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2021-12-04 1:01:28 PM  
1. "The customer is always right" is from way before the boomers, junior. Way, way before.
3. Racism. Again, this was around long before the boomers, and still exists in the current generation, no matter how much they smugly pretend it doesn't.
4. I was working with technology before you were born. I'm fine with it. I just need help with this one thing.
5. Politics -- there are many boomer who don't vote Republican. They're not a single voting bloc.

... and a bunch of other whining where they try to blame an entire generation for the behavior of some, and try to blame boomers for bad things all generations do.

Special note: 16. Recant? That word does not mean what you think it means. Look it up in a dictionary, like a stuffy old boomer would.
 
2021-12-04 1:08:49 PM  
"Their politics that serve no one but the very wealthy. I don't know why they consistently vote against their own best interest out of spite."

That's an easy one.  Divine favor - they're rich because God favors them and wants them to be rich.  If I support that, God will make me rich one day too.

Ridiculous.
 
2021-12-04 2:16:55 PM  
#2 If I am paying you to work, and you agreed to take payment to work, I expect you to work. If my 45 year old ass can out hustle you, something is wrong
 
2021-12-04 2:32:29 PM  
This thread again?

Calling instead of texting

Okay, that one made me laugh. It does explain why people don't accept interviews.
 
2021-12-04 3:11:12 PM  
...said every generation ever!
 
2021-12-04 3:26:53 PM  

Ass_Master_Flash: #2 If I am paying you to work, and you agreed to take payment to work, I expect you to work. If my 45 year old ass can out hustle you, something is wrong


My god, THIS.  I don't expect people to give their entire lives to their jobs.  Being expected to do your job for the 8 hours a day I pay you, and not have your friends come in the back door to hang out and shoot the shiat with you for a few hours, or not going to the server room to spend a couple hours f*cking around texting with your friends, is not asking you to give up your life for your job.  Show up when you're supposed to.  Stay your entire shift.

Work when you're here.  F*ck around on your own time.  It's not that difficult.

And yet...
 
2021-12-04 4:22:56 PM  
As an old person, I would like to say, Get Off of My Internet Lawn!

Listen, I've been on the internet since the invention of the web browser.   I bought my first computer, the first Mac with an internal hard drive of twenty whole MB back in 1990. (cost $3,000.00 which is insane).

I've been here since back when going on the net was a big giant pain in the ass.  Everything took forever.  Watching a video?  Streaming?  You have to be kidding.  You kids just don't know the trouble I've seen.

Of course, most of my fellow oldsters voted for Trump, which I don't get at all.
 
2021-12-04 5:10:26 PM  
I'd just like to point out that MamaFitzsimmons was putting avocado on our toast (and rice cakes) in the late 1970s and early 80s. It is not even remotely new or exciting.
 
2021-12-04 5:12:25 PM  
Every time I see some idiot post a picture of 60's kids on bikes and saying " This is how we had fun before technology." I point out that bikes are technology.
 
2021-12-04 5:13:09 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Ass_Master_Flash: #2 If I am paying you to work, and you agreed to take payment to work, I expect you to work. If my 45 year old ass can out hustle you, something is wrong

My god, THIS.  I don't expect people to give their entire lives to their jobs.  Being expected to do your job for the 8 hours a day I pay you, and not have your friends come in the back door to hang out and shoot the shiat with you for a few hours, or not going to the server room to spend a couple hours f*cking around texting with your friends, is not asking you to give up your life for your job.  Show up when you're supposed to.  Stay your entire shift.

Work when you're here.  F*ck around on your own time.  It's not that difficult.

And yet...


I believe that particular point is more for the ever increasing number of jobs requiring 12 hour shifts five to six days a week while always requiring you be available even when you're off, and unpaid overtime. I haven't worked a regular 9-5 job in nearly ten years. They're almost all 10-12 hour shifts now unless you're working part time at a fast food joint. It's getting ridiculous.
 
2021-12-04 5:20:38 PM  

Esroc: Benevolent Misanthrope: Ass_Master_Flash: #2 If I am paying you to work, and you agreed to take payment to work, I expect you to work. If my 45 year old ass can out hustle you, something is wrong

My god, THIS.  I don't expect people to give their entire lives to their jobs.  Being expected to do your job for the 8 hours a day I pay you, and not have your friends come in the back door to hang out and shoot the shiat with you for a few hours, or not going to the server room to spend a couple hours f*cking around texting with your friends, is not asking you to give up your life for your job.  Show up when you're supposed to.  Stay your entire shift.

Work when you're here.  F*ck around on your own time.  It's not that difficult.

And yet...

I believe that particular point is more for the ever increasing number of jobs requiring 12 hour shifts five to six days a week while always requiring you be available even when you're off, and unpaid overtime. I haven't worked a regular 9-5 job in nearly ten years. They're almost all 10-12 hour shifts now unless you're working part time at a fast food joint. It's getting ridiculous.


Break time's over, get back to work.
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2021-12-04 5:22:25 PM  
As someone who dialed a rotary phone in the dorm room and cast my first vote for President in 1984, this excerpt is gorgeous:

"...Damn, you could buy a house for the price of a coffee, whereas we're stuck in the rent cycle for years, then shamed for little pleasures like avocado toast."
 
2021-12-04 5:41:55 PM  
This one made me laugh: "17.The 'We went through it, and so do you!' mentality."

It's actually good advice. Expecting instant gratification always, or thinking you don't have to work up a ladder to succeed or build character, is an immature way of thinking and living, and will lead to disappointment and resentment. Most everybody except for the trust fund set pays dues. Again, this is nothing new, and boomers didn't invent it.
 
2021-12-04 6:12:29 PM  

dodecahedron: This one made me laugh: "17.The 'We went through it, and so do you!' mentality."

It's actually good advice. Expecting instant gratification always, or thinking you don't have to work up a ladder to succeed or build character, is an immature way of thinking and living, and will lead to disappointment and resentment. Most everybody except for the trust fund set pays dues. Again, this is nothing new, and boomers didn't invent it.


I think they meant more, "I had to suffer through x bullshiat, therefore so should you" as far as it comes to progressing as a society and a nation. College tuition costs, student loan debt, and single payer healthcare are big ones that get that kind of mentality.
 
2021-12-04 6:15:50 PM  

bingethinker: 1. "The customer is always right" is from way before the boomers, junior. Way, way before.
3. Racism. Again, this was around long before the boomers, and still exists in the current generation, no matter how much they smugly pretend it doesn't.
4. I was working with technology before you were born. I'm fine with it. I just need help with this one thing.
5. Politics -- there are many boomer who don't vote Republican. They're not a single voting bloc.

... and a bunch of other whining where they try to blame an entire generation for the behavior of some, and try to blame boomers for bad things all generations do.

Special note: 16. Recant? That word does not mean what you think it means. Look it up in a dictionary, like a stuffy old boomer would.


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2021-12-04 6:23:43 PM  
Oh, look. The Millennials and the Boomers are fighting again.

Whatever.
 
2021-12-04 6:35:35 PM  

Ass_Master_Flash: #2 If I am paying you to work, and you agreed to take payment to work, I expect you to work. If my 45 year old ass can out hustle you, something is wrong


Especially in IT I'm 62 and 40+ Hour work weeks are the norm. Yes everyone is entitled to have a personal life but if you chose a profession where you don't, that's on you.
 
2021-12-04 6:37:43 PM  

Gordon Bennett: Oh, look. The Millennials and the Boomers are fighting again.

Whatever.


Nevermind.
 
2021-12-04 6:57:45 PM  
4."Being completely ignorant when it comes to technology. My father refuses to even get Wi-Fi and any kind of computer at home..."

This is not true of everyone from that generation.

My mom was perfectly happy to try new technology, though she did get frustrated from time to time. (But who hasn't?)

My dad, however, is pretty much the personification of this.

He's been using a Kindle for years, which is a minor miracle, but for the first several years, he would call me with a list of books he wanted me to add for him.

I finally got him to knock that crap off, but damned if he doesn't ask me regularly what his available gift card balance is and send me a check as-needed to replenish his account. (He's never had a credit card, and I don't blame him for that, but he really could do his own damn gift cards.)
 
2021-12-04 6:58:53 PM  
We asked the BuzzFeed Community

"The BuzzFeed Community" is what they call scraping r/popular for content.
 
2021-12-04 7:01:58 PM  

dodecahedron: This one made me laugh: "17.The 'We went through it, and so do you!' mentality."

It's actually good advice. Expecting instant gratification always, or thinking you don't have to work up a ladder to succeed or build character, is an immature way of thinking and living, and will lead to disappointment and resentment. Most everybody except for the trust fund set pays dues. Again, this is nothing new, and boomers didn't invent it.


I used to work for a university so I met a lot of younger people, especially when I was taking classes. One woman graduated, got a fantastic offer from a small start-up, and promptly got herself fired on her fourth day. Even though she's the only one I've heard tell the story so she makes herself out as the hero, it's still incomprehensible to me:

She started work at a company that had less than 40 employees. On day one, she decided her manager didn't know what he was doing, so she hatched a plan to go above his head, but the only person "above his head" was the CEO and founder, who went to college with her manager. She spent her second and part of her third day itemizing everything she felt her manager was doing wrong and fired off an email to the CEO at the end of her third day. She got an email that night from the CEO that said "let's meet tomorrow and talk about this."

I'm not sure if the CEO was going to give her a second shot or not, but she walked into the meeting with her list of complaints and said at the beginning (she quotes herself when telling the story) "If we can fix these issues I think YOUR company will be ready to go to the next level." That, apparently, was the end of the meeting.

When she tells this story she frames it like the CEO and her manager are old fuddy-duddies who will never get a company off the ground. But that company is still in business and the CEO and manager were all of 38 years old. The first time she told it to me I was flabbergasted, but since I'm even older than the CEO I thought maybe I was misreading the situation. Then she told it to a group of people while we were out for drinks and even the early 20's people were like "You told the CEO of a company that just hired you how to improve his company?"

I don't think this is a generational problem across the board. I just think that some parents have gamed the system (as you'd expect) to such a degree that some people grow up never experiencing failure. They get tutors, personal coaches, and any other resource to succeed and they grow up feeling infallible. It was a wealthy university, I doubt poor kids develop the same way.
 
2021-12-04 7:34:20 PM  
I almost wish I could be around when Gen Z are parents of teenagers and young adults to see what attack strategy their kids use to shiat on them. Almost.
 
2021-12-04 7:47:40 PM  
As a boomer socialist, I take offense at these stereotypes.
 
2021-12-04 7:52:27 PM  

foo monkey: We asked the BuzzFeed Community

"The BuzzFeed Community" is what they call scraping r/popular for content.


Buzzfeed: Because you can't be bothered to read Reddit or Twitter.

Yahoo: What's Buzzfeed, Reddit or Twitter?
 
2021-12-04 7:58:47 PM  

UncleDirtNap: Ass_Master_Flash: #2 If I am paying you to work, and you agreed to take payment to work, I expect you to work. If my 45 year old ass can out hustle you, something is wrong

Especially in IT I'm 62 and 40+ Hour work weeks are the norm. Yes everyone is entitled to have a personal life but if you chose a profession where you don't, that's on you.


What if it wasn't that way when you started said profession?  My own experience with that was when I worked for a small mom & pop vending company.  40 - 45 hours over 5 days a week.  Very manageable.  Then a big vending company bought us out.  Days went from 8 to 9 hours to 12 to 13 because we had to do more work like inventory our machines and trucks daily.. We were salary so they didn't care if we were working more.  You had stops that worked Saturdays and Sundays?  Guess what, you now work 7 days a week.  This isn't an exaggeration.  This is what happened to me.  Canteen was the name of the company that bought us.  Look them up.  About 1 month after the switch over every person working there, including myself, had quit.  Your point doesn't hold up if the people in charge decide they want more out of you for the same price they are paying you.
 
2021-12-04 8:11:36 PM  
I'm not saying we don't have our share of racists, but when some jaw-dropping thing happens, it's just as likely to be Justyn Snauflake, age 26 or Sulky McGennex, age 50.  Racism hasn't magically disappeared just because you started to take notice of it.  And those fat old good old dumb old boys in the photos from the 60s are probly from 'The Greatest Generation'.  Just give up your stereotypes.  Assholes abound, and they're just as rife in your cohort.
 
2021-12-04 9:56:27 PM  

edmo: This thread again?

Calling instead of texting

Okay, that one made me laugh. It does explain why people don't accept interviews.


I & my father are the opposite: I have one eye. If I'm away from the house during my quarterly dr. appointments, I absolutely can NOT get him to call instead of text. I hook my phone up to my radio so I can answer calls (I've had appointments moved/canceled during the 1.5hr trip), and with one eye while driving a 5spd in 70mph interstate traffic, I can't afford to text & drive, or even take my eye off the road for a split second. I can, however, push the glowing blue "Answer" button in my peripheral vision.

But noooOOOOoooo. He'd rather I die in a fiery wreck than have a 15 second long phone call.
 
2021-12-04 10:03:23 PM  
I'm in my 70s and there wasn't a single trait which that article ascribed to Boomers that I shared. I think the whole Blame the Boomers thing is Russian agit-prop. Don't be an asshole and start with the blood guilt stuff.
 
2021-12-04 10:34:52 PM  

Jesus McSordid: As a boomer socialist, I take offense at these stereotypes.


Your one of "the good ones"
/lol
 
2021-12-04 10:36:55 PM  
11."Whining about how millennials and Gen Z are all entitled brats because we got participation trophies. Yeah, we got them, but you were the ones down at the trophy shop buying them for us. Reap what you sow."

/ damn straight
/ at we thought that they where lame and a waste
 
2021-12-04 10:47:20 PM  

Robinfro: I have one eye.


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2021-12-04 11:05:25 PM  

bingethinker: 1. "The customer is always right" is from way before the boomers, junior. Way, way before.
3. Racism. Again, this was around long before the boomers, and still exists in the current generation, no matter how much they smugly pretend it doesn't.
4. I was working with technology before you were born. I'm fine with it. I just need help with this one thing.
5. Politics -- there are many boomer who don't vote Republican. They're not a single voting bloc.

... and a bunch of other whining where they try to blame an entire generation for the behavior of some, and try to blame boomers for bad things all generations do.

Special note: 16. Recant? That word does not mean what you think it means. Look it up in a dictionary, like a stuffy old boomer would.


If they can crank out a thousand articles calling every other generation entitled, lazy whiners, we can call shiatty things that they do tends of theirs.
 
2021-12-05 2:42:32 AM  
Lsherm:
She started work at a company that had less than 40 employees. On day one, she decided her manager didn't know what he was doing, so she hatched a plan to go above his head, but the only person "above his head" was the CEO and founder, who went to college with her manager. She spent her second and part of her third day itemizing everything she felt her manager was doing wrong and fired off an email to the CEO at the end of her third day. She got an email that night from the CEO that said "let's meet tomorrow and talk about this."


When someone invites you into their home, the first thing you say shouldn't be, "Your wife is ugly."
 
2021-12-05 3:15:27 AM  
Born 1956. It's time we left political office. No one should be allowed to hold any elected or appointed office after 70. Yes, there are some good people, but we need to pry and break their glommy little fingers if necessary. And, they sure as hell should not be allowed to be addressed as/use a title of office if they are not the current incumbent. We need new, fresh ideas & people. Maybe in business, too. Enforced retirement is necessary to help clean up, well, everything.
 
2021-12-05 5:09:54 AM  

invictus2: Jesus McSordid: As a boomer socialist, I take offense at these stereotypes.

Your one of "the good ones"
/lol


How very ironic that my generation stands accused of bigotry, and there are those who would automatically prejudge every individual member of my cohort.
Yeah, I'm OK. also, the thing about tech helplessness? I'm sitting here at my desk with two high-end laptop, one my own and one my employer's, with a 43" 4K monitor, and I do know how to use them. I've been in It for the past 46 years, and I have kept up to date all that time. I sit way to the left on any chart of political inclination. I vote Green and would happily pay more tax to combat climate change. I want the low paid to get more, and billionaires to pay 75% or more of their profits in tax. I want corporations to pay a fair rate of tax and to be forced to treat their employees with dignity and fairness.
Do I have any racial biases? That would not be for me to answer, because there are too many who claim not to, yet clearly do. But I hope I'm not a serious offender. I was raised in an environment of rampant bigotry, racial, gender related, and utterly homophobic and transphobic. I feel like I've overcome that conditioning, but I cant judge for myself.
I drink too much and exercise too little, and as a result I'm overweight, and less fit than I would like to be. So there's that. I'm impatient with idiots and pro-plaguers, who put at risk the public safety for selfish reasons of their own, and of whom I fortunately know none.
Maybe take aim at me for my more obvious flaws rather than lumping me in with hundreds of millions of other old farkers. My generation, taken as a whole, has been an utter disaster for the future of the planet and the human race, and I had my part in that, but you don't get to judge me or who I am now.
 
2021-12-05 5:25:38 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Robinfro: I have one eye.

[Fark user image image 850x77]


Worse: I'm a lopsided Cyclops that's righthanded for writing, pistol shooting, and vidya games.

I was a lefty for archery, rifle shooting, bowling, car repair, and high-speed cooking while juggling multiple skillets.

Now I'm all:
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2021-12-05 7:55:00 AM  

Fireproof: bingethinker: 1. "The customer is always right" is from way before the boomers, junior. Way, way before.
3. Racism. Again, this was around long before the boomers, and still exists in the current generation, no matter how much they smugly pretend it doesn't.
4. I was working with technology before you were born. I'm fine with it. I just need help with this one thing.
5. Politics -- there are many boomer who don't vote Republican. They're not a single voting bloc.

... and a bunch of other whining where they try to blame an entire generation for the behavior of some, and try to blame boomers for bad things all generations do.

Special note: 16. Recant? That word does not mean what you think it means. Look it up in a dictionary, like a stuffy old boomer would.

If they can crank out a thousand articles calling every other generation entitled, lazy whiners, we can call shiatty things that they do tends of theirs.


Oh, like Reader's Digest.
 
2021-12-05 8:21:03 AM  
Once again I have to thank Fark and whatever modmin greened this for promoting infighting and discourse amongst it's user base.

It's what Drew was hoping for when he started Fark.

Nothing better than hating someone because of what year they were born.

Keep it up.
 
2021-12-05 10:31:35 AM  

yakmans_dad: I'm in my 70s and there wasn't a single trait which that article ascribed to Boomers that I shared. I think the whole Blame the Boomers thing is Russian agit-prop. Don't be an asshole and start with the blood guilt stuff.


Stereotypical boomer-bashing is a Fark tradition. Ageism is one of the "isms" still tolerated and even encouraged here, without any moderation or repercussion. Same goes for blanket stereotyping of any other generation on Fark.
 
2021-12-05 10:34:32 AM  

Lurk Who's Talking: Born 1956. It's time we left political office. No one should be allowed to hold any elected or appointed office after 70. Yes, there are some good people, but we need to pry and break their glommy little fingers if necessary. And, they sure as hell should not be allowed to be addressed as/use a title of office if they are not the current incumbent. We need new, fresh ideas & people. Maybe in business, too. Enforced retirement is necessary to help clean up, well, everything.


Generations of Native Americans and Chinese laugh at your short-sightedness. Wisdom of the elders is a thing. Not all elders are wise, but the ones that are add value. So, sorry, but fark your suggestion. Limit leaving political office to people of ANY age who aren't contributing productively.
 
2021-12-05 2:11:09 PM  
Gen X baby.....YEAH
 
2021-12-05 6:05:34 PM  

bingethinker: 1. "The customer is always right" is from way before the boomers, junior. Way, way before.
3. Racism. Again, this was around long before the boomers, and still exists in the current generation, no matter how much they smugly pretend it doesn't.
4. I was working with technology before you were born. I'm fine with it. I just need help with this one thing.
5. Politics -- there are many boomer who don't vote Republican. They're not a single voting bloc.

... and a bunch of other whining where they try to blame an entire generation for the behavior of some, and try to blame boomers for bad things all generations do.

Special note: 16. Recant? That word does not mean what you think it means. Look it up in a dictionary, like a stuffy old boomer would.


Wow this article really triggered you huh?
 
2021-12-05 6:11:37 PM  
Wholeheartedly agree with the yard work obsession. It's a residential yard, not a f*cking golf course.

I live next to a dude with some hardcore lawn OCD. Mows multiple times a week, picks up every single leaf or piece of debris with his little rubber gloves, and even hand-trims the sidewalk edging with a little electric scissor-looking thing. A few weeks ago during peak fall, in a neighborhood with some seriously big trees, his yard was completely leaf-free. That's gotta be the mark of a sociopath.
 
2021-12-05 6:24:56 PM  

InfoFreako: I almost wish I could be around when Gen Z are parents of teenagers and young adults to see what attack strategy their kids use to shiat on them. Almost.


They'll be blamed for Trump, just like they blame boomers for Reagan. I hope some of them remember saying this and realizing how wrong they were..
 
2021-12-05 7:10:47 PM  
Jeeze, kind of a long list. I'm a boomer and I don't do any of those things. Not all boomers are idiots.
 
2021-12-05 7:29:45 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Ass_Master_Flash: #2 If I am paying you to work, and you agreed to take payment to work, I expect you to work. If my 45 year old ass can out hustle you, something is wrong

My god, THIS.  I don't expect people to give their entire lives to their jobs.  Being expected to do your job for the 8 hours a day I pay you, and not have your friends come in the back door to hang out and shoot the shiat with you for a few hours, or not going to the server room to spend a couple hours f*cking around texting with your friends, is not asking you to give up your life for your job.  Show up when you're supposed to.  Stay your entire shift.

Work when you're here.  F*ck around on your own time.  It's not that difficult.

And yet...


?????????????
(I'm 47)
What are you going on about????
Seriously.

I've had all kinds of jobs.
And only fast food sounds like you.
All other jobs have been completely different.

I remember going and spending hours talking to the video game cashier and other customer.  It was like Cheers.


Auto body shop? Hooker hung out there one time.
Server room? watched a ☠ pirated movie.
Police dispatch? Kid sleeping in the back.

I'd bet money nothing in Clerks is fictional.

I Seriously want to know how me and you clearly live in different realities.  Seriously.
We do. And we did. And it's interesting.
 
2021-12-05 7:31:36 PM  

CFitzsimmons: I'd just like to point out that MamaFitzsimmons was putting avocado on our toast (and rice cakes) in the late 1970s and early 80s. It is not even remotely new or exciting.


At some point putting enough stuff on a toast point means you've made an open face sandwich.
 
2021-12-05 7:33:03 PM  

grokca: Every time I see some idiot post a picture of 60's kids on bikes and saying " This is how we had fun before technology." I point out that bikes are technology.


/
Fun fact people propel bikes but don't really balance them.
 
2021-12-05 7:38:26 PM  

UncleDirtNap: chose a profession where you don't, that's on you.


Jfc choice is an illusion.
Crack heads do not chose that and you didn't chose to make good money. You just think you did.
Millions of recordings in your head played a role in what you 'chose to do'.
You could not be on food stamps if you wanted to.
 
2021-12-05 7:40:02 PM  

bumblefuss: 4."Being completely ignorant when it comes to technology. My father refuses to even get Wi-Fi and any kind of computer at home..."

This is not true of everyone from that generation.

My mom was perfectly happy to try new technology, though she did get frustrated from time to time. (But who hasn't?)

My dad, however, is pretty much the personification of this.

He's been using a Kindle for years, which is a minor miracle, but for the first several years, he would call me with a list of books he wanted me to add for him.

I finally got him to knock that crap off, but damned if he doesn't ask me regularly what his available gift card balance is and send me a check as-needed to replenish his account. (He's never had a credit card, and I don't blame him for that, but he really could do his own damn gift cards.)


In my circle we call that bring our moms and dads internet 🐒
 
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