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(New Zealand Herald)   Those silly Kiwis are reporting that South African hospitals are filled with children exhibiting moderate to severe coronavirus symptoms. It's a good thing we know that Omicron is the mildest mild to ever mild or we would be mildly farked   (nzherald.co.nz) divider line
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2021-12-06 9:58:36 AM  
"The very young children have an immature immune system and they are also not vaccinated, so they are more at risk."

It's mild if you are vaccinated. if you are not vaccinated then it's not so mild.
 
2021-12-06 10:38:35 AM  
"Kiwis?"

"Forget it, he's rolling."
 
2021-12-06 10:39:14 AM  
Mild to the vaccinated when it breaks through.
 
2021-12-06 10:39:36 AM  
What's this about Chinese Gooseberries?
 
2021-12-06 10:40:32 AM  
I'm surprised these mutations didn't target children earlier. I'm no GED in virology, but I suspect ease of transmission among children is the goal of every ambitious virus. Because children are natural disease catapults.
 
2021-12-06 10:43:51 AM  
Another small slice of information. Worth our attention and study but the full picture of this new strain isn't yet known.

We are fortunate when these strains first appear elsewhere, giving us an observer's advantage at the startup.
 
2021-12-06 10:44:20 AM  

August11: I'm surprised these mutations didn't target children earlier. I'm no GED in virology, but I suspect ease of transmission among children is the goal of every ambitious virus. Because children are natural disease catapults.


It's more effective if the children can drive and gather in large groups.

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2021-12-06 10:44:40 AM  
"No one could have seen this coming."

Narrator voice: Everyone paying attention saw this coming.
 
2021-12-06 10:45:02 AM  
In the U.S., these will be the woke voters of the future, so... SQUIRREL!
 
2021-12-06 10:45:38 AM  
Now, now, lets just wait until we've got some blocked youtube videos that say the opposite is happening and it's only the vaccinated before we start sucking our own dicks.
 
2021-12-06 10:45:51 AM  
"It's not yet clear if they both had the Omicron variant."

Cue President Madagascar
 
d23 [OhFark]
2021-12-06 10:45:57 AM  
but... a loud orange-skinned man told me that this doesn't affect children AT ALL.  You don't think "rich" businessmen lie, to you?
 
2021-12-06 10:46:52 AM  

August11: I'm surprised these mutations didn't target children earlier. I'm no GED in virology, but I suspect ease of transmission among children is the goal of every ambitious virus. Because children are natural disease catapults.


Children handle most viruses better. They have more immune b cells to right with. The idea is for them to get most of the 'childhood illnesses' out of the way while they're still children, and become immune to them by the time they're adults and lose some of their b cells.
 
2021-12-06 10:47:06 AM  
Liked that some African officials were accusing the West of "hoarding the vaccine" when we all know that even if Africa were given mass access to the vaccine the first ones on-line would've been every multi-millionaire and government officials from every African nation while the poor would've been left to fend for themselves.
 
2021-12-06 10:47:10 AM  
But they didn't die, right?

Because who cares if they get covid? They'll most likely survive, right? Stupid media being all sensational.

/i hope your sarcasm is working.
//the long term health problems associated with covid for these kids is going to be scary.
 
2021-12-06 10:47:22 AM  
Better ban travel from 6 more countries that have no reported cases but lots of black people.
 
2021-12-06 10:48:42 AM  
(Yells cloud of obscenities) I just want to slap my idiot sister in law (pregnant! in Idaho!) and her moron husband even more for being such stubborn assholes about this. Of course the won't vaccinate their 5 year old son either.
 
2021-12-06 10:50:12 AM  
So these are Children of the 'Cron?
 
2021-12-06 10:51:04 AM  

Rwa2play: Liked that some African officials were accusing the West of "hoarding the vaccine" when we all know that even if Africa were given mass access to the vaccine the first ones on-line would've been every multi-millionaire and government officials from every African nation while the poor would've been left to fend for themselves.


Who do you think would get vaccinated after the rich people are done?
 
2021-12-06 10:51:12 AM  
Those silly Kiwis are carefully vetting stories and making sure we're just not spreading anecdotes around, right? Because they're not in South Africa, they're REPORTING ON A GODDAMN TWITTER POST.
 
2021-12-06 10:52:12 AM  

T-Boy: ...We are fortunate when these strains first appear elsewhere, giving us an observer's advantage at the startup.


It also underlines the risk of letting the undeveloped world fall behind with vaccine programs.  Virus mutation and spread is far more rapid in unvaccinated populations, ergo, if we think of vaccinations as a local issue (as we do currently) we will continue to get blindsided by these variants.

The earlier hullabaloo over not pushing boosters while the third world was largely unvaccinated soon got politically suppressed because that's not how you win votes.  Now we see a classic risk of forgetting just how "global" a pandemic truly is these days.

Of course there are supply problems, vaccine aversion and a general apathy in some of these countries, but that's why they need help get the numbers up.  All those people who quote the stats showing they have plenty of vaccines, but they just wont take them, are also the people who know every homeless beggar secretly drives a BMW 5 series and lives in a mansion.
 
2021-12-06 10:55:29 AM  
If it's significantly more contagious, it could be sending a lot of people to the hospital and at the same time milder for most of the infected on average.

This is what "flattening the curve" was about.  If X% of people infected need hospitalization, then a larger number of infected will overwhelm the hospitals even if only requires a small percentage to need a hospital.
 
2021-12-06 10:57:05 AM  

Dafatone: Rwa2play: Liked that some African officials were accusing the West of "hoarding the vaccine" when we all know that even if Africa were given mass access to the vaccine the first ones on-line would've been every multi-millionaire and government officials from every African nation while the poor would've been left to fend for themselves.

Who do you think would get vaccinated after the rich people are done?


Their friends and anyone kissing their asses just enough.
 
2021-12-06 11:00:15 AM  

d23: but... a loud orange-skinned man told me that this doesn't affect children AT ALL.  You don't think "rich" businessmen lie, to you?


Certainly we can trust the ones that lie about being rich.
 
2021-12-06 11:03:35 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Those silly Kiwis are carefully vetting stories and making sure we're just not spreading anecdotes around, right? Because they're not in South Africa, they're REPORTING ON A GODDAMN TWITTER POST.


Not only, that, an Eric Feigl-Ding Twitter post.
 
2021-12-06 11:05:45 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: So these are Children of the 'Cron?


Hmph. Not bad.
 
2021-12-06 11:07:59 AM  
They stop need to stop saying stuff so fast. Why come out so fast and say Omicron is mild when only a few people had it at that moment? All their doing is giving idiots reason to take what they say and run with it. Just wait until you actually know, scientifically, so you don't have to backtrack and give morons ammo. Assume the worst, hope for the best.
 
2021-12-06 11:08:06 AM  

I'm an excellent driver: T-Boy: ...We are fortunate when these strains first appear elsewhere, giving us an observer's advantage at the startup.

It also underlines the risk of letting the undeveloped world fall behind with vaccine programs.  Virus mutation and spread is far more rapid in unvaccinated populations, ergo, if we think of vaccinations as a local issue (as we do currently) we will continue to get blindsided by these variants.

The earlier hullabaloo over not pushing boosters while the third world was largely unvaccinated soon got politically suppressed because that's not how you win votes.  Now we see a classic risk of forgetting just how "global" a pandemic truly is these days.

Of course there are supply problems, vaccine aversion and a general apathy in some of these countries, but that's why they need help get the numbers up.  All those people who quote the stats showing they have plenty of vaccines, but they just wont take them, are also the people who know every homeless beggar secretly drives a BMW 5 series and lives in a mansion.


Except South Africa has an vaccine hesitancy issue and has recently delayed vaccine shipments because vaccine was piling up.

That Nigeria has roughly a 3% rate hits the equity issue harder (and likely planning as they have a top 30 GDP)
 
2021-12-06 11:10:09 AM  

xanadian: "Kiwis?"

"Forget it, he's rolling."


That's largely how they refer to themselves as a nation's people, yes.
 
2021-12-06 11:10:29 AM  

xanadian: "Kiwis?"

"Forget it, he's rolling."


?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_(people)

"Kiwi" (/ˈkiːwi/ KEE-wee)[1] is a common self-reference used by New Zealanders, though it is also used internationally.[2] Unlike many demographic labels, its usage is not considered offensive; rather, it is generally viewed as a symbol of pride and endearment for most people of New Zealand.[3]
 
2021-12-06 11:12:05 AM  

T-Boy: Another small slice of information. Worth our attention and study but the full picture of this new strain isn't yet known.

We are fortunate when these strains first appear elsewhere, giving us an observer's advantage at the startup.


Not that it matters since millions of idiots think this is a joke.
 
2021-12-06 11:15:28 AM  

abhorrent1: They stop need to stop saying stuff so fast. Why come out so fast and say Omicron is mild when only a few people had it at that moment? All their doing is giving idiots reason to take what they say and run with it. Just wait until you actually know, scientifically, so you don't have to backtrack and give morons ammo. Assume the worst, hope for the best.


The mild thing was anecdotal.

The data itself is alarming.

A 15x increase in cases in 3 days...
 
2021-12-06 11:16:42 AM  
Fark, this will mean going back to distance learning.  I farking hate farking distance learning
 
2021-12-06 11:19:04 AM  
Thanks to the Orange Fuhrer, we now have a virulent disease loose on the planet.

Thanks to his farking cult, we'll never be rid of it.
 
2021-12-06 11:20:30 AM  
It's like Jesus said:

"Suffer, the little children."
 
2021-12-06 11:20:35 AM  

Watubi: Fark, this will mean going back to distance learning.  I farking hate farking distance learning


I much prefer zoom meetings. I ain't driving a hour to listen to stupid shiat just because 'it's always been that way'.
 
2021-12-06 11:23:33 AM  
It will get to the level of sports eventually. Countries competing to have the most effective measures against outbreaks... ridiculing those nations that can't get their collective shiat together. Eventually, the haves will deride the have nots. Like pro wrestling, there will be the dark teams with their draconian clampdowns and hard borders (Just WIN BABY!), and the good teams that will go the extra mile with vaccines and less invasive measures (Mental Toughness!).

Some countries will just "refuse to compete" because they have no chance of winning, or will just call it all a hoax. They will boycott this olympics. Fail to prepare. Prepare to fail.

Make it politics. Make it economics. Make it entertainment. Make it sports. Start predicting it like weather.

Treat it like anything, humans. Anything but what it is: a public health menace. A problem that needs collective action by all nations to resolve. A global threat. What happens in Namibia affects what happens in Japan. What happens in South Africa affects what happens in New Zealand. What happens in Atlanta affects what happens in San Francisco.

Technology did not fail us. It gave us every tool we needed. Humanity itself is lacking. Common cause. Collective action. Basic decency. All too rare amongst all our plenty. Our inability to deal with COVID19 is a warning that we will not be able to deal with climate change, resource depletion, inequality, race and immigration, and all global issues. We won't learn the lessons even after we do the homework. The sun is going down on our ability to act globally in any fashion. We are running out of time.
 
2021-12-06 11:23:39 AM  

Watubi: Fark, this will mean going back to distance learning.  I farking hate farking distance learning


Everyone does, so we're not going to do it.

It's political suicide.

And they wonder why 42% of teachers  are considering leaving the profession within the year. 

Well that and administrators being administrators.
 
2021-12-06 11:23:47 AM  

Rwa2play: Liked that some African officials were accusing the West of "hoarding the vaccine" when we all know that even if Africa were given mass access to the vaccine the first ones on-line would've been every multi-millionaire and government officials from every African nation while the poor would've been left to fend for themselves.


A bunch got sent to the DRC and was returned unopened because the government couldn't or wouldn't distribute it, and what got distributed went unused because no one wanted it.

It was the AZ vaccine, over a million doses
 
2021-12-06 11:26:23 AM  

Rwa2play: Liked that some African officials were accusing the West of "hoarding the vaccine" when we all know that even if Africa were given mass access to the vaccine the first ones on-line would've been every multi-millionaire and government officials from every African nation while the poor would've been left to fend for themselves.


The West? China should supply them with all the Sinovac they want, since it's the one responsible for this mess.
 
2021-12-06 11:27:16 AM  

thehobbes: abhorrent1: They stop need to stop saying stuff so fast. Why come out so fast and say Omicron is mild when only a few people had it at that moment? All their doing is giving idiots reason to take what they say and run with it. Just wait until you actually know, scientifically, so you don't have to backtrack and give morons ammo. Assume the worst, hope for the best.

The mild thing was anecdotal.

The data itself is alarming.

A 15x increase in cases in 3 days...


Doesn't mean it isn't mild, and could be an artifact from increased testing for the new variant.

It's too soon to say just a cold, and too soon to chicken little.

Let the information come in.
 
2021-12-06 11:29:37 AM  

thehobbes: Watubi: Fark, this will mean going back to distance learning.  I farking hate farking distance learning

Everyone does, so we're not going to do it.

It's political suicide.

And they wonder why 42% of teachers  are considering leaving the profession within the year. 

Well that and administrators being administrators.


Don't forget the parents.
 
2021-12-06 11:30:38 AM  

Dafatone: Rwa2play: Liked that some African officials were accusing the West of "hoarding the vaccine" when we all know that even if Africa were given mass access to the vaccine the first ones on-line would've been every multi-millionaire and government officials from every African nation while the poor would've been left to fend for themselves.

Who do you think would get vaccinated after the rich people are done?


Whoever the rich people sold the remaining shots to.
 
2021-12-06 11:31:03 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: Doesn't mean it isn't mild, and could be an artifact from increased testing for the new variant.

It's too soon to say just a cold, and too soon to chicken little.



It isn't being a chicken little when we're seeing a new group being hit harder than we even saw with Delta. 


"We are now seeing them [children] coming in with moderate to severe symptoms needing supplemental oxygen, needing supportive therapy, needing to stay in hospital for quite a number of days."

You sound the alarm BEFORE the system is in danger.
 
2021-12-06 11:31:45 AM  

atomic-age: thehobbes: Watubi: Fark, this will mean going back to distance learning.  I farking hate farking distance learning

Everyone does, so we're not going to do it.

It's political suicide.

And they wonder why 42% of teachers  are considering leaving the profession within the year. 

Well that and administrators being administrators.

Don't forget the parents.


And the shiatty pay.
 
2021-12-06 11:32:46 AM  

abhorrent1: They stop need to stop saying stuff so fast. Why come out so fast and say Omicron is mild when only a few people had it at that moment? All their doing is giving idiots reason to take what they say and run with it. Just wait until you actually know, scientifically, so you don't have to backtrack and give morons ammo. Assume the worst, hope for the best.


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2021-12-06 11:35:39 AM  

2fardownthread: It will get to the level of sports eventually. Countries competing to have the most effective measures against outbreaks... ridiculing those nations that can't get their collective shiat together. Eventually, the haves will deride the have nots. Like pro wrestling, there will be the dark teams with their draconian clampdowns and hard borders (Just WIN BABY!), and the good teams that will go the extra mile with vaccines and less invasive measures (Mental Toughness!).

Some countries will just "refuse to compete" because they have no chance of winning, or will just call it all a hoax. They will boycott this olympics. Fail to prepare. Prepare to fail.

Make it politics. Make it economics. Make it entertainment. Make it sports. Start predicting it like weather.

Treat it like anything, humans. Anything but what it is: a public health menace. A problem that needs collective action by all nations to resolve. A global threat. What happens in Namibia affects what happens in Japan. What happens in South Africa affects what happens in New Zealand. What happens in Atlanta affects what happens in San Francisco.

Technology did not fail us. It gave us every tool we needed. Humanity itself is lacking. Common cause. Collective action. Basic decency. All too rare amongst all our plenty. Our inability to deal with COVID19 is a warning that we will not be able to deal with climate change, resource depletion, inequality, race and immigration, and all global issues. We won't learn the lessons even after we do the homework. The sun is going down on our ability to act globally in any fashion. We are running out of time.

 
2021-12-06 11:38:28 AM  

WhippingBoi: abhorrent1: They stop need to stop saying stuff so fast. Why come out so fast and say Omicron is mild when only a few people had it at that moment? All their doing is giving idiots reason to take what they say and run with it. Just wait until you actually know, scientifically, so you don't have to backtrack and give morons ammo. Assume the worst, hope for the best.

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You really want a new variant to be milder than the previous ones... gives a comfort that the disease will generally become less dangerous over time.
You know, like how the Black Death eventually settled down after four hundred years of killing people.
 
2021-12-06 11:38:47 AM  
So many viruses are linked to cancer. Chicken pox gives you shingles and they're saying now that alzheimer's is likely due to a herpes virus. I don't want to see which gifts covid brings down the road.
 
2021-12-06 11:42:15 AM  

d23: but... a loud orange-skinned man told me that this doesn't affect children AT ALL.  You don't think "rich" businessmen lie, to you?


He should be rich considering the $1.7 billion in revenue he took out the tax payers pocket and gave to his own businesses. Then again, he is so terrible at this that he still probably struggled to make a profit off it.
 
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