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(The Daily Beast)   Festivus is not what you think   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2021-12-06 1:42:08 AM  
Festivus never would have happened if they had cell phones at the time.
 
2021-12-06 2:00:29 AM  
I listened to this interview. The writer and his brother were victims of child abuse by their asshole father.
 
2021-12-06 2:12:18 AM  

dsmith42: I listened to this interview. The writer and his brother were victims of child abuse by their asshole father.


Yup.  Actual Festivus wasn't nearly as festive as fictional Festivus.
 
2021-12-06 3:11:17 AM  
So what are you saying? No Feats of Strength and Airing of Grievances?
 
2021-12-06 8:31:33 AM  

Kris_Romm: dsmith42: I listened to this interview. The writer and his brother were victims of child abuse by their asshole father.

Yup.  Actual Festivus wasn't nearly as festive as fictional Festivus.


Well, the fictional Festivus isn't as bad as the real one, but it was clear that it existed so George's dad could complain about things (more than he already did). Not particularly festive.
 
2021-12-06 8:34:10 AM  
Well yeah.  Fictional Festivus was pretty abusive too, it was the whole point.  The "Airing of Grievances" and "Feats of Strength" were basically their father getting drunk and continuously berating his wife and kids for not being good enough for him until one of them could physically force him to stop.  Like a lot of the show, it was a really dark, heavy joke dressed up in traditional sitcom trappings.  Audiences might have created their own version and turned it into something that overcomes that origin, but that origin itself is no less screwed up.
 
2021-12-06 10:34:26 AM  
In our house, once the teenagers started drinking as well during the holiday, things really got interesting, and I went to my room.
 
2021-12-06 11:10:33 AM  
Holy shiat that really was dark.  That sucks.
 
2021-12-06 12:09:31 PM  

Last Man on Earth: Well yeah.  Fictional Festivus was pretty abusive too, it was the whole point.  The "Airing of Grievances" and "Feats of Strength" were basically their father getting drunk and continuously berating his wife and kids for not being good enough for him until one of them could physically force him to stop.  Like a lot of the show, it was a really dark, heavy joke dressed up in traditional sitcom trappings.  Audiences might have created their own version and turned it into something that overcomes that origin, but that origin itself is no less screwed up.


Pin me, Last Man on Earth.
 
2021-12-06 1:31:10 PM  
Yeah talk about mining your pain for inspiration.  I'm a bit angry on the author's behalf at the fellow writers who cornered him and browbeat him into including his abuse as part of a sitcom, even by 80's comic standards that's a pretty shiat thing to do, and you can hear it still causes him pain to recall it, it's borderline abuse itself, but that's kinda par for the course for comics it seems.
 
2021-12-06 4:03:09 PM  

Kris_Romm: dsmith42: I listened to this interview. The writer and his brother were victims of child abuse by their asshole father.

Yup.  Actual Festivus wasn't nearly as festive as fictional Festivus.


But it did make him a great writer.
 
2021-12-06 9:47:34 PM  
Is the guy's dad still around? We should all go beat the crap out of that dude.
 
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