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(ESPN)   Friday Night has two conference championship games. At 7:00 PM ET on CBSSN it is Western Kentucky and UTSA for the Conference USA title. At 8:00 PM ET on ABC it is Oregon and Utah. Come one, come all for the start of Championship Weekend   (espn.com) divider line
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2021-12-03 7:22:20 AM  
My predictions are UTSA and Utah winning tonight.
 
2021-12-03 9:25:09 AM  
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2021-12-03 6:44:32 PM  
Woody bless you, Subby. There was much fretting as to whether there'd be a thread on this lovely evening.
 
2021-12-03 6:55:51 PM  
Why TF is Okie St and Baylor kicking off at 11:00am local tomorrow? That's so farking dumb.
 
2021-12-03 7:00:53 PM  
I'm kind of surprised at the talk of Brent Venables heading back to Oklahoma to take the head job there. Venables has had opportunities out the ass in the past and there has never been a whiff of him wanting to be a head coach. I guess it might be different having Oklahoma offered to you rather than a mid-tier job or a job in an also-ran conference.

Some people just like doing their own thing, having one job they like with no thoughts of anything else. I figured that was him after he kept turning everybody down over the years, sort of like Bud Foster was the Virginia Tech DC because he enjoyed what he had.
 
2021-12-03 7:06:22 PM  

WoodyHayes: I'm kind of surprised at the talk of Brent Venables heading back to Oklahoma to take the head job there. Venables has had opportunities out the ass in the past and there has never been a whiff of him wanting to be a head coach. I guess it might be different having Oklahoma offered to you rather than a mid-tier job or a job in an also-ran conference.

Some people just like doing their own thing, having one job they like with no thoughts of anything else. I figured that was him after he kept turning everybody down over the years, sort of like Bud Foster was the Virginia Tech DC because he enjoyed what he had.


I lived in Oklahoma when Venables was the DC there. He wasn't well thought of by the fanbase. AT ALL. I'd be shocked if he took the job there or was offered it.
 
2021-12-03 7:16:35 PM  
With everything this Utah team has been through this year - star RB dying in the off-season, another player murdered during the season, a 1-2 start, the starting QB just up and leaving the team after 3 games, etc - the fact that they're even playing in this game is remarkable.  I would love nothing more than to see this team play in the Rose Bowl for the first time in program history.

GO UTES!!
 
2021-12-03 7:16:54 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: WoodyHayes: I'm kind of surprised at the talk of Brent Venables heading back to Oklahoma to take the head job there. Venables has had opportunities out the ass in the past and there has never been a whiff of him wanting to be a head coach. I guess it might be different having Oklahoma offered to you rather than a mid-tier job or a job in an also-ran conference.

Some people just like doing their own thing, having one job they like with no thoughts of anything else. I figured that was him after he kept turning everybody down over the years, sort of like Bud Foster was the Virginia Tech DC because he enjoyed what he had.

I lived in Oklahoma when Venables was the DC there. He wasn't well thought of by the fanbase. AT ALL. I'd be shocked if he took the job there or was offered it.


I always thought that Brent Venables was overrated.

Oklahoma had a bad stretch for a while in big games. Near the end of the night you'd always see their defensive stats for the previous games of the season compared to that particular game's ass kicking and it was an ugly comparison, an almost routine one.

Then, he had the success at Clemson which I wasn't expecting so I'm not entirely sure what to think.

The DC I can't figure out why everybody likes him is Alex Grinch. Columbus, Ohio boy or not, I've never quite gotten that one.
 
2021-12-03 7:23:22 PM  

WoodyHayes: Hillbilly Jim: WoodyHayes: I'm kind of surprised at the talk of Brent Venables heading back to Oklahoma to take the head job there. Venables has had opportunities out the ass in the past and there has never been a whiff of him wanting to be a head coach. I guess it might be different having Oklahoma offered to you rather than a mid-tier job or a job in an also-ran conference.

Some people just like doing their own thing, having one job they like with no thoughts of anything else. I figured that was him after he kept turning everybody down over the years, sort of like Bud Foster was the Virginia Tech DC because he enjoyed what he had.

I lived in Oklahoma when Venables was the DC there. He wasn't well thought of by the fanbase. AT ALL. I'd be shocked if he took the job there or was offered it.

I always thought that Brent Venables was overrated.

Oklahoma had a bad stretch for a while in big games. Near the end of the night you'd always see their defensive stats for the previous games of the season compared to that particular game's ass kicking and it was an ugly comparison, an almost routine one.

Then, he had the success at Clemson which I wasn't expecting so I'm not entirely sure what to think.

The DC I can't figure out why everybody likes him is Alex Grinch. Columbus, Ohio boy or not, I've never quite gotten that one.


The Sooner Venables hate was real. The wife and I were out in a bar with friends during the infamous Boise St. game. I was the only guy laughing my ass off. Well there was an Okie St alum that was rather pleased but he kept his feelings in tact.
 
2021-12-03 7:27:12 PM  
Christobal is gonna be at Miami next year.
I think even Oregon is reserved to that. They're upping his contract offer but I don't think $7m per is enough. He's a Miami boy.
 
2021-12-03 7:42:26 PM  

Gratch: With everything this Utah team has been through this year - star RB dying in the off-season, another player murdered during the season, a 1-2 start, the starting QB just up and leaving the team after 3 games, etc - the fact that they're even playing in this game is remarkable.  I would love nothing more than to see this team play in the Rose Bowl for the first time in program history.

GO UTES!!


2023 70K, if we're not all dead, I'll have to buy you a beer. Figured I should stop thinking about going and do it, that and Wacken Open Air.

Soft spot for Utah due to Kyle Whittingham's hair, even if it isn't quite as manly as in the recent past.

Hillbilly Jim: The wife and I were out in a bar with friends during the infamous Boise St.


No dog in that fight so it was one hell of a spectacle to watch, would have been nuts to see it at a bar in Oklahoma.
 
2021-12-03 8:06:55 PM  

WoodyHayes: Gratch: With everything this Utah team has been through this year - star RB dying in the off-season, another player murdered during the season, a 1-2 start, the starting QB just up and leaving the team after 3 games, etc - the fact that they're even playing in this game is remarkable.  I would love nothing more than to see this team play in the Rose Bowl for the first time in program history.

GO UTES!!

2023 70K, if we're not all dead, I'll have to buy you a beer. Figured I should stop thinking about going and do it, that and Wacken Open Air.

Soft spot for Utah due to Kyle Whittingham's hair, even if it isn't quite as manly as in the recent past.

Hillbilly Jim: The wife and I were out in a bar with friends during the infamous Boise St.

No dog in that fight so it was one hell of a spectacle to watch, would have been nuts to see it at a bar in Oklahoma.


Muskogee,Oklahoma USA was an interesting place to live.

Oh and Merle Haggard was a damn liar. They certainly do smoke marijuana in Muskogee. We were unloading the U-Haul and our new neighbor came over to introduce herself.

"Hi! My name is Ruby but everyone calls me Doobie, want to smoke a welcome to the neighborhood bowl?"
 
2021-12-03 8:13:20 PM  
WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?
 
2021-12-03 8:18:53 PM  
There is no way to tell where that ball should have been spotted.
 
2021-12-03 8:33:23 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?


Nevada borders Oregon and Utah. And as an added bonus there are strippers. Lots of strippers.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 8:42:15 PM  
What are the bowl implications for the winner here? Like is Rose bowl even a possibility?
 
2021-12-03 8:48:17 PM  
Utes pick 6!

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2021-12-03 8:51:41 PM  
Y'all, I gotta stop and get emotional for a second. 10 years ago, I was a (non-traditional) senior at UTSA, and I went to my first Roadrunners game with my then 6-year-old daughter. It was also everybody else's first one, because the program had just begun. The school itself only started in 1969, so it's not like there was a super-long history of not playing football. Tonight, my Runners are playing for a C-USA championship, and then we're off to the AAC.

The plan was ambitious from the start. Lynn Hickey, the AD, expected one season in FCS, then on to FBS and the WAC, and upwards from there. The first major school to schedule a series was Kansas State, because Bill Snyder has a better nose for cupcakes than a fat kid on a diet.

And our coaches. Larry Coker gave birth to the thing, and it was always neat to see him on campus. You could tell if he had a big meeting or recruiting trip that day, because he'd wear his championship ring from The U, and you'd notice that thing across a parking lot. Frank Wilson came next, and that dude could flat-out recruit. And then... now... Coach Traylor.

Jeff Traylor may be the perfect Texas football coach. As a high school coach- and in case y'all haven't heard, high school football is kind of a big thing in Texas- in 15 years at his alma mater, he won district 12 times and 3 state championships. Gilmer HS plays at Jeff Traylor Stadium. He then decided to give the college game a shot, was an assistant at UT (and the Big XII Recruiter Of The Year), and then SMU and Arkansas... and now he's here. And that man could motivate you to run through a concrete wall and bring the rebar home as a souvenir. And when other Texas jobs came open, he signed a 10-year extension, because he's into building new stuff.

And now we're here. Fark thread and everything, The game is far from over, but all else being equal, I'd rather be up 15 at the half than down. Who knows what the next 10 years hold? But I'll be there for the ride.

¡MEEP MEEP!
 
2021-12-03 8:52:49 PM  
Having a uniform  that looks like you were run over and left in a ditch is a good look when you're  losing. Not.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 8:53:31 PM  

Gonz: Y'all, I gotta stop and get emotional for a second. 10 years ago, I was a (non-traditional) senior at UTSA, and I went to my first Roadrunners game with my then 6-year-old daughter. It was also everybody else's first one, because the program had just begun. The school itself only started in 1969, so it's not like there was a super-long history of not playing football. Tonight, my Runners are playing for a C-USA championship, and then we're off to the AAC.

The plan was ambitious from the start. Lynn Hickey, the AD, expected one season in FCS, then on to FBS and the WAC, and upwards from there. The first major school to schedule a series was Kansas State, because Bill Snyder has a better nose for cupcakes than a fat kid on a diet.

And our coaches. Larry Coker gave birth to the thing, and it was always neat to see him on campus. You could tell if he had a big meeting or recruiting trip that day, because he'd wear his championship ring from The U, and you'd notice that thing across a parking lot. Frank Wilson came next, and that dude could flat-out recruit. And then... now... Coach Traylor.

Jeff Traylor may be the perfect Texas football coach. As a high school coach- and in case y'all haven't heard, high school football is kind of a big thing in Texas- in 15 years at his alma mater, he won district 12 times and 3 state championships. Gilmer HS plays at Jeff Traylor Stadium. He then decided to give the college game a shot, was an assistant at UT (and the Big XII Recruiter Of The Year), and then SMU and Arkansas... and now he's here. And that man could motivate you to run through a concrete wall and bring the rebar home as a souvenir. And when other Texas jobs came open, he signed a 10-year extension, because he's into building new stuff.

And now we're here. Fark thread and everything, The game is far from over, but all else being equal, I'd rather be up 15 at the half than down. Who knows what the next 10 years hold? But I'll be there for the ride.

¡MEEP MEEP!


That's an awesome story, bro

/Mean it sincerely
 
2021-12-03 8:54:36 PM  

151: What are the bowl implications for the winner here? Like is Rose bowl even a possibility?


Yeah. The winner here will probably get Ohio St.
 
2021-12-03 8:55:23 PM  

151: What are the bowl implications for the winner here? Like is Rose bowl even a possibility?


Yes, this year the semifinals are Cotton and Orange, so the Pac-12 champion is pretty much guaranteed a Rose Bowl berth.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-03 8:56:25 PM  
/can't multiple-quote cuz mobile

Thanks to you both!
 
2021-12-03 9:05:06 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: WoodyHayes: Hillbilly Jim: WoodyHayes: I'm kind of surprised at the talk of Brent Venables heading back to Oklahoma to take the head job there. Venables has had opportunities out the ass in the past and there has never been a whiff of him wanting to be a head coach. I guess it might be different having Oklahoma offered to you rather than a mid-tier job or a job in an also-ran conference.

Some people just like doing their own thing, having one job they like with no thoughts of anything else. I figured that was him after he kept turning everybody down over the years, sort of like Bud Foster was the Virginia Tech DC because he enjoyed what he had.

I lived in Oklahoma when Venables was the DC there. He wasn't well thought of by the fanbase. AT ALL. I'd be shocked if he took the job there or was offered it.

I always thought that Brent Venables was overrated.

Oklahoma had a bad stretch for a while in big games. Near the end of the night you'd always see their defensive stats for the previous games of the season compared to that particular game's ass kicking and it was an ugly comparison, an almost routine one.

Then, he had the success at Clemson which I wasn't expecting so I'm not entirely sure what to think.

The DC I can't figure out why everybody likes him is Alex Grinch. Columbus, Ohio boy or not, I've never quite gotten that one.

The Sooner Venables hate was real. The wife and I were out in a bar with friends during the infamous Boise St. game. I was the only guy laughing my ass off. Well there was an Okie St alum that was rather pleased but he kept his feelings in tact.


My CSB about that game is that I saw it after attending the Rose Bowl.  Michigan lost to USC, Lloyd Carr hadn't figured out the forward pass was a viable tactic and Pete Carroll exploited this ruthlessly.  I was at an excellent Korean BBQ place in Los Angeles with my brother and his friends.  Unfortunately, my seat meant I was the only one in our party with my back to the TV showing the Oklahoma/Boise State game, so I had to wait for the replay after seeing everyone else around the table react to it.
 
2021-12-03 9:06:38 PM  
Oregon field goal attempt goes wide, still 14-0 Utes.

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2021-12-03 9:16:01 PM  
Fumblebees!
 
2021-12-03 9:25:03 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: "Hi! My name is Ruby but everyone calls me Doobie, want to smoke a welcome to the neighborhood bowl?"


Ha!

Gonz: Y'all, I gotta stop and get emotional for a second. 10 years ago, I was a (non-traditional) senior at UTSA, and I went to my first Roadrunners game with my then 6-year-old daughter. It was also everybody else's first one, because the program had just begun. The school itself only started in 1969, so it's not like there was a super-long history of not playing football. Tonight, my Runners are playing for a C-USA championship, and then we're off to the AAC.

The plan was ambitious from the start. Lynn Hickey, the AD, expected one season in FCS, then on to FBS and the WAC, and upwards from there. The first major school to schedule a series was Kansas State, because Bill Snyder has a better nose for cupcakes than a fat kid on a diet.

And our coaches. Larry Coker gave birth to the thing, and it was always neat to see him on campus. You could tell if he had a big meeting or recruiting trip that day, because he'd wear his championship ring from The U, and you'd notice that thing across a parking lot. Frank Wilson came next, and that dude could flat-out recruit. And then... now... Coach Traylor.

Jeff Traylor may be the perfect Texas football coach. As a high school coach- and in case y'all haven't heard, high school football is kind of a big thing in Texas- in 15 years at his alma mater, he won district 12 times and 3 state championships. Gilmer HS plays at Jeff Traylor Stadium. He then decided to give the college game a shot, was an assistant at UT (and the Big XII Recruiter Of The Year), and then SMU and Arkansas... and now he's here. And that man could motivate you to run through a concrete wall and bring the rebar home as a souvenir. And when other Texas jobs came open, he signed a 10-year extension, because he's into building new stuff.

And now we're here. Fark thread and everything, The game is far from over, but all else being equal, I'd rather be up 15 at the half than down. Who knows what the next 10 years hold? But I'll be there for the ride.

¡MEEP MEEP!


I've got you tagged as a UTSA fan from way back. No idea when, exactly, but it isn't from within the past five years. Must be a fun ride.

A podcast I listen to has a UTSA guy on it and even though it isn't devoted to college football, he makes sure to mention them just a bit. He be happy, just like you.
 
2021-12-03 9:47:55 PM  
How the fark did Ohio State lose to these clowns?
 
2021-12-03 9:48:41 PM  
Oregon has completely imploded. 61-7 over 6 quarters? Yiiiiikes
 
2021-12-03 9:50:35 PM  
Miami is rethinking that potential offer to Cristobal.
 
2021-12-03 9:58:50 PM  
I hate Notre Dame but it would be hysterical if they pull of a national championship a month after Kelly leaves.
 
2021-12-03 10:09:55 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?


New stadium, they did it for the Niners stadium for the last 5 years and they are going to SoFi next year and it's supposed to rotate for all 3 after
 
2021-12-03 10:21:39 PM  

eddievercetti: Hillbilly Jim: WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?

New stadium, they did it for the Niners stadium for the last 5 years and they are going to SoFi next year and it's supposed to rotate for all 3 after


Rumor is the Big 10 championship game will be played at the Bears' new stadium at least once, possibly permanently, if their proposal for a new building in the northern suburbs comes to fruition.
 
2021-12-03 10:22:25 PM  

eddievercetti: Hillbilly Jim: WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?

New stadium, they did it for the Niners stadium for the last 5 years and they are going to SoFi next year and it's supposed to rotate for all 3 after


Levi's was not a great site for it, the crowd was always dead.
 
2021-12-03 10:23:12 PM  

eddievercetti: Hillbilly Jim: WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?

New stadium, they did it for the Niners stadium for the last 5 years and they are going to SoFi next year and it's supposed to rotate for all 3 after


Yeah but San Francisco and Los Angeles are in the geographic footprint of the PAC-12.
 
2021-12-03 10:36:23 PM  

Polish Hussar: How the fark did Ohio State lose to these clowns?


Different teams at the time which is irrelevant since you have to win when the game is played, not when you wish it was played.
 
2021-12-03 10:39:12 PM  

Polish Hussar: How the fark did Ohio State lose to these clowns?


How the Fark did Utah lose 3 games?
 
2021-12-03 10:40:52 PM  
So is Utah going to have to kick Oregon's ass a third time before they pass them in the rankings?
 
2021-12-03 10:41:15 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: eddievercetti: Hillbilly Jim: WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?

New stadium, they did it for the Niners stadium for the last 5 years and they are going to SoFi next year and it's supposed to rotate for all 3 after

Yeah but San Francisco and Los Angeles are in the geographic footprint of the PAC-12.


Nevada may not have a team in the Pac-12, but I do think Las Vegas is a reasonable place to hold the championship game.  Las Vegas is a major tourist destination with a great football stadium.  And, yeah, Nevada itself doesn't have a Pac-12 team, but every state that borders it except Idaho does, so it is geographically central in Pac-12 territory.

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2021-12-03 10:42:57 PM  

Polish Hussar: Hillbilly Jim: eddievercetti: Hillbilly Jim: WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?

New stadium, they did it for the Niners stadium for the last 5 years and they are going to SoFi next year and it's supposed to rotate for all 3 after

Yeah but San Francisco and Los Angeles are in the geographic footprint of the PAC-12.

Nevada may not have a team in the Pac-12, but I do think Las Vegas is a reasonable place to hold the championship game.  Las Vegas is a major tourist destination with a great football stadium.  And, yeah, Nevada itself doesn't have a Pac-12 team, but every state that borders it except Idaho does, so it is geographically central in Pac-12 territory.

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I get all that, I'd just think the powers that be would want to keep the money in house so to speak.
 
2021-12-03 10:54:10 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: Polish Hussar: How the fark did Ohio State lose to these clowns?

How the Fark did Utah lose 3 games?


They lost @BYU (now ranked 12) and @SDSU in OT (now ranked 19). Their star RB was killed in a gun accident in the off-season, then another player was murdered a few weeks into the season. Plus, they were starting a different QB, who left the program after getting benched when they went 1-2.

Since switching to Rising, they have only lost one, @Oregon State. Oregon State is (somehow) pretty good, and it was one of those games where everything went wrong.

They're good. Plus they appear to match up well against Oregon. Oregon is a power rushing team, and Utah is very good against that.
 
2021-12-03 11:00:32 PM  
Poor Oregon.  The refs are screwing them over again.  Oregon never loses on its own.  It's always the refs.  Or the sun is in their eyes.  Their mature and reasonable fans tell me so.
 
2021-12-03 11:03:12 PM  
The NFL stadium in Vegas is the Pac-12's jackpot.  Santa Clara was a bust; no one wanted to fly into SFO just to drive clear down to the end of the bay and watch a Friday night game there.  Every year there were articles complaining about attendance.  You want your CCG to look good for TV, having an empty stadium was not a good look.

Vegas, on the other hand?  This is exactly what the conference been waiting for.  they've already staked their championship game's identity on playing on Friday night.  Now, you get people to Fly to Vegas, they take Friday off and fly/drive in Thursday night.  So all the hotels love making money with everyone staying three nights.  You get the game out of the way on Friday, everyone from the kid's uncle to the Geico CEO get to spend Saturday doing whatever the hell they want.  All sorts of money gets thrown around all weekend.  Everyone walks away with something.
 
2021-12-03 11:09:33 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: Polish Hussar: Hillbilly Jim: eddievercetti: Hillbilly Jim: WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?

New stadium, they did it for the Niners stadium for the last 5 years and they are going to SoFi next year and it's supposed to rotate for all 3 after

Yeah but San Francisco and Los Angeles are in the geographic footprint of the PAC-12.

Nevada may not have a team in the Pac-12, but I do think Las Vegas is a reasonable place to hold the championship game.  Las Vegas is a major tourist destination with a great football stadium.  And, yeah, Nevada itself doesn't have a Pac-12 team, but every state that borders it except Idaho does, so it is geographically central in Pac-12 territory.

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I get all that, I'd just think the powers that be would want to keep the money in house so to speak.


Vegas also hosts the Pac-12 basketball tournament and has done so for a couple of years now. It was only natural for them to move the football game there, too.
 
2021-12-03 11:21:38 PM  

French Rage: Poor Oregon.  The refs are screwing them over again.  Oregon never loses on its own.  It's always the refs.  Or the sun is in their eyes.  Their mature and reasonable fans tell me so.


I'm the biggest Oregon homer there is and you are full of shiat.
 
2021-12-03 11:23:49 PM  

Hillbilly Jim: Polish Hussar: Hillbilly Jim: eddievercetti: Hillbilly Jim: WTF is the Pac-12 championship game doing in Nevada?

New stadium, they did it for the Niners stadium for the last 5 years and they are going to SoFi next year and it's supposed to rotate for all 3 after

Yeah but San Francisco and Los Angeles are in the geographic footprint of the PAC-12.

Nevada may not have a team in the Pac-12, but I do think Las Vegas is a reasonable place to hold the championship game.  Las Vegas is a major tourist destination with a great football stadium.  And, yeah, Nevada itself doesn't have a Pac-12 team, but every state that borders it except Idaho does, so it is geographically central in Pac-12 territory.

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I get all that, I'd just think the powers that be would want to keep the money in house so to speak.


Fair point.  Although, does the money kept in house really change that much from NFL stadium to NFL stadium?  Now if you mean wanting to keep the tourist dollars in a state with a conference school, I would be surprised if a conference was concerned with money spent that wasn't directly benefiting them or their member schools.  My recollection when the Big 10 championship game was awarded to Lucas Oil Stadium is that the main reasons for picking it were (1) geographically central in the conference, (2) it was a newer, nice stadium with a dome so you can play prime time in mid-December and not have to worry about the temperatures keeping fans away, (3) ease of access for traveling fans.  I never heard discussion about how great bringing tourist dollars to Indiana would be for the conference.
 
2021-12-03 11:31:47 PM  
UTSA won!

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2021-12-03 11:46:18 PM  

Pincy: French Rage: Poor Oregon.  The refs are screwing them over again.  Oregon never loses on its own.  It's always the refs.  Or the sun is in their eyes.  Their mature and reasonable fans tell me so.

I'm the biggest Oregon homer there is and you are full of shiat.


So you lost to Stanford straight up?
 
2021-12-04 4:21:20 AM  

Dafatone: Hillbilly Jim: Polish Hussar: How the fark did Ohio State lose to these clowns?

How the Fark did Utah lose 3 games?

They lost @BYU (now ranked 12) and @SDSU in OT (now ranked 19). Their star RB was killed in a gun accident in the off-season, then another player was murdered a few weeks into the season. Plus, they were starting a different QB, who left the program after getting benched when they went 1-2.

Since switching to Rising, they have only lost one, @Oregon State. Oregon State is (somehow) pretty good, and it was one of those games where everything went wrong.

They're good. Plus they appear to match up well against Oregon. Oregon is a power rushing team, and Utah is very good against that.


Well, to be fair, I'd say OSU is closer to a power rushing team than Oregon, at least by style. The Ducks still try that zone read crap too often, and it has almost *never* worked against big, or good, rushing defenses. Even back in the Chip Kelly days.

But I don't think I've seen them put on the mat like this, much less twice by the same team in a season.
 
2021-12-04 11:38:07 AM  

puffy999: Dafatone: Hillbilly Jim: Polish Hussar: How the fark did Ohio State lose to these clowns?

How the Fark did Utah lose 3 games?

They lost @BYU (now ranked 12) and @SDSU in OT (now ranked 19). Their star RB was killed in a gun accident in the off-season, then another player was murdered a few weeks into the season. Plus, they were starting a different QB, who left the program after getting benched when they went 1-2.

Since switching to Rising, they have only lost one, @Oregon State. Oregon State is (somehow) pretty good, and it was one of those games where everything went wrong.

They're good. Plus they appear to match up well against Oregon. Oregon is a power rushing team, and Utah is very good against that.

Well, to be fair, I'd say OSU is closer to a power rushing team than Oregon, at least by style. The Ducks still try that zone read crap too often, and it has almost *never* worked against big, or good, rushing defenses. Even back in the Chip Kelly days.

But I don't think I've seen them put on the mat like this, much less twice by the same team in a season.


That's fair. I should have just said rushing, rather than power rushing, for Oregon. Utah's defense is pretty well-rounded, but I think your best bet against them is a strong passing game. Their front four are very good, but not unstoppable, and their secondary has some great players but can be uneven.

The OSU game was just one of those games where everything goes wrong. Utah played well except on third downs, for instance.
 
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