully stupid around us on some level. And before in type this there already was one of these.
 
2021-12-06 4:40:38 PM  

Bruce the Deuce: Let me take a wild guess, vaccines are the only answer.

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See? There it is. Thank you for being my example.
 
2021-12-06 4:49:02 PM  
Unfortunately the world still permits right wingers. Despite that fact that they're an overarching threat to humanity wherever they're allowed to thrive.

farking idiotic morons. Here fark right wingers, here's your hero lady:

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2021-12-06 4:50:06 PM  

Bruce the Deuce: Let me take a wild guess, vaccines are the only answer.

Checks TFA. yep...


Yes. And we should have goon squads armed with vax guns hunting down the filth plague rats.
 
2021-12-06 4:52:48 PM  

gonegirl: I grew up in a pretty liberal mainstream Protestant church, and even after I walked away as an atheist, I still think a lot of the values I grew up with are worth sticking with.

In Matthew 25, all of the dead show up to be judged, and they get sent to hell if they were ungenerous, if they didn't help "the least of these" - the strangers who are naked, or sick, or in prison. We help the least of us because they are people and we deserve to be moral human beings, not because the least deserve it. We help the junkies, and the sick, because that is what we do.

I see all these conservative Christians lining up to scream that it's their freedom to not get vaccinated or wear masks - to not help the vulnerable - and it's just so unthinkably vile. If I'm right about atheism, they'll just die and the world will be rid of them. If they're right about believing in the Bible, they'll burn in hell forever with me.


I walked away agnostic* but still see the value in Mathew 25. And that was after my eyes being open on a mission trip to the shiattyness, hypocrisy, and lip service to the call for service in Mathew 25. Do i still do what I can? Yes. I try and i fail. But i can admit that i fail at being up to my potential.

*i have a hard time with absolutes. Why? I have 5 vague senses, a flawed memory system, and a fuzzy logic controller that gets things wrong all the time. The sum total of human knowledge about the universe is a drop of water in the ocean. I can admit that i just don't know. Im ok with that. There are a lot of things that I don't know, nor will probably ever know or be able to prove.
 
2021-12-06 4:54:54 PM  

neongoats: Unfortunately the world still permits right wingers. Despite that fact that they're an overarching threat to humanity wherever they're allowed to thrive.

farking idiotic morons. Here fark right wingers, here's your hero lady:

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That video popped up on my YouTube news suggestions, which kind of pissed me off.  None of my algorithm history should have suggested that would be something I would want to watch.

/Unless it was meant to mock her, in which case they chose a shiatty title/title card.
//Either way, not clicking it.
 
2021-12-06 4:57:06 PM  
The world has everything it needs to end the climate crisis, which would be great news except that it also has a whole lot of very stupid, selfish people

Yes, I noticed.  And a whole lot of them are fully vaccinated.

/But it's not MY behavior that's the problem.
 
2021-12-06 4:59:55 PM  

RTOGUY: Jeebus Saves: Wait, there are still morans out there that think this is going away or can be stopped?  God damn, people are farking stupid.

Why is that stupid? The theory is that it will run its course like the Spanish Flu did and then stick around as a regular cold or flu.


Yeah thats the point, it's not going away. It may become endemic instead of pandemic but it's here Ike the Flu forever
 
2021-12-06 5:13:58 PM  

RTOGUY: Jeebus Saves: Wait, there are still morans out there that think this is going away or can be stopped?  God damn, people are farking stupid.

Why is that stupid? The theory is that it will run its course like the Spanish Flu did and then stick around as a regular cold or flu.


Spanish Flu, or a regular cold/flu are respiratory illnesses.  COVID appears to be more of a vascular illness, given how much damage can be done to organs other than the lungs.

Yearly rounds of people getting sick then suffering strokes, renal failure, pancreatic failure (Congrats! You're now a lifelong diabetic!), liver failure, etc., doesn't sound like the "regular cold or flu" to me. Sounds more like polio before the vaccine.

There's no reason to believe it will become a seasonal illness, so folks would have to mask up and socially distance all the time. Failure to do so would create super-spreader events, and we're back to square one.

Finally, the longer it hangs around, the better chance it has to mutate into something with a lethality of 10-20%, versus the current 2-3%. Imagine the disruption of daily life if that happened.
 
2021-12-06 5:15:21 PM  

BigNumber12: LimpDickRicky: Leper colonies were a thing in the past, why not COVID colonies for the dumbasses who prefer to not protect themselves and others. These people are like biological suicide bombers and should be treated as such

20% of Africa would refuse a vaccine. Hope you have a big camp.


It's called "Africa".
 
2021-12-06 5:16:33 PM  
We also have the tools to fix income inequality and I don't see that one working out any time soon either.
 
2021-12-06 5:19:11 PM  
It might not be quite that simple, anymore.
 
2021-12-06 5:28:50 PM  

gonegirl: I grew up in a pretty liberal mainstream Protestant church, and even after I walked away as an atheist, I still think a lot of the values I grew up with are worth sticking with.

In Matthew 25, all of the dead show up to be judged, and they get sent to hell if they were ungenerous, if they didn't help "the least of these" - the strangers who are naked, or sick, or in prison. We help the least of us because they are people and we deserve to be moral human beings, not because the least deserve it. We help the junkies, and the sick, because that is what we do.

I see all these conservative Christians lining up to scream that it's their freedom to not get vaccinated or wear masks - to not help the vulnerable - and it's just so unthinkably vile. If I'm right about atheism, they'll just die and the world will be rid of them. If they're right about believing in the Bible, they'll burn in hell forever with me.


"If they're right about believing in the Bible, they'll burn in hell forever with me."

And both of your punishments will be having to listen to the other say "I told you so" for all eternity.
 
2021-12-06 5:30:39 PM  
All you really need to do is smack Jupiter into the earth hard enough, and COVID goes away permanently.  No animals, no bugs, not even a fully assembled covid cell left.

In book 3 of the series "We are many, we are Bob" (or something like that), two planets are smashed at a hair's breadth under light speed from the north and south poles of a star straight into its core, and the resulting explosion annihilates the entire system.

This is how you beat COVID.  And none of you are even TRYING.  You just keep coming up with excuses like 'lets do a vaccine, lets wear a mask, lets wait and see."  But I am.  It may take another few billion years, but you wait and see what happens.
 
2021-12-06 5:36:33 PM  

indy_kid: RTOGUY: Jeebus Saves: Wait, there are still morans out there that think this is going away or can be stopped?  God damn, people are farking stupid.

Why is that stupid? The theory is that it will run its course like the Spanish Flu did and then stick around as a regular cold or flu.

Spanish Flu, or a regular cold/flu are respiratory illnesses.  COVID appears to be more of a vascular illness, given how much damage can be done to organs other than the lungs.

Yearly rounds of people getting sick then suffering strokes, renal failure, pancreatic failure (Congrats! You're now a lifelong diabetic!), liver failure, etc., doesn't sound like the "regular cold or flu" to me. Sounds more like polio before the vaccine.

There's no reason to believe it will become a seasonal illness, so folks would have to mask up and socially distance all the time. Failure to do so would create super-spreader events, and we're back to square one.

Finally, the longer it hangs around, the better chance it has to mutate into something with a lethality of 10-20%, versus the current 2-3%. Imagine the disruption of daily life if that happened.


I'm always amused by the logic of "this started as a minor disease then suddenly evolved to be very fatal and incredibly contagious but somehow now it has to evolve to be less deadly."

Contrary to *exactly what happened to make the problem* let's choose to believe the opposite so we don't have to follow basic hygiene.
 
2021-12-06 5:42:17 PM  
Bertuccio:

Contrary to *exactly what happened to make the problem* let's choose to believe the opposite so we don't have to follow basic hygiene.

Less deadly is a strategy for survival in a host.  It gets a better chance to mutate if it can dwell and spread more easily.  I expect that to come BEFORE the 20% kill rate variant.  And we're making sure it has a chance to happen.  If it can spread all over with a high rate of mutation, eventually the right mutations will happen in a few places at nearly the same time, and suddenly flip to 'deadly as heck.'  I haven't heard of a deadly cold like that, but COVID has a companion called MERS that will wreck your shiat.  That's the combo I do not want to see.
 
2021-12-06 6:00:02 PM  

giantmeteor: I am so mother farking sick of these mother farking morans who can't get vaccinated to save their neighbors. I've stopped even pretending to be nice. When I hear someone say something that is even slightly anti-vax or sounds like some cockamamie conspiracy theory I just call them an idiot to their face. These people need to be shamed and shunned.


Username suggests there's something more you could be doing to help.
 
2021-12-06 6:32:59 PM  

thealgorerhythm: BigNumber12: LimpDickRicky: Leper colonies were a thing in the past, why not COVID colonies for the dumbasses who prefer to not protect themselves and others. These people are like biological suicide bombers and should be treated as such

20% of Africa would refuse a vaccine. Hope you have a big camp.

How is the business for your statistical operation that samples 54 countries with a score of languages across one huge continent? It must be good with the ability to pull such precise and significant statistics from your ass.


Poor you.

https://africacdc.org/download/covid-​1​9-vaccine-perceptions-a-15-country-stu​dy/

"Across the continent, 1-in-5 (18%) respondents say they would refuse a COVID-19 vaccine. When asked why, the most common response is a lack of trust in the vaccine. Some of these respondents do not trust vaccines in general, but others show specific distrust towards a COVID-19 vaccine For example, one comment from a respondent in Niger argued that, 'given the rumors that have been circulating, we cannot be certain that it will be good for us'.
 
2021-12-06 6:36:10 PM  

Petey4335: gonegirl: I grew up in a pretty liberal mainstream Protestant church, and even after I walked away as an atheist, I still think a lot of the values I grew up with are worth sticking with.

In Matthew 25, all of the dead show up to be judged, and they get sent to hell if they were ungenerous, if they didn't help "the least of these" - the strangers who are naked, or sick, or in prison. We help the least of us because they are people and we deserve to be moral human beings, not because the least deserve it. We help the junkies, and the sick, because that is what we do.

I see all these conservative Christians lining up to scream that it's their freedom to not get vaccinated or wear masks - to not help the vulnerable - and it's just so unthinkably vile. If I'm right about atheism, they'll just die and the world will be rid of them. If they're right about believing in the Bible, they'll burn in hell forever with me.

I walked away agnostic* but still see the value in Mathew 25. And that was after my eyes being open on a mission trip to the shiattyness, hypocrisy, and lip service to the call for service in Mathew 25. Do i still do what I can? Yes. I try and i fail. But i can admit that i fail at being up to my potential.

*i have a hard time with absolutes. Why? I have 5 vague senses, a flawed memory system, and a fuzzy logic controller that gets things wrong all the time. The sum total of human knowledge about the universe is a drop of water in the ocean. I can admit that i just don't know. Im ok with that. There are a lot of things that I don't know, nor will probably ever know or be able to prove.


I hear you. I respect that.

I decided on "atheist" because I realized if I went all the way down the rabbit hole, I could be agnostic about absolutely everything, and that was just too much.

I don't believe in a god to the same degree I don't believe Freddy Kreuger is behind me right no OH shiat
 
2021-12-06 6:51:37 PM  

DarwiOdrade: We have the tools to end the pandemic, but we also have the tools who are trying to prolong it for political gain.

Such a conundrum.


The entire premise of the article would require several political actions by multiple governments.  Requirements, mandates, etc.

Criticize them all you want, but you can't say people doing the opposite of all that are bringing politics to Covid.  They're doing the exact opposite of that
 
2021-12-06 6:58:32 PM  
If variants and anti-vaxxers are still raging by the time the Trumpublicans steal the midterm elections, the US is truly f**ked because a non-Democrat government will shut down all means of combating Covid because they think anything the sh*theads on Faux "News" say is the truth.

Vote Blue.
 
2021-12-06 7:14:38 PM  
A tribute site to the very stupid, selfish people.

They are all as stupid as they look.

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/
 
2021-12-06 7:22:20 PM  
Well in the stupid ole USA, this "my freedom" BS was tested over 100 years ago.

Jacobson vs Massachusetts, 1905, Justice John Marshall Harlan said...

in every well ordered society charged with the duty of conserving the safety of its members the rights of the individual in respect of his liberty may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand
 
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