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2021-12-05 2:42:02 PM  
To make the most money possible for the least amount of work possible.

/duh
 
2021-12-05 2:42:55 PM  
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2021-12-05 2:45:50 PM  
Do you think we'll ever reach a point where robotics and automation will replace the vast majority of the world's workforce?  If so, will we have a universal basic income?
 
2021-12-05 2:52:47 PM  
This whole article reads like Mr. Smithers attempting to gently explain to Mr. Burns that you can't use the promise of a Christmas party to make employees work unpaid overtime, but don't worry, we can make this work in our favor.

"This situation led The Economist to suggest that 2022 'will be the year of the worker.' So, the pandemic has hastened a workers' reappraisal of what they want from work. And that may not be a bad outcome."
 
2021-12-05 3:24:25 PM  
Bruno V. Manno is a senior adviser for the Walton Family Foundation's education program, which supports grant-making on issues associated with education pathways to jobs and careers. The foundation provides general operating support to Populace.


So this Walmartstooge is upset. Good.
 
2021-12-05 3:38:01 PM  
I'm surprised the big bosses haven't gleaned anything from the exit interviews.

/ smirks
 
2021-12-05 3:40:46 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Bruno V. Manno is a senior adviser for the Walton Family Foundation's education program, which supports grant-making on issues associated with education pathways to jobs and careers. The foundation provides general operating support to Populace.


So this Walmartstooge is upset. Good.


Had to reread that.  I'd taken "Bruno V. Manno" as a court case.
 
2021-12-05 3:58:42 PM  
Money.

Health insurance.

That's about it.
 
2021-12-05 4:04:30 PM  
Money.

Health insurance should NOT be through employment.
 
2021-12-05 4:21:46 PM  

Billy Liar: I'm surprised the big bosses haven't gleaned anything from the exit interviews.



I only have 3 modes for exit interviews

1) I might want to go back. "This place is great, but this is a GREAT opportunity for me and I really need to try it out."

2) Fark you! I hate this place and you personally so why on god's green Earth would I help you by detailing things you could fix!?!?!?!

3) Leaving friends behind. Detail something they want address as your reason for leaving.


It's an opportunity to send a message. Why would I squander it on helping them when I am most likely leaving because they didn't listen BEFORE I gave notice.
 
2021-12-05 4:42:00 PM  
How aout not being a f*cking wage slave for one's entire life? That would be good enough for most people I reckon.
 
2021-12-05 4:54:27 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: This whole article reads like Mr. Smithers attempting to gently explain to Mr. Burns that you can't use the promise of a Christmas party to make employees work unpaid overtime, but don't worry, we can make this work in our favor.

"This situation led The Economist to suggest that 2022 'will be the year of the worker.' So, the pandemic has hastened a workers' reappraisal of what they want from work. And that may not be a bad outcome."


Sadly, I doubt this will be the year of unionization the working class desperately needs but executives will not grant because it would affect their profit margins.  You'd think they would see it as an investment for long term survival, but they would rather have short term gains.
 
2021-12-05 4:59:29 PM  
I want bubble baths with unicorns, and handjobs. Mainly handjobs. And health insurance would be nice too.
 
2021-12-05 5:11:52 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Do you think we'll ever reach a point where robotics and automation will replace the vast majority of the world's workforce?  If so, will we have a universal basic income?


Long overdue.
 
2021-12-05 5:13:49 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Do you think we'll ever reach a point where robotics and automation will replace the vast majority of the world's workforce?  If so, will we have a universal basic income?


It already has, in that if all automation were to disappear we would produce only a fraction of what we currently do. Problem is as our productivity is increased we just consume more.
So the real question is will productivity and efficiency ever outpace total demand? I think so but I am less and less optimistic that the powerful will let us reap the benefits. A rising tide raises all ships, but drowns the boatless.
 
2021-12-05 5:20:51 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Money.

Health insurance.

That's about it.


I want someone in the company to treat me as something other than a number on a spread sheet.
 
2021-12-05 5:21:21 PM  

Stephen_Falken: How aout not being a f*cking wage slave for one's entire life? That would be good enough for most people I reckon.


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2021-12-05 5:31:19 PM  

SpectroBoy: To make the most money possible for the least amount of work possible.

/duh


This is basically Econ 101. Employees want the most money for the least work.

Employers want the most work for the least money.

Buyers want the most product for the least price.  Sellers want the most money for the least product.

Work is a product for, employers are the buyers, employees are the sellers.

If you can't get anyone to buy your product, you've priced it too high.

If you can't find anyone to sell you a product, you're offering too little.

The best way to get the best price for your product is to band together with fellow sellers to ensure nobody sells for less.  This is either called "cartel" or a "union," depending on whether you're selling labor or goods. Whether it's a good or bad thing depends on whether you're buying or selling, but that's the cold reality of it.
 
2021-12-05 5:35:57 PM  
Most still aren't qualified to do more than flip burgers or fold sweaters
 
2021-12-05 5:45:09 PM  

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: I want bubble baths with unicorns, and handjobs. Mainly handjobs. And health insurance would be nice too.


Unicorns don't even have hands.
 
2021-12-05 6:01:47 PM  

propasaurus: Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: I want bubble baths with unicorns, and handjobs. Mainly handjobs. And health insurance would be nice too.

Unicorns don't even have hands.


Horn job?
 
2021-12-05 6:19:18 PM  
Some f*cking autonomy!

It's not enough that we have to sit through power-point demonstrations that stultify the mind and can be put in an e-mail, but they also have to be IN your business 24/7 because "you're never off the clock."

The f*ck I'm NOT!
 
2021-12-05 6:19:26 PM  
I want to be the wacky workplace sitcom character who never gets fired no matter how much he farks up.

And I want a laugh track to go with it.
 
2021-12-05 6:20:14 PM  

stilted: Stephen_Falken: How aout not being a f*cking wage slave for one's entire life? That would be good enough for most people I reckon.

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I guess Laura forgets that there's at least a gun for every person in this country.  And, y'know, not everybody follows the rules.  Especially when you have all day to think about it.
 
2021-12-05 6:24:28 PM  

cretinbob: Most still aren't qualified to do more than flip burgers or fold sweaters


And yet you need someone flipping your burger and folding your sweater. And cleaning your toilet and changing the oil in your car and you're too lazy to mow your own lawn and change your bed linen wheny ou're in the hospital and wash the dishes from your meals in said hospital and...
these people deserve to live and eat and clothe their children too.
 
2021-12-05 6:29:07 PM  
I want an employer that doesn't consider the lung-goo-choking-death of me and my whole family to be "just the price of doing business"

Luckily my employer isn't a piece of shiate. For the first time in my life.
 
2021-12-05 6:35:39 PM  
Money and semi-competent management
 
2021-12-05 6:48:23 PM  
You could start with bringing back the 40 hour week. Not 50 as a "normal" amount, 40 hours.
 
2021-12-05 6:49:08 PM  

skybird659: cretinbob: Most still aren't qualified to do more than flip burgers or fold sweaters

And yet you need someone flipping your burger and folding your sweater. And cleaning your toilet and changing the oil in your car and you're too lazy to mow your own lawn and change your bed linen wheny ou're in the hospital and wash the dishes from your meals in said hospital and...
these people deserve to live and eat and clothe their children too.


Absolutely
 
2021-12-05 6:54:35 PM  

Izunbacol: SpectroBoy: To make the most money possible for the least amount of work possible.

/duh

This is basically Econ 101. Employees want the most money for the least work.

Employers want the most work for the least money.

Buyers want the most product for the least price.  Sellers want the most money for the least product.

Work is a product for, employers are the buyers, employees are the sellers.

If you can't get anyone to buy your product, you've priced it too high.

If you can't find anyone to sell you a product, you're offering too little.

The best way to get the best price for your product is to band together with fellow sellers to ensure nobody sells for less.  This is either called "cartel" or a "union," depending on whether you're selling labor or goods. Whether it's a good or bad thing depends on whether you're buying or selling, but that's the cold reality of it.


No. Unions are good for everyone.

You'd know that if you actually did study economy, I think. Maybe it's only taught in nations where unions are a thing, I was taught it at econ at university in Denmark though.

What happends is that you reach a point of unionsation (new word, trademark me), where the employers and employees have overlapping desires. The work place is more fluid, wages are managed by the unions rather than the government (ie. Denmark and Sweden doesn't have a minimum wage. Any wage is legal.).
 
2021-12-05 6:57:46 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Some f*cking autonomy!

It's not enough that we have to sit through power-point demonstrations that stultify the mind and can be put in an e-mail, but they also have to be IN your business 24/7 because "you're never off the clock."

The f*ck I'm NOT!


I've gotten that myself.

"I sent you an email at 6pm! Why didn't you answer until 8:15 the next day?"

"Because I clock out at 4:30"

I'm an accountant. My boss and the couple of people in my immediate office have my cell phone number if there is really an emergency or they need some of my files after I leave. But more likely, it's just someone is calling in and sales doesn't want to f*** with it.

What do employees want? A fair wage, a predictable schedule so one can live their life around it, and non-sh**head bosses who defend the decisions of their subordinates. If Mr Walmart Labor Economist was so goddamn smart, he could speak to the big money and tell them that labor isn't fungible. And maybe have a public crucifixion of an MBA or two.
 
2021-12-05 7:00:08 PM  
I want my MTV
 
2021-12-05 7:16:06 PM  
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Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
 
2021-12-05 7:18:28 PM  
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2021-12-05 7:25:26 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Do you think we'll ever reach a point where robotics and automation will replace the vast majority of the world's workforce?  If so, will we have a universal basic income?


No, and no.

Because
1) That's not even what automation is used for and

2) Republicans
 
2021-12-05 7:29:30 PM  

bloobeary: I want to be the wacky workplace sitcom character who never gets fired no matter how much he farks up.

And I want a laugh track to go with it.


So you want to be my boss?
 
2021-12-05 7:44:32 PM  
Well, you can't have that, but if you're an American citizen you are entitled to: 
a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym--I'll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a kingsize Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi,
real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year's supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth 
and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick,
Rosemary's baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador,
a new mastadon,
a Maverick,
a Mustang,
a Montego,
a Merc Montclair,
a Mark IV,
a meteor,
a Mercedes,
an MG,
or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty,
a Maserati,
a Mac truck,
a Mazda,
a new Monza,
or a moped,
a Winnebago--Hell, a herd of Winnebago's we're giving 'em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby's arm holding an apple?
 
2021-12-05 7:46:50 PM  
This is one of the more thoughtful, introspective articles about The Big Quit. It's nice that the problems are being sussed out and identified.

Can any effective changes come of this insight in the work world? (and I don't mean giving all the jobs to robots)
 
2021-12-05 8:02:58 PM  
Im all for increased pay and all of the other goods.

What everyone fails to realize is that the workforce is just a big of a joke as the employers.
 
2021-12-05 8:09:12 PM  
Not sure what Americans want from a job.......but I can tell you that long hours, zero benefits and low wages probably aren't top of the list.
 
2021-12-05 8:09:39 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Do you think we'll ever reach a point where robotics and automation will replace the vast majority of the world's workforce?  If so, will we have a universal basic income?


More like what happened to the population of horses once they were no longer a primary source of travel and work. There's a lot less horses now, and there'll be a lot less humans once the rich have no need for them.
 
2021-12-05 8:11:53 PM  

bloobeary: I want to be the wacky workplace sitcom character who never gets fired no matter how much he farks up.

And I want a laugh track to go with it.


"I'm sorry, we can't afford a laugh track at this time. Howabout this mariachi band? They will follow you wherever you go and announce your arrival in every room you enter. Even the bathroom."
 
2021-12-05 8:14:50 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Do you think we'll ever reach a point where robotics and automation will replace the vast majority of the world's workforce?  If so, will we have a universal basic income?


If we want our economy to continue to be the global leader and we want to get more Americans out of poverty, we should be making major investments in public education so that we can fill more high-skilled job with domestic workers. One of our major problems is that decade after decade we pretend that 1950s-era manufacturing jobs that don't require a college degree and pay well enough to buy a home and raise two kids could come back. They are never coming back, and we should just let automation wipeout what still remains. A universal basic income may help people get out of poverty, but it won't help them build generational wealth. And that's why we need to invest far, far more in public education.
 
2021-12-05 8:15:05 PM  

MetaDeth: BunkyBrewman: Do you think we'll ever reach a point where robotics and automation will replace the vast majority of the world's workforce?  If so, will we have a universal basic income?

More like what happened to the population of horses once they were no longer a primary source of travel and work. There's a lot less horses now, and there'll be a lot less humans once the rich have no need for them.


Hello, Covid.
 
2021-12-05 8:19:39 PM  
Probably NOT the same things an employer wants from an employee.

The employer would love for the employee to spend all their waking hours thinking and worrying about work. The employee would like a life.
 
2021-12-05 8:26:38 PM  
No matter how much I get paid, I don't get paid enough for this shiat.
 
2021-12-05 8:31:23 PM  
All you can eat salad bar with purchase of steak and potato.   Well, it's what I want at least.
 
kab
2021-12-05 8:31:45 PM  
Remote work.
Good, hands off management.
Flexibility to wear different hats.
Good pay.
 
2021-12-05 8:49:00 PM  

BunkyBrewman: Do you think we'll ever reach a point where robotics and automation will replace the vast majority of the world's workforce?  If so, will we have a universal basic income?


Honestly, I would have thought that  was the most likely option six years ago.  Now it's clear we will fight each other and set back any kind of advancement.
 
2021-12-05 8:49:55 PM  

skybird659: cretinbob: Most still aren't qualified to do more than flip burgers or fold sweaters

And yet you need someone flipping your burger and folding your sweater. And cleaning your toilet and changing the oil in your car and you're too lazy to mow your own lawn and change your bed linen wheny ou're in the hospital and wash the dishes from your meals in said hospital and...
these people deserve to live and eat and clothe their children too.


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