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(Honolulu Star Advertiser)   Oopsie-daisy. The US Navy just contaminated half the water supply to Honolulu   (staradvertiser.com) divider line
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2021-12-04 8:35:06 AM  
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2021-12-04 8:36:59 AM  

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"Won't contaminating a water supply for half of a goddamn US State be hard for the Navy?"
"Actually it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience."
 
2021-12-04 8:38:54 AM  
Hopefully this won't be the Flint, Michigan situation for Hawaii. Though I do have to remember that the state is a tourist destination for rich people.
 
2021-12-04 8:39:02 AM  
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2021-12-04 8:41:21 AM  
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/totally broken inside
 
2021-12-04 8:43:51 AM  
The comments are interesting, seems those tanks have been leaking since the 80's or earlier.
 
2021-12-04 8:44:08 AM  
Couldn't be. They're heroes.
 
2021-12-04 8:46:04 AM  
So a burn fuel out of water advisory.

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Taste like burning.
 
2021-12-04 8:47:22 AM  
No matter how much you recycle, it won't make a difference.
 
2021-12-04 8:49:19 AM  
My cousin is living at that base. This is day 6 of no water for them. They've been told to only use the tap water for flushing toilets. She has two small children. Her husband is a Chief Petty Officer.

A military that can't keep safe something as basic a necessity as drinking water is risking a mutiny.
 
2021-12-04 8:50:52 AM  
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2021-12-04 8:51:28 AM  
Its a feature!  Call it Freedom Sauce and drink deeply!  Works with F35s near civilian areas!

If that happened in Alabama (and I'm sure it has) they would be baptizing children in it.
 
2021-12-04 8:52:45 AM  

Bathroom Samurai: My cousin is living at that base. This is day 6 of no water for them. They've been told to only use the tap water for flushing toilets. She has two small children. Her husband is a Chief Petty Officer.

A military that can't keep safe something as basic a necessity as drinking water is risking a mutiny.


So no baths, showers, laundry in a house with small children?  That place is gonna turn into a super fund site.
 
2021-12-04 8:53:31 AM  
Still a better love story than the movie Pearl Harbor
 
2021-12-04 9:04:31 AM  
A minimum of three Navy careers just ended.
 
2021-12-04 9:34:59 AM  
In the Air Force, the Environmental Protection Flights are almost universally considered Rat Squads that interfere with successful missions. It works appear the Navy treats their EPs the same.

"Sir, the gas tanks are failing."
"So, secondary containment is still working, right."
"Well, yes, it's there specifically to give us time to..."
" Then we still have time. Look, Colonel Jones has been complaining about the severe lack of call girls in the Officer's Club for the last three months. Three months of, 'all there is to choose from is Jenny, Penny, and Gale, and I'm tired of getting Gale!' in Every. Damn. Staff Meeting! I'm stuck of listening to it, hell, I'm getting a migraine just THINKING ABOUT IT! And I'm out of budget until 2025. Make it work!"
 
2021-12-04 9:44:02 AM  

Turbo Cojones: Its a feature!  Call it Freedom Sauce and drink deeply!  Works with F35s near civilian areas!

If that happened in Alabama (and I'm sure it has) they would be baptizing children in it.


"Demoncrats claim this water is contaminated, but that's a conspiracy to keep us from it, and our immune systems will protect us against it!  We're gonna drink it because freedums!  This holy water will help Trump reclaim the White House!"
 
2021-12-04 9:53:30 AM  

Bathroom Samurai: My cousin is living at that base. This is day 6 of no water for them. They've been told to only use the tap water for flushing toilets. She has two small children. Her husband is a Chief Petty Officer.

A military that can't keep safe something as basic a necessity as drinking water is risking a mutiny.


This has been par for the course for decades. Cape Cod, Alameda. I'm in the CG but everywhere I've been with DOD has had historical issues. Hell I saw fishing trawlers dredge up a boxes of mustard gas containers and grenades south of Long Island and bring them into port.
 
2021-12-04 10:03:51 AM  
I smell a 60 minutes special.
 
TWX
2021-12-04 11:10:20 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Hopefully this won't be the Flint, Michigan situation for Hawaii. Though I do have to remember that the state is a tourist destination for rich people.


You visit Oahu mainly for history, not for too much in the way of resorts.  Resort stays are for Maui if you want developed, Kauai if you want what Maui was like 30 years ago, or one of the other islands if you want rural.

/has been to Oahu and Kauai
//enjoyed both
///but would be more likely to go back to Kauai than Oahu
 
2021-12-04 11:20:29 AM  
Thank you for your service.
 
2021-12-04 11:22:50 AM  
We've determined your injuries are not service related.
 
2021-12-04 11:23:54 AM  

TWX: DarkSoulNoHope: Hopefully this won't be the Flint, Michigan situation for Hawaii. Though I do have to remember that the state is a tourist destination for rich people.

You visit Oahu mainly for history, not for too much in the way of resorts.  Resort stays are for Maui if you want developed, Kauai if you want what Maui was like 30 years ago, or one of the other islands if you want rural.

/has been to Oahu and Kauai
//enjoyed both
///but would be more likely to go back to Kauai than Oahu


My last trip to Oahu was for work. 100 dollars a night for lodging? I am now aware Waikiki has a ghetto. And the motel had a massive security gate to get up the stairs. So many prostitutes out front.

But Nikos Pier is farking fantastic.
 
2021-12-04 11:46:38 AM  
Clarice Starling: FBI! You're safe!
 
2021-12-04 11:50:57 AM  

August11: A minimum of three Navy careers just ended.


Nope.  That only happens if: 1) someone gets killed through negligence which can be traced through a history of issues which were reported and ignored by the Chain of Command; or 2) a vessel has been damaged due to the same reasons as in item #1 and may include a lack of proper training as required by Navy Regulations.
 
2021-12-04 11:53:29 AM  

TWX: DarkSoulNoHope: Hopefully this won't be the Flint, Michigan situation for Hawaii. Though I do have to remember that the state is a tourist destination for rich people.

You visit Oahu mainly for history, not for too much in the way of resorts.  Resort stays are for Maui if you want developed, Kauai if you want what Maui was like 30 years ago, or one of the other islands if you want rural.

/has been to Oahu and Kauai
//enjoyed both
///but would be more likely to go back to Kauai than Oahu


if you come to maui just to stay in a resort and developed areas, you are maui'ing wrong.  but hey, you do you, we will still be happy to take your tourist dollars.

/maui resident, haiku country.
//north coast is the best coast
///maui nō ka 'oi.
 
2021-12-04 11:55:58 AM  
"Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?"
 
2021-12-04 12:20:14 PM  

ajgeek: In the Air Force, the Environmental Protection Flights are almost universally considered Rat Squads that interfere with successful missions. It works appear the Navy treats their EPs the same.

"Sir, the gas tanks are failing."
"So, secondary containment is still working, right."
"Well, yes, it's there specifically to give us time to..."
" Then we still have time. Look, Colonel Jones has been complaining about the severe lack of call girls in the Officer's Club for the last three months. Three months of, 'all there is to choose from is Jenny, Penny, and Gale, and I'm tired of getting Gale!' in Every. Damn. Staff Meeting! I'm stuck of listening to it, hell, I'm getting a migraine just THINKING ABOUT IT! And I'm out of budget until 2025. Make it work!"


Shore side yeah they don't give two shiats about that stuff, so I'm not shocked they ignored a problem until it blew up on them.

Ship side is another matter, the CO of the ship is personally liable for damages so people are serious about it.

This is compounded by the fact that shore side billets are the carrot to keep people in the Navy, as they are typically low stress jobs.  So you have people worn out from years on a ship looking to relax while the higher ups aren't as concerned with leaks. It's not really a shock to see stuff like this happen.
 
2021-12-04 12:24:09 PM  

FarkingSmurf: So a burn fuel out of water advisory.


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2021-12-04 12:44:52 PM  

Axeofjudgement: TWX: DarkSoulNoHope: Hopefully this won't be the Flint, Michigan situation for Hawaii. Though I do have to remember that the state is a tourist destination for rich people.

You visit Oahu mainly for history, not for too much in the way of resorts.  Resort stays are for Maui if you want developed, Kauai if you want what Maui was like 30 years ago, or one of the other islands if you want rural.

/has been to Oahu and Kauai
//enjoyed both
///but would be more likely to go back to Kauai than Oahu

My last trip to Oahu was for work. 100 dollars a night for lodging? I am now aware Waikiki has a ghetto. And the motel had a massive security gate to get up the stairs. So many prostitutes out front.

But Nikos Pier is farking fantastic.


You should do your company's employment ad: Work with us to visit A-list destinations*!
*and their ghettos
 
2021-12-04 12:49:52 PM  

morg: Axeofjudgement: TWX: DarkSoulNoHope: Hopefully this won't be the Flint, Michigan situation for Hawaii. Though I do have to remember that the state is a tourist destination for rich people.

You visit Oahu mainly for history, not for too much in the way of resorts.  Resort stays are for Maui if you want developed, Kauai if you want what Maui was like 30 years ago, or one of the other islands if you want rural.

/has been to Oahu and Kauai
//enjoyed both
///but would be more likely to go back to Kauai than Oahu

My last trip to Oahu was for work. 100 dollars a night for lodging? I am now aware Waikiki has a ghetto. And the motel had a massive security gate to get up the stairs. So many prostitutes out front.

But Nikos Pier is farking fantastic.

You should do your company's employment ad: Work with us to visit A-list destinations*!
*and their ghettos


Believe me. I have long since terminated my employment with that company.
 
TWX
2021-12-04 12:49:57 PM  

tokinGLX: TWX: DarkSoulNoHope: Hopefully this won't be the Flint, Michigan situation for Hawaii. Though I do have to remember that the state is a tourist destination for rich people.

You visit Oahu mainly for history, not for too much in the way of resorts.  Resort stays are for Maui if you want developed, Kauai if you want what Maui was like 30 years ago, or one of the other islands if you want rural.

/has been to Oahu and Kauai
//enjoyed both
///but would be more likely to go back to Kauai than Oahu

if you come to maui just to stay in a resort and developed areas, you are maui'ing wrong.  but hey, you do you, we will still be happy to take your tourist dollars.

/maui resident, haiku country.
//north coast is the best coast
///maui nō ka 'oi.


Resort doesn't mean just staying solely on the resort property.  It can mean having the amenities of the resort plus a location that offers its own sort of experience.  In the case of staying on Kauai we were in a resort hotel, but we also had access to both businesses intended for tourists and businesses that normally cater to residents.  In my own case I really enjoyed going to a hole-in-the-wall sushi place that was run by an ancient man of Japanese ancestry, the place wasn't really touristy, didn't seem to be busy at all.  Food was excellent.

Unfortunately I think that the proprietor is no longer with us.  Place was listed as permanently closed last time I checked, well before COVID-19.
 
2021-12-04 12:54:15 PM  

MythDragon: MythDragon: [pbs.twimg.com image 540x540]

"Won't contaminating a water supply for half of a goddamn US State be hard for the Navy?"
"Actually it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience."


I wasn't in the navy, but spent a little bit of time working on a navy vessel, and a bunch of time working on a former naval base.  The amount of weird chemicals the navy uses is frightening.

I used to go down to the Hunter's Point shipyard, visiting a place that sold printmaking supplies.
Hunter's Point is where ships were cleaned after the Bikini atom bomb tests. They buried some
of the debris on site, flung the rest into the ocean off the Farallones.

A few years back it was discovered that the contractors hired to clean up the shipyard in preparation for
new housing development falsified their cleanup data.

Couldn't pay me enough to live there. Or Treasure Island.

The US Navy is an environmental hazard.
 
2021-12-04 1:03:49 PM  
 
2021-12-04 1:39:42 PM  
The US Military. Protecting America by gradually destroying it.™
 
2021-12-04 1:44:12 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: August11: A minimum of three Navy careers just ended.

Nope.  That only happens if: 1) someone gets killed through negligence which can be traced through a history of issues which were reported and ignored by the Chain of Command; or 2) a vessel has been damaged due to the same reasons as in item #1 and may include a lack of proper training as required by Navy Regulations.


I defer.

I extrapolated based on an incident my neighbor survived. A boomer had it's propeller shaft turned into molten metal by a seaman's error-everyone was busted up to the skipper.
 
2021-12-04 1:46:50 PM  
Well, it's a good thing the military has access to gigantic piles of money. I'm sure they can fix this problem in no time with those resources.

/why are you laughing?
 
2021-12-04 1:50:46 PM  
This is standard operating procedure of the US Navy in the Pacific, not just Hawaii:

FTA: On Sunday, the Navy shut down its Red Hill well, without telling the Board of Water Supply, as it investigated why military families began complaining of fuel and chemical odors coming from their tap water, as well as symptoms such as rashes, nausea and diarrhea that they believed were linked to the water.
The Board of Water Supply didn't find out about the closure until Tuesday, even though Lau has raised concerns for years that shutting down the Red Hill well, if there is contamination in the below aquifer, could hasten migration of that fuel to the Board of Water Supply's well. Essentially, the water could be sucked toward the Halawa shaft at a faster rate.


Racism and colonialism are a deadly combination. The environmental effect of racist, imperialist, military occupations are well-documented (haha well get it?), and largely thank to the Indigenous and US academics and journalists in the Pacific. The USA continues to flout all UN attempts to empower Pacific Islanders' slef-government, even though their mandate for gove't includes documenting and stopping ongoing poisoning like this recent one in Hawaii. Claerly the government of the USA chooses to continue the damage, and refues to let the local conquered people present the science or prepare protections.
 
2021-12-04 1:51:05 PM  

austerity101: Well, it's a good thing the military has access to gigantic piles of money. I'm sure they can fix this problem in no time with those resources.

/why are you laughing?


Just invade Fiji and take their water. Problem solved.
 
2021-12-04 1:53:34 PM  

August11: Chief Superintendent Lookout: August11: A minimum of three Navy careers just ended.

Nope.  That only happens if: 1) someone gets killed through negligence which can be traced through a history of issues which were reported and ignored by the Chain of Command; or 2) a vessel has been damaged due to the same reasons as in item #1 and may include a lack of proper training as required by Navy Regulations.

I defer.

I extrapolated based on an incident my neighbor survived. A boomer had it's propeller shaft turned into molten metal by a seaman's error-everyone was busted up to the skipper.


Did you mean you concur?  I hope so, because your example fits the narrative I laid out.
 
2021-12-04 3:09:56 PM  

Axeofjudgement: TWX: DarkSoulNoHope: Hopefully this won't be the Flint, Michigan situation for Hawaii. Though I do have to remember that the state is a tourist destination for rich people.

You visit Oahu mainly for history, not for too much in the way of resorts.  Resort stays are for Maui if you want developed, Kauai if you want what Maui was like 30 years ago, or one of the other islands if you want rural.

/has been to Oahu and Kauai
//enjoyed both
///but would be more likely to go back to Kauai than Oahu

My last trip to Oahu was for work. 100 dollars a night for lodging? I am now aware Waikiki has a ghetto. And the motel had a massive security gate to get up the stairs. So many prostitutes out front.


Did you get leid?
 
2021-12-04 3:51:46 PM  
 
2021-12-04 4:25:21 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: August11: Chief Superintendent Lookout: August11: A minimum of three Navy careers just ended.

Nope.  That only happens if: 1) someone gets killed through negligence which can be traced through a history of issues which were reported and ignored by the Chain of Command; or 2) a vessel has been damaged due to the same reasons as in item #1 and may include a lack of proper training as required by Navy Regulations.

I defer.

I extrapolated based on an incident my neighbor survived. A boomer had it's propeller shaft turned into molten metal by a seaman's error-everyone was busted up to the skipper.

Did you mean you concur?  I hope so, because your example fits the narrative I laid out.


I defer to your expertise. Archaic use.
 
2021-12-04 4:38:35 PM  

Axeofjudgement: You should do your company's employment ad: Work with us to visit A-list destinations*!
*and their ghettos

Believe me. I have long since terminated my employment with that company.


I used to fly to Buenos Aires business class but the job was in Los Toninos. In the summer Los Toninos does a fair trade as a small beach town getaway for the middle class in Buenos Aires. In the winter and during and economic depression there were only three restaurants open and one of them was the gas station.
Beyond that job, I've seen some things like you with the gates where I didn't even know it was bad until I saw the security. One place I had to ask how much for the whole day, not just an hour.  Used condom in the trashcan at that place but otherwise clean and I'm obviously out of options at that point anyway.
 
2021-12-04 4:42:49 PM  
I should say, one of the restaurants in Los Toninos was only open for lunch, the other for dinner.
 
2021-12-04 4:47:55 PM  

dryknife: https://www.civilbeat.org/2021/12/water-contamination-on-military-bases-isnt-new-and-thats-a-problem/


Add Wurtsmith AFB, Michigan (and later, surrounding residential wells) to the shortlist of contamination. Some distant family friends from base housing back in the day joined a class action lawsuit in the early 20 teens. That was the first time we ever knew of the contamination. Not sure if it has ever been resolved yet.

/my own birthplace in the 80s
 
2021-12-04 5:01:36 PM  

morg: Axeofjudgement: You should do your company's employment ad: Work with us to visit A-list destinations*!
*and their ghettos

Believe me. I have long since terminated my employment with that company.

I used to fly to Buenos Aires business class but the job was in Los Toninos. In the summer Los Toninos does a fair trade as a small beach town getaway for the middle class in Buenos Aires. In the winter and during and economic depression there were only three restaurants open and one of them was the gas station.
Beyond that job, I've seen some things like you with the gates where I didn't even know it was bad until I saw the security. One place I had to ask how much for the whole day, not just an hour.  Used condom in the trashcan at that place but otherwise clean and I'm obviously out of options at that point anyway.


Oh it can get interesting. Opening your door and someone walking up asking if you want weed, from a backpack full of weed.

To methheads coming up and asking to fark (I'm assuming for money? Kinda hard to understand after a point) had one guy walk with me up a street cause I gave him a cig and he felt like he needed to protect me 🤣 pulled out brass knuckles and everything.
 
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