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433 [TotalFark]
2021-12-03 3:36:41 AM  
The best part about this headline is that it's not about a mass shooting, unless you consider 3 pointers.
 
2021-12-03 4:15:33 AM  
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2021-12-03 6:54:10 AM  
How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed
 
2021-12-03 7:28:03 AM  

Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed


They weren't even really pressing in the second. The baskets were just dropping. It was really really bad.
 
2021-12-03 7:42:20 AM  
The '97 Portland Trailblazers remain the only team to have their score doubled.

/124-59 against the Pacers
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 7:59:14 AM  

Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed


"1983, the Detroit Pistons beat the Denver Nuggets 186-184 in triple overtime"

"November 2, 1990. In that game, Golden State defeated Denver 162-158 in regulation"

Yeah, changed so much.
 
2021-12-03 7:59:15 AM  
Imagine if Memphis actually had its best player in this game.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 8:01:25 AM  

IAmRight: Imagine if Memphis actually had its best player in this game.


Yeah, when I saw this last night I was like "damn, ja must've had like 50...(reads article), oh..ja is hurt? GodDAMN"
 
2021-12-03 8:04:13 AM  

151: IAmRight: Imagine if Memphis actually had its best player in this game.

Yeah, when I saw this last night I was like "damn, ja must've had like 50...(reads article), oh..ja is hurt? GodDAMN"


I was more impressed at how evenly distributed the points were.

Thunder vs. Grizzlies - Box Score - December 2, 2021 - ESPN

I don't think I've ever seen that many players in double digits before, and probably never will again.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 8:05:26 AM  

NewportBarGuy: 151: IAmRight: Imagine if Memphis actually had its best player in this game.

Yeah, when I saw this last night I was like "damn, ja must've had like 50...(reads article), oh..ja is hurt? GodDAMN"

I was more impressed at how evenly distributed the points were.

Thunder vs. Grizzlies - Box Score - December 2, 2021 - ESPN

I don't think I've ever seen that many players in double digits before, and probably never will again.


Yep, same. Wish I would've watched this game, must've been fun as hell to see people coming off the bench dropping bombs left and right
 
2021-12-03 8:06:04 AM  

Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed


It's why you can't compare Michael Jordan to LeBron James. They're playing a very different game. 1990s Basketball was far more physical, which made scoring much more difficult. With fouls called more tightly, players  have much more room to work, and the scoring rose. Steph Curry doesn't exist in a game where the moment you set up for the three somebody is leaning into you.

Wether this is a good change or not? That's up to you. Indeed, in most sports, you can't really compare 1990s play to today's play. Another example is the Women's Uneven Parallel Bars in gymnastics. You literally cannot do Nadia Komenchi's routines today, because the apparatus has changed so much that it's impossible to do (and you couldn't do today's routines on her bars.)
 
2021-12-03 8:26:13 AM  
"Tonight is not necessarily who we are,'' Thunder coach Mark Daigneault said.

"Necessarily"

Could be who we are, but for now I think we're at least better than this.  Maybe.
 
2021-12-03 8:35:00 AM  

Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed


3 pointers.

About 15 years ago someone did the math and realized that shooting basically nothing but 3 pointers was advantageous over the older styles of play. Even when the best 3 shooter sits around 54% as long as he keeps taking those shots all night, the scoring difference between 3s and 2s is huge over the course of a game. Add to that, the expected skill set of the modern NBA player is ridiculous- if you can't shoot for distance, you probably won't even get in the league no matter your position. Even centers have to be able to shoot a 3. Everyone can do everything in the modern NBA, and that mostly means shoot 3s.

Recall Grinnel college circa early 00s. They weren't good at basketball traditionally, but they shot every shot from behind the arc and averaged like 120 pts a game in college ball. People noticed.
 
2021-12-03 8:35:42 AM  

151: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

"1983, the Detroit Pistons beat the Denver Nuggets 186-184 in triple overtime"

"November 2, 1990. In that game, Golden State defeated Denver 162-158 in regulation"

Yeah, changed so much.


Those scores would be outliers now tbf
 
2021-12-03 8:37:54 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

It's why you can't compare Michael Jordan to LeBron James. They're playing a very different game. 1990s Basketball was far more physical, which made scoring much more difficult. With fouls called more tightly, players  have much more room to work, and the scoring rose. Steph Curry doesn't exist in a game where the moment you set up for the three somebody is leaning into you.

Wether this is a good change or not? That's up to you. Indeed, in most sports, you can't really compare 1990s play to today's play. Another example is the Women's Uneven Parallel Bars in gymnastics. You literally cannot do Nadia Komenchi's routines today, because the apparatus has changed so much that it's impossible to do (and you couldn't do today's routines on her bars.)


Analysts have thoroughly debunked the "more physical game" BS. Jordans career was highly televised, we have the footage. If anything, guys were softer then tbh, and most looked like little kids against MJ. Lebron faces much higher quality opponents today.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 8:42:25 AM  

Bathtub Cynic: 151: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

"1983, the Detroit Pistons beat the Denver Nuggets 186-184 in triple overtime"

"November 2, 1990. In that game, Golden State defeated Denver 162-158 in regulation"

Yeah, changed so much.

Those scores would be outliers now tbf


Yeah but to say the winning score in the 90s was frequently 73 is just as much as outlier, it's not college ball
 
2021-12-03 8:42:51 AM  

Bathtub Cynic: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

It's why you can't compare Michael Jordan to LeBron James. They're playing a very different game. 1990s Basketball was far more physical, which made scoring much more difficult. With fouls called more tightly, players  have much more room to work, and the scoring rose. Steph Curry doesn't exist in a game where the moment you set up for the three somebody is leaning into you.

Wether this is a good change or not? That's up to you. Indeed, in most sports, you can't really compare 1990s play to today's play. Another example is the Women's Uneven Parallel Bars in gymnastics. You literally cannot do Nadia Komenchi's routines today, because the apparatus has changed so much that it's impossible to do (and you couldn't do today's routines on her bars.)

Analysts have thoroughly debunked the "more physical game" BS. Jordans career was highly televised, we have the footage. If anything, guys were softer then tbh, and most looked like little kids against MJ. Lebron faces much higher quality opponents today.


Also, the first half of Lebron's career was full of more rock fights than anything in the '90s.

And the '80s had the worst defenses ever; that's when half of Jordan's career was played.
 
2021-12-03 8:48:21 AM  

151: Bathtub Cynic: 151: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

"1983, the Detroit Pistons beat the Denver Nuggets 186-184 in triple overtime"

"November 2, 1990. In that game, Golden State defeated Denver 162-158 in regulation"

Yeah, changed so much.

Those scores would be outliers now tbf

Yeah but to say the winning score in the 90s was frequently 73 is just as much as outlier, it's not college ball


I'm by no means a basketball fan. I just remember seeing so many final scores in the Jordan netflix doc that seemed incredibly low to me.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 8:50:56 AM  

Gubbo: 151: Bathtub Cynic: 151: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

"1983, the Detroit Pistons beat the Denver Nuggets 186-184 in triple overtime"

"November 2, 1990. In that game, Golden State defeated Denver 162-158 in regulation"

Yeah, changed so much.

Those scores would be outliers now tbf

Yeah but to say the winning score in the 90s was frequently 73 is just as much as outlier, it's not college ball

I'm by no means a basketball fan. I just remember seeing so many final scores in the Jordan netflix doc that seemed incredibly low to me.


Fair enough
 
2021-12-03 8:57:51 AM  
Man... if this thread has taught me anything it's that I could DEFINITELY take MJ one-on-one... no doubt in my mind.

Michael Jordan (Retired, Age 36) Vs. Corey Benjamin (Rookie, Age 21) + Interview (November 11, 1999)
Youtube GPfCGcG7H8Y


/Just any reason to post this...
 
2021-12-03 9:00:29 AM  

Gubbo: 151: Bathtub Cynic: 151: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

"1983, the Detroit Pistons beat the Denver Nuggets 186-184 in triple overtime"

"November 2, 1990. In that game, Golden State defeated Denver 162-158 in regulation"

Yeah, changed so much.

Those scores would be outliers now tbf

Yeah but to say the winning score in the 90s was frequently 73 is just as much as outlier, it's not college ball

I'm by no means a basketball fan. I just remember seeing so many final scores in the Jordan netflix doc that seemed incredibly low to me.


I actually looked it up and was surprised.  I felt the same way as you (was a huge basketball fan in the 1990s)... scoring was the same back then.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

Scoring dipped in the late-90s/early-2000s.  But there have been dips and peaks throughout.  We're not in any sort of special era of the game, just one of many high-scoring phases.
 
2021-12-03 9:07:45 AM  
it would have been funny if OKC +72 was actually one of those promo bets you see advertised all the time as a guaranteed win to get you to sign up
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 9:09:42 AM  

ElwoodCuse: it would have been funny if OKC +72 was actually one of those promo bets you see advertised all the time as a guaranteed win to get you to sign up


Hahaha hell yeah it would've been. They usually limit those to like $25 Max bets though, so nobody would've got TOO butthurt about it
 
2021-12-03 9:11:08 AM  

151: ElwoodCuse: it would have been funny if OKC +72 was actually one of those promo bets you see advertised all the time as a guaranteed win to get you to sign up

Hahaha hell yeah it would've been. They usually limit those to like $25 Max bets though, so nobody would've got TOO butthurt about it


Yeah, but it was in my $25 20-way parlay for $33.4 million and they were the only one that didn't hit!
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 9:12:45 AM  

NewportBarGuy: 151: ElwoodCuse: it would have been funny if OKC +72 was actually one of those promo bets you see advertised all the time as a guaranteed win to get you to sign up

Hahaha hell yeah it would've been. They usually limit those to like $25 Max bets though, so nobody would've got TOO butthurt about it

Yeah, but it was in my $25 20-way parlay for $33.4 million and they were the only one that didn't hit!


Haha, if you're doing 20-way parlays, you got a problem

/And if you hit all 19 except that one you got an insider
 
2021-12-03 9:14:18 AM  

151: NewportBarGuy: 151: ElwoodCuse: it would have been funny if OKC +72 was actually one of those promo bets you see advertised all the time as a guaranteed win to get you to sign up

Hahaha hell yeah it would've been. They usually limit those to like $25 Max bets though, so nobody would've got TOO butthurt about it

Yeah, but it was in my $25 20-way parlay for $33.4 million and they were the only one that didn't hit!

Haha, if you're doing 20-way parlays, you got a problem

/And if you hit all 19 except that one you got an insider


If you've hit the first 19, hedge the last one.
 
2021-12-03 9:54:22 AM  

Bathtub Cynic: if you can't shoot for distance, you probably won't even get in the league no matter your position. Even centers have to be able to shoot a 3. Everyone can do everything in the modern NBA, and that mostly means shoot 3s.


Ben Simmons says hi.
 
2021-12-03 10:17:19 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Man... if this thread has taught me anything it's that I could DEFINITELY take MJ one-on-one... no doubt in my mind.

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/Just any reason to post this...


There's a clip around from Jordan's first year where he pivots in the lane and it was like something in cobra v mongoose. Your eye really couldn't follow it. It's galling how much better Jordan was that anyone else.  LaBron moves like a freight train in comparison.
 
2021-12-03 10:20:01 AM  
My last football game in college, 1971, we lost to Coe College 82-0.
 
2021-12-03 10:24:30 AM  

yakmans_dad: NewportBarGuy: Man... if this thread has taught me anything it's that I could DEFINITELY take MJ one-on-one... no doubt in my mind.

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/Just any reason to post this...

There's a clip around from Jordan's first year where he pivots in the lane and it was like something in cobra v mongoose. Your eye really couldn't follow it. It's galling how much better Jordan was that anyone else.  LaBron moves like a freight train in comparison.


I can't believe I mis-spelled LeBron. Turned him into a girl. (Don't come to the house, Mr. James. I apologize)

What I really wanted to mention is that Arizona State scored 29 points in a college game the other night. So, ridiculous in the other direction.
 
2021-12-03 10:43:00 AM  

151: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

"1983, the Detroit Pistons beat the Denver Nuggets 186-184 in triple overtime"

"November 2, 1990. In that game, Golden State defeated Denver 162-158 in regulation"

Yeah, changed so much.


Chuck Daly's Bad Boys Pistons and later the Pat Riley/Van Gundy Knicks brought offense to a standstill with physical play. Then the hand check rule was implemented, and guards started taking over again.
 
2021-12-03 10:50:56 AM  
OKC must have been very naughty.

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2021-12-03 11:31:39 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

They weren't even really pressing in the second. The baskets were just dropping. It was really really bad.


I said it in the NFL thread last night, but Grizz shot around 64% from the floor and OK shot around 32%, with 20 turnovers. 

That's how you get this blowout.
 
2021-12-03 12:32:36 PM  
I'm guessing the NBA equivalent of Barry Horowitz?
 
2021-12-03 1:24:27 PM  

yakmans_dad: NewportBarGuy: Man... if this thread has taught me anything it's that I could DEFINITELY take MJ one-on-one... no doubt in my mind.

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/Just any reason to post this...

There's a clip around from Jordan's first year where he pivots in the lane and it was like something in cobra v mongoose. Your eye really couldn't follow it. It's galling how much better Jordan was that anyone else.  LaBron moves like a freight train in comparison.


LeBron is totally legit but he's also 6'8" and has shoulders like cannon balls.  The dude mostly just backs up on people, ducks down, launches them out of the way with his shoulders and drops it in. MJ had obscene athleticism, LeBron is an unstoppable bulldozer.

/Steph is better
 
2021-12-03 1:43:51 PM  

151: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

"1983, the Detroit Pistons beat the Denver Nuggets 186-184 in triple overtime"

"November 2, 1990. In that game, Golden State defeated Denver 162-158 in regulation"

Yeah, changed so much.


The game has changed a TON.

In the 2002-2003 season, out of 30 teams, 3 teams averaged 100+ points per game.  2003-2004:  2 teams.  2004-2005:  6 teams.  2005-2006.  By 2017-2018 season, 28 teams averaged 100+.  2018-2019, 2019-2020, 2020-2021 all 30 teams averaged 100+.  Current season has the Pistons and Thunder below.  In the last year of Jordan's Bull's (1997-1998 season), 3 teams were 100+, but 2 teams averaged in the 80s.

As the 3 pointer has become more valued, and shooters prioritized over big, slow Ostertags, scoring has consistently increased.
 
2021-12-03 3:06:55 PM  

ToastmasterGeneral: As the 3 pointer has become more valued, and shooters prioritized over big, slow Ostertags, scoring has consistently increased.


Ostertag is my least favorite player of all time.  ALL TIME.  He was such a soft, lazy piece of shiat.  He combined the athleticism of Jeff Van Gundy with the work ethic of Antoine Walker.  It was painful to see him on the same team with guys like Stockton, Russell, and Malone.  I was always baffled how he continued to stick around the league.
 
2021-12-03 3:07:27 PM  
That post was unfair to Antoine Walker and I feel bad about making it.
 
2021-12-03 3:18:05 PM  
I went to a Sonics game once and the Sonics scored 58 points all game.
 
2021-12-03 3:46:02 PM  

ToastmasterGeneral: 151: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

"1983, the Detroit Pistons beat the Denver Nuggets 186-184 in triple overtime"

"November 2, 1990. In that game, Golden State defeated Denver 162-158 in regulation"

Yeah, changed so much.

The game has changed a TON.

In the 2002-2003 season, out of 30 teams, 3 teams averaged 100+ points per game.  2003-2004:  2 teams.  2004-2005:  6 teams.  2005-2006.  By 2017-2018 season, 28 teams averaged 100+.  2018-2019, 2019-2020, 2020-2021 all 30 teams averaged 100+.  Current season has the Pistons and Thunder below.  In the last year of Jordan's Bull's (1997-1998 season), 3 teams were 100+, but 2 teams averaged in the 80s.

As the 3 pointer has become more valued, and shooters prioritized over big, slow Ostertags, scoring has consistently increased.


Scoring per game is a bit deceiving, though - the biggest reason for the higher scoring is that teams are playing much, much faster.  The "Seven Seconds or Less" Suns led the 05/06 NBA in pace with 96.92 possessions per game.  Last season, the Wizards led the league in pace at 104.67 and the SSoL Suns would have been ahead of only the Knicks.

When each team is getting 8 extra possessions every game of course scoring is going to go up.
 
2021-12-03 4:14:15 PM  
Just read an article that OKC is in the middle of a "dump for the future" like the 6ers did 5-10 years ago, although maybe even more extreme, from an article:

The Thunder $79.1 million payroll is by far the lowest in the NBA - a staggering $36 million less than the second-lowest Grizzlies.

I mean, although still more highly paid of course just because of the nature of it all... the Thunder are probably almost close to a G-League team this year as far as overall talent.   If you put the G-League "All Stars" together and gave them a month to gel, they'd probably hang with the Thunder in a 7 game series.
 
2021-12-03 5:30:55 PM  
Really tired of fans saying that the game was tougher back when.   No.   Just no.

PPG went above 100.0 in 1957.
PPG went above 110.0 from 1959 to 1971
PPG went below 100.0 from 1995-2007, and has been generally above that since.

Bottom line, the game has always been "physical", but scoring has been big for 60 years and people can stop pretending otherwise any day now.
 
2021-12-03 6:35:21 PM  
Good. F*ck OKC.
 
2021-12-03 6:55:45 PM  

Bathtub Cynic: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

It's why you can't compare Michael Jordan to LeBron James. They're playing a very different game. 1990s Basketball was far more physical, which made scoring much more difficult. With fouls called more tightly, players  have much more room to work, and the scoring rose. Steph Curry doesn't exist in a game where the moment you set up for the three somebody is leaning into you.

Wether this is a good change or not? That's up to you. Indeed, in most sports, you can't really compare 1990s play to today's play. Another example is the Women's Uneven Parallel Bars in gymnastics. You literally cannot do Nadia Komenchi's routines today, because the apparatus has changed so much that it's impossible to do (and you couldn't do today's routines on her bars.)

Analysts have thoroughly debunked the "more physical game" BS. Jordans career was highly televised, we have the footage. If anything, guys were softer then tbh, and most looked like little kids against MJ. Lebron faces much higher quality opponents today.


Physical, as in, guys got dragged, guys got hit. Fouls were HARD. Things got bloody, too.

Even in the 80s when they didn't play defense, the game was rough as hell, particularly compared to today. Not just the Pistons or Celtics or later the Knicks, either.
 
2021-12-03 6:58:30 PM  
I'd have loved to have seen LeBron take on the Pistons.

He could literally murder Bill Laimbeer, but would he have done it? Would he have eventually just pulled a Karl Malone and just break open Isaiah's face?

Because I'll be honest. LeBron has always played physically but his toughness hasn't really been tested as he's never been on  the receiving end of a truly hard foul in his life. The kinds of fouls which were daily back in the early90s and will now draw suspensions.
 
2021-12-03 7:01:33 PM  

IAmRight: Also, the first half of Lebron's career was full of more rock fights than anything in the '90s.


Lol a bunch of babies swinging wildly at eachother with almost 0 intention of connecting, unless it involved the fans.

Not even Jermaine ONeal with a running start on a fan could do what Kermit did to Rudy. Granted, that was a couple decades even before the 90s. But *
 
2021-12-03 7:46:47 PM  

puffy999: Bathtub Cynic: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Gubbo: How?

I'm remembering the Jordan documentary where the winning team wouldn't even have that many points.

Basketball sure has changed

It's why you can't compare Michael Jordan to LeBron James. They're playing a very different game. 1990s Basketball was far more physical, which made scoring much more difficult. With fouls called more tightly, players  have much more room to work, and the scoring rose. Steph Curry doesn't exist in a game where the moment you set up for the three somebody is leaning into you.

Wether this is a good change or not? That's up to you. Indeed, in most sports, you can't really compare 1990s play to today's play. Another example is the Women's Uneven Parallel Bars in gymnastics. You literally cannot do Nadia Komenchi's routines today, because the apparatus has changed so much that it's impossible to do (and you couldn't do today's routines on her bars.)

Analysts have thoroughly debunked the "more physical game" BS. Jordans career was highly televised, we have the footage. If anything, guys were softer then tbh, and most looked like little kids against MJ. Lebron faces much higher quality opponents today.

Physical, as in, guys got dragged, guys got hit. Fouls were HARD. Things got bloody, too.

Even in the 80s when they didn't play defense, the game was rough as hell, particularly compared to today. Not just the Pistons or Celtics or later the Knicks, either.


Right and that roughness was brought out because it's not a contact sport. 'Hack-A-Shaq' or the stuff the Pistons/Celtics/Knicks did, was bad for the game. Flopping fouls are also bad for the game. There should be a better middle.
 
2021-12-03 8:33:45 PM  

puffy999: IAmRight: Also, the first half of Lebron's career was full of more rock fights than anything in the '90s.

Lol a bunch of babies swinging wildly at eachother with almost 0 intention of connecting, unless it involved the fans.

Not even Jermaine ONeal with a running start on a fan could do what Kermit did to Rudy. Granted, that was a couple decades even before the 90s. But *


Rock fights are used to describe sh*t shooting and low scoring, not violence. When you're having a rock fight, you're throwing wildly and ducking, rather than aiming and actually targeting anything.

The early 2000s are when you had the games that ended 62-57, not the '90s.
 
2021-12-04 4:02:53 AM  

phimuskapsi: Right and that roughness was brought out because it's not a contact sport. 'Hack-A-Shaq' or the stuff the Pistons/Celtics/Knicks did, was bad for the game. Flopping fouls are also bad for the game. There should be a better middle


Don't disagree there.
Except Hack A Shaq. It's a good strategy on bad shooters. Learn your free throws, kids.

IAmRight: Rock fights are used to describe sh*t shooting and low scoring, not violence. When you're having a rock fight, you're throwing wildly and ducking, rather than aiming and actually targeting anything.

The early 2000s are when you had the games that ended 62-57, not the '90s


Ohh I see. Yeah. Blame the Spurs for some of that.
 
2021-12-04 8:07:09 AM  
My last year of college at UAM our football team won one game we won 100-00 to a team called college of faith. They were literally asking us for equipment at halftime and before the game, our college president said it would never happen again- surprise college of faith wasn't a real college.
 
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