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2021-12-03 6:29:12 AM  
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2021-12-03 7:21:10 AM  
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2021-12-03 7:21:50 AM  
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2021-12-03 7:24:04 AM  
Can we have Mueller present it to Congress himself again? I'd really like an encore of his "confused old man shuffling through binders" routine that served America so well last time.
 
2021-12-03 7:26:23 AM  
Alternative? So, what, rather than jack shiat, this one does fark all?
 
2021-12-03 7:29:35 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Can we have Mueller present it to Congress himself again? I'd really like an encore of his "confused old man shuffling through binders" routine that served America so well last time.


Let's give him a call. I think he's still on Trump's golf course.
 
2021-12-03 7:30:57 AM  
Feds could release 'alternative' Mueller report soon

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2021-12-03 7:32:18 AM  
To what end?  To impeach TFG again?
 
2021-12-03 7:34:11 AM  

Skeleton Man: Alternative? So, what, rather than jack shiat, this one does fark all?


This doesn't even do jack shiat.

That picture above, the one with the guy rolling his eyes? THAT'S JACK SHIAT!

\ No, it's Becky.
 
2021-12-03 7:34:48 AM  
Well, they need to make it at least appear like they are doing important things.

It's funny that no one ever seems to notice that it always amounts to nothing.
 
2021-12-03 7:37:31 AM  
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Ah, those halcyon early years of Trump. We were so naïve then with the whole "somethings gonna happen!" belief.

Loving the cynicism on display now though. This is an important step towards the kind of bottom up anger that will creat the political shakeup we need.
 
2021-12-03 7:40:57 AM  

GoldSpider: To what end?  To impeach TFG again?


Since that farkwad Barr swept it under the rug, I'd like to exactly how much help Trump and the traitor Republicans got from the Russians.
 
2021-12-03 7:45:13 AM  
Everyone got played.

When Mueller was first announced everyone was like good choice top notch straight  shooter.

Then the hes a buddy with Barr and the rest start leaking. GOP decides to attack Mueller switches from pro to con. Dems take that and defend Mueller.
Mueller shows up and he has no idea what the hell is going on and seems to lack even basic knowledge of what his investigation found and the materials involved

So what's the alt report gonna be ?
 
2021-12-03 7:45:44 AM  
We all know TFG and the GOP orchestrated the pandemic to overshadow this.
 
2021-12-03 7:50:49 AM  

Jake Havechek: GoldSpider: To what end?  To impeach TFG again?

Since that farkwad Barr swept it under the rug, I'd like to exactly how much help Trump and the traitor Republicans got from the Russians.


Other than for whipping up a good righteous outrage on FarkPol for an hour or two, why?
 
2021-12-03 7:51:50 AM  

Shaggy_C: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 225x225]

Ah, those halcyon early years of Trump. We were so naïve then with the whole "somethings gonna happen!" belief.

Loving the cynicism on display now though. This is an important step towards the kind of bottom up anger that will creat the political shakeup we need.


A shakeup is what we need.  But the biggest problem we have right now is that we do not know what form that shakeup would take.

Let's put it this way...  We do NOT want a military takeover or other armed rebellion.  Very bad.  Very unstable.
We do NOT want y'allQuida taking over either.

A little less than half this country wants a shakeup too.  But what THEY want is basically an authoritarian, religious, white supremacist government.  We don't want that either.

See...  There is an answer for this.  What we really want is for the government to function as intended and for there to be consequences for breaking the rules (and the laws!).  If just THAT alone were fixed, we wouldn't be in the farking mess that we are right now.

So in my view, "shakeup" means that it's time to start enforcing the rules so that this government can weed out the morons, start acting like adults, and get this country on track.
And the very first step in that process is to shut up the idiots that are currently causing the most trouble.  We call those people "The Republicans".
 
2021-12-03 7:53:17 AM  
Sounds more like a Mueller Silmarillion
 
2021-12-03 7:53:25 AM  
Is this a director's cut with 20 extra minutes of CGI crap?
 
2021-12-03 7:54:08 AM  

GoldSpider: Jake Havechek: GoldSpider: To what end?  To impeach TFG again?

Since that farkwad Barr swept it under the rug, I'd like to exactly how much help Trump and the traitor Republicans got from the Russians.

Other than for whipping up a good righteous outrage on FarkPol for an hour or two, why?


Because Russian criminals and Republicans go together like peas and carrots. They're total scum.
 
2021-12-03 7:54:52 AM  

kindms: Mueller shows up and he has no idea what the hell is going on and seems to lack even basic knowledge of what his investigation found and the materials involved


I think Mueller was like, "I gave you farking 400-page report, this is your problem now."  Why should he direct it all, if Congress is too pussy to do anything?
Gosh, Mueller, why didn't you do anything about TFG?  Besides the exhaustive report he made, you mean?
 
2021-12-03 7:55:34 AM  

Jake Havechek: GoldSpider: Jake Havechek: GoldSpider: To what end?  To impeach TFG again?

Since that farkwad Barr swept it under the rug, I'd like to exactly how much help Trump and the traitor Republicans got from the Russians.

Other than for whipping up a good righteous outrage on FarkPol for an hour or two, why?

Because Russian criminals and Republicans go together like peas and carrots. They're total scum.


Right.  And?
 
2021-12-03 7:56:36 AM  
Unless it contains a forward that is an arrest warrant for TFG, followed by 900 pages of "Oh my god, he's so guilty, lock this SOB up", not interested
 
2021-12-03 7:57:15 AM  

cryinoutloud: Gosh, Mueller, why didn't you do anything about TFG?


You mean beyond what has been discussed exhaustively here?  We need MORE threads about why Mueller stayed within the boundaries of the investigation prescribed by his boss?
 
2021-12-03 7:57:44 AM  

durbnpoisn: Shaggy_C: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 225x225]

Ah, those halcyon early years of Trump. We were so naïve then with the whole "somethings gonna happen!" belief.

Loving the cynicism on display now though. This is an important step towards the kind of bottom up anger that will creat the political shakeup we need.

A shakeup is what we need.  But the biggest problem we have right now is that we do not know what form that shakeup would take.

Let's put it this way...  We do NOT want a military takeover or other armed rebellion.  Very bad.  Very unstable.
We do NOT want y'allQuida taking over either.

A little less than half this country wants a shakeup too.  But what THEY want is basically an authoritarian, religious, white supremacist government.  We don't want that either.

See...  There is an answer for this.  What we really want is for the government to function as intended and for there to be consequences for breaking the rules (and the laws!).  If just THAT alone were fixed, we wouldn't be in the farking mess that we are right now.

So in my view, "shakeup" means that it's time to start enforcing the rules so that this government can weed out the morons, start acting like adults, and get this country on track.
And the very first step in that process is to shut up the idiots that are currently causing the most trouble.  We call those people "The Republicans".


and shutting down Fox News, OAN, controlling misinformation on social media. At least 85% of our problems would dissappear overnight
 
2021-12-03 7:58:52 AM  

Artcurus: and shutting down Fox News, OAN, controlling misinformation on social media.


I don't think anyone here would enjoy living in the places where this is done.
 
2021-12-03 7:59:07 AM  

cryinoutloud: kindms: Mueller shows up and he has no idea what the hell is going on and seems to lack even basic knowledge of what his investigation found and the materials involved

I think Mueller was like, "I gave you farking 400-page report, this is your problem now."  Why should he direct it all, if Congress is too pussy to do anything?
Gosh, Mueller, why didn't you do anything about TFG?  Besides the exhaustive report he made, you mean?


Did you not watch the congressional hearings ? He had no idea about what was in the report and kept having to refer to underlings

He was touted as a razor sharp no nonsense guy and it was obvious to all that he didn't even bother to prepare for the hearings
 
2021-12-03 7:59:39 AM  
Barr will just read this one first and declare it 'non-cannon' or 'void of plot' or 'Dear Leader isn't implicated in any of these crimes either'  and Fox News will say "It had been read and Our Dear Leader is vindicated...   which means 'no crimes'!"

My Brother in Law will say "The President was im-vi-dicted!  Another waste of my taxes!"
 
2021-12-03 8:02:02 AM  

kindms: cryinoutloud: kindms: Mueller shows up and he has no idea what the hell is going on and seems to lack even basic knowledge of what his investigation found and the materials involved

I think Mueller was like, "I gave you farking 400-page report, this is your problem now."  Why should he direct it all, if Congress is too pussy to do anything?
Gosh, Mueller, why didn't you do anything about TFG?  Besides the exhaustive report he made, you mean?

Did you not watch the congressional hearings ? He had no idea about what was in the report and kept having to refer to underlings

He was touted as a razor sharp no nonsense guy and it was obvious to all that he didn't even bother to prepare for the hearings


Unfortunetly it looks like he really is suffering from cognitive decline. By the time he testified it was seriously effecting him.
 
2021-12-03 8:02:03 AM  

GoldSpider: Artcurus: and shutting down Fox News, OAN, controlling misinformation on social media.

I don't think anyone here would enjoy living in the places where this is done.


Misinformation  and Fox News is one of the biggest threats to democracy right now. When you have Tucker Carlson asking if Naziism was really that bad, yes there's a serious problem.
 
2021-12-03 8:03:20 AM  
Even though TFG's crimes well outweigh his predecessors', his cronies are barely doing any time.

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And TFG still walks free despite having his crimes documented both in text and audio.

The US is dying because Republicans (and other rich people) are allowed to break laws with impunity.
 
2021-12-03 8:11:47 AM  

Artcurus: GoldSpider: Artcurus: and shutting down Fox News, OAN, controlling misinformation on social media.

I don't think anyone here would enjoy living in the places where this is done.

Misinformation  and Fox News is one of the biggest threats to democracy right now. When you have Tucker Carlson asking if Naziism was really that bad, yes there's a serious problem.


Think about what it would mean to give the Trump administration the kind of power you want to give the government, and tell me it's a good idea.
 
2021-12-03 8:11:50 AM  
Robert Mueller (R)...

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2021-12-03 8:12:23 AM  

durbnpoisn: Well, they need to make it at least appear like they are doing important things.

It's funny that no one ever seems to notice that it always amounts to nothing.


We notice...  Just exhausted of it.  It's good to have hope, but it's also good to have a plan in place when that hope gets dashed to the rocks.
 
2021-12-03 8:12:48 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: Even though TFG's crimes well outweigh his predecessors', his cronies are barely doing any time.

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And TFG still walks free despite having his crimes documented both in text and audio.

The US is dying because Republicans (and other rich people) are allowed to break laws with impunity.


Yeah, Republicans were insisting they didn't want two standards of the law when Clinton lied under oath about having a personal affair with a staff member. Yet multiple Republican officials have not been held to the same standard of the law for much more serious criminal conduct with much broader implications.
 
2021-12-03 8:13:29 AM  

GoldSpider: Jake Havechek: GoldSpider: To what end?  To impeach TFG again?

Since that farkwad Barr swept it under the rug, I'd like to exactly how much help Trump and the traitor Republicans got from the Russians.

Other than for whipping up a good righteous outrage on FarkPol for an hour or two, why?


Because the truth is important. Why should we allow Barr's lies to stand as the sole public record?
 
2021-12-03 8:14:52 AM  

Shaggy_C: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 225x225]

Ah, those halcyon early years of Trump. We were so naïve then with the whole "somethings gonna happen!" belief.


Remember this one?

It's Mueller Time! Trump Administration Season Ending
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2021-12-03 8:15:33 AM  

qorkfiend: GoldSpider: Jake Havechek: GoldSpider: To what end?  To impeach TFG again?

Since that farkwad Barr swept it under the rug, I'd like to exactly how much help Trump and the traitor Republicans got from the Russians.

Other than for whipping up a good righteous outrage on FarkPol for an hour or two, why?

Because the truth is important. Why should we allow Barr's lies to stand as the sole public record?


The official report already contradicts what Barr declared.
 
2021-12-03 8:18:41 AM  

kindms: Everyone got played.

When Mueller was first announced everyone was like good choice top notch straight  shooter.

Then the hes a buddy with Barr and the rest start leaking. GOP decides to attack Mueller switches from pro to con. Dems take that and defend Mueller.
Mueller shows up and he has no idea what the hell is going on and seems to lack even basic knowledge of what his investigation found and the materials involved

So what's the alt report gonna be ?


I read the whole report. It was a blueprint for how to impeach the President. It made it clear that doing so was the job of Congress, as laid out in the Constitution. The case on obstruction of justice was clear. That the Senate refused to vote to convict was not Muellers's fault. That the House mismanaged their case also wasn't his fault.
 
2021-12-03 8:19:38 AM  
Phew, and just in the nick of time.
 
2021-12-03 8:23:39 AM  

durbnpoisn: Well, they need to make it at least appear like they are doing important things.

It's funny that no one ever seems to notice that it always amounts to nothing.


Those that notice are accused of being Republicans.
 
2021-12-03 8:24:14 AM  

Shaggy_C: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 225x225]

Ah, those halcyon early years of Trump. We were so naïve then with the whole "somethings gonna happen!" belief.

Loving the cynicism on display now though. This is an important step towards the kind of bottom up anger that will creat the political shakeup we need.


What do you mean "we", white man?
 
2021-12-03 8:29:16 AM  

GoldSpider: Artcurus: GoldSpider: Artcurus: and shutting down Fox News, OAN, controlling misinformation on social media.

I don't think anyone here would enjoy living in the places where this is done.

Misinformation  and Fox News is one of the biggest threats to democracy right now. When you have Tucker Carlson asking if Naziism was really that bad, yes there's a serious problem.

Think about what it would mean to give the Trump administration the kind of power you want to give the government, and tell me it's a good idea.


If you don't let Nazis have freedom of speech, they'll get rid of yours!

Hey, schmot guy, they'll do that anyway. Ask Germany what happens when Nazis have freedom of speech.
 
2021-12-03 8:38:32 AM  
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We've learned farking nothing.
 
2021-12-03 8:43:44 AM  
I'm starting to regret my Mueller Time! tattoo.
 
2021-12-03 8:49:41 AM  
Eh, I watched the hearing.  He remembered what he remembered.  He couldn't speak to what had been redacted and he wouldn't speak about what was "outside of the purview" of the investigation.  He must have said that phrase 100 times and Dems didn't once take the opportunity to attack the scope of the investigation or the timing of the abrupt ending.
All around Mueller was competent but Dems were too trusting and unable to think on their feet.

Republicans did the same thing they always do - they didn't ask a single question about the investigation and during their allotted times they all took the time to lie and grandstand.  Not one of them would have repeated their own words had there been a contempt charge waiting for them.
 
2021-12-03 8:59:03 AM  

durbnpoisn: So in my view, "shakeup" means that it's time to start enforcing the rules so that this government can weed out the morons, start acting like adults, and get this country on track.
And the very first step in that process is to shut up the idiots that are currently causing the most trouble. We call those people "The Republicans".


100% agreed. I don't think the system is irreparably broken, but we as voters need to hold people to account. And that starts with a serious reassessment of those in power who haven't taken serious action about these crimes. Unfortunately, we're likely always going to be in a situation where the senate can block an impeachment, but there should be a concerted effort to channel our anger into moderate House districts where we can remind voters again and again of crimes committed and lack of resolve by representatives to punish it.

I would also argue that such "shake up" does mean quite a few more primary battles on our side of the aisle, too. The fact that we have an elderly leadership in the Democratic party that is more concerned about decorum than they are about winning elections is a huge problem. I'm not arguing we need more "governance by tweet" like we get from the likes of AOC, but we need to get people into House leadership who play the role of the pitbull and make headlines on their own terms rather than consistently letting the Right Wing Noise Machine dictate the terms of the debate. I honestly can't tell you the last time Pelosi proactively held a press conference that changed the narrative in this country. It's always "here's why we can't pass this bill" and "we did our job, why doesn't the senate do theirs" and the associated blah, blah, blah.
 
2021-12-03 9:02:32 AM  
I had all the [team] members ... write up an internal report memorializing everything we found, our conclusions, and the limitations on the investigation, and provided it to the other team leaders as well as had it maintained in our files,"

=scope of the Barr whitewash

and let's not ever forget this :

"if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so."
 
2021-12-03 9:04:00 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: GoldSpider: Artcurus: GoldSpider: Artcurus: and shutting down Fox News, OAN, controlling misinformation on social media.

I don't think anyone here would enjoy living in the places where this is done.

Misinformation  and Fox News is one of the biggest threats to democracy right now. When you have Tucker Carlson asking if Naziism was really that bad, yes there's a serious problem.

Think about what it would mean to give the Trump administration the kind of power you want to give the government, and tell me it's a good idea.

If you don't let Nazis have freedom of speech, they'll get rid of yours!

Hey, schmot guy, they'll do that anyway. Ask Germany what happens when Nazis have freedom of speech.


We already saw all the stuff that Trump tried to do and was subsequently thwarted by the law. And you want to remove those legal guardrails.

Brilliant.
 
2021-12-03 9:05:06 AM  
I remember when he was threatened to be arrested if he read his report to Congress and went outside of the redactions.  I watched the hearings, he wouldn't even touch the articles of Chicanary they put in front of him or read from them.   

I look forward to reading it in it's entirety.  
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/22/po​l​itics/doj-has-not-seen-robert-mueller-​opening-statement/index.html
 
2021-12-03 9:08:32 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: Can we have Mueller present it to Congress himself again? I'd really like an encore of his "confused old man shuffling through binders" routine that served America so well last time.


Maybe he will announce Hillary Clinton is being investigated for removing mattress tags and cloning Hunter Biden to guard clones of JFK Jr. who are hiding the fact that the original, real JKF Jr. is still alive and managing Trump's second term because Joe Biden died five years ago in a tragic mango truck biking accident.
Is this so hard people?
 
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