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2021-12-03 3:11:31 AM  
I'm sure they're all terrified.
 
2021-12-03 3:12:25 AM  
Fark the right
 
2021-12-03 3:23:24 AM  
I used to think conservatives hated abortion because they hate feminists and women making their own decisions, but that no longer explains their extreme obsession with the issue.

Then I read an economic analysis of US crime rates, which grew steadily through the 1970's and 1980's then fell unexpectedly in the 1990's. The author put it down to the impact of Roe V Wade. Simply, poor families could avoid having more kids than they could afford and manage. The kids who were born were wanted and the kids who weren't didn't grow up to be delinquent anti-social terrors, in oversimplified terms. Crime rates didn't fall because of "innovative policing" or shiat like the Republicans claim, they were falling before those policies were introduced. They were falling 18 years after abortion became widely accessible and safe, that was the causal factor.

The current conservative obsession with getting rid of Roe V Wade and banning abortions in red states is very much about keeping poor people poor, while wealthy women can simply travel to a blue state to terminate a pregnancy. It's also about keeping jails full and a steady stream of slave labour in private prisons. And I don't need to spell out that generations of racial inequality mean that poverty is a much bigger problem for some racial groups than others.

Abortion used to be a feminist issue. Now it's a racial issue.
 
2021-12-03 3:29:54 AM  
She used to be so cute on Little House on the Prairie.
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At least now I know how she got the nickname
"Half Pint"...

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I saw werewolf with a Chinese menu in his hand
Walking through the streets of SoHo in the rain
He was looking for the place called Meng Hongwei...
Ah-hoo, werewolves of London
 
2021-12-03 3:30:09 AM  
Oh, wait, who the hell are you again? Ah, some loudmouth moron from a right wing propaganda channel, with zero integrity or power to influence anything other than your brain dead viewers?

Yeah, we're all shaking in our robes over here. Really. Now piss off, idiot.
 
2021-12-03 3:40:02 AM  
Let the conservatives overturn Roe.

It will cost them their SCOTUS majority, and kill the GQP's chances to take either house of Congress next year.

Just watch.
 
2021-12-03 3:41:14 AM  

Aussie_As: They were falling 18 years after abortion became widely accessible and safe, that was the causal factor.


Even in the years before Roe, when abortion was differently legal on a state-by-state basis, there was already a basis of comparison. As you'd expect, states with legal abortion had fewer children being born into poverty. I wish I could find the study.
 
2021-12-03 3:44:58 AM  

Roastbeast Sammich: Aussie_As: They were falling 18 years after abortion became widely accessible and safe, that was the causal factor.

Even in the years before Roe, when abortion was differently legal on a state-by-state basis, there was already a basis of comparison. As you'd expect, states with legal abortion had fewer children being born into poverty. I wish I could find the study.


Yes, I read this too, good point well made. Specifically the book I read it in was Freakenomics by Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner, but they may well have been citing some other studies on this exact issue.
 
2021-12-03 3:46:12 AM  

bughunter: Let the conservatives overturn Roe.

It will cost them their SCOTUS majority, and kill the GQP's chances to take either house of Congress next year.

Just watch.


Gerrymandering ensures the GQP wins the house unless voting rights passes.

And even if Dems keep control through some miracle, the only way to change the 6-3 conservative court quickly is to expand it, which also ain't happening.

Gilead is here to stay, sadly.
 
2021-12-03 3:49:52 AM  

Gyrfalcon: I'm sure they're all terrified.


I'm sure at least five of them wanna help her.
 
2021-12-03 3:58:07 AM  

bughunter: Let the conservatives overturn Roe.

It will cost them their SCOTUS majority, and kill the GQP's chances to take either house of Congress next year.

Just watch.


Great idea.  Meanwhile you can invest in coat hanger futures.
 
2021-12-03 4:01:08 AM  

Aussie_As: I used to think conservatives hated abortion because they hate feminists and women making their own decisions, but that no longer explains their extreme obsession with the issue.

Then I read an economic analysis of US crime rates, which grew steadily through the 1970's and 1980's then fell unexpectedly in the 1990's. The author put it down to the impact of Roe V Wade. Simply, poor families could avoid having more kids than they could afford and manage. The kids who were born were wanted and the kids who weren't didn't grow up to be delinquent anti-social terrors, in oversimplified terms. Crime rates didn't fall because of "innovative policing" or shiat like the Republicans claim, they were falling before those policies were introduced. They were falling 18 years after abortion became widely accessible and safe, that was the causal factor.

The current conservative obsession with getting rid of Roe V Wade and banning abortions in red states is very much about keeping poor people poor, while wealthy women can simply travel to a blue state to terminate a pregnancy. It's also about keeping jails full and a steady stream of slave labour in private prisons. And I don't need to spell out that generations of racial inequality mean that poverty is a much bigger problem for some racial groups than others.

Abortion used to be a feminist issue. Now it's a racial issue.


It's always been a racist issue. The anti-abortion movement was created to make sure white babies were born.
 
2021-12-03 4:05:19 AM  
So she's not a conservative and sorely in need of a civics lesson.
 
2021-12-03 4:07:09 AM  

hoohoodilly: bughunter: Let the conservatives overturn Roe.

It will cost them their SCOTUS majority, and kill the GQP's chances to take either house of Congress next year.

Just watch.

Gerrymandering ensures the GQP wins the house unless voting rights passes.

And even if Dems keep control through some miracle, the only way to change the 6-3 conservative court quickly is to expand it, which also ain't happening.

Gilead is here to stay, sadly.


Gerrymandering is based on the idea that people will vote the way you expect, so it's not an iron clad guarantee. I would hope young white women get annoyed enough, but the apathy is strong.
 
2021-12-03 4:23:06 AM  
if they over turn it I hope the states that allow it require residency. I am sick of people from Idaho and the Dakotas coming here when their daughters get knocked up. if that is how you want to roll go ape shiat. I don't like the hypocrisy of rich folks in red states coming to blue states for abortions they voted against.
 
2021-12-03 4:24:53 AM  
Lol! I'm sure our corporate overlords are down with this.
 
2021-12-03 4:27:32 AM  

chucknasty: if they over turn it I hope the states that allow it require residency. I am sick of people from Idaho and the Dakotas coming here when their daughters get knocked up. if that is how you want to roll go ape shiat. I don't like the hypocrisy of rich folks in red states coming to blue states for abortions they voted against.


They hypocrisy of the anti-abortion crowd is legendary. There are many stories of doctors at family planning clinics putting up with protestors day in and day out, suddenly recognising the woman who's their patient or the mother of their young patient from the protest crowd.
 
2021-12-03 4:28:00 AM  

Neeek: Aussie_As: I used to think conservatives hated abortion because they hate feminists and women making their own decisions, but that no longer explains their extreme obsession with the issue.

Then I read an economic analysis of US crime rates, which grew steadily through the 1970's and 1980's then fell unexpectedly in the 1990's. The author put it down to the impact of Roe V Wade. Simply, poor families could avoid having more kids than they could afford and manage. The kids who were born were wanted and the kids who weren't didn't grow up to be delinquent anti-social terrors, in oversimplified terms. Crime rates didn't fall because of "innovative policing" or shiat like the Republicans claim, they were falling before those policies were introduced. They were falling 18 years after abortion became widely accessible and safe, that was the causal factor.

The current conservative obsession with getting rid of Roe V Wade and banning abortions in red states is very much about keeping poor people poor, while wealthy women can simply travel to a blue state to terminate a pregnancy. It's also about keeping jails full and a steady stream of slave labour in private prisons. And I don't need to spell out that generations of racial inequality mean that poverty is a much bigger problem for some racial groups than others.

Abortion used to be a feminist issue. Now it's a racial issue.

It's always been a racist issue. The anti-abortion movement was created to make sure white babies were born.


Meanwhile, we've got the anti-abortion movement calling the pro-choice movement tHe rEaL rAcIsTs because they (the anti-abortion movement) like to take Margaret Sanger out of context.
 
2021-12-03 4:48:20 AM  
Threatens them with what? She won't wear her skimpiest Heinrich Himmler thong to Kavanaugh's pool party this spring?
 
2021-12-03 4:54:07 AM  
1. I'm a man, so maybe I don't have a say in this topic. 2. I don't like the idea of abortion. 3. Why isn't this only between a woman & her doctor? 4. Maybe a father should have a say in what happens to his progeny. 5. There are a lot of conflicts already, and I'm gay. 6. Why are so many who hate abortion also against comprehensive Sex. Ed. and free contraception? 7. Why are so many against caring for children after they are born? 8. And it goes on and on. 9. ...

Hubby & I are old, I'm sick with cancers. And so on. We did act in loco parentis for 5 years to his our youngest nephew. It was a good experience. We'd've liked to have two of our own, one of each. But, you get what you get. Nephew calls us every day.

With Family, if you have to, you do. I was the strict one, he was the loving one. Nephew did not get arrested, have an accident, knock up a girl. When he enlisted after graduation, he had no traces of drugs in his system. He's made us and his parents proud. He works hard. He saves money. He's straight. He adopted an older dog in need and cares for her. He helps his niece. We had to raise him 2kmi from his parents but he made sure they knew he understood. He was really nice to my family. He learned to balance and not be a dick. We're proud of him. It was worth investing 5 years to teach him to be a good man.
 
2021-12-03 4:57:53 AM  

janzee: Lol! I'm sure our corporate overlords are down with this.


Elon Musk doesn't give a shiat.
 
2021-12-03 5:02:14 AM  

Aussie_As: Roastbeast Sammich: Aussie_As: They were falling 18 years after abortion became widely accessible and safe, that was the causal factor.

Even in the years before Roe, when abortion was differently legal on a state-by-state basis, there was already a basis of comparison. As you'd expect, states with legal abortion had fewer children being born into poverty. I wish I could find the study.

Yes, I read this too, good point well made. Specifically the book I read it in was Freakenomics by Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner, but they may well have been citing some other studies on this exact issue.


There's been a lotnof study on this issue, it's interesting that we removed lead from gasoline atvthexsanectime, and from children's toys about five-years later
 
2021-12-03 5:10:31 AM  

Aussie_As: I used to think conservatives hated abortion because they hate feminists and women making their own decisions, but that no longer explains their extreme obsession with the issue.

Then I read an economic analysis of US crime rates, which grew steadily through the 1970's and 1980's then fell unexpectedly in the 1990's. The author put it down to the impact of Roe V Wade. Simply, poor families could avoid having more kids than they could afford and manage. The kids who were born were wanted and the kids who weren't didn't grow up to be delinquent anti-social terrors, in oversimplified terms. Crime rates didn't fall because of "innovative policing" or shiat like the Republicans claim, they were falling before those policies were introduced. They were falling 18 years after abortion became widely accessible and safe, that was the causal factor.

The current conservative obsession with getting rid of Roe V Wade and banning abortions in red states is very much about keeping poor people poor, while wealthy women can simply travel to a blue state to terminate a pregnancy. It's also about keeping jails full and a steady stream of slave labour in private prisons. And I don't need to spell out that generations of racial inequality mean that poverty is a much bigger problem for some racial groups than others.

Abortion used to be a feminist issue. Now it's a racial issue.


The abortion hypothesis for the decrease in violent crime since the early 1990s has been refuted. The more likely cause for the decrease is the removal of leaded gasoline in the 70s.

Still, the abortion hypothesis was a contributing factor for the decrease.
 
2021-12-03 5:13:46 AM  
well, if we're rolling back women's rights...

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2021-12-03 5:18:32 AM  
The assholes who want to legislate forced childbirth scream "My body, my choice!" when asked to get vaccinated and wear a mask to fight a deadly pandemic.
 
2021-12-03 5:24:28 AM  
Jayzus, she talks like she has a private army and a secret lair in a dormant volcano.
 
2021-12-03 5:27:53 AM  
Be careful what you wish for, Laura.
 
2021-12-03 5:29:19 AM  

Lorelle: The assholes who want to legislate forced childbirth scream "My body, my choice!" when asked to get vaccinated and wear a mask to fight a deadly pandemic.


And then they wonder why we don't give half a shiat about their sudden concern about bodily autonomy.
 
2021-12-03 5:32:19 AM  

Palined Parenthood: Fark the right


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2021-12-03 5:41:36 AM  
Nobody has ever drawn a line between appallingly high infant mortality rates and extremely restrictive abortion laws, so I will.

There is a reason the states with the least access to abortion have the worst infant mortality, and it's got very little to do with poverty per se.

It's because it is very easy to kill a baby.
 
2021-12-03 5:50:29 AM  

bughunter: Let the conservatives overturn Roe.

It will cost them their SCOTUS majority


HAHAHA...

That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works.
 
2021-12-03 6:06:03 AM  
"The notion that the American people are stuck with a wicked decision just for the sake of tradition goes against everything the country stands for."

It's not tradition, it's precedent. It's what we rely on to measure the consistency and fairness of the justice system. It's supposed to prevent individual agendas from determining the outcome of a particular case based on a whim.

Now, can we break precedent? Sure. We do that when new information is discovered, or a new argument considered... We build on existing knowledge, then build on that knowledge, creating a framework so we don't have to argue every single case from first principles. In fact, it's a lot like the way we use science--oh... yep, I hear it now, nevermind. We're boned.
 
2021-12-03 6:16:13 AM  
I know three women who had abortions while they were undergrads. Two of them are lawyers today and have voted Republican ever since they passed the bar.

Sometimes Republicans feel like humanity's very own colon cancer.
 
2021-12-03 6:16:51 AM  

Lurk Who's Talking: 1. I'm a man, so maybe I don't have a say in this topic. 2. I don't like the idea of abortion. 3. Why isn't this only between a woman & her doctor? 4. Maybe a father should have a say in what happens to his progeny. 5. There are a lot of conflicts already, and I'm gay. 6. Why are so many who hate abortion also against comprehensive Sex. Ed. and free contraception? 7. Why are so many against caring for children after they are born? 8. And it goes on and on. 9. ...

Hubby & I are old, I'm sick with cancers. And so on. We did act in loco parentis for 5 years to his our youngest nephew. It was a good experience. We'd've liked to have two of our own, one of each. But, you get what you get. Nephew calls us every day.

With Family, if you have to, you do. I was the strict one, he was the loving one. Nephew did not get arrested, have an accident, knock up a girl. When he enlisted after graduation, he had no traces of drugs in his system. He's made us and his parents proud. He works hard. He saves money. He's straight. He adopted an older dog in need and cares for her. He helps his niece. We had to raise him 2kmi from his parents but he made sure they knew he understood. He was really nice to my family. He learned to balance and not be a dick. We're proud of him. It was worth investing 5 years to teach him to be a good man.



1: you do, but it's not as valid as that of a person who can get pregnant
2: it's ok to feel like that
3-4: ideally the father's opinion should be involved, but it all comes down to the person hosting the fetus because it is stressful and sometimes harmful to their own health and well-being
5: man idk
6: the right wing hates it when people have sex, unless it's them, because they're different
7: it's extremely difficult, time-consuming, and expensive
 
2021-12-03 6:30:33 AM  
If the only fact that has changed is that there are more Judges who personally oppose abortion then this isn't exactly what I would call a justice system.
 
2021-12-03 6:31:33 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Threatens them with what? She won't wear her skimpiest Heinrich Himmler thong to Kavanaugh's pool party this spring?


Stop.

My penis can only get so erect.
 
2021-12-03 6:32:12 AM  
Fox News employs Nazi Barbie, a white supremacist named Tucker, and the de facto intellectual head of the GQP, who barely graduated from high school.
 
2021-12-03 6:44:29 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Threatens them with what? She won't wear her skimpiest Heinrich Himmler thong to Kavanaugh's pool party this spring?


You know those visual puzzles, "how many smaller squares can you see in this one big square"?

That's how you comment bothers me.  Offensive imagery within offensive imagery.

Bravo
 
2021-12-03 6:51:11 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Threatens them with what? She won't wear her skimpiest Heinrich Himmler thong to Kavanaugh's pool party this spring?


"Threaten" is just one of many words overused here.
 
2021-12-03 6:51:34 AM  
You mean OTHER than the one that the GOP is already waging?
 
2021-12-03 6:59:11 AM  
Oh, and it would also mean adios to The Federalist Society.

She did have one positive point.
 
2021-12-03 7:23:52 AM  
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Seig heil! One of the first things her hero Hitler did was get control of the courts.
 
2021-12-03 7:23:55 AM  
The right claims to care about democracy, so let's let the people decide the important questions presented by gun violence and school shootings.
 
2021-12-03 7:38:40 AM  

notto: The right claims to care about democracy, so let's let the people decide the important questions presented by gun violence and school shootings.


But...60% of Americans actually approve of a modified assault weapons ban.
 
2021-12-03 7:47:08 AM  
Funny, as Laura Ingraham is an incredible argument for abortion.
 
2021-12-03 7:50:51 AM  
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2021-12-03 7:51:37 AM  
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2021-12-03 7:52:34 AM  
Laura Ingram rails against immigrants (she's imported two of her own) she rails against people of color (she bangs them) the woman is a giant bag of dicks and bad plastic surgery
 
2021-12-03 8:04:56 AM  
Coont gonna coont.
 
2021-12-03 8:12:18 AM  
So "Do what we say or we'll make sure you can never do what we say ever again?"   Sounds like a solid threat.
 
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