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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Netflix can't poach Disney talent   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line
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2021-12-03 6:41:42 AM  
Weird, in the industries I've worked in they've used different techniques to retain people. Forced servitude wasn't one of them.
 
2021-12-03 6:55:17 AM  
Remember when freedom was a thing.
 
2021-12-03 7:16:28 AM  
TD:DR - Your employer can prevent you from taking a job at a rival company for years due to a noncompete clause.
 
2021-12-03 7:25:57 AM  
How in the world are noncompete clauses still a thing?

I figured all it would take is for one prominent conservative lobbyist to get hit with one when he jumped from one think tank to another, and they would be quickly ruled unconstitutional. That hasn't happened yet?
 
2021-12-03 7:36:26 AM  

clkeagle: How in the world are noncompete clauses still a thing?

I figured all it would take is for one prominent conservative lobbyist to get hit with one when he jumped from one think tank to another, and they would be quickly ruled unconstitutional. That hasn't happened yet?


Not sure why it is in this situation. That being said, they serve a purpose so that a company's product isn't just being sent elsewhere.
 
2021-12-03 7:37:46 AM  
You should see what they did to my salmon!!
 
2021-12-03 7:49:15 AM  
Disney knows how to buy judges and politicians.
 
2021-12-03 8:38:39 AM  

clkeagle: How in the world are noncompete clauses still a thing?

I figured all it would take is for one prominent conservative lobbyist to get hit with one when he jumped from one think tank to another, and they would be quickly ruled unconstitutional. That hasn't happened yet?


They just made a law here in Ontario making non-compete laws non-starters.

/Non
 
2021-12-03 8:39:19 AM  
Thank god.  Now Disney can keep pumping out more Marvel, Star Wars and reboots/remakes of its own decades old franchises until the end of goddamn time.  I was worried for a moment.
 
2021-12-03 9:02:53 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: TD:DR - Your employer can prevent you from taking a job at a rival company for years due to a noncompete clause.


Apparently over 7 years.

I understand how a non-compete that extends a year outside of your term of service to a company, but a DECADE? Apparently that is how long FOX was preventing its executives from working for a competitor. I guess this is how our conservative courts are going to work - marching us all back toward indentured servitude. Does this mean that company scrip is coming back too?
 
2021-12-03 9:20:38 AM  
I don't how this has anything to do with a non-compete clause (which is unenforceable in California).  These were current employees who were enticed to break their contracts with Fox to join Netflix. The enticement and breaking of the contract appears to be the issue vice the specific company the now-former employees joined.
 
2021-12-03 9:41:41 AM  

clkeagle: How in the world are noncompete clauses still a thing?

I figured all it would take is for one prominent conservative lobbyist to get hit with one when he jumped from one think tank to another, and they would be quickly ruled unconstitutional. That hasn't happened yet?


My current employer wanted me to sign a 2 year non-compete clause when I joined the company. At the end of the hiring interview, I said this all sounds great, but I'm reluctant to sign something this important and binding without my lawyer looking over it first. Boss said "Well uh ok, that's fine, do that, but why don't we go ahead and put you on the schedule for a few events so you can work them and see how we do things before you decide?"

Never came up again, been with them for years now.
 
2021-12-03 9:53:16 AM  
I think I just heard Vince McMahon mutter "Why did I say only 90 days?"
 
2021-12-03 10:13:58 AM  

madgonad: Commander Lysdexic: TD:DR - Your employer can prevent you from taking a job at a rival company for years due to a noncompete clause.

Apparently over 7 years.

I understand how a non-compete that extends a year outside of your term of service to a company, but a DECADE? Apparently that is how long FOX was preventing its executives from working for a competitor. I guess this is how our conservative courts are going to work - marching us all back toward indentured servitude. Does this mean that company scrip is coming back too?


They want the Lochner Era again. Government being prohibited from regulations on business. Any regulation at all, from OSHA to child labor to pollution to monopoly to price fixing to apparently slavery.
 
2021-12-03 10:15:43 AM  

dsmith42: They want the Lochner Era again. Government being prohibited from regulations on business. Any regulation at all, from OSHA to child labor to pollution to monopoly to price fixing to apparently slavery.


And the conservative judiciary will help it right along...
 
2021-12-03 10:43:22 AM  
You mean we can't see the same 6 people in every goddamn movie? Darn.
 
2021-12-03 10:47:14 AM  

madgonad: dsmith42: They want the Lochner Era again. Government being prohibited from regulations on business. Any regulation at all, from OSHA to child labor to pollution to monopoly to price fixing to apparently slavery.

And the conservative judiciary will help it right along...


If only someone could save California from decades of conservative rule.
 
2021-12-03 10:55:29 AM  

FLMountainMan: If only someone could save California from decades of conservative rule.


The head presiding judge for the ruling was installed by Brown. Interesting.
 
2021-12-03 11:28:28 AM  

johnny_vegas: I don't how this has anything to do with a non-compete clause (which is unenforceable in California).  These were current employees who were enticed to break their contracts with Fox to join Netflix. The enticement and breaking of the contract appears to be the issue vice the specific company the now-former employees joined.


Yeah, this.  This is about Netflix going to employees that are under contract and enticing them into breaking their contracts.  Now, if the contracts were unconscionable, that would be one thing, but the courts have reviewed them and both the trial court and the court of appeals said that they weren't.

I'm all for employees being able to work for whoever they want, but execs signing legal fixed-length contracts is different from an actor being held hostage by a studio or a maid forced into indentured servitude.
 
2021-12-03 11:36:52 AM  

phyrkrakr: johnny_vegas: I don't how this has anything to do with a non-compete clause (which is unenforceable in California).  These were current employees who were enticed to break their contracts with Fox to join Netflix. The enticement and breaking of the contract appears to be the issue vice the specific company the now-former employees joined.

Yeah, this.  This is about Netflix going to employees that are under contract and enticing them into breaking their contracts.  Now, if the contracts were unconscionable, that would be one thing, but the courts have reviewed them and both the trial court and the court of appeals said that they weren't.

I'm all for employees being able to work for whoever they want, but execs signing legal fixed-length contracts is different from an actor being held hostage by a studio or a maid forced into indentured servitude.


Netflix should've known better since this very well known in the tech world.

Netflix will just have to keep making crap like this till they can hire talent legally https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/3/22815541/netflix-thanksgiving-mom-viral-twitter-thread-feature-film
 
2021-12-03 12:22:48 PM  
The lesson here, folks, is "don't sign a fixed-term contract in a gig economy."

Hell, don't sign any employment contract that isn't terminable at will in a friggin' "at will" employment state.
 
2021-12-03 1:50:24 PM  
"Welcome to Fark" and all that, but these were the 20th Century Fox suits, not Disney (although now they're Disney employees b/c Disney bought out the Fox studio). And they were farking suits, not the actual people who make movies and TV shows, but traditionally the shiat brains who fark up things b/c they're farking terrible.
 
2021-12-03 2:08:13 PM  
If you have a contract with a company and that company is acquired, any contract restrictions should be null as you are no longer dealing with the entity you signed the contract with.

Say people making 30k a year unable to work in market due to non-compete.
 
2021-12-03 2:12:27 PM  

mjbok: If you have a contract with a company and that company is acquired, any contract restrictions should be null as you are no longer dealing with the entity you signed the contract with.

Say people making 30k a year unable to work in market due to non-compete.


Do people who make 30k sign non competes?
Non competes are not a think mostly in California so I really don't know.
 
2021-12-03 2:28:10 PM  

mjbok: If you have a contract with a company and that company is acquired, any contract restrictions should be null as you are no longer dealing with the entity you signed the contract with.

Say people making 30k a year unable to work in market due to non-compete.


If you are making $30,000 a year, especially in California, then you should switch whatever market you're in.  The non-compete clause would be a blessing.
 
2021-12-03 2:43:28 PM  

johnny_vegas: Do people who make 30k sign non competes?
Non competes are not a think mostly in California so I really don't know.


This was in Milwaukee for a news station.  All on air "talent" have to sign non-compete clauses.  At one point a guy got around this buy doing the weather with a bag on his head.  Of course this is the same market that at one point had a cat puppet do the weather.
 
2021-12-03 2:49:39 PM  

mjbok: johnny_vegas: Do people who make 30k sign non competes?
Non competes are not a think mostly in California so I really don't know.

This was in Milwaukee for a news station.  All on air "talent" have to sign non-compete clauses.  At one point a guy got around this buy doing the weather with a bag on his head.  Of course this is the same market that at one point had a cat puppet do the weather.


Man, I laughed at that harder than I should've!!
 
2021-12-03 2:57:05 PM  

johnny_vegas: mjbok: johnny_vegas: Do people who make 30k sign non competes?
Non competes are not a think mostly in California so I really don't know.

This was in Milwaukee for a news station.  All on air "talent" have to sign non-compete clauses.  At one point a guy got around this buy doing the weather with a bag on his head.  Of course this is the same market that at one point had a cat puppet do the weather.

Man, I laughed at that harder than I should've!!


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2021-12-03 4:32:46 PM  

johnny_vegas: mjbok: If you have a contract with a company and that company is acquired, any contract restrictions should be null as you are no longer dealing with the entity you signed the contract with.

Say people making 30k a year unable to work in market due to non-compete.

Do people who make 30k sign non competes?
Non competes are not a think mostly in California so I really don't know.


They're actually not that uncommon for professionals out in BFE.  I know one of the veterinarians out here hired somebody right out of school and made them sign a noncompete so that they wouldn't learn his business then hang out their own shingle and steal all his clients.  The courts tend to disfavor them unless they're pretty limited in scope/range/etc., though.

Again, though, that's not what this was - this was Netflix telling some farkhead suit to leave Fox and come to Netflix while they still had 2 years left on their deal or whatever.  It's different when the employee is still employed, versus being forced out of their industry/location/whatever.
 
2021-12-03 7:24:38 PM  

mjbok: If you have a contract with a company and that company is acquired, any contract restrictions should be null as you are no longer dealing with the entity you signed the contract with.

Say people making 30k a year unable to work in market due to non-compete.


What happens if you signed with Company X, which was owned by Corporation A at the time? If Corp A sells Company X to Corp B how does that change your situation? You're still working at X, which was and is owned by another corporation.
 
2021-12-03 8:56:09 PM  

Birnone: What happens if you signed with Company X, which was owned by Corporation A at the time? If Corp A sells Company X to Corp B how does that change your situation? You're still working at X, which was and is owned by another corporation.


If the company you signed with still exists that is one thing.  If the company you signed with no longer exists that is something completely different.
 
2021-12-04 1:07:12 AM  

mjbok: Birnone: What happens if you signed with Company X, which was owned by Corporation A at the time? If Corp A sells Company X to Corp B how does that change your situation? You're still working at X, which was and is owned by another corporation.

If the company you signed with still exists that is one thing.  If the company you signed with no longer exists that is something completely different.


Fox Studios still exists though as a subsidiary of Disney.
 
2021-12-04 8:53:30 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: TD:DR - Your employer can prevent you from taking a job at a rival company for years due to a noncompete clause.


Dont sign something a contract lawyer hasnt reviewed.

U wont be hired but at least u wont be tricked by a ndc or contract
 
2021-12-04 8:54:58 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: TD:DR - Your employer can prevent you from taking a job at a rival company for years due to a noncompete clause.


And to be fair

Murcan used car salesman capitalists hate competition

Regardless of what they spew abt welcoming it
 
2021-12-04 8:56:18 AM  

clkeagle: How in the world are noncompete clauses still a thing?

I figured all it would take is for one prominent conservative lobbyist to get hit with one when he jumped from one think tank to another, and they would be quickly ruled unconstitutional. That hasn't happened yet?


Constitutions dont apply to big business.

Of by and for big business/wealthy
 
2021-12-04 8:58:14 AM  

UberNeuman: Thank god.  Now Disney can keep pumping out more Marvel, Star Wars and reboots/remakes of its own decades old franchises until the end of goddamn time.  I was worried for a moment.


Disneys business is illusion and buying news networks.

That and feeding its lazy sit at home stock owners off the backs of other peoples labor
 
2021-12-04 8:58:44 AM  

johnny_vegas: I don't how this has anything to do with a non-compete clause (which is unenforceable in California).  These were current employees who were enticed to break their contracts with Fox to join Netflix. The enticement and breaking of the contract appears to be the issue vice the specific company the now-former employees joined.


Land of the Free!!
 
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