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2021-12-06 9:41:07 AM  
How about you spend more time making ps5s available and less time trying to fark children?
 
2021-12-06 9:41:58 AM  
So if he doesn't get charged because of the vigilantes does he have a case for unlawful termination?

Would he risk being charged if he died?
 
2021-12-06 9:45:41 AM  
Yes, precisely what we need in the world are more groups of internet vigilantes teaming up to perform stings on people.
 
2021-12-06 9:48:38 AM  
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2021-12-06 9:49:38 AM  

mjbok: How about you spend more time making ps5s available and less time trying to fark children?


Here I thought that only making them available to scalpers was how they farked children.
 
2021-12-06 10:07:46 AM  

Gordon Bennett: mjbok: How about you spend more time making ps5s available and less time trying to fark children?

Here I thought that only making them available to scalpers was how they farked children.


True, but I'm talking a more literal farking
 
2021-12-06 10:23:01 AM  
Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."
 
2021-12-06 10:27:00 AM  

Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."


Given what's been uncovered about Ubisoft, Activision/Blizzard, Riot, etc I think people can be forgiven for expecting the "The boss knew all along" shoe to drop.
 
2021-12-06 10:33:26 AM  

Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."


ACK-SHUALLY, he was going to meet a *fifteen* year-old boy, so it is not technically pedophilia.

It is attempted child molestation.
 
2021-12-06 10:42:07 AM  

mjbok: How about you spend more time making ps5s available and less time trying to fark children?


How about they actually have good games for me to spend the money to buy a PS5?
 
2021-12-06 10:49:20 AM  

Dimensio: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

ACK-SHUALLY, he was going to meet a *fifteen* year-old boy, so it is not technically pedophilia.

It is attempted child molestation.


I've never understood why these people agree to sex acts in their texts. If someone is like "yeah I'm cumming over for teh sexy time" you just say "no, we're having ice cream." Ice cream is your code word. You never agree to a sexual act in writing. Then if they catch you you can just say "I never agreed to sex, I said we were having ice cream. That guy was the one talking about sex."

Yeah, it might not work for an official sting, but it would certainly be enough to offer a defense against a citizen vigilante group.
 
2021-12-06 10:51:38 AM  

Pocket Ninja: Yes, precisely what we need in the world are more groups of internet vigilantes teaming up to perform stings on people.


This bears repeating
 
2021-12-06 10:52:03 AM  

Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."


It's not a good look for any company to have a senior executive outed as a potential child molester, much less while wearing a logo branded shirt at the time.

If anything firing him immediately raises more flags because accusations made by internet vigilantes normally the company would announce that they were investigating into the matter. That they cut an executive that fast over online allegations and no crime committed seems like they knew he had issues.
 
2021-12-06 12:18:34 PM  

Lsherm: Dimensio: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

ACK-SHUALLY, he was going to meet a *fifteen* year-old boy, so it is not technically pedophilia.

It is attempted child molestation.

I've never understood why these people agree to sex acts in their texts. If someone is like "yeah I'm cumming over for teh sexy time" you just say "no, we're having ice cream." Ice cream is your code word. You never agree to a sexual act in writing. Then if they catch you you can just say "I never agreed to sex, I said we were having ice cream. That guy was the one talking about sex."

Yeah, it might not work for an official sting, but it would certainly be enough to offer a defense against a citizen vigilante group.


This guy pedos.
 
2021-12-06 12:37:23 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

It's not a good look for any company to have a senior executive outed as a potential child molester, much less while wearing a logo branded shirt at the time.

If anything firing him immediately raises more flags because accusations made by internet vigilantes normally the company would announce that they were investigating into the matter. That they cut an executive that fast over online allegations and no crime committed seems like they knew he had issues.


If they didn't fire him immediately you'd be complaining that they are covering for a pedo.
 
2021-12-06 12:48:36 PM  

OgreMagi: Lumbar Puncture: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

It's not a good look for any company to have a senior executive outed as a potential child molester, much less while wearing a logo branded shirt at the time.

If anything firing him immediately raises more flags because accusations made by internet vigilantes normally the company would announce that they were investigating into the matter. That they cut an executive that fast over online allegations and no crime committed seems like they knew he had issues.

If they didn't fire him immediately you'd be complaining that they are covering for a pedo.


Nah, I still would've made the T for Teen pic though.

Though I do think it's probably not good for companies to immediately fire people based on random internet vigilante investigations without further information. Which they may have.
 
2021-12-06 1:08:02 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

It's not a good look for any company to have a senior executive outed as a potential child molester, much less while wearing a logo branded shirt at the time.

If anything firing him immediately raises more flags because accusations made by internet vigilantes normally the company would announce that they were investigating into the matter. That they cut an executive that fast over online allegations and no crime committed seems like they knew he had issues.


Yep. Meet Sony's Jared Fogle.
 
2021-12-06 1:19:15 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

It's not a good look for any company to have a senior executive outed as a potential child molester, much less while wearing a logo branded shirt at the time.

If anything firing him immediately raises more flags because accusations made by internet vigilantes normally the company would announce that they were investigating into the matter. That they cut an executive that fast over online allegations and no crime committed seems like they knew he had issues.


AFAIK, Sony has always been a very conservative company, in relation to almost every aspect of the business. That this lead to an immediate termination doesn't surprise me at all.
 
2021-12-06 1:28:42 PM  
Is Sony HQ is a right-to-work jurisdiction?  They fired him for making them look bad, regardless of whether the guy is a pedo.   They don't legally need any other reason, most likely.
 
2021-12-06 2:20:39 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: OgreMagi: Lumbar Puncture: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

It's not a good look for any company to have a senior executive outed as a potential child molester, much less while wearing a logo branded shirt at the time.

If anything firing him immediately raises more flags because accusations made by internet vigilantes normally the company would announce that they were investigating into the matter. That they cut an executive that fast over online allegations and no crime committed seems like they knew he had issues.

If they didn't fire him immediately you'd be complaining that they are covering for a pedo.

Nah, I still would've made the T for Teen pic though.

Though I do think it's probably not good for companies to immediately fire people based on random internet vigilante investigations without further information. Which they may have.


According to reports, the video leaves no doubt.  Also, California is at will employment.  You can be fired for no reason at all.  Sony doesn't need to meet the same standards as a court trial to fire someone.  If it had been just an email accusing him of being a pedo without proof, then you would be making a valid point.
 
2021-12-06 3:38:35 PM  

OgreMagi: Lumbar Puncture: OgreMagi: Lumbar Puncture: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

It's not a good look for any company to have a senior executive outed as a potential child molester, much less while wearing a logo branded shirt at the time.

If anything firing him immediately raises more flags because accusations made by internet vigilantes normally the company would announce that they were investigating into the matter. That they cut an executive that fast over online allegations and no crime committed seems like they knew he had issues.

If they didn't fire him immediately you'd be complaining that they are covering for a pedo.

Nah, I still would've made the T for Teen pic though.

Though I do think it's probably not good for companies to immediately fire people based on random internet vigilante investigations without further information. Which they may have.

According to reports, the video leaves no doubt.  Also, California is at will employment.  You can be fired for no reason at all.  Sony doesn't need to meet the same standards as a court trial to fire someone.  If it had been just an email accusing him of being a pedo without proof, then you would be making a valid point.


I honestly don't know what point you think I'm making or arguing against. I've no problem with him being fired. I was just saying I'm surprised a Senior Vice President of a major company would be fired only based on an online video from some internet vigilantes of them pulling a Chris Hanson on him. Do they need more than that? Nope. shiat he's in a PS5 shirt linked to even the suggestion of it would be enough for most lower level employees. For a Senior VP?

Did Sony do anything wrong? Nope! They're entirely in the right to jettison that PR nightmare. Good for them.

Is it strange for a Senior VP at any company to be immediately fired based on internet vigilantism without further investigation or corroboration? Absolutely. Which is why I said maybe they knew he had issues. Senior executives get vetted.

Did Sony need to do any follow up investigation before firing him? Not at all, and they also don't need to care if I think that's weird or not, they solved the problem on their end.
 
2021-12-06 4:54:13 PM  

Lsherm: Dimensio: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

ACK-SHUALLY, he was going to meet a *fifteen* year-old boy, so it is not technically pedophilia.

It is attempted child molestation.

I've never understood why these people agree to sex acts in their texts. If someone is like "yeah I'm cumming over for teh sexy time" you just say "no, we're having ice cream." Ice cream is your code word. You never agree to a sexual act in writing. Then if they catch you you can just say "I never agreed to sex, I said we were having ice cream. That guy was the one talking about sex."

Yeah, it might not work for an official sting, but it would certainly be enough to offer a defense against a citizen vigilante group.


I'm not convinced it would work against them. The problem is if you're a senior exec at Sony there is zero chance anyone is going to believe you had a legitimate reason for giving a random teen your address. You could say it was for ice cream. 'I invite teens over for ice cream...what? I'm supposed to eat alone?" doesn't sound any better than just inviting them over for sex. Either way you're going down, just not the way you hoped,
 
2021-12-06 7:14:25 PM  

Rwa2play: mjbok: How about you spend more time making ps5s available and less time trying to fark children?

How about they actually have good games for me to spend the money to buy a PS5?


There's Ratchet and Clank, and....um....hmm.... oh, Ratchet and Clank is pretty good too.
 
2021-12-06 7:53:46 PM  

mjbok: How about you spend more time making ps5s available and less time trying to fark children?


Button 1: Produce more PS5 consoles
Button 2: Fark less children

*wipes sweat from brow
 
2021-12-06 8:23:00 PM  
So, just for the record, we are saying it's right that Sony fired him and that we all agree pedophila and child molestation is bad?
 
2021-12-06 8:55:14 PM  

Lsherm: Dimensio: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

ACK-SHUALLY, he was going to meet a *fifteen* year-old boy, so it is not technically pedophilia.

It is attempted child molestation.

I've never understood why these people agree to sex acts in their texts. If someone is like "yeah I'm cumming over for teh sexy time" you just say "no, we're having ice cream." Ice cream is your code word. You never agree to a sexual act in writing. Then if they catch you you can just say "I never agreed to sex, I said we were having ice cream. That guy was the one talking about sex."

Yeah, it might not work for an official sting, but it would certainly be enough to offer a defense against a citizen vigilante group.


How would you establish that code word, though?  If someone's running a sting on you, they're going to document the conversation you had where you established "ice cream" means sex.  Maybe you get lucky, and somehow they forget to document the part where you establish the code, but most likely, you only added one very easy extra step to showing intent.
 
2021-12-06 9:02:07 PM  

AdrienVeidt: Lsherm: Dimensio: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

ACK-SHUALLY, he was going to meet a *fifteen* year-old boy, so it is not technically pedophilia.

It is attempted child molestation.

I've never understood why these people agree to sex acts in their texts. If someone is like "yeah I'm cumming over for teh sexy time" you just say "no, we're having ice cream." Ice cream is your code word. You never agree to a sexual act in writing. Then if they catch you you can just say "I never agreed to sex, I said we were having ice cream. That guy was the one talking about sex."

Yeah, it might not work for an official sting, but it would certainly be enough to offer a defense against a citizen vigilante group.

This guy pedos.


Look, if 40 years of watching mob shows and mob movies has taught me anything, it's that you NEVER SPELL OUT THE CRIME YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT!

I just rewatched the Sopranos and they never said anything on the phone that could be held against them. After they killed Big Pussy, he was referred to as "our friend that went swimming that one time." At no point were they like "You know, the guy we shot and dumped off the back of the boat." Even the marijuana dealers in places where it's legal don't call it by its given name. It's always "kush flower" or something stupid like that. Old habits die hard, I guess.
 
2021-12-06 9:09:35 PM  

uknesvuinng: Lsherm: Dimensio: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

ACK-SHUALLY, he was going to meet a *fifteen* year-old boy, so it is not technically pedophilia.

It is attempted child molestation.

I've never understood why these people agree to sex acts in their texts. If someone is like "yeah I'm cumming over for teh sexy time" you just say "no, we're having ice cream." Ice cream is your code word. You never agree to a sexual act in writing. Then if they catch you you can just say "I never agreed to sex, I said we were having ice cream. That guy was the one talking about sex."

Yeah, it might not work for an official sting, but it would certainly be enough to offer a defense against a citizen vigilante group.

How would you establish that code word, though?  If someone's running a sting on you, they're going to document the conversation you had where you established "ice cream" means sex.  Maybe you get lucky, and somehow they forget to document the part where you establish the code, but most likely, you only added one very easy extra step to showing intent.


You never establish it. You hint at it, but you never explicitly say it. If the other side of the call says "I thought we were talking about sex" you stick to your ice cream story. You answer the door with ice cream in your hand. If it's a vigilante group, you have deniability. Obviously, I am not a lawyer, but I have YEARS of TV watching experience. I feel this has made me an expert on rule #1: Never explicitly say how you are going to break the law.

I watched To Catch a Predator when it was on, and these people just handed themselves over. Someone would send them a text message like "I'm 14 and UR cute!" and in response they'd get emails of dick pics, home addresses, kinks the people liked in addition to farking children, and any number of other mistakes up to and including graphic voice conversations of what they were going to do when they met up with a minor. Some of them even double-checked their victim's age, FFS.

It was almost like deer hunting at night with a spotlight.
 
2021-12-06 9:42:55 PM  

Lsherm: AdrienVeidt: Lsherm: Dimensio: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

ACK-SHUALLY, he was going to meet a *fifteen* year-old boy, so it is not technically pedophilia.

It is attempted child molestation.

I've never understood why these people agree to sex acts in their texts. If someone is like "yeah I'm cumming over for teh sexy time" you just say "no, we're having ice cream." Ice cream is your code word. You never agree to a sexual act in writing. Then if they catch you you can just say "I never agreed to sex, I said we were having ice cream. That guy was the one talking about sex."

Yeah, it might not work for an official sting, but it would certainly be enough to offer a defense against a citizen vigilante group.

This guy pedos.

Look, if 40 years of watching mob shows and mob movies has taught me anything, it's that you NEVER SPELL OUT THE CRIME YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT!

I just rewatched the Sopranos and they never said anything on the phone that could be held against them. After they killed Big Pussy, he was referred to as "our friend that went swimming that one time." At no point were they like "You know, the guy we shot and dumped off the back of the boat." Even the marijuana dealers in places where it's legal don't call it by its given name. It's always "kush flower" or something stupid like that. Old habits die hard, I guess.


I did hear about this one guy...

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2021-12-06 9:49:38 PM  

Dimensio: I did hear about this one guy...


Oh, the Wire! Another great example of rule #1!
 
2021-12-06 10:08:50 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: OgreMagi: Lumbar Puncture: OgreMagi: Lumbar Puncture: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

It's not a good look for any company to have a senior executive outed as a potential child molester, much less while wearing a logo branded shirt at the time.

If anything firing him immediately raises more flags because accusations made by internet vigilantes normally the company would announce that they were investigating into the matter. That they cut an executive that fast over online allegations and no crime committed seems like they knew he had issues.

If they didn't fire him immediately you'd be complaining that they are covering for a pedo.

Nah, I still would've made the T for Teen pic though.

Though I do think it's probably not good for companies to immediately fire people based on random internet vigilante investigations without further information. Which they may have.

According to reports, the video leaves no doubt.  Also, California is at will employment.  You can be fired for no reason at all.  Sony doesn't need to meet the same standards as a court trial to fire someone.  If it had been just an email accusing him of being a pedo without proof, then you would be making a valid point.

I honestly don't know what point you think I'm making or arguing against. I've no problem with him being fired. I was just saying I'm surprised a Senior Vice President of a major company would be fired only based on an online video from some internet vigilantes of them pulling a Chris Hanson on him. Do they need more than that? Nope. shiat he's in a PS5 shirt linked to even the suggestion of it would be enough for most lower level employees. For a Senior VP?

Did Sony do anything wrong? Nope! They're entirely in the right to jettison that PR nightmare. Good for them.

Is it strange for a Senior VP at any company to be immediately fired based on internet vigilantism without further investigation or corroboration? Absolutely. Which is why I said maybe they knew he had issues. Senior executives get vetted.

Did Sony need to do any follow up investigation before firing him? Not at all, and they also don't need to care if I think that's weird or not, they solved the problem on their end.


Senior executives get vetted how?  Unless he already had a molester record, what exactly gets 'vetted'?
 
2021-12-06 10:18:29 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Is it strange for a Senior VP at any company to be immediately fired based on internet vigilantism without further investigation or corroboration? Absolutely.


These days? No. It's based mostly on how much money you generate for the company, and even then, you can fall from power pretty quick. You are correct in that it's not usually a one-off, it's just something like this that pushes the collective over the edge. So he probably didn't have a litany of child sex charges against him, but probably other complaints or just a general sense of "not a good employee."

This happens all the time in the executive world. Not the pedophile part, but the one act that seemingly comes out of nowhere and pushes the executive out. What's actually happening is that the company is already looking for a reason to push the executive out, and they'll take the first good excuse. For executives/stars they want to keep because they bring in money, they will slow-walk an investigation. See: Chris Cuomo, whoever the hell is in charge of Activision, Elizabeth Holmes.
 
2021-12-06 10:34:35 PM  

Lsherm: Lumbar Puncture: Is it strange for a Senior VP at any company to be immediately fired based on internet vigilantism without further investigation or corroboration? Absolutely.

These days? No. It's based mostly on how much money you generate for the company, and even then, you can fall from power pretty quick. You are correct in that it's not usually a one-off, it's just something like this that pushes the collective over the edge. So he probably didn't have a litany of child sex charges against him, but probably other complaints or just a general sense of "not a good employee."

This happens all the time in the executive world. Not the pedophile part, but the one act that seemingly comes out of nowhere and pushes the executive out. What's actually happening is that the company is already looking for a reason to push the executive out, and they'll take the first good excuse. For executives/stars they want to keep because they bring in money, they will slow-walk an investigation. See: Chris Cuomo, whoever the hell is in charge of Activision, Elizabeth Holmes.


Well yeah, that's my point. That they might've already had reasons to want to dump him. Whether he was a suspected creep or just kept eating lunches with someone else's name on them out of the fridge

Didn't say they knew he was a pedo just that it was weird to cut bait so quick on a senior VP.

Didn't expect that to be so controversial
 
2021-12-06 10:40:53 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Didn't say they knew he was a pedo just that it was weird to cut bait so quick on a senior VP.


It's normally a collection of reasons that cause the company to lose faith, not just one. Then there's a tiebreaker, like in this case.

Sometimes there isn't a tiebreaker, things just build up until board members or shareholders aren't willing to support the executive.
 
2021-12-06 10:48:48 PM  

Lsherm: Lumbar Puncture: Didn't say they knew he was a pedo just that it was weird to cut bait so quick on a senior VP.

It's normally a collection of reasons that cause the company to lose faith, not just one. Then there's a tiebreaker, like in this case.

Sometimes there isn't a tiebreaker, things just build up until board members or shareholders aren't willing to support the executive.


Well this one is a helluva tie breaker
 
2021-12-06 11:02:03 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Well this one is a helluva tie breaker


Honestly, it could have been a DUI, or stealing a turkey at Walmart. Anything that got national news. This is literally the worst of the tiebreakers - a pedophile.
 
2021-12-06 11:43:45 PM  

Lsherm: Lumbar Puncture: Well this one is a helluva tie breaker

Honestly, it could have been a DUI, or stealing a turkey at Walmart. Anything that got national news. This is literally the worst of the tiebreakers - a pedophile.


But I bet if they were waiting for a reason someone in HR was like ohhhhh daaaaaaamn we got one
 
2021-12-07 12:00:32 AM  

Lumbar Puncture: Lsherm: Lumbar Puncture: Well this one is a helluva tie breaker

Honestly, it could have been a DUI, or stealing a turkey at Walmart. Anything that got national news. This is literally the worst of the tiebreakers - a pedophile.

But I bet if they were waiting for a reason someone in HR was like ohhhhh daaaaaaamn we got one


Yeah, but you need a company that reaches HR department criticality. Company has to be big enough for that to happen.
 
2021-12-07 1:24:23 AM  
"Yeahh, that's not a good look for Sony, the PS5, or former SVP "Jeff." Not a good look at all"

No. Not a good look at all.

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2021-12-07 3:07:24 AM  
Lumbar Puncture:

Most logical reasoning.
 
2021-12-07 3:08:45 AM  
rjakobi:

I believe that's the consensus.

I just think the debate is will it cost Sony anything for letting him go.
 
2021-12-07 3:10:48 AM  
Lsherm:

Anyone else in the mood for afgan sleepytime tea?
 
2021-12-07 8:40:31 AM  

Lsherm: AdrienVeidt: Lsherm: Dimensio: Myrkor: Did I miss how this is bad for Sony that they fired him immediately? Sure, having him show up in a PS5 shirt isn't great, but it's not like they refused to fire him or put him in charge of child safety on PSN.  Do they need to put out a statement that says "Pedos are bad, m'kay."

ACK-SHUALLY, he was going to meet a *fifteen* year-old boy, so it is not technically pedophilia.

It is attempted child molestation.

I've never understood why these people agree to sex acts in their texts. If someone is like "yeah I'm cumming over for teh sexy time" you just say "no, we're having ice cream." Ice cream is your code word. You never agree to a sexual act in writing. Then if they catch you you can just say "I never agreed to sex, I said we were having ice cream. That guy was the one talking about sex."

Yeah, it might not work for an official sting, but it would certainly be enough to offer a defense against a citizen vigilante group.

This guy pedos.

Look, if 40 years of watching mob shows and mob movies has taught me anything, it's that you NEVER SPELL OUT THE CRIME YOU'RE GOING TO COMMIT!

I just rewatched the Sopranos and they never said anything on the phone that could be held against them. After they killed Big Pussy, he was referred to as "our friend that went swimming that one time." At no point were they like "You know, the guy we shot and dumped off the back of the boat." Even the marijuana dealers in places where it's legal don't call it by its given name. It's always "kush flower" or something stupid like that. Old habits die hard, I guess.


I know you are old because "kush flower" isn't slang for anything- Kush is a type of marijuana originally from India, and flower means dry herb as opposed to extracts like oil or wax. Most young smokers don't even smoke herb anymore, extracts are very popular, hence calling it flower.
 
2021-12-07 2:43:56 PM  

AuralArgument: rjakobi:

I believe that's the consensus.

I just think the debate is will it cost Sony anything for letting him go.


That would depend on the contract.  Large corporations often have a clause that the fired person gets nothing if their actions are detrimental to the image of the corporation.  Then lawyers get involved and they go to court.   On the other hand, if the corporate officer ends up in prison, there's little chance they could argue against a zero compensation severance.
 
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