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2021-12-02 5:53:01 PM  
The end of this century. They always make these predictions when most of us will already be dead so there's no way to prove or disprove anything.
 
2021-12-02 6:14:58 PM  

Mugato: The end of this century. They always make these predictions when most of us will already be dead so there's no way to prove or disprove anything.


LOTS of people will make it to 80+.   Unless the doomsters are right. Then very few, if any, will.
 
2021-12-02 6:28:12 PM  

dionysusaur: Mugato: The end of this century. They always make these predictions when most of us will already be dead so there's no way to prove or disprove anything.

LOTS of people will make it to 80+.   Unless the doomsters are right. Then very few, if any, will.


I didn't say no one alive today will make it to the end of the century. But pretty much everyone reading this horseshiat won't.
 
2021-12-02 6:32:59 PM  
And R2-D2 said "We're domed".
 
2021-12-02 6:42:51 PM  
I'd put my money on a big asteroid. Ever read The Road by Cormac McCarthy? Real cheery stuff.
 
2021-12-02 7:14:02 PM  
Humanity has had ice ages to atomic fallout thrown at it and yet we're still here.
 
2021-12-02 7:18:17 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: Humanity has had ice ages to atomic fallout thrown at it and yet we're still here.


We almost bought it when the Toba supervolcano erupted. Only a few thousand who lived on the equator or nearby survived that.  Most died of starvation when the ash clouds blocked out the sun for years.
 
2021-12-02 7:19:44 PM  
Good. The Earth deserves it.
 
2021-12-02 7:22:40 PM  
Even if most of H. sapians reproduces succeffully, H. sapians will go extinct eventually.  Just as the dinosaurs went extinct, even if their decescendants, the birds didn't.  The more succesful we are the faster we will likely go extinct, as new Homo species arise on mars or in space or on earth 2 as our descendents conlonize the galaxy.

Or we go extinct because of other reasons.  But there is no path, except freezing and cloning where H. sapians continues into the deep future.  And even if H. sapians does live into the deep future with bio printing or cloning or whatever, it will be as zoo animals.
 
2021-12-02 7:27:50 PM  
The Earth needs to rebalance it's equilibrium. We have been poor stewards of this planet.
 
2021-12-02 7:30:27 PM  
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2021-12-02 7:34:02 PM  
Après moi, le déluge.
 
2021-12-02 7:36:39 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Even if most of H. sapians reproduces succeffully, H. sapians will go extinct eventually.  Just as the dinosaurs went extinct, even if their decescendants, the birds didn't.  The more succesful we are the faster we will likely go extinct, as new Homo species arise on mars or in space or on earth 2 as our descendents conlonize the galaxy.

Or we go extinct because of other reasons.  But there is no path, except freezing and cloning where H. sapians continues into the deep future.  And even if H. sapians does live into the deep future with bio printing or cloning or whatever, it will be as zoo animals.


That ain't happening by 2100. We might evolve into something that is not human, but that takes hundreds of centuries.
 
2021-12-02 7:37:35 PM  

Mugato: dionysusaur: Mugato: The end of this century. They always make these predictions when most of us will already be dead so there's no way to prove or disprove anything.

LOTS of people will make it to 80+.   Unless the doomsters are right. Then very few, if any, will.

I didn't say no one alive today will make it to the end of the century. But pretty much everyone reading this horseshiat won't.


Speak for yourself. I plan to live another 80 years (someone has to break that French woman's longevity record).
 
2021-12-02 7:40:50 PM  
One reason why this article is horseshiat: they only have animals as a basis for for comparison. That may be valid someday, but until an animal figures out some basics like technology and art, it's just not all that comparable.
 
2021-12-02 7:42:15 PM  

Olthoi: One reason why this article is horseshiat: they only have animals as a basis for for comparison. That may be valid someday, but until an animal figures out some basics like technology and art, it's just not all that comparable.


During a time of environmental catastrophe or societal collapse, how does art help you find food and shelter?
 
2021-12-02 7:47:52 PM  

EvilEgg: AmbassadorBooze: Even if most of H. sapians reproduces succeffully, H. sapians will go extinct eventually.  Just as the dinosaurs went extinct, even if their decescendants, the birds didn't.  The more succesful we are the faster we will likely go extinct, as new Homo species arise on mars or in space or on earth 2 as our descendents conlonize the galaxy.

Or we go extinct because of other reasons.  But there is no path, except freezing and cloning where H. sapians continues into the deep future.  And even if H. sapians does live into the deep future with bio printing or cloning or whatever, it will be as zoo animals.

That ain't happening by 2100. We might evolve into something that is not human, but that takes hundreds of centuries.


We are doomed, as H. Sapians even if we last past 2100.  Besides as  cloned zoo animals, H. Sapians will go extinct, sooner than later.  Even if we stop using fossil fuels and eliminate carbon from the atmosphere tomorrow.
 
2021-12-02 7:55:39 PM  
Well, that explains why we haven't contacted aliens yet. Every intelligent species kills itself before it advances far enough. I'm guessing pollution and social media are the main factors.
 
2021-12-02 7:56:47 PM  
I'm glad you're here to tell us these things.
 
2021-12-02 8:00:31 PM  

Jake Havechek: Olthoi: One reason why this article is horseshiat: they only have animals as a basis for for comparison. That may be valid someday, but until an animal figures out some basics like technology and art, it's just not all that comparable.

During a time of environmental catastrophe or societal collapse, how does art help you find food and shelter?


Have you ever tried an oil painting? They're delicious.
 
2021-12-02 8:01:32 PM  

Jake Havechek: Olthoi: One reason why this article is horseshiat: they only have animals as a basis for for comparison. That may be valid someday, but until an animal figures out some basics like technology and art, it's just not all that comparable.

During a time of environmental catastrophe or societal collapse, how does art help you find food and shelter?


Art helps you communicate with people of incompatible languages about food, shelter and so forth.
 
2021-12-02 8:03:13 PM  

dionysusaur: Jake Havechek: Olthoi: One reason why this article is horseshiat: they only have animals as a basis for for comparison. That may be valid someday, but until an animal figures out some basics like technology and art, it's just not all that comparable.

During a time of environmental catastrophe or societal collapse, how does art help you find food and shelter?

Art helps you communicate with people of incompatible languages about food, shelter and so forth.


To mesmerize them while you sneak behind them and club them with a rock and then eat the sweet goo in their skulls?
 
2021-12-02 8:04:05 PM  
Don't care. Had sex.
 
2021-12-02 8:08:42 PM  
What a load of crap.

If we detonated every nuke on the planet and then did Mad Max for a couple centuries we still wouldn't go extinct. If we use up every bit of fossil fuels and all of the iron and copper we would still get by as hunters and gatherers.
We are the dominant land mammal. I doubt even a meteor strike on the scale that killed the dinosaurs would get rid of us. We are like cockroaches.
 
2021-12-02 8:08:46 PM  

Olthoi: One reason why this article is horseshiat: they only have animals as a basis for for comparison. That may be valid someday, but until an animal figures out some basics like technology and art, it's just not all that comparable.


There are in fact there are other homo sapien-like species that could be used for comparison, but it turns they are... extinct. (think homo erectus, neanderthal, etc.)
 
2021-12-02 8:11:19 PM  
I was just thinking this the other day.  We are probably reaching the Great Filter as a species.

Either we're going to in some way survive, or we are going to wipe ourselves out within the next century or two.
 
2021-12-02 8:15:40 PM  
There was some idiot here a while ago who said that after a full nuclear exchange between the USA and Russia, people will pop out of their shelters after 2 weeks and immediately start rebuilding
 
2021-12-02 8:17:05 PM  
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2021-12-02 8:20:17 PM  

northernmanor: Olthoi: One reason why this article is horseshiat: they only have animals as a basis for for comparison. That may be valid someday, but until an animal figures out some basics like technology and art, it's just not all that comparable.

There are in fact there are other homo sapien-like species that could be used for comparison, but it turns they are... extinct. (think homo erectus, neanderthal, etc.)


They are gone, but probably only because we killed/farked them out of the existence.
 
2021-12-02 8:22:19 PM  

Jake Havechek: There was some idiot here a while ago who said that after a full nuclear exchange between the USA and Russia, people will pop out of their shelters after 2 weeks and immediately start rebuilding


Could have been me.

Millions would survive from the combatants. Little would change in much of South America and Africa. Asia wouldn't like the radiation and nuclear winter, but they could get through it. Heck, Australia and New Zealand might have a hay day.
It would take decades for North America, Europe, and northern Asia to recover.
Humanity (the US is not the world) would get through it.
Resource collapse combined with advanced climate change expected in the 22nd century will likely be worse.
 
2021-12-02 8:24:26 PM  
Well...I'm waiting!

Lousy stupid reality...Keep waking up alive...No terminators...No alien invasions...Just keeping working lame jobs with other crappy humans.
 
2021-12-02 8:25:47 PM  

Olthoi: One reason why this article is horseshiat: they only have animals as a basis for for comparison. That may be valid someday, but until an animal figures out some basics like technology and art, it's just not all that comparable.


Even among animals you have statistical outliers.

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2021-12-02 8:29:53 PM  

madgonad: Jake Havechek: There was some idiot here a while ago who said that after a full nuclear exchange between the USA and Russia, people will pop out of their shelters after 2 weeks and immediately start rebuilding

Could have been me.

Millions would survive from the combatants. Little would change in much of South America and Africa. Asia wouldn't like the radiation and nuclear winter, but they could get through it. Heck, Australia and New Zealand might have a hay day.
It would take decades for North America, Europe, and northern Asia to recover.
Humanity (the US is not the world) would get through it.
Resource collapse combined with advanced climate change expected in the 22nd century will likely be worse.


Yeah, it might have been you.
 
2021-12-02 8:36:56 PM  

Jake Havechek: madgonad: Jake Havechek: There was some idiot here a while ago who said that after a full nuclear exchange between the USA and Russia, people will pop out of their shelters after 2 weeks and immediately start rebuilding

Could have been me.

Millions would survive from the combatants. Little would change in much of South America and Africa. Asia wouldn't like the radiation and nuclear winter, but they could get through it. Heck, Australia and New Zealand might have a hay day.
It would take decades for North America, Europe, and northern Asia to recover.
Humanity (the US is not the world) would get through it.
Resource collapse combined with advanced climate change expected in the 22nd century will likely be worse.

Yeah, it might have been you.


I certainly never said they would immediately start rebuilding. I would assume nobody would come 'to save us'. We would Mad Max as the survivors fought for whatever resources were available for a long time. Returning to the post industrial age would require help from nations that didn't lose their infrastructure (just very high rates of cancer).
Again, we are like roaches. Only an absolute catastrophe would extinguish us.
 
2021-12-02 9:16:25 PM  

EvilEgg: AmbassadorBooze: Even if most of H. sapians reproduces succeffully, H. sapians will go extinct eventually.  Just as the dinosaurs went extinct, even if their decescendants, the birds didn't.  The more succesful we are the faster we will likely go extinct, as new Homo species arise on mars or in space or on earth 2 as our descendents conlonize the galaxy.

Or we go extinct because of other reasons.  But there is no path, except freezing and cloning where H. sapians continues into the deep future.  And even if H. sapians does live into the deep future with bio printing or cloning or whatever, it will be as zoo animals.

That ain't happening by 2100. We might evolve into something that is not human, but that takes hundreds of centuries.


Or we might simply change ourselves into something we would not recognize as human. Gene Editing of humans is certainly already happening. What it means to be human is going to change a lot very soon.
 
2021-12-02 9:21:51 PM  

ExYank: EvilEgg: AmbassadorBooze: Even if most of H. sapians reproduces succeffully, H. sapians will go extinct eventually.  Just as the dinosaurs went extinct, even if their decescendants, the birds didn't.  The more succesful we are the faster we will likely go extinct, as new Homo species arise on mars or in space or on earth 2 as our descendents conlonize the galaxy.

Or we go extinct because of other reasons.  But there is no path, except freezing and cloning where H. sapians continues into the deep future.  And even if H. sapians does live into the deep future with bio printing or cloning or whatever, it will be as zoo animals.

That ain't happening by 2100. We might evolve into something that is not human, but that takes hundreds of centuries.

Or we might simply change ourselves into something we would not recognize as human. Gene Editing of humans is certainly already happening. What it means to be human is going to change a lot very soon.


real humans need to get a law passed stating only bog standard humans can be called human.  Everything else is humxn.
 
2021-12-02 9:27:41 PM  
This is a test.  Homo sapiens.
 
2021-12-02 9:33:31 PM  
As for the neanderthals, us modern humans took care of that. We mated with some, and killed the rest because we probably wanted their hunting territories.
 
2021-12-02 9:39:14 PM  
 
2021-12-02 9:42:13 PM  

Jake Havechek: Olthoi: One reason why this article is horseshiat: they only have animals as a basis for for comparison. That may be valid someday, but until an animal figures out some basics like technology and art, it's just not all that comparable.

During a time of environmental catastrophe or societal collapse, how does art help you find food and shelter?


Make porn.

Trade for food.
 
2021-12-02 9:45:03 PM  

Jake Havechek: As for the neanderthals, us modern humans took care of that. We mated with some, and killed the rest because we probably wanted their hunting territories.


Or they were tasty.
 
2021-12-02 10:48:55 PM  

madgonad: What a load of crap.

If we detonated every nuke on the planet and then did Mad Max for a couple centuries we still wouldn't go extinct. If we use up every bit of fossil fuels and all of the iron and copper we would still get by as hunters and gatherers.
We are the dominant land mammal. I doubt even a meteor strike on the scale that killed the dinosaurs would get rid of us. We are like cockroaches.


I found Ethan Siegel's angry alt.

/I spray chemtrails
 
2021-12-02 11:19:53 PM  
This piece is what happens when a click bait headline is fed after midnight and turns into an "article."
 
2021-12-02 11:23:00 PM  
The article said nothing about going extinct by 2100. The author said our population will increase until mid century and by 2100 perhaps will be back to current population on the way down. And that doesn't sound so bad at all. The author did not give a timeline for extinction.
 
2021-12-02 11:38:58 PM  

gnosis301: This is a test.  Homo sapiens.


If you fail, no Homo.
 
2021-12-03 12:08:00 AM  
WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING.
 
2021-12-03 12:53:08 AM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: gnosis301: This is a test.  Homo sapiens.

If you fail, no Homo.


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Not gay
 
2021-12-03 1:59:48 AM  

ExYank: EvilEgg: AmbassadorBooze: Even if most of H. sapians reproduces succeffully, H. sapians will go extinct eventually.  Just as the dinosaurs went extinct, even if their decescendants, the birds didn't.  The more succesful we are the faster we will likely go extinct, as new Homo species arise on mars or in space or on earth 2 as our descendents conlonize the galaxy.

Or we go extinct because of other reasons.  But there is no path, except freezing and cloning where H. sapians continues into the deep future.  And even if H. sapians does live into the deep future with bio printing or cloning or whatever, it will be as zoo animals.

That ain't happening by 2100. We might evolve into something that is not human, but that takes hundreds of centuries.

Or we might simply change ourselves into something we would not recognize as human. Gene Editing of humans is certainly already happening. What it means to be human is going to change a lot very soon.


We could breed ourselves half as large.

/but house cats will be more dangerous
 
2021-12-03 3:57:19 AM  
"There comes a time in the progress of any species, even ones that seem to be thriving, when extinction will be inevitable, no matter what they might do to avert it."

this is bullshiat right there. species do not try and avert extinction apart from us they have no concept of it.
 
2021-12-03 6:32:04 AM  
The Futurism link points to a longer write-up, which Fark seemingly won't let me post.  Every time I hit "Add Comment", it does nothing.

Anyway, it's not particularly surprising.  Most of the points the author makes have been consolidated from other studies, with the cumulative result being bad, bad news.
 
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