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2021-12-06 2:28:27 AM  
The employment market is subject to all the forces of market economics. Employers who insist on staff being vaccinated and lose staff who aren't will find themselves paying a bit of a premium for doing that, although they'll also attract staff who don't want to work alongside plague rats so that's presumably a win for them. Those who will take anyone irrespective of vaccination status will be able to pay lower wages but, depending on circumstances, may face consequences if their workers contract COVID at work.The short term gain of a lower wages bill may end up being a long-term loss. They'll also wind up with staff who are conspiracy theorists, illogical and unsound in other ways, which also might have costs to them.

The end result is don't be surprised when anti-vaxxers start biatching about the next big "conspiracy" - they're being paid below industry standard compared with their vaccinated counterparts. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply the employment market doing what it does.

I'm employed in the corporate world by a company that insists on vaccinations for all staff and I'm perfectly happy with that.
 
2021-12-06 4:33:08 AM  
I hope that employer owns stock in the funeral business.
 
2021-12-06 4:52:15 AM  
Meanwhile in America, Nazis are laying seige to state capitol buildings because liberals don't want people to sneeze on other people.
 
2021-12-06 5:10:38 AM  
I live up here in Canada.
The amount of hard core antivaxxers here is scary.
I expected a few but holyfark, there so many of them.
 
2021-12-06 5:30:30 AM  
Good, you immunosexuals are out of control.
 
2021-12-06 5:39:06 AM  
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Hi, I'm here about the job you advertised. I've got my vaccination record ...
Oh, don't worry, we don't require vaccination.
You don't?
Nope.
I'd be working with unvaccinated people.
I guess so.
Never mind then.
Hey, why are you leaving?
 
2021-12-06 6:08:39 AM  
One of my friends had to get rid of an anti vaxxer employee. She made do somehow. Employee was spewing her crap non stop, getting into arguments with clients.
 
2021-12-06 6:27:30 AM  
My co-worker refuses to get the vaccine due to religion, and the company made an exemption. No way is he a religious person. He has to take a rapid test every day before work. Good for him, I guess.

Meanwhile, I've been vaxxed plus had a booster shot. I've been fine and if the vaccine were to do something to me, oh well. I'd rather role the dice being vaccinated than to die a horrible COVID death, gasping for air. At the minimum, I wear a mask all the time, and couldn't care less how I look.
 
2021-12-06 6:46:58 AM  
If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?

/before you bring up the kids...there have been a couple hundred people under 18 die in almost two years (out of millions) from COVID - Comorbidities, how do they work?
//but..but...but long COVID in children, show me stats from the CDC

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2021-12-06 7:25:09 AM  
I wonder how many people of the neck tattoo  persuasion are still not being hired?
 
2021-12-06 7:26:45 AM  
We have loud anti-vaxxers (is there any other kind) but they are a small minority.  I say fark 'em and the companies they work for.

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2021-12-06 7:27:14 AM  

ColonelCathcart: If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?

/before you bring up the kids...there have been a couple hundred people under 18 die in almost two years (out of millions) from COVID - Comorbidities, how do they work?
//but..but...but long COVID in children, show me stats from the CDC

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I think the arguments are that health care system will get overloaded. I'm OK with people not getting vaccinated being able to opt out of health care.

The other is that people with immune problems are vulnerable. I don't see us forcing vaccines on everyone for such a tiny percent of the population.
 
2021-12-06 7:29:57 AM  

ColonelCathcart: If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?

/before you bring up the kids...there have been a couple hundred people under 18 die in almost two years (out of millions) from COVID - Comorbidities, how do they work?
//but..but...but long COVID in children, show me stats from the CDC

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I understand not caring about the unvaccinated. But until hospitals change their policy on treated plague rats, every bed they take is a bed not being used for someone in a bad car accident who needs a ventilator.
 
2021-12-06 7:39:16 AM  
All the vaxed employees should consider a walk out.
 
2021-12-06 7:39:22 AM  

IDisME: We have loud anti-vaxxers (is there any other kind) but they are a small minority.  I say fark 'em and the companies they work for.

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Oh, look at that.  Alberta is down near the bottom.

I guess they weren't wrong (about it being the Texas of Canada, that is).
 
2021-12-06 7:51:54 AM  

ColonelCathcart: If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?

/before you bring up the kids...there have been a couple hundred people under 18 die in almost two years (out of millions) from COVID - Comorbidities, how do they work?
//but..but...but long COVID in children, show me stats from the CDC

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>>>" If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?"

Seriously? You ask this question? Have you been living in a sewer for two years?

You don't know that vaccines are not 100% effective? They reduce the chance of getting Covid, and reduce the severity of it if you do get it.

Welcome to the Real World.
 
2021-12-06 8:14:30 AM  

skinink: My co-worker refuses to get the vaccine due to religion, and the company made an exemption. No way is he a religious person. He has to take a rapid test every day before work. Good for him, I guess.

Meanwhile, I've been vaxxed plus had a booster shot. I've been fine and if the vaccine were to do something to me, oh well. I'd rather role the dice being vaccinated than to die a horrible COVID death, gasping for air. At the minimum, I wear a mask all the time, and couldn't care less how I look.


So how does that work? Does the guy/gal just say, "Yea, I passed my test again this morning", a picture of the test kit (that may or may not have been run correctly) on top of the day's newspaper, or is there a trustworthy person administering the tests?

/actual general interest question as we have a few nutbars at work and this might become a reality for us soon
//as far as I know we are going to trust people who fall for anti-vax nonsense to self report
 
2021-12-06 8:14:58 AM  

skinink: My co-worker refuses to get the vaccine due to religion, and the company made an exemption. No way is he a religious person.


No major faith out there has its leadership issuing exemptions for the COVID vaccine.  Plenty of followers claiming one, as well as local officials who don't have the official support of their bosses.
 
2021-12-06 8:17:15 AM  

Aussie_As: The employment market is subject to all the forces of market economics. Employers who insist on staff being vaccinated and lose staff who aren't will find themselves paying a bit of a premium for doing that, although they'll also attract staff who don't want to work alongside plague rats so that's presumably a win for them. Those who will take anyone irrespective of vaccination status will be able to pay lower wages but, depending on circumstances, may face consequences if their workers contract COVID at work.The short term gain of a lower wages bill may end up being a long-term loss. They'll also wind up with staff who are conspiracy theorists, illogical and unsound in other ways, which also might have costs to them.

The end result is don't be surprised when anti-vaxxers start biatching about the next big "conspiracy" - they're being paid below industry standard compared with their vaccinated counterparts. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply the employment market doing what it does.

I'm employed in the corporate world by a company that insists on vaccinations for all staff and I'm perfectly happy with that.


Yes, but I also means that people who really can't afford to turn down a job will effectively be forced to work with unvaccinated colleagues.
 
2021-12-06 8:36:07 AM  

Lars The Canadian Viking: ColonelCathcart: If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?

/before you bring up the kids...there have been a couple hundred people under 18 die in almost two years (out of millions) from COVID - Comorbidities, how do they work?
//but..but...but long COVID in children, show me stats from the CDC

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I think the arguments are that health care system will get overloaded. I'm OK with people not getting vaccinated being able to opt out of health care.

The other is that people with immune problems are vulnerable. I don't see us forcing vaccines on everyone for such a tiny percent of the population.


This is about the only reason I would care, but I still have trouble giving a rats ass. We should bring that floating COVID hospital back and fly them all there so regular hospitals aren't inundated.
 
2021-12-06 8:38:02 AM  

Harlee: ColonelCathcart: If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?

/before you bring up the kids...there have been a couple hundred people under 18 die in almost two years (out of millions) from COVID - Comorbidities, how do they work?
//but..but...but long COVID in children, show me stats from the CDC

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>>>" If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?"

Seriously? You ask this question? Have you been living in a sewer for two years?

You don't know that vaccines are not 100% effective? They reduce the chance of getting Covid, and reduce the severity of it if you do get it.

Welcome to the Real World.


Vaccines make getting seriously sick, let alone dying, from COVID like winning the lottery.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf
 
2021-12-06 8:41:39 AM  
Canadian employers are a curse upon this country.
 
2021-12-06 8:57:30 AM  

RogermcAllen: skinink: My co-worker refuses to get the vaccine due to religion, and the company made an exemption. No way is he a religious person. He has to take a rapid test every day before work. Good for him, I guess.

Meanwhile, I've been vaxxed plus had a booster shot. I've been fine and if the vaccine were to do something to me, oh well. I'd rather role the dice being vaccinated than to die a horrible COVID death, gasping for air. At the minimum, I wear a mask all the time, and couldn't care less how I look.

So how does that work? Does the guy/gal just say, "Yea, I passed my test again this morning", a picture of the test kit (that may or may not have been run correctly) on top of the day's newspaper, or is there a trustworthy person administering the tests?

/actual general interest question as we have a few nutbars at work and this might become a reality for us soon
//as far as I know we are going to trust people who fall for anti-vax nonsense to self report


Not sure how the daily test works, though I suppose if he gets sick and is caught lying, bye bye job.

There is also a weekly test which has to be taken, and this is the test which has to be sent to a lab to get the results. So no faking anything there.
 
2021-12-06 9:07:29 AM  

skinink: RogermcAllen: skinink: My co-worker refuses to get the vaccine due to religion, and the company made an exemption. No way is he a religious person. He has to take a rapid test every day before work. Good for him, I guess.

Meanwhile, I've been vaxxed plus had a booster shot. I've been fine and if the vaccine were to do something to me, oh well. I'd rather role the dice being vaccinated than to die a horrible COVID death, gasping for air. At the minimum, I wear a mask all the time, and couldn't care less how I look.

So how does that work? Does the guy/gal just say, "Yea, I passed my test again this morning", a picture of the test kit (that may or may not have been run correctly) on top of the day's newspaper, or is there a trustworthy person administering the tests?

/actual general interest question as we have a few nutbars at work and this might become a reality for us soon
//as far as I know we are going to trust people who fall for anti-vax nonsense to self report

Not sure how the daily test works, though I suppose if he gets sick and is caught lying, bye bye job.

There is also a weekly test which has to be taken, and this is the test which has to be sent to a lab to get the results. So no faking anything there.


I'm curious how that works if he catches it from one of his vaccinated coworkers.

Just a few posts up thread is someone mocking someone else for believing the vaccine will protect them from catching or spreading covid.
 
2021-12-06 9:08:32 AM  
Dropping your vaccine mandate to entice the 20% of the population that are selfish plague rats is a good way to make the responsible 80% of us leave and find a more responsible employer.
 
2021-12-06 9:21:19 AM  

Aussie_As: The employment market is subject to all the forces of market economics. Employers who insist on staff being vaccinated and lose staff who aren't will find themselves paying a bit of a premium for doing that, although they'll also attract staff who don't want to work alongside plague rats so that's presumably a win for them. Those who will take anyone irrespective of vaccination status will be able to pay lower wages but, depending on circumstances, may face consequences if their workers contract COVID at work.The short term gain of a lower wages bill may end up being a long-term loss. They'll also wind up with staff who are conspiracy theorists, illogical and unsound in other ways, which also might have costs to them.

The end result is don't be surprised when anti-vaxxers start biatching about the next big "conspiracy" - they're being paid below industry standard compared with their vaccinated counterparts. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply the employment market doing what it does.

I'm employed in the corporate world by a company that insists on vaccinations for all staff and I'm perfectly happy with that.


I am in agreement with all that. Our antivaxxer plague rat, who believes the WHO are trying to kill the population, and showed me a graph that that had vaccine hesitancy, pointing out "look how many PhD's aren't taking it!" yeah because i want to take advice on vaccines from someone who wrote a thesis on the mating habits of snow geese. ugh.  Anyways, that plague rat was out for most of last week, i think he finally caught the 'vid.
 
2021-12-06 9:25:54 AM  

ColonelCathcart: We should bring that floating COVID hospital back and fly them all there so regular hospitals aren't inundated.


Or, you know, far more simply and cheaply, get people vaccinated.
 
2021-12-06 10:16:28 AM  
Before RTFA, I'm guessing Calgary is involved.
Having RTFA (scanned) Well what do you know? Quebec, not North Texas.

Folks, when you give in to anti vaxxers by paying them to infect your other employees, you're perpetuating the problem.  Better inflation than contagion.
 
2021-12-06 10:16:58 AM  

Rev.K: ColonelCathcart: We should bring that floating COVID hospital back and fly them all there so regular hospitals aren't inundated.

Or, you know, far more simply and cheaply, get people vaccinated.


Yes, but if you're too dumb to get vax'd we don't need you crowding small rural hospitals.

/I never said for free
 
2021-12-06 10:17:20 AM  

Buck Fiden: Good, you immunosexuals are out of control.


Aren't you cute!
Dumb, but cute.
 
2021-12-06 10:29:49 AM  

ColonelCathcart: Yes, but if you're too dumb to get vax'd we don't need you crowding small rural hospitals.


Oh, I think I misunderstood your previous comment.

I agree with you.
 
2021-12-06 10:32:57 AM  

Smurfnazi420: I live up here in Canada.
The amount of hard core antivaxxers here is scary.
I expected a few but holyfark, there so many of them.


Really? I haven't run into any. Have only seen four unmasked folks in places that require masks since the pandemic began.

I am going to guess you live in Alberta.
 
2021-12-06 10:48:01 AM  

ColonelCathcart: Harlee: ColonelCathcart: If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?

/before you bring up the kids...there have been a couple hundred people under 18 die in almost two years (out of millions) from COVID - Comorbidities, how do they work?
//but..but...but long COVID in children, show me stats from the CDC

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>>>" If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?"

Seriously? You ask this question? Have you been living in a sewer for two years?

You don't know that vaccines are not 100% effective? They reduce the chance of getting Covid, and reduce the severity of it if you do get it.

Welcome to the Real World.

Vaccines make getting seriously sick, let alone dying, from COVID like winning the lottery.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf


Tell you what, Skippy.  Let's try an experiment. You are asked to voluntarily enter a windowless room. Why? Say there is food in there, and you are very hungry. There is one unlocked iron door. There is a metal doorknob on the door. Both entering and leaving, there is a tiny yet very real chance that that doorknob will be charged with a million volts of one amp current. Do you feel lucky?

Now ask yourself why you would voluntarily place yourself in this situation. Personally, I don't like unnecessary gambling, even if the odds are hugely in my favor. I am also fairly certain that the majority of rational thinking people will have exactly the same opinion. Had we the power, we would ban all iron doorknobs that might be charged with deadly current to the nether regions.

But you be you.

Oh, and ask yourself this: If this deadly stupid roulette continues and a variant emerges that scares the ever-loving shiat out of the government, to the point where the military is conducting armed house-to-house sweeps to force-vaccinate everyone, who will you blame? Who WILL you blame?
 
2021-12-06 10:55:21 AM  

dmc12mk3: skinink: RogermcAllen: skinink: My co-worker refuses to get the vaccine due to religion, and the company made an exemption. No way is he a religious person. He has to take a rapid test every day before work. Good for him, I guess.

Meanwhile, I've been vaxxed plus had a booster shot. I've been fine and if the vaccine were to do something to me, oh well. I'd rather role the dice being vaccinated than to die a horrible COVID death, gasping for air. At the minimum, I wear a mask all the time, and couldn't care less how I look.

So how does that work? Does the guy/gal just say, "Yea, I passed my test again this morning", a picture of the test kit (that may or may not have been run correctly) on top of the day's newspaper, or is there a trustworthy person administering the tests?

/actual general interest question as we have a few nutbars at work and this might become a reality for us soon
//as far as I know we are going to trust people who fall for anti-vax nonsense to self report

Not sure how the daily test works, though I suppose if he gets sick and is caught lying, bye bye job.

There is also a weekly test which has to be taken, and this is the test which has to be sent to a lab to get the results. So no faking anything there.

I'm curious how that works if he catches it from one of his vaccinated coworkers.

Just a few posts up thread is someone mocking someone else for believing the vaccine will protect them from catching or spreading covid.


It is not an either/or situation. Vaccines decrease the odds of getting Covid, and generally result in a milder case if you DO get it. But they are not a cure-all.

Oh, and perfect is the enemy of good.
 
2021-12-06 10:57:17 AM  

Harlee: ColonelCathcart: Harlee: ColonelCathcart: If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?

/before you bring up the kids...there have been a couple hundred people under 18 die in almost two years (out of millions) from COVID - Comorbidities, how do they work?
//but..but...but long COVID in children, show me stats from the CDC

[Fark user image 425x196]

>>>" If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?"

Seriously? You ask this question? Have you been living in a sewer for two years?

You don't know that vaccines are not 100% effective? They reduce the chance of getting Covid, and reduce the severity of it if you do get it.

Welcome to the Real World.

Vaccines make getting seriously sick, let alone dying, from COVID like winning the lottery.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

Tell you what, Skippy.  Let's try an experiment. You are asked to voluntarily enter a windowless room. Why? Say there is food in there, and you are very hungry. There is one unlocked iron door. There is a metal doorknob on the door. Both entering and leaving, there is a tiny yet very real chance that that doorknob will be charged with a million volts of one amp current. Do you feel lucky?

Now ask yourself why you would voluntarily place yourself in this situation. Personally, I don't like unnecessary gambling, even if the odds are hugely in my favor. I am also fairly certain that the majority of rational thinking people will have exactly the same opinion. Had we the power, we would ban all iron doorknobs that might be charged with deadly current to the nether regions.

But you be you.

Oh, and ask yourself this: If this deadly stupid roulette continues and a variant emerges that scares the ever-loving shiat out of the government, to the point where the military is conducting armed house-to-house sweeps to force-vaccinate everyone, who will you blame? Who WILL you blame?


I'm not going to live my life in perpetual fear. I trust the 3 doses of Pfizer in me, and I trust the 3 doses of Sputnik in my relatives.

The virus will continue to evolve, and I will continue to get my boosters. Hopefully this virus follows "normal" virus evolution and evolves into a less fatal, yet more transmisible, virus...which it looks like Omicron seems to be.

You do you, but I'm going to live my life and act this way when it comes to the unvaccinated adults and chicken littles like you:

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/now, if COVID evolves into Ebola or something...I'll be stocking up on ammo and going to the countryside to wait out the collapse of society
 
2021-12-06 11:04:32 AM  

SecondaryControl: All the vaxed employees should consider a walk out.


And a stay out
 
2021-12-06 11:07:34 AM  

Pert: Aussie_As: The employment market is subject to all the forces of market economics. Employers who insist on staff being vaccinated and lose staff who aren't will find themselves paying a bit of a premium for doing that, although they'll also attract staff who don't want to work alongside plague rats so that's presumably a win for them. Those who will take anyone irrespective of vaccination status will be able to pay lower wages but, depending on circumstances, may face consequences if their workers contract COVID at work.The short term gain of a lower wages bill may end up being a long-term loss. They'll also wind up with staff who are conspiracy theorists, illogical and unsound in other ways, which also might have costs to them.

The end result is don't be surprised when anti-vaxxers start biatching about the next big "conspiracy" - they're being paid below industry standard compared with their vaccinated counterparts. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply the employment market doing what it does.

I'm employed in the corporate world by a company that insists on vaccinations for all staff and I'm perfectly happy with that.

Yes, but I also means that people who really can't afford to turn down a job will effectively be forced to work with unvaccinated colleagues.


No, they won't, because enhanced unemployment/monthly EIC checks
 
2021-12-06 11:09:14 AM  

BumpInTheNight: Dropping your vaccine mandate to entice the 20% of the population that are selfish plague rats is a good way to make the responsible 80% of us leave and find a more responsible employer.


Most of those selfish plague rats are our imported servant underclass.
 
2021-12-06 11:23:06 AM  

ColonelCathcart: Harlee: ColonelCathcart: Harlee: ColonelCathcart: If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?

/before you bring up the kids...there have been a couple hundred people under 18 die in almost two years (out of millions) from COVID - Comorbidities, how do they work?
//but..but...but long COVID in children, show me stats from the CDC

[Fark user image 425x196]

>>>" If we're fully vaccinated, why do we care about the unvaccinated adults?"

Seriously? You ask this question? Have you been living in a sewer for two years?

You don't know that vaccines are not 100% effective? They reduce the chance of getting Covid, and reduce the severity of it if you do get it.

Welcome to the Real World.

Vaccines make getting seriously sick, let alone dying, from COVID like winning the lottery.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Documents/1600/coronavirus/data-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

Tell you what, Skippy.  Let's try an experiment. You are asked to voluntarily enter a windowless room. Why? Say there is food in there, and you are very hungry. There is one unlocked iron door. There is a metal doorknob on the door. Both entering and leaving, there is a tiny yet very real chance that that doorknob will be charged with a million volts of one amp current. Do you feel lucky?

Now ask yourself why you would voluntarily place yourself in this situation. Personally, I don't like unnecessary gambling, even if the odds are hugely in my favor. I am also fairly certain that the majority of rational thinking people will have exactly the same opinion. Had we the power, we would ban all iron doorknobs that might be charged with deadly current to the nether regions.

But you be you.

Oh, and ask yourself this: If this deadly stupid roulette continues and a variant emerges that scares the ever-loving shiat out of the government, to the point where the military is conducting armed house-to-house sweeps to force-vaccinate everyone, who will you bl ...


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Of course you don't. We all knew that from your very Boobies here on Fark. Sociopaths generally give themselves away in all sorts of ways.
 
2021-12-06 11:27:55 AM  

ThighsofGlory: Pert: Aussie_As: The employment market is subject to all the forces of market economics. Employers who insist on staff being vaccinated and lose staff who aren't will find themselves paying a bit of a premium for doing that, although they'll also attract staff who don't want to work alongside plague rats so that's presumably a win for them. Those who will take anyone irrespective of vaccination status will be able to pay lower wages but, depending on circumstances, may face consequences if their workers contract COVID at work.The short term gain of a lower wages bill may end up being a long-term loss. They'll also wind up with staff who are conspiracy theorists, illogical and unsound in other ways, which also might have costs to them.

The end result is don't be surprised when anti-vaxxers start biatching about the next big "conspiracy" - they're being paid below industry standard compared with their vaccinated counterparts. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply the employment market doing what it does.

I'm employed in the corporate world by a company that insists on vaccinations for all staff and I'm perfectly happy with that.

Yes, but I also means that people who really can't afford to turn down a job will effectively be forced to work with unvaccinated colleagues.

No, they won't, because enhanced unemployment/monthly EIC checks


They haven't had those in 6 months and even with them, the amounts were tiny.
 
2021-12-06 12:32:35 PM  
Just another excuse not to pay a decent wage that people can live on.
 
2021-12-06 12:55:51 PM  

Harlee: Tell you what, Skippy.  Let's try an experiment. You are asked to voluntarily enter a windowless room. Why? Say there is food in there, and you are very hungry. There is one unlocked iron door. There is a metal doorknob on the door. Both entering and leaving, there is a tiny yet very real chance that that doorknob will be charged with a million volts of one amp current. Do you feel lucky?

Now ask yourself why you would voluntarily place yourself in this situation.


Because it's my duty to my country and my fellow citizens. If I must sacrifice, then so be it.

But then, y'know, duty used to mean something to people...
 
2021-12-06 1:00:35 PM  
Canadian employers, facing labor shortage, accommodate the unvaccinated show you where their true loyalties lie, not in your public safety and civilization, but in their profit margins.
 
2021-12-06 2:08:00 PM  

Pert: Aussie_As: The employment market is subject to all the forces of market economics. Employers who insist on staff being vaccinated and lose staff who aren't will find themselves paying a bit of a premium for doing that, although they'll also attract staff who don't want to work alongside plague rats so that's presumably a win for them. Those who will take anyone irrespective of vaccination status will be able to pay lower wages but, depending on circumstances, may face consequences if their workers contract COVID at work.The short term gain of a lower wages bill may end up being a long-term loss. They'll also wind up with staff who are conspiracy theorists, illogical and unsound in other ways, which also might have costs to them.

The end result is don't be surprised when anti-vaxxers start biatching about the next big "conspiracy" - they're being paid below industry standard compared with their vaccinated counterparts. It's not a conspiracy, it's simply the employment market doing what it does.

I'm employed in the corporate world by a company that insists on vaccinations for all staff and I'm perfectly happy with that.

Yes, but I also means that people who really can't afford to turn down a job will effectively be forced to work with unvaccinated colleagues.


Hey, I'm in favour of vaccine mandates. My comment was about, you know, TFA. If they're not happening then economics plays out as I described. Yeah some folks are going to have little option other than to work alongside plague rats if they can't get a job with an employer who can - take that up with governments who don't mandate, not me.
 
2021-12-06 2:15:56 PM  

Smurfnazi420: I live up here in Canada.
The amount of hard core antivaxxers here is scary.
I expected a few but holyfark, there so many of them.


As a fellow Canadian I concur. Too much Facebook and YouTube.

YouTube took their sweet time deciding "Hey maybe we should take down these bullshiat conspiracy theory videos with spooky music that wingnuts keep watching". Facebook, pfft. One itty bitty little "This has been proven false" disclaimer under peoples' whargblblblbl bullshiat.

Hell, Facebook is the reason the RWNJs are eating horse dewormer like it's going out of style.
 
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