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2021-12-03 8:21:11 AM  
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2021-12-03 9:01:04 AM  
Have you met America?
 
2021-12-03 9:21:55 AM  
My solution:
If you claimed religious exception and get sick from covid: You are not admitted to a hospital, you get sent to your church. I call this: "Let god sort this out."

If you are vaccinated and\or have a legit reason not to get vaccinated than if you need to get sent to a hospital than you should be admitted.

Now if this happens to a child, and the parents did the BS of "blah blah exception." I charge them with child endangerment.
 
2021-12-03 9:22:53 AM  

Gubbo: Have you met America?


In the long run should we just let the crap run wild as America has no concept of what it means to isolate?
 
2021-12-03 9:25:03 AM  

Merltech: Gubbo: Have you met America?

In the long run should we just let the crap run wild as America has no concept of what it means to isolate?


You can't mandate anything in the US. Too many people want to believe that they are "free" to do what they want. And fark any and everyone else.
 
2021-12-03 9:37:11 AM  
I'm still sayin' tranq guns and a $50 bounty would wrap this up in a week.
 
2021-12-03 9:37:22 AM  

Gubbo: You can't mandate anything in the US. Too many people want to believe that they are "free" to do what they want. And fark any and everyone else.


In all fairness that is how we let businesses act.
 
2021-12-03 9:37:33 AM  
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2021-12-03 9:40:38 AM  

169th Cousin: [Fark user image image 425x382]


Why isn't this the beginning and end of this conversation? Seriously.  Seriously.  It's enough for me.
But I'm a junkie. I guess antivax people are damn  Geniuses
 
2021-12-03 9:41:17 AM  
He can't do anything more than the bare minimum. Any concrete steps will be met with taxpayer funded lawsuits from individual states thus negatively effecting the people he'd want to protect. America is so broken the best choice of action is to do nothing.
 
2021-12-03 9:41:54 AM  
I'm in suburban Ohio. There are places with mask mandates, either by government ruling, or business mandate.

Adherence is maybe 50%, enforcement is close to zero.

I made the mistake of telling one person "you're supposed to have a mask on in here." Apparently that warranted "oh yeah? Why don't you try to make me motherf**ker?"

That's what we are dealing with, and why this will not end. Because 40% of this country would purposely endanger everyone as long as "stigginit".
 
2021-12-03 9:42:32 AM  
He required masks on federal and interstate transport like trains, buses, and planes.  He has the jurisdiction to do that.  He could also require it on federal lands like National Parks, but that's probably unnecessary.  My county did require it in the parks, but that's currently over.

What the President can't do is require you to wear a mask anywhere else.  He could try it, but as any person who is realistic understands, it's not going to work.  The legal challenges would win and nobody would enforce it.  You'd get an immediate injunction and then you'd lose the case.  It would never even get off the ground.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/can-the-president-mandate-face-masks/
 
2021-12-03 9:43:26 AM  

Gubbo: Have you met America?


Americans can be easily swayed with a little violence.
 
2021-12-03 9:44:06 AM  
Not going to happen.  The people pushing mandates can't even be bothered to follow the rules they created.
 
2021-12-03 9:45:05 AM  

Elliot8654: I'm in suburban Ohio. There are places with mask mandates, either by government ruling, or business mandate.

Adherence is maybe 50%, enforcement is close to zero.

I made the mistake of telling one person "you're supposed to have a mask on in here." Apparently that warranted "oh yeah? Why don't you try to make me motherf**ker?"

That's what we are dealing with, and why this will not end. Because 40% of this country would purposely endanger everyone as long as "stigginit".


The local Home Depot has a sign that masks are required. I'd say it's followed by 5% of customers and maybe 50% of staff. I'll still wear mine though.
 
2021-12-03 9:45:07 AM  

Veloram: Gubbo: Have you met America?

Americans can be easily swayed with a little violence.


No, they can't!

Again, have you met America??
 
2021-12-03 9:45:22 AM  
Shut down networks and social media passing along disinformation.

You want to scream about Free Speech, yell in a tin can with string attached.
 
2021-12-03 9:45:31 AM  

Gubbo: Have you met America?


"I would do anything for my country!", yelled the patriot who refused to be mildly inconvenienced.
 
2021-12-03 9:45:35 AM  

Rapmaster2000: He required masks on federal and interstate transport like trains, buses, and planes.  He has the jurisdiction to do that.  He could also require it on federal lands like National Parks, but that's probably unnecessary.  My county did require it in the parks, but that's currently over.

What the President can't do is require you to wear a mask anywhere else.  He could try it, but as any person who is realistic understands, it's not going to work.  The legal challenges would win and nobody would enforce it.  You'd get an immediate injunction and then you'd lose the case.  It would never even get off the ground.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/can-the-president-mandate-face-masks/


Buh-buh the President is a big daddy! he makes everything happen. Republicans say something and it happens before they get the last diphthong out, and, and, and Biden's weak and really really really is a republican an an  and we should get everything we want an aa aaaaahh...
 
2021-12-03 9:46:00 AM  

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My mother-in-law, my kid, and I had pretty much this same discussion.  My MIL has the smallpox vaccine scar, but I don't.  My kid is almost 5 years old and we were talking about why we set an appointment for the first available day after her birthday to get her first COVID shot.
 
2021-12-03 9:47:35 AM  
We're very fortunate that this virus family is patient and doesn't want to kill you immediately. There's a non-zero chance some variant comes around that's extremely dangerous. I wonder what this will look like if the mortality rate is more like 10%. We'd all have to take shifts at the crematoriums.
 
2021-12-03 9:47:36 AM  
"The U.S. government will require private health insurers to reimburse their 150 million customers for 100% of the cost of over-the-counter, at-home COVID-19 tests, administration officials said, and make 50 million more tests available free through rural clinics and health centers for the uninsured."

America, always the innovator, implementing universal healthcare illness-by-illness rather than state-by-state or all at once.  See, we always knew those stupid socialists in Europe were doing it wrong. /s
 
2021-12-03 9:48:31 AM  

Merltech: Gubbo: Have you met America?

In the long run should we just let the crap run wild as America has no concept of what it means to isolate?


That's pretty much what we've been doing in most of the country. Even in states and municipalities with strong mask laws, you see people disregarding it all the freaking time in bars, restaurants, and shops without consequences.
 
2021-12-03 9:48:55 AM  

Elliot8654: I'm in suburban Ohio. There are places with mask mandates, either by government ruling, or business mandate.

Adherence is maybe 50%, enforcement is close to zero.

I made the mistake of telling one person "you're supposed to have a mask on in here." Apparently that warranted "oh yeah? Why don't you try to make me motherf**ker?"

That's what we are dealing with, and why this will not end. Because 40% of this country would purposely endanger everyone as long as "stigginit".


Assuming you are white you could have shot that dude for that remark. Stand your ground and all that.

Just saying.

Clean up crew needs to get to work.
 
2021-12-03 9:49:13 AM  

Peach_Fuz: Elliot8654: I'm in suburban Ohio. There are places with mask mandates, either by government ruling, or business mandate.

Adherence is maybe 50%, enforcement is close to zero.

I made the mistake of telling one person "you're supposed to have a mask on in here." Apparently that warranted "oh yeah? Why don't you try to make me motherf**ker?"

That's what we are dealing with, and why this will not end. Because 40% of this country would purposely endanger everyone as long as "stigginit".

The local Home Depot has a sign that masks are required. I'd say it's followed by 5% of customers and maybe 50% of staff. I'll still wear mine though.


Went to Home Depot a week ago. Same thing. Masks, required, zero enforcement. Finally walked out of the store when I asked if someone could help me find an obsure fastener, and the guy who came over had his mask on like a chinstrap and kept coughing right next to me.

Couldn't take it anymore. I don't need a set of big-head screws THAT bad.
 
2021-12-03 9:49:44 AM  

Peach_Fuz: Elliot8654: I'm in suburban Ohio. There are places with mask mandates, either by government ruling, or business mandate.

Adherence is maybe 50%, enforcement is close to zero.

I made the mistake of telling one person "you're supposed to have a mask on in here." Apparently that warranted "oh yeah? Why don't you try to make me motherf**ker?"

That's what we are dealing with, and why this will not end. Because 40% of this country would purposely endanger everyone as long as "stigginit".

The local Home Depot has a sign that masks are required. I'd say it's followed by 5% of customers and maybe 50% of staff. I'll still wear mine though.


Stuff like this is entirely cultural.  95% of the customers (sometimes 100%) at my Publix wear a mask even though it's not required.  Everyone works at either Emory Hospital, the CDC, or Children's Healthcare of Atlanta in this neighborhood.  So that's the culture.  The Home Depot is more like 90%.  It's most people, but a lot of the contractors don't.  I can see their reasoning.  They've probably all contracted it already anyway.

When I go out to the suburbs, the amount of masking drops the farther I drive from the city.  I had to stop in Warner-Robins two months ago, and mask usage was about 2%.
 
2021-12-03 9:50:02 AM  
Annoyed that reality just can't compete with grand escapism when the microphone has been taken over by LARPers?

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2021-12-03 9:51:45 AM  
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"bUT It'S nOt tHoRoUgHLy vETteD yET!"
 
2021-12-03 9:52:24 AM  

Bathtub Cynic: Elliot8654: I'm in suburban Ohio. There are places with mask mandates, either by government ruling, or business mandate.

Adherence is maybe 50%, enforcement is close to zero.

I made the mistake of telling one person "you're supposed to have a mask on in here." Apparently that warranted "oh yeah? Why don't you try to make me motherf**ker?"

That's what we are dealing with, and why this will not end. Because 40% of this country would purposely endanger everyone as long as "stigginit".

Assuming you are white you could have shot that dude for that remark. Stand your ground and all that.

Just saying.

Clean up crew needs to get to work.


Difficulty; i'm not a pants-wetting coward that needs to carry guns to the grocery store.
 
2021-12-03 9:53:39 AM  
Problem is that when you politely ask someone to put a mask on they punch or shoot you.

It needs to be the other way around. Society needs to be angry at the pricks who think they're special so don't need to pull the mask up over their nose.

I'm with Germany. Mandate the shiat out of public health issues.

Shame we didn't enforce a proper lockdown at the start and kill it when it began
 
2021-12-03 9:54:19 AM  

Eightballjacket: Not going to happen.  The people pushing mandates can't even be bothered to follow the rules they created.


All those white supremacists on welfare don't have to get shots, either, nor does our imported servant underclass.
 
2021-12-03 9:54:19 AM  

Rapmaster2000: He required masks on federal and interstate transport like trains, buses, and planes.  He has the jurisdiction to do that.  He could also require it on federal lands like National Parks, but that's probably unnecessary.  My county did require it in the parks, but that's currently over.

What the President can't do is require you to wear a mask anywhere else.  He could try it, but as any person who is realistic understands, it's not going to work.  The legal challenges would win and nobody would enforce it.  You'd get an immediate injunction and then you'd lose the case.  It would never even get off the ground.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/can-the-president-mandate-face-masks/


Didn't they relax those rules after the vaccine became widely available? I went on a boat in june and they made a big deal about there being a federal mask mandate, please don't tell at them, they're just trying to stay legally in business. Took the same boat trip in October and only the crew was masked.
 
2021-12-03 9:54:25 AM  

Elliot8654: Went to Home Depot a week ago. Same thing. Masks, required, zero enforcement. Finally walked out of the store when I asked if someone could help me find an obsure fastener, and the guy who came over had his mask on like a chinstrap and kept coughing right next to me.


No mandates here. Maybe 10% wearing masks in the schools. All the dividers  and extra sanitation supplies got yanked this summer. No contact tracing. Only excusing absences with a positive test. No quarantines.

So dumb.
 
2021-12-03 9:56:03 AM  

Slaxl: It needs to be the other way around. Society needs to be angry at the pricks who think they're special so don't need to pull the mask up over their nose.


I was in the Caribbean and Mexico since the pandemic started.

Good luck getting into a store without an armed guard turning you around.

Except Providenciales, they weren't armed but 2 guys who could have been Div 1 Linemen were at the entrance making sure you were masked, used hand sanitizer, and disinfected your shoes...
 
2021-12-03 9:58:48 AM  
The vax mandate through OSHA has pretty much been shut down by the courts. Congress is so disfunctional  that they can barely keep the government lights on. Even then I'm not sure they could have jurisdiction over it as it doesn't involve commerce, which is the loophole that they use for a lot of laws like drug prohibition.

I suppose they could threaten states with highway funding losses, but even then each state would have to pass it.
 
2021-12-03 10:00:06 AM  
Maybe all of us maskies should get a can of this and make it preferable to wear a mask....

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2021-12-03 10:01:36 AM  

Tabletop: Rapmaster2000: He required masks on federal and interstate transport like trains, buses, and planes.  He has the jurisdiction to do that.  He could also require it on federal lands like National Parks, but that's probably unnecessary.  My county did require it in the parks, but that's currently over.

What the President can't do is require you to wear a mask anywhere else.  He could try it, but as any person who is realistic understands, it's not going to work.  The legal challenges would win and nobody would enforce it.  You'd get an immediate injunction and then you'd lose the case.  It would never even get off the ground.

https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law-and-life/can-the-president-mandate-face-masks/

Didn't they relax those rules after the vaccine became widely available? I went on a boat in june and they made a big deal about there being a federal mask mandate, please don't tell at them, they're just trying to stay legally in business. Took the same boat trip in October and only the crew was masked.


It was always only for indoor spaces.  If you were inside a ferry, then yes. If you're out on the deck, then no.  I don't think this was ever relaxed.  However, the crew is required to enforce.  If they don't or can't enforce, then it's not going to be enforced.

A difference here is also the amount of power given to flight crews.  The FAA gives flight attendants and pilots a lot of power.  Maybe deckhands aren't given that much power to enforce?
 
2021-12-03 10:03:06 AM  
Law enforcement will never enforce a mandate because they are on the side of stupid.
 
2021-12-03 10:04:43 AM  

buntz: Veloram: Gubbo: Have you met America?

Americans can be easily swayed with a little violence.

No, they can't!

Again, have you met America??


Sure have. Youre the guy who forgot when they said to never forget 9/11, arent ya?
 
2021-12-03 10:07:01 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Peach_Fuz: Elliot8654: I'm in suburban Ohio. There are places with mask mandates, either by government ruling, or business mandate.

Adherence is maybe 50%, enforcement is close to zero.

I made the mistake of telling one person "you're supposed to have a mask on in here." Apparently that warranted "oh yeah? Why don't you try to make me motherf**ker?"

That's what we are dealing with, and why this will not end. Because 40% of this country would purposely endanger everyone as long as "stigginit".

The local Home Depot has a sign that masks are required. I'd say it's followed by 5% of customers and maybe 50% of staff. I'll still wear mine though.

Stuff like this is entirely cultural.  95% of the customers (sometimes 100%) at my Publix wear a mask even though it's not required.  Everyone works at either Emory Hospital, the CDC, or Children's Healthcare of Atlanta in this neighborhood.  So that's the culture.  The Home Depot is more like 90%.  It's most people, but a lot of the contractors don't.  I can see their reasoning.  They've probably all contracted it already anyway.

When I go out to the suburbs, the amount of masking drops the farther I drive from the city.  I had to stop in Warner-Robins two months ago, and mask usage was about 2%.


Definitely agree about the proximity to a large city and mask wearing. A week and a half ago I was in St. Paul for a couple nights while my daughter was being born. Granted we were at a hospital but the mask wearing was nearly 100%. Even when I ventured to nearby establishments for quality food it was still nearly 100%.

I live 20 miles south of St. Paul in a township with maybe 2,000 residents. The mask wearing here is almost nonexistent. I work about halfway between the two locations I just mentioned and it's about 50%.
 
2021-12-03 10:07:14 AM  

Veloram: Gubbo: Have you met America?

Americans can be easily swayed with a little violence.


It would take a lot of it to vaccinate everybody.
 
2021-12-03 10:10:06 AM  

Peach_Fuz: A week and a half ago I was in St. Paul for a couple nights while my daughter was being born.


Congratulations.  Try to get some sleep.
 
2021-12-03 10:10:07 AM  

Geotpf: Veloram: Gubbo: Have you met America?

Americans can be easily swayed with a little violence.

It would take a lot of it to vaccinate everybody.


Well yeah. When i said "a little violence", i meant deliberately murdering 3000+. This is America, after all. Anything short of billions is small here
 
2021-12-03 10:11:26 AM  

Veloram: Gubbo: Have you met America?

Americans can be easily swayed with a little violence.


Not in beneficial directions.
 
2021-12-03 10:13:00 AM  
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2021-12-03 10:20:00 AM  

jso2897: Veloram: Gubbo: Have you met America?

Americans can be easily swayed with a little violence.

Not in beneficial directions.


Economy boomed with the war effort from WW2, which only happened after Pearl Harbor, so we are going to have to agree to disagree on that one. Or are you saying that fighting the Axis and growing the economy arent beneficial?
 
2021-12-03 10:23:18 AM  

Merltech: My solution:
If you claimed religious exception and get sick from covid: You are not admitted to a hospital, you get sent to your church. I call this: "Let god sort this out."

If you are vaccinated and\or have a legit reason not to get vaccinated than if you need to get sent to a hospital than you should be admitted.

Now if this happens to a child, and the parents did the BS of "blah blah exception." I charge them with child endangerment.


Difficulty: most of the hospitals around me are religious (Ohio Health Methodist, Mount Carmel Catholic) or carry the name of Jeffrey Epstein associate (Wexner Medical Center)
 
2021-12-03 10:23:28 AM  

Veloram: Sure have. Youre the guy who forgot when they said to never forget 9/11, arent ya?


What does the emergency telephone number have to deal with anything?!
 
2021-12-03 10:27:33 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: The vax mandate through OSHA has pretty much been shut down by the courts. Congress is so disfunctional  that they can barely keep the government lights on. Even then I'm not sure they could have jurisdiction over it as it doesn't involve commerce, which is the loophole that they use for a lot of laws like drug prohibition.

I suppose they could threaten states with highway funding losses, but even then each state would have to pass it.


Right, and that's just the thing. People tend to forget that the United States is called that for a reason. It's a bunch of individual states. The founders really did not intend for the federal government in general, and the president in particular, to have overarching control over the country, because it is too distant from where the people are. The constitution was written to make that clear. State governments have a lot of power, and a lot of what goes wrong is because people forget that they should pay attention to who wields that power.

If we had a citizenry that actually understood that power is held by far more people than just the president of the US, more sensible decisions would probably get made sometimes.
 
2021-12-03 10:29:48 AM  

buntz: Veloram: Gubbo: Have you met America?

Americans can be easily swayed with a little violence.

No, they can't!

Again, have you met America??


I know, right?

https://www.tennessean.com/in-depth/news/local/2021/01/10/timeline-christmas-morning-bombing-nashville/6578915002/

Some dude Farking RVbombed the center of goddamn Nashville playing Petula Clark last Christmas Day and nobody did a goddamn thing.
 
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