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2021-12-05 6:08:16 AM  
Science of masturbation?
 
2021-12-05 6:12:21 AM  
I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.
 
2021-12-05 6:19:45 AM  

Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.


It never is. People have disturbing attachments and reverence to places connected to events, even though they know the event was what mattered, not the place. Especially when it comes to "someone famous once farted here" type things. Like this
 
2021-12-05 6:21:21 AM  

Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.


The only thing that burns me about stuff like this is loss of building materials.  I imagine nowadays they, hopefully, strip anything valuable before demo, I just can't help but picture a lot of of the wood and stone being trashed, rather than repurposed.

We looked at buying a historic home, there are a ton around here you can practically get for a song.

Which makes sense when you see the fortune it'll cost you to do any repairs and still be within the regulations you have to follow. I didn't want to do it either.

Those old growth heart pine floors, though...
 
2021-12-05 6:21:33 AM  
Yeah, back in the 70s some nights got pretty wild there. Between free-basing rice krispy treats and doing lines of crushed coco-puffs with Sam (Toucan), I stumbled into a room to find Tony the tiger getting absolutley railed by dig 'em the frog. All I could think to say was "hows it goin, 'Tone?"

You already know his answer.
 
2021-12-05 6:30:23 AM  
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2021-12-05 6:36:49 AM  

johnphantom: Science of masturbation?


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About that....
 
2021-12-05 6:43:55 AM  
That must be some definition of the word 'abandoned' that I'm unfamiliar with.
 
2021-12-05 6:47:55 AM  

Tchernobog: Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.

The only thing that burns me about stuff like this is loss of building materials.  I imagine nowadays they, hopefully, strip anything valuable before demo, I just can't help but picture a lot of of the wood and stone being trashed, rather than repurposed.

We looked at buying a historic home, there are a ton around here you can practically get for a song.

Which makes sense when you see the fortune it'll cost you to do any repairs and still be within the regulations you have to follow. I didn't want to do it either.

Those old growth heart pine floors, though...


To help stop the waste and to help out people in need, the Habitat for Humanity "Re-Store" is there to recycle valuable resources left over from demos or renos.

Habitat ReStores[edit]
"ReStore" redirects here. For other uses, see Restore.
Habitat ReStores are retail outlets that sell new and used building and household materials donated by small businesses, large companies, job sites, and individuals. Proceeds from ReStores help local affiliates fund the construction of Habitat houses within the community. Many affiliates across the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand operate successful ReStores-some of which raise enough funds to build an additional 10 or more houses per year.[13] Many ReStores cover the administrative costs of the Habitat affiliate so that 100% of donor funds can be put toward home construction and rehabilitation projects.

Check 'em out.  The have tons of gently-used furnishings and building materiel at a fraction of the cost of brand-new.
 
2021-12-05 6:52:08 AM  
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2021-12-05 7:04:06 AM  
"science"

LOL
 
2021-12-05 7:14:12 AM  
William Kellogg was the brother of Dr John Kellogg, the birthplace of what became the Kellogg company was the Battlecreek sanitarium in Michigan.

The Kellogg brothers hated each other William wanted to commercialize the breakfast cereal after the recipe was stolen by Post who was a patient there. The crack pot Doctor disagreed and there were law suits over who could use the Kellogg name.

This is just some retirement home not a place of real historic interest.
 
2021-12-05 7:27:44 AM  
You misspelled "the birthplace of fraudulent health claims by food marketers".  Something that continues to be profitable with the help of well-paid researchers.
 
2021-12-05 7:30:31 AM  

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Can confirm
 
2021-12-05 7:48:53 AM  

wax_on: That must be some definition of the word 'abandoned' that I'm unfamiliar with.


Apparently abandonment means recently vacated or not in use but still cared for but can still be moved into and used. I hate it when people misuse words.
 
2021-12-05 7:51:20 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Tchernobog: Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.

The only thing that burns me about stuff like this is loss of building materials.  I imagine nowadays they, hopefully, strip anything valuable before demo, I just can't help but picture a lot of of the wood and stone being trashed, rather than repurposed.

We looked at buying a historic home, there are a ton around here you can practically get for a song.

Which makes sense when you see the fortune it'll cost you to do any repairs and still be within the regulations you have to follow. I didn't want to do it either.

Those old growth heart pine floors, though...

To help stop the waste and to help out people in need, the Habitat for Humanity "Re-Store" is there to recycle valuable resources left over from demos or renos.

Habitat ReStores[edit]
"ReStore" redirects here. For other uses, see Restore.
Habitat ReStores are retail outlets that sell new and used building and household materials donated by small businesses, large companies, job sites, and individuals. Proceeds from ReStores help local affiliates fund the construction of Habitat houses within the community. Many affiliates across the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand operate successful ReStores-some of which raise enough funds to build an additional 10 or more houses per year.[13] Many ReStores cover the administrative costs of the Habitat affiliate so that 100% of donor funds can be put toward home construction and rehabilitation projects.

Check 'em out.  The have tons of gently-used furnishings and building materiel at a fraction of the cost of brand-new.


There was some schism at Habitat a while back, so you should also look to see if you have a 'Fuller Center' near you.

You can also check for 'architectural salvage' but there are two types-- non profits whose goals are rescuing materials and maybe some job training for disadvantaged people... and the for profit ones who do good things, but it's less 'a couple of windows we swapped out in our remodel', '10 year old appliances that we upgraded but are still in good shape', and more like 'if restoration hardware actually had old stuff, but might still be close to those sorts of prices'

I guess it's like the difference between a thrift store vs. a consignment shop or antique mall. All have random things that you can't predict, but the type of thing and general price ranges can vary dramatically.

There was even a reality show about people who worked at one of the for profit ones.  They also had a workshop so they sold tables snd other furniture that had been made out of barns, or chopped down church pews to more reasonable lengths.  It was like a less sleezy American Pickers (trying to figure out what stuff had resale value and could be removed in the time they had before the building was dropped), with some This Old House (trying to remove stuff without damaging it or killing them selves) and New Yankee Workshop (making the upcycled furniture) blended in.  Although the workshop stuff was more interesting than Norm's show, as although they'd make stuff to just put in their store and hope for a buyer, they'd also take on custom design work, so you'd learn a little bit about the other stuff going on in their area as they made signs for a restaurant or whatever.

If you're in the DC area, I highly recommend Community Forklift.  Although they need to just weed down their door supply to make room for better stuff.  (Admittedly, I haven't been there since the lockdowns, so maybe they have).  And they tend to price stuff to go, so the good stuff turns over pretty quick unless they get a huge lot (like school lockers). They have rolling sales, like doors one week, windows another, or everything with orange price tags.

Here are some pictures I took a couple years back, as it was easier than trying to explain it in words to someone

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Second Chance up in Baltimore is another great place-- they're a non-profit, but they have a massive warehouse and some really strange stuff. Fireplace mantels, spiral staircases, etc.  They tend to have a fair bit of furniture, and often have high end appliances and some restaurant equipment.  They also price things so there's an initial price, but it goes down on a specific date (14 of 28 days later?).  In some areas (like unhung doors), there's a guy who prices doors as you go.  (I once had to wait a while as there was a Mediterranean looking family, and the dad *really* wanted to haggle, as the teenage daughter just rolled her eyes)
 
2021-12-05 7:53:32 AM  

Tom_Slick: William Kellogg was the brother of Dr John Kellogg, the birthplace of what became the Kellogg company was the Battlecreek sanitarium in Michigan.

The Kellogg brothers hated each other William wanted to commercialize the breakfast cereal after the recipe was stolen by Post who was a patient there. The crack pot Doctor disagreed and there were law suits over who could use the Kellogg name.

This is just some retirement home not a place of real historic interest.


The Surprisingly Dramatic Origin of Corn Flakes (feat. Owen Wilson & Luke Wilson) - Drunk History
Youtube NMdA38eF-mw
 
2021-12-05 8:02:40 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Tchernobog: Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.

The only thing that burns me about stuff like this is loss of building materials.  I imagine nowadays they, hopefully, strip anything valuable before demo, I just can't help but picture a lot of of the wood and stone being trashed, rather than repurposed.

We looked at buying a historic home, there are a ton around here you can practically get for a song.

Which makes sense when you see the fortune it'll cost you to do any repairs and still be within the regulations you have to follow. I didn't want to do it either.

Those old growth heart pine floors, though...

To help stop the waste and to help out people in need, the Habitat for Humanity "Re-Store" is there to recycle valuable resources left over from demos or renos.

Habitat ReStores[edit]
"ReStore" redirects here. For other uses, see Restore.
Habitat ReStores are retail outlets that sell new and used building and household materials donated by small businesses, large companies, job sites, and individuals. Proceeds from ReStores help local affiliates fund the construction of Habitat houses within the community. Many affiliates across the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand operate successful ReStores-some of which raise enough funds to build an additional 10 or more houses per year.[13] Many ReStores cover the administrative costs of the Habitat affiliate so that 100% of donor funds can be put toward home construction and rehabilitation projects.

Check 'em out.  The have tons of gently-used furnishings and building materiel at a fraction of the cost of brand-new.


+1

If you're looking for hard goods (tables, chairs, bed frames, etc) you'll find some amazing stuff for cheap. I got a 1940s oak dining table for $60 and 4 mission oak chairs for $15 each.
 
2021-12-05 8:03:01 AM  
Oh, and my slow-going bathroom renovation with the tiles from Community Forklift:

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/my first 'on my own, not assisting someone who knows what they're doing' tile job
//has learned that differences in tile thickness is way more of a problem than width
///and tiles with sharper edges are way less forgiving
 
2021-12-05 8:04:41 AM  
The place where Dr Kellogg never consummated his marriage and died a virgin?
 
2021-12-05 8:13:03 AM  

MWShannon: wax_on: That must be some definition of the word 'abandoned' that I'm unfamiliar with.

Apparently abandonment means recently vacated or not in use but still cared for but can still be moved into and used. I hate it when people misuse words.


It's not misuse, it's a word hack!
 
2021-12-05 8:16:35 AM  

cheap_thoughts: The place where Dr Kellogg never consummated his marriage and died a virgin?


He denied her his essence?
 
2021-12-05 8:19:41 AM  
I'm not going to say there were some pretty damned intense breakfast themed orgies up in that biatch, but I will say is that they should probably disinfect everything before demo just in case.
 
2021-12-05 8:20:05 AM  
This is the same dude who sliced a girl's clit off to stop her masturbating, right?
 
2021-12-05 8:34:09 AM  

Bondith: This is the same dude who sliced a girl's clit off to stop her masturbating, right?


No that's crack pot Doctor brother
 
2021-12-05 8:38:43 AM  
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2021-12-05 8:40:39 AM  
The Road to Wellville is a great movie.
 
2021-12-05 8:45:16 AM  
Serves that bigot right for threatening to out Captain Crunch.

He'd have been Admiral Crunch if "Don't ask, don't tell" had been in place.
 
2021-12-05 8:52:46 AM  

Tchernobog: Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.

The only thing that burns me about stuff like this is loss of building materials.  I imagine nowadays they, hopefully, strip anything valuable before demo, I just can't help but picture a lot of of the wood and stone being trashed, rather than repurposed.

We looked at buying a historic home, there are a ton around here you can practically get for a song.

Which makes sense when you see the fortune it'll cost you to do any repairs and still be within the regulations you have to follow. I didn't want to do it either.

Those old growth heart pine floors, though...


A company around here took down some old (not historic) homes for what will eventually be their corporate headquarters. They had someone come in and disassemble the houses for reuse, less than 5% of the materials went to the landfill. They didn't have to do that, but they have a conscience.
 
2021-12-05 8:56:17 AM  
His brother, John Harvey Kellogg, was a monster. There is a Behind the Bastards podcast about him.
 
2021-12-05 9:01:05 AM  

desertfool: Tchernobog: Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.

The only thing that burns me about stuff like this is loss of building materials.  I imagine nowadays they, hopefully, strip anything valuable before demo, I just can't help but picture a lot of of the wood and stone being trashed, rather than repurposed.

We looked at buying a historic home, there are a ton around here you can practically get for a song.

Which makes sense when you see the fortune it'll cost you to do any repairs and still be within the regulations you have to follow. I didn't want to do it either.

Those old growth heart pine floors, though...

A company around here took down some old (not historic) homes for what will eventually be their corporate headquarters. They had someone come in and disassemble the houses for reuse, less than 5% of the materials went to the landfill. They didn't have to do that, but they have a conscience.


Not sure the Kelloggs like the idea of giving wood to people who can't get wood.
 
2021-12-05 9:07:02 AM  
A building that's over 25 years old? This is Murica, dammit! Tear that shiat down!
 
2021-12-05 9:07:40 AM  
Hasn't nearly everything Kellog said about nutrition been proven wrong?
 
2021-12-05 9:32:01 AM  

stoli n coke: Serves that bigot right for threatening to out Captain Crunch.

He'd have been Admiral Crunch if "Don't ask, don't tell" had been in place.


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2021-12-05 9:43:32 AM  
I understood that reference.

/peak Bridget Fonda
 
2021-12-05 9:43:54 AM  

lifeslammer: Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.

It never is. People have disturbing attachments and reverence to places connected to events, even though they know the event was what mattered, not the place. Especially when it comes to "someone famous once farted here" type things. Like this


You know how I know you are in no way whatsoever affiliated with a historical society?
 
2021-12-05 9:49:10 AM  

Oneiros: Oh, and my slow-going bathroom renovation with the tiles from Community Forklift:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

/my first 'on my own, not assisting someone who knows what they're doing' tile job
//has learned that differences in tile thickness is way more of a problem than width
///and tiles with sharper edges are way less forgiving


Hey I have those light gray tiles.  Part of our backsplash.
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It was also my first tile project!
 
2021-12-05 9:53:27 AM  

big pig peaches: Hasn't nearly everything Kellog said about nutrition been proven wrong?


Yes.  What is being knocked down is better called the birthplace of malnutrition science.
 
2021-12-05 9:55:03 AM  
Personally, I think it looks crazy good. Kinda of an off track Art Deco thing  I wouldn't have to be forced to live in it, if I could afford it.
 
2021-12-05 10:00:29 AM  
Figures that you lot of chronic masturbators would be okay with this.
 
2021-12-05 10:26:16 AM  

InfoFreako: Figures that you lot of chronic masturbators would be okay with this.


It's funny, but the vanity of a mansion like this is mastubatory.
 
2021-12-05 10:37:22 AM  

Tom_Slick: William wanted to commercialize the breakfast cereal after the recipe was stolen by Post who was a patient there.


And from that Post cereal fortune, Post heiress Marjorie Merriweather Post built a mansion in Florida, that eventually became Mar-a-lago.

/ALL evil comes from corn flakes
 
2021-12-05 10:50:15 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Tchernobog: Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.

The only thing that burns me about stuff like this is loss of building materials.  I imagine nowadays they, hopefully, strip anything valuable before demo, I just can't help but picture a lot of of the wood and stone being trashed, rather than repurposed.

We looked at buying a historic home, there are a ton around here you can practically get for a song.

Which makes sense when you see the fortune it'll cost you to do any repairs and still be within the regulations you have to follow. I didn't want to do it either.

Those old growth heart pine floors, though...

To help stop the waste and to help out people in need, the Habitat for Humanity "Re-Store" is there to recycle valuable resources left over from demos or renos.

Habitat ReStores[edit]
"ReStore" redirects here. For other uses, see Restore.
Habitat ReStores are retail outlets that sell new and used building and household materials donated by small businesses, large companies, job sites, and individuals. Proceeds from ReStores help local affiliates fund the construction of Habitat houses within the community. Many affiliates across the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand operate successful ReStores-some of which raise enough funds to build an additional 10 or more houses per year.[13] Many ReStores cover the administrative costs of the Habitat affiliate so that 100% of donor funds can be put toward home construction and rehabilitation projects.

Check 'em out.  The have tons of gently-used furnishings and building materiel at a fraction of the cost of brand-new.


About Habitat.....

The HfH here in Pensacola rather than providing low income housing, was caught selling a number of the better properties to an Alabama realtor friend of the board at a very very low ball price.

No public offer, just a sweetheart deal.  Those properties are now being used as, you guessed it, rentals.  Also something about entire families on the payroll at grossly inflated wages.

Corruption sucks but that's where we are.
 
2021-12-05 10:51:32 AM  
Fark I am disappoint:

"What do you mean, why's it got to be built?" he said. "It's a bypass. You've got to build bypasses."
 
2021-12-05 10:57:02 AM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: /ALL evil comes from corn flakes


Blood for the blood god!
Khorne for the Khorne flakes!
 
2021-12-05 11:02:25 AM  
Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?
 
2021-12-05 11:03:55 AM  

Snort: The Road to Wellville is a great movie.


What I wouldn't give to have a medical degree that allowed me to get paid like $400 an hour to give women orgasms.  What was that profession, uteran masseuse?
 
2021-12-05 11:24:02 AM  

Oneiros: Day_Old_Dutchie: Tchernobog: Lsherm: I went through the slideshow. This isn't a big loss.

The only thing that burns me about stuff like this is loss of building materials.  I imagine nowadays they, hopefully, strip anything valuable before demo, I just can't help but picture a lot of of the wood and stone being trashed, rather than repurposed.

We looked at buying a historic home, there are a ton around here you can practically get for a song.

Which makes sense when you see the fortune it'll cost you to do any repairs and still be within the regulations you have to follow. I didn't want to do it either.

Those old growth heart pine floors, though...

To help stop the waste and to help out people in need, the Habitat for Humanity "Re-Store" is there to recycle valuable resources left over from demos or renos.

Habitat ReStores[edit]
"ReStore" redirects here. For other uses, see Restore.
Habitat ReStores are retail outlets that sell new and used building and household materials donated by small businesses, large companies, job sites, and individuals. Proceeds from ReStores help local affiliates fund the construction of Habitat houses within the community. Many affiliates across the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand operate successful ReStores-some of which raise enough funds to build an additional 10 or more houses per year.[13] Many ReStores cover the administrative costs of the Habitat affiliate so that 100% of donor funds can be put toward home construction and rehabilitation projects.

Check 'em out.  The have tons of gently-used furnishings and building materiel at a fraction of the cost of brand-new.

There was some schism at Habitat a while back, so you should also look to see if you have a 'Fuller Center' near you.

You can also check for 'architectural salvage' but there are two types-- non profits whose goals are rescuing materials and maybe some job training for disadvantaged people... and the for profit ones who do good things, but it's less 'a couple of windows we swapped out in our remodel', '10 year old appliances that we upgraded but are still in good shape', and more like 'if restoration hardware actually had old stuff, but might still be close to those sorts of prices'

I guess it's like the difference between a thrift store vs. a consignment shop or antique mall. All have random things that you can't predict, but the type of thing and general price ranges can vary dramatically.

There was even a reality show about people who worked at one of the for profit ones.  They also had a workshop so they sold tables snd other furniture that had been made out of barns, or chopped down church pews to more reasonable lengths.  It was like a less sleezy American Pickers (trying to figure out what stuff had resale value and could be removed in the time they had before the building was dropped), with some This Old House (trying to remove stuff without damaging it or killing them selves) and New Yankee Workshop (making the upcycled furniture) blended in.  Although the workshop stuff was more interesting than Norm's show, as although they'd make stuff to just put in their store and hope for a buyer, they'd also take on custom design work, so you'd learn a little bit about the other stuff going on in their area as they made signs for a restaurant or whatever.

If you're in the DC area, I highly recommend Community Forklift.  Although they need to just weed down their door supply to make room for better stuff.  (Admittedly, I haven't been there since the lockdowns, so maybe they have).  And they tend to price stuff to go, so the good stuff turns over pretty quick unless they get a huge lot (like school lockers). They have rolling sales, like doors one week, windows another, or everything with orange price tags.

Here are some pictures I took a couple years back, as it was easier than trying to explain it in words to someone

[Fark user image image 425x318]
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[Fark user image image 425x318]
[Fark user image image 425x318]

Second Chance up in Baltimore is another great place-- they're a non-profit, but they have a massive warehouse and some really strange stuff. Fireplace mantels, spiral staircases, etc.  They tend to have a fair bit of furniture, and often have high end appliances and some restaurant equipment.  They also price things so there's an initial price, but it goes down on a specific date (14 of 28 days later?).  In some areas (like unhung doors), there's a guy who prices doors as you go.  (I once had to wait a while as there was a Mediterranean looking family, and the dad *really* wanted to haggle, as the teenage daughter just rolled her eyes)


Are those pictures the warehouse near smtih/9th st station in gowanus (big reuse i think it was called)?  They had good shiate there.
 
2021-12-05 11:24:56 AM  

Oneiros: Oh, and my slow-going bathroom renovation with the tiles from Community Forklift:

[Fark user image image 425x566]

/my first 'on my own, not assisting someone who knows what they're doing' tile job
//has learned that differences in tile thickness is way more of a problem than width
///and tiles with sharper edges are way less forgiving


FWIW look into Raimondi tile leveling systems or similar products. I used to install tile until 25 years ago but occasionally do jobs for myself and friends and family. Recently I remodeled my mom's bathroom and installed a walk-in shower and these systems are great for dealing with "lippage". It took less time and got a better fit than the bathroom floor install I did in my own bathroom 5 years ago.
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2021-12-05 11:26:39 AM  

Chainsaw Turd Elf: His brother, John Harvey Kellogg, was a monster. There is a Behind the Bastards podcast about him.


Love Behind the Bastards and recommend it to everyone. Spoiler: There are a ton of bastards!
 
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