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(Futurism)   Phased railgun rifle in the 75 foot-pound range? Hey, you'll put your eye out, kid   (futurism.com) divider line
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2021-12-03 8:23:15 PM  
That should penetrate several apartment walls while you're "cleaning" it.
 
2021-12-03 8:47:37 PM  
FTA: ...officially available for preorder now.

So it's not available.
 
2021-12-03 9:03:09 PM  
None of us need that or will buy it.

But admit it, you're thinking about it.

ok somebody here is gonna buy one
 
2021-12-03 9:06:22 PM  
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2021-12-03 9:20:59 PM  

BunkyBrewman: None of us need that or will buy it.

But admit it, you're thinking about it.

ok somebody here is gonna buy one


Meh... my Death Ray was better.
 
2021-12-03 9:30:01 PM  

BunkyBrewman: None of us need that or will buy it.

But admit it, you're thinking about it.

ok somebody here is gonna buy one


probably shouldn't. you can get a very nice pellet gun with sights for that price. cheap ammunition, and uses air instead of electricity
 
2021-12-03 9:54:29 PM  
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Rail gun? Those things are a scam.
 
2021-12-03 11:40:05 PM  
"The futuristic weapon accelerates tiny "ferromagnetic projectiles," smaller than half an inch in diameter, to over 200 feet per second with 75 foot-pounds of muzzle energy."

So, an electric BB gun?

.A .22 Bejamin air rifle is about 130 ft/lbs at the muzzle.
 
2021-12-03 11:41:26 PM  
Get rid of the batteries and put a small alcohol fuel cell on the thing instead.  Then I'm going to need a linked set of AR goggles for aim assist.  And maybe a round counter and a fuel level indicator on the HUD while you're at it. And a barrel camera so I can use the goggles to aim around a corner without sticking my head out.

Hell, you know what?  Add some face/body recognition software and some computer controlled weights in the barrel to create an 'aimbot' that can make minor corrections to your aim so it always hits center mass or in the head.
 
2021-12-03 11:50:14 PM  
It's been a hot minute since I fired zee railgun...

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory Trailer
Youtube D8FAPT4xpAk
 
2021-12-04 12:07:42 AM  
Gotta get this out of the way.
It is NOT a railgun.
It is a gauss gun.
And as cool and fun as it looks, it will never be able to generate enough energy to project a piece of metal to a velocity capabable of penetrating steel armor; without also irrevocably damaging its ability to fire a second shot reliably.
This is a Nerf™ gun for nerds.
Fun? F*ck yeah!
Useful in war? Nope. (At least not for the foreseeable future.)

Lets look at the difference.
This is a railgun:
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Positive and negative rails create a magnetic force through the projectile, forcing it forward at a high velocity. The stored energy required is well beyond even a backpack sized capacitor. You'd need more like a Sea-can sized capacitor bank.

This is a Gauss gun:
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It uses magnetized coils to boost the ferrous metal at certain points along the barrel. Each coil is pushing the projectile a little bit faster than the last coil until it leaves the muzzle. Again, the amount of contained energy required to make this design lethal is prohibitive. Outside of a R&D lab of course.

One little tidbit...
Something that pissed me off about the article is their claim that a future soldier could one day just grab any metal that would fit down the barrel and fire it at the enemy. Nuts and bolts they said.
What in the everloving f*ck!
That's not how it works! Ya damned punters...
 
2021-12-04 12:10:38 AM  
If I can literally toss in any chunk of metal of a given size? I would indeed be intrigued enough to subscribe to their newsletter.

I sit at skeptical for the moment.

/A nail/screw/carkey/ballbearing/sheetmetalsliver gun would be a bit interesting.
//I want to know what the muzzle velocity is of various common objects.
 
2021-12-04 12:14:10 AM  
I love technology. Don't get me wrong. But, I think I'll still pick a .50 caliber sniper rifle over this weird electromagnetic gadget.
 
2021-12-04 12:21:40 AM  

Destructor: I love technology. Don't get me wrong. But, I think I'll still pick a .50 caliber sniper rifle over this weird electromagnetic gadget.


Subsonic rounds accelerated without explosions gives you a stealth advantage.  I dunno, though, I think maybe I'd be inclined to try a high-end air gun connected to a small backpack-mounted compressor.
 
2021-12-04 12:34:01 AM  
Can it shoot knives?
 
2021-12-04 12:35:36 AM  
Avoid pushing the big red button... at least until your payment clears
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2021-12-04 12:38:23 AM  
It's not the world's first coil gun, it's not a rail gun,  i mean what the hell
 
2021-12-04 12:39:26 AM  

Unsung_Hero: Destructor: I love technology. Don't get me wrong. But, I think I'll still pick a .50 caliber sniper rifle over this weird electromagnetic gadget.

Subsonic rounds accelerated without explosions gives you a stealth advantage.  I dunno, though, I think maybe I'd be inclined to try a high-end air gun connected to a small backpack-mounted compressor.


No need for a backpack portable compressor.
Just buy a carbon fiber SCUBA tank. You'll be good for a full day of shooting. Then when the day is done, hook it up to your PCP compressor. Ready to go for tomorrow.
 
2021-12-04 12:59:43 AM  
You'll put your eye out...
 
2021-12-04 1:36:24 AM  
FTA: The GR-1 is a potentially lethal weapon, similar to a high power PCP air rifle

I'm holding out for my GU-11.

Although I am a fan of PCP.

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2021-12-04 1:38:16 AM  

Destructor: I love technology. Don't get me wrong. But, I think I'll still pick a .50 caliber sniper rifle over this weird electromagnetic gadget.


I would have taken an arbalest over a schioppi back in the day.

Someday, even the .50 might seem quaint or impractical
 
2021-12-04 5:40:37 AM  

Redh8t: Gotta get this out of the way.
It is NOT a railgun.
It is a gauss gun.
And as cool and fun as it looks, it will never be able to generate enough energy to project a piece of metal to a velocity capabable of penetrating steel armor; without also irrevocably damaging its ability to fire a second shot reliably.
This is a Nerf™ gun for nerds.
Fun? F*ck yeah!
Useful in war? Nope. (At least not for the foreseeable future.)

Lets look at the difference.
This is a railgun:
[Fark user image image 425x283]
Positive and negative rails create a magnetic force through the projectile, forcing it forward at a high velocity. The stored energy required is well beyond even a backpack sized capacitor. You'd need more like a Sea-can sized capacitor bank.

This is a Gauss gun:
[Fark user image image 425x275]
[Fark user image image 425x177]
It uses magnetized coils to boost the ferrous metal at certain points along the barrel. Each coil is pushing the projectile a little bit faster than the last coil until it leaves the muzzle. Again, the amount of contained energy required to make this design lethal is prohibitive. Outside of a R&D lab of course.

One little tidbit...
Something that pissed me off about the article is their claim that a future soldier could one day just grab any metal that would fit down the barrel and fire it at the enemy. Nuts and bolts they said.
What in the everloving f*ck!
That's not how it works! Ya damned punters...


Came here to say the very same thing.  Let me just add that "coil gun" would have also been acceptable.

BTW, these things have been banned in Hawaii since at least the 1980's.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol03_ch0121-0200d/hrs0134/HRS_0134-0016.htm

And yes, this meets the definition of "electric gun" under Hawaiian law:

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0001.htm

"Electric gun" means any portable device that is electrically operated to project a missile or electromotive force.  It does not include any electric livestock prod used in animal husbandry and any automatic external defibrillator used in emergency medical situations.

The only reason I know this is because I bought a couple of guns while I was stationed in Hawaii.
 
2021-12-04 7:15:54 AM  
I think some of you guys might have wound up on a number of lists after this thread.
 
2021-12-04 7:18:28 AM  

MurphyMurphy: Destructor: I love technology. Don't get me wrong. But, I think I'll still pick a .50 caliber sniper rifle over this weird electromagnetic gadget.

I would have taken an arbalest over a schioppi back in the day.

Someday, even the .50 might seem quaint or impractical


Will, not might.
 
2021-12-04 7:20:42 AM  
So, someone decided a working model of the Fallout 4 Gauss Rifle was a good idea, then?

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2021-12-04 7:33:22 AM  

Mugato: I think some of you guys might have wound up on a number of lists after this thread.


shiat, I've been on lists since lists started being made.  Maybe even before.

Luckily for you all, I took an oath never to use my powers for evil.
 
2021-12-04 9:48:27 AM  
New?  When was 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress' published?
 
2021-12-04 9:59:53 AM  

Gene Masseth: Can it shoot knives?


I love the way you think.

Searching for a "knife gun" brought up this beauty

Fark user imageView Full Size


As far as the gausse gun in the article, it costs about $3500, but the $60 charger is sold separately???

I won't buy it off of principal! Do better, unknown company.
 
2021-12-04 12:26:40 PM  

Redh8t: Gotta get this out of the way.
It is NOT a railgun.
It is a gauss gun.
And as cool and fun as it looks, it will never be able to generate enough energy to project a piece of metal to a velocity capabable of penetrating steel armor; without also irrevocably damaging its ability to fire a second shot reliably.
This is a Nerf™ gun for nerds.
Fun? F*ck yeah!
Useful in war? Nope. (At least not for the foreseeable future.)

Lets look at the difference.
This is a railgun:
[Fark user image image 425x283]
Positive and negative rails create a magnetic force through the projectile, forcing it forward at a high velocity. The stored energy required is well beyond even a backpack sized capacitor. You'd need more like a Sea-can sized capacitor bank.

This is a Gauss gun:
[Fark user image image 425x275]
[Fark user image image 425x177]
It uses magnetized coils to boost the ferrous metal at certain points along the barrel. Each coil is pushing the projectile a little bit faster than the last coil until it leaves the muzzle. Again, the amount of contained energy required to make this design lethal is prohibitive. Outside of a R&D lab of course.

One little tidbit...
Something that pissed me off about the article is their claim that a future soldier could one day just grab any metal that would fit down the barrel and fire it at the enemy. Nuts and bolts they said.
What in the everloving f*ck!
That's not how it works! Ya damned punters...


Also the claim that a few solar panels could charge the squad back up, solar is great, bit they aren't that efficient.
 
2021-12-04 12:48:31 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: Gene Masseth: Can it shoot knives?

I love the way you think.

Searching for a "knife gun" brought up this beauty

[Fark user image 425x397]

As far as the gausse gun in the article, it costs about $3500, but the $60 charger is sold separately???

I won't buy it off of principal! Do better, unknown company.


If you used that as the brass knuckles...wouldn't that point the gun and knife towards yourself? Seems a little counter-productive and/or poorly designed.
 
2021-12-04 12:57:56 PM  

BunkyBrewman: None of us need that or will buy it.


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2021-12-04 5:00:10 PM  

Aviron: Wine Sipping Elitist: Gene Masseth: Can it shoot knives?

I love the way you think.

Searching for a "knife gun" brought up this beauty

[Fark user image 425x397]

As far as the gausse gun in the article, it costs about $3500, but the $60 charger is sold separately???

I won't buy it off of principal! Do better, unknown company.

If you used that as the brass knuckles...wouldn't that point the gun and knife towards yourself? Seems a little counter-productive and/or poorly designed.


No, the handle folds.  So your fist is around the cylinder.
 
2021-12-04 6:18:17 PM  

dittybopper: Aviron: Wine Sipping Elitist: Gene Masseth: Can it shoot knives?

I love the way you think.

Searching for a "knife gun" brought up this beauty

[Fark user image 425x397]

As far as the gausse gun in the article, it costs about $3500, but the $60 charger is sold separately???

I won't buy it off of principal! Do better, unknown company.

If you used that as the brass knuckles...wouldn't that point the gun and knife towards yourself? Seems a little counter-productive and/or poorly designed.

No, the handle folds.  So your fist is around the cylinder.


Well, that would tend to make your fist rather distinctive, as is customary.
 
2021-12-04 6:21:01 PM  

rummonkey: Also the claim that a few solar panels could charge the squad back up, solar is great, bit they aren't that efficient.


Just update the summary about war being 99 percent boredom to being 99 percent recharging.
 
2021-12-04 8:04:44 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: Gene Masseth: Can it shoot knives?

I love the way you think.

Searching for a "knife gun" brought up this beauty

[Fark user image image 425x397]

As far as the gausse gun in the article, it costs about $3500, but the $60 charger is sold separately???

I won't buy it off of principal! Do better, unknown company.


That looks insanely ineffective to use as brass knuckles. Like if you hit someone with it you'd have a 50/50 shot of shooting yourself in the process.
 
2021-12-04 9:23:08 PM  
That is slingshot levels of energy.
A slingshot costs like $5 and doesn't require batteries
 
2021-12-04 9:49:33 PM  

i state your name: Wine Sipping Elitist: Gene Masseth: Can it shoot knives?

I love the way you think.

Searching for a "knife gun" brought up this beauty

[Fark user image image 425x397]

As far as the gausse gun in the article, it costs about $3500, but the $60 charger is sold separately???

I won't buy it off of principal! Do better, unknown company.

That looks insanely ineffective to use as brass knuckles. Like if you hit someone with it you'd have a 50/50 shot of shooting yourself in the process.


Like dittybopper said upthread, the knuckles fold so you make a fist over the cylinder and the knife sticks from the bottom.

I imagine some fantasy move that would never work in real life but anyway you'd punch a guy with knuckles, slicing his face in the process. He recoils and screams, "You cut me!!"

Then you perform some finger/wrist move that looks cool and flips out the cylinder while gripping the knuckles and suddenly your brass knuckles knife is now a bayoneted revolver, you aim and say all calm like "I'm going to shoot you too." He says ,"NOOOOOO!" And then bang!

Then the cops arrest you because that's first degree murder, baby.
 
2021-12-04 10:03:04 PM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: i state your name: Wine Sipping Elitist: Gene Masseth: Can it shoot knives?

I love the way you think.

Searching for a "knife gun" brought up this beauty

[Fark user image image 425x397]

As far as the gausse gun in the article, it costs about $3500, but the $60 charger is sold separately???

I won't buy it off of principal! Do better, unknown company.

That looks insanely ineffective to use as brass knuckles. Like if you hit someone with it you'd have a 50/50 shot of shooting yourself in the process.

Like dittybopper said upthread, the knuckles fold so you make a fist over the cylinder and the knife sticks from the bottom.

I imagine some fantasy move that would never work in real life but anyway you'd punch a guy with knuckles, slicing his face in the process. He recoils and screams, "You cut me!!"

Then you perform some finger/wrist move that looks cool and flips out the cylinder while gripping the knuckles and suddenly your brass knuckles knife is now a bayoneted revolver, you aim and say all calm like "I'm going to shoot you too." He says ,"NOOOOOO!" And then bang!

Then the cops arrest you because that's first degree murder, baby.


Except since there's essentially no barrel it's less accurate than a muzzle-loader and you just graze the guy, so it's only attempted murder.
 
2021-12-05 10:45:21 AM  

dittybopper: Aviron: Wine Sipping Elitist: Gene Masseth: Can it shoot knives?

I love the way you think.

Searching for a "knife gun" brought up this beauty

[Fark user image 425x397]

As far as the gausse gun in the article, it costs about $3500, but the $60 charger is sold separately???

I won't buy it off of principal! Do better, unknown company.

If you used that as the brass knuckles...wouldn't that point the gun and knife towards yourself? Seems a little counter-productive and/or poorly designed.

No, the handle folds.  So your fist is around the cylinder.


Everything I've seen about it says that it was terrible at all three things. Which is normally the case with hybrid weapons, especially gun swords.

/Anime lies!
 
2021-12-05 10:56:37 AM  

i state your name: Wine Sipping Elitist: i state your name: Wine Sipping Elitist: Gene Masseth: Can it shoot knives?

I love the way you think.

Searching for a "knife gun" brought up this beauty

[Fark user image image 425x397]

As far as the gausse gun in the article, it costs about $3500, but the $60 charger is sold separately???

I won't buy it off of principal! Do better, unknown company.

That looks insanely ineffective to use as brass knuckles. Like if you hit someone with it you'd have a 50/50 shot of shooting yourself in the process.

Like dittybopper said upthread, the knuckles fold so you make a fist over the cylinder and the knife sticks from the bottom.

I imagine some fantasy move that would never work in real life but anyway you'd punch a guy with knuckles, slicing his face in the process. He recoils and screams, "You cut me!!"

Then you perform some finger/wrist move that looks cool and flips out the cylinder while gripping the knuckles and suddenly your brass knuckles knife is now a bayoneted revolver, you aim and say all calm like "I'm going to shoot you too." He says ,"NOOOOOO!" And then bang!

Then the cops arrest you because that's first degree murder, baby.

Except since there's essentially no barrel it's less accurate than a muzzle-loader and you just graze the guy, so it's only attempted murder.


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/oblig
 
2021-12-05 1:16:22 PM  

rummonkey: Redh8t: Gotta get this out of the way.
It is NOT a railgun.
It is a gauss gun.
And as cool and fun as it looks, it will never be able to generate enough energy to project a piece of metal to a velocity capabable of penetrating steel armor; without also irrevocably damaging its ability to fire a second shot reliably.
This is a Nerf™ gun for nerds.
Fun? F*ck yeah!
Useful in war? Nope. (At least not for the foreseeable future.)

Lets look at the difference.
This is a railgun:
[Fark user image image 425x283]
Positive and negative rails create a magnetic force through the projectile, forcing it forward at a high velocity. The stored energy required is well beyond even a backpack sized capacitor. You'd need more like a Sea-can sized capacitor bank.

This is a Gauss gun:
[Fark user image image 425x275]
[Fark user image image 425x177]
It uses magnetized coils to boost the ferrous metal at certain points along the barrel. Each coil is pushing the projectile a little bit faster than the last coil until it leaves the muzzle. Again, the amount of contained energy required to make this design lethal is prohibitive. Outside of a R&D lab of course.

One little tidbit...
Something that pissed me off about the article is their claim that a future soldier could one day just grab any metal that would fit down the barrel and fire it at the enemy. Nuts and bolts they said.
What in the everloving f*ck!
That's not how it works! Ya damned punters...

Also the claim that a few solar panels could charge the squad back up, solar is great, bit they aren't that efficient.


Pinned down behind enemy lines...

*Wait guys let me put my solar panels out to recharge! And we are out of ammunition so let's uh grab these random nuts and bolts that for whatever reason are strewn about in abundance that just so happen to be the perfect size also. Please wait until after we have gathered nuts and bolts and have recharged to resume shooting at us.

Sincerely,
FUTurE MilTaRy

(Offer does not apply at night, indoors, cloudy days, jungles, and many other climates)
 
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