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2021-12-06 11:20:49 AM  
$70k to work in SF is about as hilarious as $70k to work in Manhattan.
 
2021-12-06 12:44:16 PM  
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/$70K in SF?
 
2021-12-06 12:46:33 PM  
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2021-12-06 1:12:41 PM  
Gee lets figure this out


Being a food chain assistant manager means 50 hour weeks minimum, doing everyones job when they wont because they have their nose in the phone, having a boss who blames you for everything, and to top it off you are paying for shiat in your area. Sure 70k would get you a lot in most other cities in the country, but not in an overpriced shiathole
 
2021-12-06 1:29:30 PM  
Glassdoor says a restaurant assistant manager salary should be $50k-$70k.  In San Francisco....no wonder people are shiatting on the street.
 
2021-12-06 1:41:41 PM  
So they want an area manage for a chain in  SF, like in city proper, not east bay.

And the they offer $70k a year, which means they will have to likely live somewhere no less than about 1.5-2 hours away(in good traffic), and most surely on the east bay side of things. Making for a costly and lengthy into the city commute.

Additionally as an area manager, they will be needing to get around to all the locations. IS a car provided or does that also come out of the $70k? parking, in the city? Hows that working out, you got a provided spot at the locators are you paying parking tickets? Or did you imagine the area manager walks .5-1 mile from parking to store several times a day as they visit stores?

Or did you imagine your area manager was going bart/bus around for all that and not be able to make any supply runs for any store ever? And also add several more hours of commute time to the work day that pays $70k a year?
 
2021-12-06 1:45:49 PM  
This restaurant has two locations; my guess is that larger fast food and coffee chains can not only match this salary - probably pay a bit more - but that they also offer way better benefits.
 
2021-12-06 1:47:18 PM  

koder: $70k to work in SF is about as hilarious as $70k to work in Manhattan.


Well, how much does one need to live in SF then?

/ $70K sounds pretty good to me...and I live in a high-end area.
 
2021-12-06 1:47:25 PM  

lifeslammer: Gee lets figure this out


Being a food chain assistant manager means 50 hour weeks minimum, doing everyones job when they wont because they have their nose in the phone, having a boss who blames you for everything, and to top it off you are paying for shiat in your area. Sure 70k would get you a lot in most other cities in the country, but not in an overpriced shiathole


Yep, I got out of management once the company was expecting me to be available 24/7.  Yes, they were paying me well for 40 hours, but the same amount for 168 hours?  Nope, not happening hoss.

I'm just a little peon now, and make the same as before, but only work about 22 hours a week.  Had to change jobs, but it was so worth it.
 
2021-12-06 1:49:27 PM  

PvtStash: So they want an area manage for a chain in  SF, like in city proper, not east bay.


The article is vague on details. They have two locations; one is in SOMA and the other Oakland.
 
2021-12-06 1:54:49 PM  

lifeslammer: Gee lets figure this out... 70k would get you a lot in most other cities in the country, but not in an overpriced shiathole


If you're calling San Francisco "an overpriced sh*thole" you've got A LOT of things to "figure out."
 
2021-12-06 2:00:07 PM  

koder: $70k to work in Manhattan


It's doable IF you have roommates, don't need a lot of personal space and/or do not live in Manhattan.
 
2021-12-06 2:16:40 PM  

damageddude: koder: $70k to work in Manhattan

It's doable IF you have roommates, don't need a lot of personal space and/or do not live in Manhattan.


That's why i Like life out in the country.  I don't need a starbucks on every corner, or a boutique to cater to overpriced whims I didn't know I had.  Peace, quiet, solitude, and being able to see the stars at night.  Not just "the star" (As in the only one people in the city can see at night)
 
2021-12-06 2:36:19 PM  

koder: $70k to work in SF is about as hilarious as $70k to work in Manhattan.


I take it on of the benefits is to take as many pizza boxes as one needs to construct that dream SF alleyway shack.
 
2021-12-06 2:36:24 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: lifeslammer: Gee lets figure this out... 70k would get you a lot in most other cities in the country, but not in an overpriced shiathole

If you're calling San Francisco "an overpriced sh*thole" you've got A LOT of things to "figure out."


3100 is the average rent for 750 square feet

Its an overpriced shiathole
 
2021-12-06 2:36:49 PM  

thornhill: PvtStash: So they want an area manage for a chain in  SF, like in city proper, not east bay.

The article is vague on details. They have two locations; one is in SOMA and the other Oakland.


yeah i noticed this, but when the headline declares a chain an SF chain, then it surely seems safe to assume this is at least where they originate and so likely have the densest pack of locations.

Anyone from the area here, would not say SF specifically unless they explicitly meant in the city proper.
You got to go to San Jose to find people that like to pretend everything from the city all the way to them is just one big "bay area" label to be in.

meanwhile people right in the bay zone and people in the city, do not see it this way, that's The City, and this is The Bay.
And we are not really one are of the same place, that bridge and toll makes all the difference between us.

What a BS headline if they really do not have in city locations as their actual bulk of locations the way they make it sound.
 
2021-12-06 2:48:43 PM  

Barricaded Gunman: lifeslammer: Gee lets figure this out... 70k would get you a lot in most other cities in the country, but not in an overpriced shiathole

If you're calling San Francisco "an overpriced sh*thole" you've got A LOT of things to "figure out."


Yeah, San Francisco has some fairly high elevations (a couple points over 900 feet above sea level!).  It's clearly a shiathill, not a shiathole.
 
2021-12-06 2:54:26 PM  
Full time = 40 hours a week x 52 weeks = 2,080 hours

24/7 availability = 24 hours a day x 365 days = 8,760 hours

8,760 / 2,080 = 4.21x full time hours

Don't tell people a job is only 'full time' if you expect 24/7 availability.

And pay for it, you greedy pigs!

"Are they actually working those hours?"  No, perhaps not. But they're limited in what they can do in those hours because you might call them. 24/7 availability should pay at least twice what a 40 hour job pays, because we all know they're working more than 40 hours a week.
 
2021-12-06 2:56:14 PM  

thornhill: This restaurant has two locations; my guess is that larger fast food and coffee chains can not only match this salary - probably pay a bit more - but that they also offer way better benefits.


Yet businesses aren't clamoring to tell the government to make healthcare universally accessible. It would save them so much money. And yet.
 
2021-12-06 2:59:03 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Full time = 40 hours a week x 52 weeks = 2,080 hours

24/7 availability = 24 hours a day x 365 days = 8,760 hours

8,760 / 2,080 = 4.21x full time hours

Don't tell people a job is only 'full time' if you expect 24/7 availability.

And pay for it, you greedy pigs!

"Are they actually working those hours?"  No, perhaps not. But they're limited in what they can do in those hours because you might call them. 24/7 availability should pay at least twice what a 40 hour job pays, because we all know they're working more than 40 hours a week.


I've had people try to pay me less when they use fewer hours than I was contracted for. That is always the argument I make:  if you schedule me for rehearsal 7-10 every day and then you only use me half those days, you still owe me for the rest, because, while you might not have used me during those hours, I'm not free to use those hours to seek other gainful employment. You are essentially keeping me on retainer at that point.

If you don't want to pay me for hours I don't work, then get better about how you schedule me.
 
2021-12-06 3:00:39 PM  
In fact, one of the stipulations put into my last contract with my choir was that early dismissal will no longer result in prorating my pay. They are obligated to pay me for whatever time they contracted me for, whether or not they end up using it that day.
 
2021-12-06 3:20:05 PM  
Here's the money quote of a lying owner: Stoller said he advertised the position in November 2020 and didn't receive any applications from a qualified candidate.
 
2021-12-06 3:29:42 PM  

PickleBarrel: Here's the money quote of a lying owner: Stoller said he advertised the position in November 2020 and didn't receive any applications from a qualified candidate.


That right there. I wonder what their qualifications were that no one met them.
 
2021-12-06 3:35:25 PM  
It's San Francisco. They might have more luck posting a job listing with the abbreviation Ass. Manager.

/sorry
 
2021-12-06 3:43:03 PM  

austerity101: PickleBarrel: Here's the money quote of a lying owner: Stoller said he advertised the position in November 2020 and didn't receive any applications from a qualified candidate.

That right there. I wonder what their qualifications were that no one met them.


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Probably something like this..
 
2021-12-06 4:34:08 PM  
I'm still confused on the "had to give up" part. Did he stop needing an assistant manager? Maybe trying to hire a full-time job over the holidays is a bad time. Maybe you let that run for a good while. I work in IT and even with decent paying positions, we can go weeks without getting applicants. Granted, it's also a big company and our HR people filter a lot out. Regardless, if you need to fill that position, you don't give up. If you do give up, then clearly it wasn't that important.

My guess is that he wasn't prepared to offer any more money or any other kind of benefits. People saw it as a shiat job immediately and did the smart thing and ignored it. If  it was a critical position, you keep adding until you start seeing people apply.
 
2021-12-06 4:35:00 PM  

89 Stick-Up Kid: austerity101: PickleBarrel: Here's the money quote of a lying owner: Stoller said he advertised the position in November 2020 and didn't receive any applications from a qualified candidate.

That right there. I wonder what their qualifications were that no one met them.

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Probably something like this..


Like the job "opportunity" that was sent to me a week or so ago.

MBA
Two years industry experience.
$22 an hour.
 
2021-12-06 4:37:00 PM  

WhackingDay: I'm still confused on the "had to give up" part. Did he stop needing an assistant manager? Maybe trying to hire a full-time job over the holidays is a bad time. Maybe you let that run for a good while. I work in IT and even with decent paying positions, we can go weeks without getting applicants. Granted, it's also a big company and our HR people filter a lot out. Regardless, if you need to fill that position, you don't give up. If you do give up, then clearly it wasn't that important.

My guess is that he wasn't prepared to offer any more money or any other kind of benefits. People saw it as a shiat job immediately and did the smart thing and ignored it. If  it was a critical position, you keep adding until you start seeing people apply.


The article did mention that eventually they gave up looking for an "assistant" manager and started looking for a "general" manager instead. It's almost as though potential employers see the term "assistant manager" as indicative of a thankless, punishing job not worth the money at any wage level, and they're certainly not wrong.
 
2021-12-06 4:37:15 PM  
Potential *employees, rather.
 
2021-12-06 7:18:27 PM  

lifeslammer: Barricaded Gunman: lifeslammer: Gee lets figure this out... 70k would get you a lot in most other cities in the country, but not in an overpriced shiathole

If you're calling San Francisco "an overpriced sh*thole" you've got A LOT of things to "figure out."

3100 is the average rent for 750 square feet

Its an overpriced shiathole


"You know how much more house you'd get for that much money in MY hometown?"

Pffft.
 
2021-12-06 8:40:58 PM  

damageddude: koder: $70k to work in Manhattan

It's doable IF you have roommates, don't need a lot of personal space and/or do not live in Manhattan.


Fix up a spot in the storage room.  No commute!
 
2021-12-06 9:37:40 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: 89 Stick-Up Kid: austerity101: PickleBarrel: Here's the money quote of a lying owner: Stoller said he advertised the position in November 2020 and didn't receive any applications from a qualified candidate.

That right there. I wonder what their qualifications were that no one met them.

[Fark user image 422x750]
Probably something like this..

Like the job "opportunity" that was sent to me a week or so ago.

MBA
Two years industry experience.
$22 an hour.


I feel ya.  I have 16 years experience and the job search after my covid layoff was painful.  I passed on many jobs.
 
2021-12-06 11:15:06 PM  
"After two months, Stoller said he changed the role to a general manager position."

In other words, they always needed a general manager but decided to start out by low-balling the position to see if any suckers would come in as an assistant manager. The person hired was always going to have the duties of a general manager, either explicitly stated in the job description or just shoehorned in later as "other job duties as assigned."
 
2021-12-07 2:35:53 AM  
Compensation should be capped for all positions at the minimum wage, which should be $35/hr. Apply it to sole proprietors as well. Failure to comply results in the liquidation of 4 generations of the family. Require all imported or exported goods to pay their workers on the same scale. Problem solved, along with the trade deficit.
 
2021-12-07 2:36:34 AM  

farkalt: Compensation should be capped for all positions at the minimum wage, which should be $35/hr. Apply it to sole proprietors as well. Failure to comply results in the liquidation of 4 generations of the family. Require all imported or exported goods to pay their workers on the same scale. Problem solved, along with the trade deficit.


Pair with compulsory employment for maximum equity.
 
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