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(CBS News)   Can labeled "Government Shutdown" officially kicked to February   (cbsnews.com) divider line
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2021-12-03 5:27:53 PM  
Thus solving the problem once and for all.
 
2021-12-03 5:28:27 PM  
But Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell suggested on Fox News that shutting down the government over the vaccine rules would just "create chaos and uncertainty."

I thought that was the point.
 
2021-12-03 5:32:52 PM  
Aww, I was hoping for some free paid time off.
 
2021-12-03 5:33:27 PM  
Will this be a real shutdown?  Or a "let's put up fences around open air monuments that don't have employees regularly, causing more work than is normal" type shutdown?

Will the IRS be shutbdown?  Will all the military be recalled from all the places not the USA?  Will all the non essentials be laid off and told to eat a bag of dicks?

Or will everybody get their pay checks and us plebes and serfs be the ones who pay for it?
 
2021-12-03 5:35:06 PM  
I guess Mitch's dartboard with all the reasons to blame the Dems was filled up with too many darts.
 
2021-12-03 5:35:57 PM  
Still have the Armed Forces spending bill. $750 billion dollars for 1 year. Or 3 Build Back Better bills.
 
2021-12-03 5:36:17 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Will this be a real shutdown?  Or a "let's put up fences around open air monuments that don't have employees regularly, causing more work than is normal" type shutdown?

Will the IRS be shutbdown?  Will all the military be recalled from all the places not the USA?  Will all the non essentials be laid off and told to eat a bag of dicks?

Or will everybody get their pay checks and us plebes and serfs be the ones who pay for it?


Will you ever NOT say something ridiculous?
 
2021-12-03 5:36:35 PM  
LuL

Cowards
 
2021-12-03 5:37:37 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Will this be a real shutdown?  Or a "let's put up fences around open air monuments that don't have employees regularly, causing more work than is normal" type shutdown?

Will the IRS be shutbdown?  Will all the military be recalled from all the places not the USA?  Will all the non essentials be laid off and told to eat a bag of dicks?

Or will everybody get their pay checks and us plebes and serfs be the ones who pay for it?


I've been told that we've put off beating the widows and orphans until February.
 
2021-12-03 5:37:55 PM  

special20: AmbassadorBooze: Will this be a real shutdown?  Or a "let's put up fences around open air monuments that don't have employees regularly, causing more work than is normal" type shutdown?

Will the IRS be shutbdown?  Will all the military be recalled from all the places not the USA?  Will all the non essentials be laid off and told to eat a bag of dicks?

Or will everybody get their pay checks and us plebes and serfs be the ones who pay for it?

Will you ever NOT say something ridiculous?


Will the government ever not do something ridiculous?  Like putting up fencing around an open air monument?
 
2021-12-03 5:38:17 PM  
The GOP has all but lost this shiatty bauble as a weapon at this point, just haven't admitted the fact.
 
2021-12-03 5:39:42 PM  
We'll get this nonsense again in February, and I'll say this again when it gets kicked down the road again.
 
2021-12-03 5:41:46 PM  
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2021-12-03 5:42:12 PM  
Next up: the idiotic "debt ceiling" nonsense.
 
2021-12-03 5:42:34 PM  

Weatherkiss: But Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell suggested on Fox News that shutting down the government over the vaccine rules would just "create chaos and uncertainty."

I thought that was the point.


He's worried about the uncertainty and chaos in the GOP's chances of retaking either house of Congress.

And while I don't agree (history has shown, even since the 1995 Christmas Shutdown, that GOP voters simply do not care what the GOP does, like ever. McConnell has nothing to worry about from a shutdown IMO), it is somewhat nice to know Turtlehead's looking over his shoulder and calculating accordingly.

// I only say "nice" because it led to a less-bad outcome for everyone than a shutdown
 
2021-12-03 5:44:00 PM  

NateAsbestos: Thus solving the problem once and for all.


Yeah, but...

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2021-12-03 5:44:38 PM  

Dr Dreidel: And while I don't agree (history has shown, even since the 1995 Christmas Shutdown, that GOP voters simply do not care what the GOP does, like ever. McConnell has nothing to worry about from a shutdown IMO), it is somewhat nice to know Turtlehead's looking over his shoulder and calculating accordingly.


Yeah, but if I remember correctly Clinton's popularity went way up after Newt's govt shutdowns. SNL even did a skit about it where Newt couldn't figure out WTF was happening.
 
2021-12-03 5:49:23 PM  
They kicked it to when they felt it wouldn't be as politically damaging, but they also kicked it to February so sure, shut down the government closer to mid terms you farking cowards.
 
2021-12-03 5:53:17 PM  
Keep doing this along with having a spine like Biden has shown lately with dealing with these terrorists, along with them not having an ACTUAL plan.

I know there are some people you'll never convince, but if Dems gain in either chamber it will be good and send a message to TFG to sit down and shut up while he waits for charges.
 
2021-12-03 6:00:04 PM  

Nullav: We'll get this nonsense again in February, and I'll say this again when it gets kicked down the road again.


Late October would be a good target date

/No later than "The Tuesday next after the first Monday in the month of November"
 
2021-12-03 6:01:33 PM  

Weatherkiss: But Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell suggested on Fox News that shutting down the government over the vaccine rules would just "create chaos and uncertainty."

I thought that was the point.


His handlers have spoken.

They want business back to usual, and that means vaccination across the board.

McConnell's problem is his handlers aren't necessary the same as those demanding a bill to stop the vaccine mandate
 
2021-12-03 6:10:02 PM  

NateAsbestos: Thus solving the problem once and for all.


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2021-12-03 6:20:35 PM  

Gin Buddy: Dr Dreidel: And while I don't agree (history has shown, even since the 1995 Christmas Shutdown, that GOP voters simply do not care what the GOP does, like ever. McConnell has nothing to worry about from a shutdown IMO), it is somewhat nice to know Turtlehead's looking over his shoulder and calculating accordingly.

Yeah, but if I remember correctly Clinton's popularity went way up after Newt's govt shutdowns. SNL even did a skit about it where Newt couldn't figure out WTF was happening.


...which translated to a Democratic gain of 2 seats each in the House and Senate in 1996, even with Clinton at the top of the ticket.

The math is FAR more favorable for Republicans this year.

// possibly not in the Senate
// the House is almost definitely gonna turn red
 
2021-12-03 6:21:29 PM  

Nullav: We'll get this nonsense again in February, and I'll say this again when it gets kicked down the road again.


No, we'll get it again in... like 2 weeks.

This only fixed the SPENDING issue.  We've now funded the government through February.  However, we can't actually spend the money because of the debt limit ceiling issue.  Which is coming due in a couple weeks (right around Christmas IIRC, when congress will be on break)

So this fight will happen again over the next couple weeks... and if we make it past THAT... it'll happen again again in February.

The whole point is keeping congress occupied with silliness like this so they literally can't do anything else.
 
2021-12-03 6:22:54 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Gin Buddy: Dr Dreidel: And while I don't agree (history has shown, even since the 1995 Christmas Shutdown, that GOP voters simply do not care what the GOP does, like ever. McConnell has nothing to worry about from a shutdown IMO), it is somewhat nice to know Turtlehead's looking over his shoulder and calculating accordingly.

Yeah, but if I remember correctly Clinton's popularity went way up after Newt's govt shutdowns. SNL even did a skit about it where Newt couldn't figure out WTF was happening.

...which translated to a Democratic gain of 2 seats each in the House and Senate in 1996, even with Clinton at the top of the ticket.

The math is FAR more favorable for Republicans this year.


Right, but I think that's the real reason why Mitch is playing this the way he is. If he shuts down the govt, especially over vaccine mandates, the GOP voters won't care but the rest sure as shiat will. He isn't going to do anything that might favor the Democrats.
 
2021-12-03 6:24:11 PM  

Weatherkiss: But Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell suggested on Fox News that shutting down the government over the vaccine rules would just "create chaos and uncertainty."

I thought that was the point.


Not before the midterms, and have it be republicans fault. They learned that lesson in 2018.
 
2021-12-03 6:25:48 PM  

Weatherkiss: But Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell suggested on Fox News that shutting down the government over the vaccine rules would just "create chaos and uncertainty."

I thought that was the point.


He didn't have the votes so now he's virtue signalling.
 
2021-12-03 6:34:33 PM  

Gin Buddy: Dr Dreidel: Gin Buddy: Dr Dreidel: And while I don't agree (history has shown, even since the 1995 Christmas Shutdown, that GOP voters simply do not care what the GOP does, like ever. McConnell has nothing to worry about from a shutdown IMO), it is somewhat nice to know Turtlehead's looking over his shoulder and calculating accordingly.

Yeah, but if I remember correctly Clinton's popularity went way up after Newt's govt shutdowns. SNL even did a skit about it where Newt couldn't figure out WTF was happening.

...which translated to a Democratic gain of 2 seats each in the House and Senate in 1996, even with Clinton at the top of the ticket.

The math is FAR more favorable for Republicans this year.

Right, but I think that's the real reason why Mitch is playing this the way he is. If he shuts down the govt, especially over vaccine mandates, the GOP voters won't care but the rest sure as shiat will. He isn't going to do anything that might favor the Democrats.


I think our analyses of McConnell's motivations largely agree that he's acting out of an abundance of caution. It's a smart play, even if he's sure the GOP wins next year.

I'm just adding a personal opinion that he probably doesn't need that much caution.
 
2021-12-03 7:01:48 PM  

jake3988: Nullav: We'll get this nonsense again in February, and I'll say this again when it gets kicked down the road again.

No, we'll get it again in... like 2 weeks.

This only fixed the SPENDING issue.  We've now funded the government through February.  However, we can't actually spend the money because of the debt limit ceiling issue.  Which is coming due in a couple weeks (right around Christmas IIRC, when congress will be on break)

So this fight will happen again over the next couple weeks... and if we make it past THAT... it'll happen again again in February.

The whole point is keeping congress occupied with silliness like this so they literally can't do anything else.


Week of the 16th IIRC.
 
2021-12-03 7:02:56 PM  

special20: AmbassadorBooze: Will this be a real shutdown?  Or a "let's put up fences around open air monuments that don't have employees regularly, causing more work than is normal" type shutdown?

Will the IRS be shutbdown?  Will all the military be recalled from all the places not the USA?  Will all the non essentials be laid off and told to eat a bag of dicks?

Or will everybody get their pay checks and us plebes and serfs be the ones who pay for it?

Will you ever NOT say something ridiculous?


It is performance art.

The ambassador is just showing how booze makes an ass out of everyone.
 
2021-12-03 7:07:44 PM  

NateAsbestos: Thus solving the problem once and for all.


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2021-12-03 7:09:52 PM  

fortheloveof: The ambassador is just showing how booze makes an ass out of everyone.



Not me
 
2021-12-03 7:11:45 PM  

Gin Buddy: Dr Dreidel: Gin Buddy: Dr Dreidel: And while I don't agree (history has shown, even since the 1995 Christmas Shutdown, that GOP voters simply do not care what the GOP does, like ever. McConnell has nothing to worry about from a shutdown IMO), it is somewhat nice to know Turtlehead's looking over his shoulder and calculating accordingly.

Yeah, but if I remember correctly Clinton's popularity went way up after Newt's govt shutdowns. SNL even did a skit about it where Newt couldn't figure out WTF was happening.

...which translated to a Democratic gain of 2 seats each in the House and Senate in 1996, even with Clinton at the top of the ticket.

The math is FAR more favorable for Republicans this year.

Right, but I think that's the real reason why Mitch is playing this the way he is. If he shuts down the govt, especially over vaccine mandates, the GOP voters won't care but the rest sure as shiat will. He isn't going to do anything that might favor the Democrats.


Well he doesn't want to but Frankenstein's monster over there isn't actually restrained.
 
2021-12-03 7:19:20 PM  

Gin Buddy: fortheloveof: The ambassador is just showing how booze makes an ass out of everyone.


Not me


Just wait.
 
2021-12-03 7:23:53 PM  
A modest proposal:

All debt ceiling increases must be a minimum of two years.

/ shuffles away, not at all optimistic
 
2021-12-03 7:34:34 PM  
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2021-12-03 8:33:10 PM  
Let's face it, Mitch McConnell is horribly ineffective and hated by Republicans. Putting RINOs on SCOTUS and ignoring Trump's whining that he won the election really puts a damper on his legacy. If Cruz or Hawley were the Senate Minority or Majority Leader, the government would've shut down.

Trump should nickname McConnell as Cocaine Mitch McConnell in his future press releases.
 
2021-12-03 8:39:39 PM  
There should never EVER be a government shutdown.  Ever.  If the imbeciles running things can't find the money by passing the spending plan, then they can pay to keep the government open out of their own pockets.

I'll bet they'd find a way then.
 
2021-12-03 9:01:29 PM  
It makes perfect sense to spend countless time, effort, money, focus, and political capital to solve the same simple self created problems over, and over, and over again. It is no wonder why so many jurisdictions are eager to adopt American style democracies.
 
2021-12-03 9:09:38 PM  
This "can"  shouldn't even exist.  The vote to spend the money was already passed, this is just farkery.
 
2021-12-03 9:45:36 PM  

Funk Brothers: Let's face it, Mitch McConnell is horribly ineffective and hated by Republicans. Putting RINOs on SCOTUS and ignoring Trump's whining that he won the election really puts a damper on his legacy. If Cruz or Hawley were the Senate Minority or Majority Leader, the government would've shut down.

Trump should nickname McConnell as Cocaine Mitch McConnell in his future press releases.


whatever you say cupcake
 
2021-12-03 9:46:32 PM  
Not close enough to the election, apparently.

Or the GQP is convinced BBB is dead and don't need the threat right now. Gosh why would they feel that way?
 
2021-12-04 10:57:38 AM  

Lumbar Puncture: They kicked it to when they felt it wouldn't be as politically damaging, but they also kicked it to February so sure, shut down the government closer to mid terms you farking cowards.


By February we should see the full effects of the holidays covid wave.

The govt may be forced into a shutdown (not a financial one) to quell the latest pandemic wave.

As far as "when not as politically damaging", the Rs have already lost this fight forever.

It doesn't matter if it's an R or D president, the blowback hits the party refusing to keep the govt running, and it's always the Rs threatening it, and always the Rs receiving the blowback, even from their own members, especially R governors as that sweet pork tap dries up.
 
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