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2021-12-04 7:16:49 AM  
FTA: "Cannabis businesses are being robbed year-round, but no one is talking about it," said Tucky Blunt...

His name is Blunt, and he owns a cannabis business. :)
 
2021-12-04 7:20:19 AM  
Ok, so the taxes on the product are too damn high.

But a personality in the weed world made a good point, the weed growers and distributors are also greedy. They're still trying to get pre-legalization money for legal weed.

If the weed business wants to make it, they're gonna have to realize that their product is pretty easy to manufacturer (concentrates withstanding), and lower their wholesale price to make the retail price more competitive with the black market.

But the consumption taxes at the retail legal are too high.
 
2021-12-04 7:45:36 AM  
I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.
 
2021-12-04 7:54:41 AM  

EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.


Don't bogart that joint, bro.
 
2021-12-04 8:56:10 AM  

EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.


Are cigarettes that cheap in liberal states?  I live in one, and assumed they'd be $8-10 by now, but I don't look at the prices much.  It's pretty rare to see someone smoking these days, outside of the occasional car (usually POS).
 
2021-12-04 9:03:48 AM  
Somewhere, some idiot who loves bricked spare tire weed that's full of beaners, is crying like an idiot.

Also, what?
 
2021-12-04 9:42:12 AM  

Izunbacol: EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.

Are cigarettes that cheap in liberal states?  I live in one, and assumed they'd be $8-10 by now, but I don't look at the prices much.  It's pretty rare to see someone smoking these days, outside of the occasional car (usually POS).


Missouri has one of the lowest costs for cigs.  Half of libertard Illinois.  Ha. Ha. Suck it (cough cough) Illinois.

Quit smoking for Desert Storm.  Wife still smokes.
 
2021-12-04 9:43:30 AM  
Show these thieves no quarter, if the bay area can't behave like a real part of the country then they need to be brought to heel, by a more armed and willing private security forces or by local law enforcement. Enough is enough. unleash the god damn hounds
 
2021-12-04 9:53:42 AM  

EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.


When my Dad owned his smoke shop back in the 70s & early eighties, we sold cigarettes for a buck/pack ($1.07 w/tax)  -or- you could get a carton for $10 ($10.70 w/tax).  This was in California too.
 
2021-12-04 9:55:22 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: Izunbacol: EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.

Are cigarettes that cheap in liberal states?  I live in one, and assumed they'd be $8-10 by now, but I don't look at the prices much.  It's pretty rare to see someone smoking these days, outside of the occasional car (usually POS).

Missouri has one of the lowest costs for cigs.  Half of libertard Illinois.  Ha. Ha. Suck it (cough cough) Illinois.

Quit smoking for Desert Storm.  Wife still smokes.


Quitting for basic I can understand. Quitting for deployment, ... that's... hmm.
 
2021-12-04 9:57:16 AM  

Izunbacol: EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.

Are cigarettes that cheap in liberal states?  I live in one, and assumed they'd be $8-10 by now, but I don't look at the prices much.  It's pretty rare to see someone smoking these days, outside of the occasional car (usually POS).


It really is weird to note how less smoking there is these days.

Smoked for more than 20 years myself, gave it up in 2014. Can't imagine ever going back.

Last I checked a pack of smokes is close to 20 dollars in NYC.
 
2021-12-04 10:01:06 AM  
Of course the biggest benefit is that you are not destroying peoples lives and throwing away resources over a damn plant.
 
2021-12-04 10:01:20 AM  

EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.



Thanks for the perfect example of "Begging the Question," much used by RWNJs to bolster extremist disinformation.
 
2021-12-04 10:01:57 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.

Don't bogart that joint, bro.


Wait... What were we just talking about?
 
2021-12-04 10:05:22 AM  

question_dj: Ok, so the taxes on the product are too damn high.

But a personality in the weed world made a good point, the weed growers and distributors are also greedy. They're still trying to get pre-legalization money for legal weed.

If the weed business wants to make it, they're gonna have to realize that their product is pretty easy to manufacturer (concentrates withstanding), and lower their wholesale price to make the retail price more competitive with the black market.

But the consumption taxes at the retail legal are too high.


You can now get an ounce of very decent 20% THC content weed here in Nova Scotia for $129. taxes included.

Street weed is $100 an ounce and falling.
 
2021-12-04 10:05:51 AM  
the only reason this is an issue is because the banks wont let them process many transactions making it a perfect spot to hit. full of cash and product

legalize at the federal level so banks wont be afraid to take their business
 
2021-12-04 10:06:49 AM  
They'll have to upgrade their security. Metal detectors between two remote control access doors- one at a time entry - thick Lexan in the door enclosure like at banks.

Maybe have a remote button to flood that area with tear gas.
 
2021-12-04 10:08:44 AM  

IRestoreFurniture: Izunbacol: EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.

Are cigarettes that cheap in liberal states?  I live in one, and assumed they'd be $8-10 by now, but I don't look at the prices much.  It's pretty rare to see someone smoking these days, outside of the occasional car (usually POS).

It really is weird to note how less smoking there is these days.

Smoked for more than 20 years myself, gave it up in 2014. Can't imagine ever going back.

Last I checked a pack of smokes is close to 20 dollars in NYC.


I quit about 20 years ago. The other day I noticed a sign at the gas station that said special 2-packs $19.99. Back in my army days, I paid $5/carton.
 
2021-12-04 10:13:33 AM  
Jesus Alou on a pogo stick.  Any street dealer on the planet could tell you that when you're in the business of selling weed, you need to keep your stock with you at all times, and this along with a pistol that you should always keep ready to use.  If you leave weed in a building where everyone knows it's stored, you may as well just put a "please break in and steal my sh*t" sign up.

GhostOfSavageHenry: Of course the biggest benefit is that you are not destroying peoples lives and throwing away resources over a damn plant.


You can achieve most of this result by decriminalizing possession of small amounts for use, too.  No need to go so far as to try to protect the trade in weed with the power of the police.
 
2021-12-04 10:15:03 AM  

ms_lara_croft: FTA: "Cannabis businesses are being robbed year-round, but no one is talking about it," said Tucky Blunt...

His name is Blunt, and he owns a cannabis business. :)


It's like back in the old days where If you were named Fletcher you made arrows, if you were named Chapman you were a merchant, and if your last name was Pigfarker it meant you were married to a cop.
 
2021-12-04 10:19:35 AM  
I can get a delta 8 pen for twenty bucks. It lasts me over a month. Why the fark would I spend more than twenty bucks on an ounce of flower? So I can cough more?
 
2021-12-04 10:24:04 AM  

Mimekiller: Show these thieves no quarter, if the bay area can't behave like a real part of the country then they need to be brought to heel, by a more armed and willing private security forces or by local law enforcement. Enough is enough. unleash the god damn hounds


I am somewhat surprised that weed stores haven't figured out that they should hire off-duty cops as security guards.
They should buy off the cops legally.
 
2021-12-04 10:24:29 AM  

tirob: Jesus Alou on a pogo stick.  Any street dealer on the planet could tell you that when you're in the business of selling weed, you need to keep your stock with you at all times, and this along with a pistol that you should always keep ready to use.  If you leave weed in a building where everyone knows it's stored, you may as well just put a "please break in and steal my sh*t" sign up.

GhostOfSavageHenry: Of course the biggest benefit is that you are not destroying peoples lives and throwing away resources over a damn plant.

You can achieve most of this result by decriminalizing possession of small amounts for use, too.  No need to go so far as to try to protect the trade in weed with the power of the police.


Da fuq? You advocating legalization? Who are you and what have you done with our friend Tirob?
 
2021-12-04 10:27:10 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: I can get a delta 8 pen for twenty bucks. It lasts me over a month. Why the fark would I spend more than twenty bucks on an ounce of flower? So I can cough more?


because people been smoking flowers for thousands of years vs. whatever someone decides to put in the goo in the pen ?
 
2021-12-04 10:45:10 AM  

question_dj: Ok, so the taxes on the product are too damn high.

But a personality in the weed world made a good point, the weed growers and distributors are also greedy. They're still trying to get pre-legalization money for legal weed.

If the weed business wants to make it, they're gonna have to realize that their product is pretty easy to manufacturer (concentrates withstanding), and lower their wholesale price to make the retail price more competitive with the black market.

But the consumption taxes at the retail legal are too high.


They're less than hiring a lawyer.
 
2021-12-04 10:49:22 AM  

Hey Nurse!: tirob: Jesus Alou on a pogo stick.  Any street dealer on the planet could tell you that when you're in the business of selling weed, you need to keep your stock with you at all times, and this along with a pistol that you should always keep ready to use.  If you leave weed in a building where everyone knows it's stored, you may as well just put a "please break in and steal my sh*t" sign up.

GhostOfSavageHenry: Of course the biggest benefit is that you are not destroying peoples lives and throwing away resources over a damn plant.

You can achieve most of this result by decriminalizing possession of small amounts for use, too.  No need to go so far as to try to protect the trade in weed with the power of the police.

Da fuq? You advocating legalization? Who are you and what have you done with our friend Tirob?


Decriminalization.  Of possession of small amounts.  Of *all* drugs.  Which I have supported for many years.  I sense that there may be some confusion because you may think that decriminalization and legalization are synonymous.  They aren't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_po​l​icy_of_Portugal

kindms: the only reason this is an issue is because the banks wont let them process many transactions making it a perfect spot to hit. full of cash and product

legalize at the federal level so banks wont be afraid to take their business


Those stores that are full of cash and merchandise will still be full of merchandise even if the law is changed so that owners can bank their profits.  Which means that they will continue to tempt bandits in search of a commodity that's easy to conceal and transport, easy to dispose of on the street, and impossible to trace once it's resold.
 
2021-12-04 10:55:02 AM  
I've seen gas stations with better security.
 
2021-12-04 10:55:32 AM  

kindms: Shakin_Haitian: I can get a delta 8 pen for twenty bucks. It lasts me over a month. Why the fark would I spend more than twenty bucks on an ounce of flower? So I can cough more?

because people been smoking flowers for thousands of years vs. whatever someone decides to put in the goo in the pen ?


Much in the same way natural covid immunity goes down smoother than that goo they shoot in your arm.
 
2021-12-04 10:57:12 AM  

kindms: the only reason this is an issue is because the banks wont let them process many transactions making it a perfect spot to hit. full of cash and product

legalize at the federal level so banks wont be afraid to take their business


Chuckle Shumer is holding it up in the Senate for some reason.
 
2021-12-04 10:59:56 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: kindms: Shakin_Haitian: I can get a delta 8 pen for twenty bucks. It lasts me over a month. Why the fark would I spend more than twenty bucks on an ounce of flower? So I can cough more?

because people been smoking flowers for thousands of years vs. whatever someone decides to put in the goo in the pen ?

Much in the same way natural covid immunity goes down smoother than that goo they shoot in your arm.


I thought we put the goo up our butts.
 
2021-12-04 11:01:01 AM  

tirob: You can achieve most of this result by decriminalizing possession of small amounts for use, too.  No need to go so far as to try to protect the trade in weed with the power of the police.


I bet you're also in favor of the smash and grab robberies that have been making headlines lately, right? No need to go so far as to protect the trade in lululemon with the power of the police?
 
2021-12-04 11:02:08 AM  

foo monkey: Shakin_Haitian: kindms: Shakin_Haitian: I can get a delta 8 pen for twenty bucks. It lasts me over a month. Why the fark would I spend more than twenty bucks on an ounce of flower? So I can cough more?

because people been smoking flowers for thousands of years vs. whatever someone decides to put in the goo in the pen ?

Much in the same way natural covid immunity goes down smoother than that goo they shoot in your arm.

I thought we put the goo up our butts.


Only the fluorescence goo.
 
2021-12-04 11:02:12 AM  

EvilEgg: I thought cigarette taxes were all like $5 a pack, but evidently that's only in liberal states. I was going to compare the two, but now I'm not sure what my point is.


Shut up and pass, dude.
 
2021-12-04 11:20:26 AM  

question_dj: Ok, so the taxes on the product are too damn high.

But a personality in the weed world made a good point, the weed growers and distributors are also greedy. They're still trying to get pre-legalization money for legal weed.

If the weed business wants to make it, they're gonna have to realize that their product is pretty easy to manufacturer (concentrates withstanding), and lower their wholesale price to make the retail price more competitive with the black market.

But the consumption taxes at the retail legal are too high.


It seems weird that the wholesale price of weed hasn't dropped like a rock in California. It happened in Oregon.
 
2021-12-04 11:23:10 AM  
Haven't heard of any robberies here in Illinois, but, the purchasing of product is highly controlled. You must pre-order and schedule a pickup time, you are met by off-duty cops at the door and must show ID. You wait in an anteroom and then are call into the secure purchase area, all the product is kept in another locked room, that your cashier contacts and the product is brought out, you pay and go. No browsing, etc. Not an easy target for robbers.
 
2021-12-04 11:23:25 AM  
It's probably tax fraud, in some part. Sell all you can, collect sales tax, tuck money away, have friends do smash and grab, say a lot more was stolen. Then dip into the insurance to replace a little glass, and have a nice Christmas bonus.
 
2021-12-04 11:23:59 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: I can get a delta 8 pen for twenty bucks. It lasts me over a month. Why the fark would I spend more than twenty bucks on an ounce of flower? So I can cough more?


Terpenes and VSCs.
 
2021-12-04 11:31:11 AM  
Holy fark. This thread...
 
2021-12-04 11:34:50 AM  
I think Tucky could talk his cousin James Blunt and Willie Nelson to do a Farm Aid type benefit show for the shop owners and corner dealers.
 
2021-12-04 11:36:34 AM  

El_Dan: tirob: You can achieve most of this result by decriminalizing possession of small amounts for use, too.  No need to go so far as to try to protect the trade in weed with the power of the police.

I bet you're also in favor of the smash and grab robberies that have been making headlines lately, right? No need to go so far as to protect the trade in lululemon with the power of the police?


It's surprising to see the Alex Jones/Kayleigh McEnany/Melissa Carone of Pot Propaganda even mention the word decriminalization

Especially considering everyoneon fark has seen him multiple times call for the execution of anyone who uses or sells marijuana, legal or otherwise
 
2021-12-04 11:42:58 AM  
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2021-12-04 11:46:01 AM  

ms_lara_croft: FTA: "Cannabis businesses are being robbed year-round, but no one is talking about it," said Tucky Blunt...

His name is Blunt, and he owns a cannabis business. :)


Of course he's blunt. You can't be shy and run a business.
 
2021-12-04 11:52:58 AM  
Robberies and burglaries:  Make them legal and tax them
 
2021-12-04 11:53:30 AM  

Feel_the_velvet: Robberies and burglaries:  Make them legal and tax them


You're already taxed on income. Regardless of its source.
 
2021-12-04 11:58:13 AM  

ms_lara_croft: FTA: "Cannabis businesses are being robbed year-round, but no one is talking about it," said Tucky Blunt...

His name is Blunt, and he owns a cannabis business. :)


Yeah eheh eheh.  Blunt.

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2021-12-04 12:19:18 PM  
Businesses operating in an easily transportable vice product that cannot access banking services and must operate on cash are prone to robberies, particularly when zoning and local licensing restrict such businesses to areas more easily robbed, Ric Romero has more at 11.
 
2021-12-04 12:21:38 PM  
What store security should look like

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2021-12-04 12:29:48 PM  

proton: ms_lara_croft: FTA: "Cannabis businesses are being robbed year-round, but no one is talking about it," said Tucky Blunt...

His name is Blunt, and he owns a cannabis business. :)

Yeah eheh eheh.  Blunt.

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When I was in California, I got my medical weed eval from a Dr Toke. Seriously.
 
2021-12-04 12:31:34 PM  

tirob: Jesus Alou on a pogo stick.  Any street dealer on the planet could tell you that when you're in the business of selling weed, you need to keep your stock with you at all times, and this along with a pistol that you should always keep ready to use.  If you leave weed in a building where everyone knows it's stored, you may as well just put a "please break in and steal my sh*t" sign up.

GhostOfSavageHenry: Of course the biggest benefit is that you are not destroying peoples lives and throwing away resources over a damn plant.

You can achieve most of this result by decriminalizing possession of small amounts for use, too.  No need to go so far as to try to protect the trade in weed with the power of the police.


The only thing decriminalization without legalization would accomplish is that the black market would no longer have access to the easy pickings of dispensary product (or the competition), which would mean more illegal cultivation, more smuggling, and more powerful cartels. Seems to me like your "cure" is far worse than the condition it purports to treat.

BTW, I thought you were all about how cannabis theft was uniquely unprosecutable because of how untraceable raw flower is, but TFA says it's the highly traceable brand-labeled and batch-numbered packaging that's worth big bucks. Any thoughts?
 
2021-12-04 12:31:56 PM  

El_Dan: tirob: You can achieve most of this result by decriminalizing possession of small amounts for use, too.  No need to go so far as to try to protect the trade in weed with the power of the police.

I bet you're also in favor of the smash and grab robberies that have been making headlines lately, right?


Wrong; I'm not in favor of any kind of smash and grab robbery.  My point is that if you try to use the police to protect the trade in weed, you'll fail.  In the real world, that is.  This story is a pretty distressing example of that:

https://www.fark.com/comments/1194092​7​/SF-cops-If-you-run-a-weed-store-you-d​o-so-at-your-own-risk


See also my initial comment on this thread.  Anyone who trades in weed on the street knows that you personally have to protect your stock with firearms at all times.  Selling weed out of a store doesn't change that.
 
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