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2021-12-02 6:47:42 PM  
Tuning up my giant TV, wife is making some Indian food I can eat all piled up in a bowl. Other than feeling terrible from this sinus infection my face wants to have, I'm farking ready.
 
2021-12-02 6:50:42 PM  
I thought it comes out on Fridays. Did I hit another wormhole on the drive home from work tonight?

That would explain why the dogs were so wound up when I got home.
 
2021-12-02 6:51:40 PM  

Lochsteppe: I thought it comes out on Fridays. Did I hit another wormhole on the drive home from work tonight?

That would explain why the dogs were so wound up when I got home.


It's Greenwich time. Which I forgot about for this thread....
 
2021-12-02 7:14:47 PM  

arrogantbastich: Tuning up my giant TV, wife is making some Indian food I can eat all piled up in a bowl. Other than feeling terrible from this sinus infection my face wants to have, I'm farking ready.


Does it look like the Tinker food from episode 3?
 
2021-12-02 7:26:38 PM  

neongoats: arrogantbastich: Tuning up my giant TV, wife is making some Indian food I can eat all piled up in a bowl. Other than feeling terrible from this sinus infection my face wants to have, I'm farking ready.

Does it look like the Tinker food from episode 3?


Cheese quesadillas? No.
 
2021-12-02 7:34:12 PM  

arrogantbastich: neongoats: arrogantbastich: Tuning up my giant TV, wife is making some Indian food I can eat all piled up in a bowl. Other than feeling terrible from this sinus infection my face wants to have, I'm farking ready.

Does it look like the Tinker food from episode 3?

Cheese quesadillas? No.


They had a big old wok looking thing full of a yellow rice looking dish too.
 
2021-12-02 8:44:21 PM  

neongoats: arrogantbastich: neongoats: arrogantbastich: Tuning up my giant TV, wife is making some Indian food I can eat all piled up in a bowl. Other than feeling terrible from this sinus infection my face wants to have, I'm farking ready.

Does it look like the Tinker food from episode 3?

Cheese quesadillas? No.

They had a big old wok looking thing full of a yellow rice looking dish too.


It's Curry, but I know a cheese quesadilla when I see one.
 
2021-12-02 9:06:54 PM  
😭
 
2021-12-02 9:53:47 PM  
Loial is great, even if he is not how I pictured him. To be fair, I pretty much pictured a big eared sasquatch, so that is on me.
 
2021-12-02 10:03:36 PM  
Another good episode.  Glad to see they've got the pacing sorted out these last couple of episodes and are into some good storytelling now.

I'll avoid saying more until most people in the thread have seen it :)
 
2021-12-02 10:46:55 PM  
I think we're seeing some (needed) character consolidations:

Alanna is Alanna + Myrelle.
Valda is Valda + Jaichim Carridan.
Liandrin is Liandrin + Elaida + Alviarin
 
2021-12-02 10:50:06 PM  
So are we just skipping the harem this time? We should have met Min and Elayne by now.
 
2021-12-02 10:52:25 PM  

Koodz: So are we just skipping the harem this time? We should have met Min and Elayne by now.


Min shows up in 2 weeks according to IMDB, Elayne next season
 
2021-12-02 11:27:57 PM  

BorgiaGinz: I think we're seeing some (needed) character consolidations:

Alanna is Alanna + Myrelle.
Valda is Valda + Jaichim Carridan.
Liandrin is Liandrin + Elaida + Alviarin


I think Jaichim is likely to make an appearance. But I think Dain Bornhald and Jaret Byar will probably be merged into Valda.
 
2021-12-02 11:37:39 PM  

kasmel: Myrelle


I think Myrelle will still make an appearance, though. Her and Alanna are on opposite sides of the world during most of the series

Elaida and Alviarin both not being in there would be surprising. I could see one or the other. Alviarin and Liandrin have a LOT in common other than their 'claimed' Ajah.
 
2021-12-02 11:53:22 PM  

kasmel: kasmel: Myrelle

I think Myrelle will still make an appearance, though. Her and Alanna are on opposite sides of the world during most of the series

Elaida and Alviarin both not being in there would be surprising. I could see one or the other. Alviarin and Liandrin have a LOT in common other than their 'claimed' Ajah.


They're trying to make this a workable story in 8 seasons. Characters need to be cut down, and the ones I mentioned do that, especially Liandrin.

There are hints all over. Valda is obviously a darkfriend. Liandrin is going to rise in the White Tower. If Liandrin and Elaida merger, there is no need for Alviarin. And Moiraine was talking to Alanna about a certain subject she talked with Myrelle about.
 
2021-12-03 12:25:19 AM  

BorgiaGinz: kasmel: kasmel: Myrelle

I think Myrelle will still make an appearance, though. Her and Alanna are on opposite sides of the world during most of the series

Elaida and Alviarin both not being in there would be surprising. I could see one or the other. Alviarin and Liandrin have a LOT in common other than their 'claimed' Ajah.

They're trying to make this a workable story in 8 seasons. Characters need to be cut down, and the ones I mentioned do that, especially Liandrin.

There are hints all over. Valda is obviously a darkfriend. Liandrin is going to rise in the White Tower. If Liandrin and Elaida merger, there is no need for Alviarin. And Moiraine was talking to Alanna about a certain subject she talked with Myrelle about.


Sure, I'm not saying there won't be character mergers. I'm speculating that Alviarin might still make sense with the whole White + Red alliance, not to mention their... other common allegiances.

And re: Myrelle... I can see it. The cast decision for Alana sure points that way so I can't discredit it as an idea. I just think that there's roles for both of them. 

I expect that Verin and Cadsuane might get merged as well.

I also expect there to be fewer Forsaken.

Mesanna + Greandal or Moghedian makes sense. So does Bel'al + Sammael + Aginor / Balthamel... Or Sammeal + Rahvin maybe.

Shrug. I think they could excise the entire Bowl / Sea folk subplots and nothing of value would be lost.

I think for story telling purposes Moghedian, Semirhage and Lanfear are pretty vital. Asmodean seems important. The rest, particularly the men, could mostly be a Rahvin'Bel'Samminor mashup considering all the page time they actually get.
 
2021-12-03 1:00:57 AM  
Not bad. Loial was kind of different, but the actor pulled it off well.

The wolf attack was decent. Although I was a bit confused because I thought the wolf with the brown/white/grey that licked Perrin's wounds in episode 2(?) was Dapple. The grey wolf staring at Perrin during the attack is more book accurate for her, though.

Either way, njoy your feast of ma-flesh, puppers :) Those guys deserved it.
 
2021-12-03 1:49:56 AM  

kasmel: BorgiaGinz: kasmel: kasmel: Myrelle

I think Myrelle will still make an appearance, though. Her and Alanna are on opposite sides of the world during most of the series

Elaida and Alviarin both not being in there would be surprising. I could see one or the other. Alviarin and Liandrin have a LOT in common other than their 'claimed' Ajah.

They're trying to make this a workable story in 8 seasons. Characters need to be cut down, and the ones I mentioned do that, especially Liandrin.

There are hints all over. Valda is obviously a darkfriend. Liandrin is going to rise in the White Tower. If Liandrin and Elaida merger, there is no need for Alviarin. And Moiraine was talking to Alanna about a certain subject she talked with Myrelle about.

Sure, I'm not saying there won't be character mergers. I'm speculating that Alviarin might still make sense with the whole White + Red alliance, not to mention their... other common allegiances.

And re: Myrelle... I can see it. The cast decision for Alana sure points that way so I can't discredit it as an idea. I just think that there's roles for both of them. 

I expect that Verin and Cadsuane might get merged as well.

I also expect there to be fewer Forsaken.

Mesanna + Greandal or Moghedian makes sense. So does Bel'al + Sammael + Aginor / Balthamel... Or Sammeal + Rahvin maybe.

Shrug. I think they could excise the entire Bowl / Sea folk subplots and nothing of value would be lost.

I think for story telling purposes Moghedian, Semirhage and Lanfear are pretty vital. Asmodean seems important. The rest, particularly the men, could mostly be a Rahvin'Bel'Samminor mashup considering all the page time they actually get.


I said to my husband during the warder's ....um, warding.... of the Forsaken that someone in the fandom will catalogue all of the statuettes and figure out which ones were represented. I like your theories. Agree 100% about the Bowl plot.

The reason I think they might merge Alviarin with Liandr'eada is that Liandrin is already a powerful figure. You don't need a power behind the throne. Alviarin's purpose was to be that power.
 
2021-12-03 2:40:07 AM  

BorgiaGinz: kasmel: BorgiaGinz: kasmel: kasmel: Myrelle

I think Myrelle will still make an appearance, though. Her and Alanna are on opposite sides of the world during most of the series

Elaida and Alviarin both not being in there would be surprising. I could see one or the other. Alviarin and Liandrin have a LOT in common other than their 'claimed' Ajah.

They're trying to make this a workable story in 8 seasons. Characters need to be cut down, and the ones I mentioned do that, especially Liandrin.

There are hints all over. Valda is obviously a darkfriend. Liandrin is going to rise in the White Tower. If Liandrin and Elaida merger, there is no need for Alviarin. And Moiraine was talking to Alanna about a certain subject she talked with Myrelle about.

Sure, I'm not saying there won't be character mergers. I'm speculating that Alviarin might still make sense with the whole White + Red alliance, not to mention their... other common allegiances.

And re: Myrelle... I can see it. The cast decision for Alana sure points that way so I can't discredit it as an idea. I just think that there's roles for both of them. 

I expect that Verin and Cadsuane might get merged as well.

I also expect there to be fewer Forsaken.

Mesanna + Greandal or Moghedian makes sense. So does Bel'al + Sammael + Aginor / Balthamel... Or Sammeal + Rahvin maybe.

Shrug. I think they could excise the entire Bowl / Sea folk subplots and nothing of value would be lost.

I think for story telling purposes Moghedian, Semirhage and Lanfear are pretty vital. Asmodean seems important. The rest, particularly the men, could mostly be a Rahvin'Bel'Samminor mashup considering all the page time they actually get.

I said to my husband during the warder's ....um, warding.... of the Forsaken that someone in the fandom will catalogue all of the statuettes and figure out which ones were represented. I like your theories. Agree 100% about the Bowl plot.

The reason I think they might merge Alviarin with Liandr'eada is that Liandrin is already a powerful figure. You don't need a power behind the throne. Alviarin's purpose was to be that power.


Another thing I picked up.

Alana mentioned that Suian was coming back to go after folks for gentling Logain.

But that makes no sense in the timeline...

That was the scandal the little tower used as protest against Elaida waaay later. Unless they're just going to do the whole white tower schism out of the gate
 
2021-12-03 4:09:51 AM  
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I liked this episode. Looks like Rand finally made it to Tar Valon after 30 years...

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2021-12-03 5:52:47 AM  

kasmel: Another thing I picked up.

Alana mentioned that Suian was coming back to go after folks for gentling Logain.

But that makes no sense in the timeline...

That was the scandal the little tower used as protest against Elaida waaay later. Unless they're just going to do the whole white tower schism out of the gate


Do we know how many seasons the showrunners want/expect?  Because I was remembering that from being quite a bit later as well, and was surprised to see it looking like it's coming soon.  Maybe they're trying to get as much story as they can in just a few seasons?
 
2021-12-03 9:41:57 AM  

kasmel: schism


It's going to happen, but probably not in the way we expect. The next episode should be revealing. Suian is one of my favorite characters
 
2021-12-03 9:55:01 AM  

OldRod: kasmel: Another thing I picked up.

Alana mentioned that Suian was coming back to go after folks for gentling Logain.

But that makes no sense in the timeline...

That was the scandal the little tower used as protest against Elaida waaay later. Unless they're just going to do the whole white tower schism out of the gate

Do we know how many seasons the showrunners want/expect?  Because I was remembering that from being quite a bit later as well, and was surprised to see it looking like it's coming soon.  Maybe they're trying to get as much story as they can in just a few seasons?


As far as I've heard it's supposed to be 6 seasons. At 8 episodes a season that's not enough to tell even half the full story. They're barn burning this thing. Which isn't a surprise, just... I may have made different choices of what to cut.

We'll see, I'm doing my best to be open-minded. I've enjoyed watching it so far, even for all the critical feedback I may offer.
 
2021-12-03 10:16:45 AM  

kasmel: OldRod: kasmel: Another thing I picked up.

Alana mentioned that Suian was coming back to go after folks for gentling Logain.

But that makes no sense in the timeline...

That was the scandal the little tower used as protest against Elaida waaay later. Unless they're just going to do the whole white tower schism out of the gate

Do we know how many seasons the showrunners want/expect?  Because I was remembering that from being quite a bit later as well, and was surprised to see it looking like it's coming soon.  Maybe they're trying to get as much story as they can in just a few seasons?

As far as I've heard it's supposed to be 6 seasons. At 8 episodes a season that's not enough to tell even half the full story. They're barn burning this thing. Which isn't a surprise, just... I may have made different choices of what to cut.

We'll see, I'm doing my best to be open-minded. I've enjoyed watching it so far, even for all the critical feedback I may offer.


I read 8 seasons.

https://www.thewrap.com/the-wheel-of-time-eight-season-plan-showrunner-tv-series-adapted-books/
 
2021-12-03 12:00:08 PM  

dsmith42: kasmel: OldRod: kasmel: Another thing I picked up.

Alana mentioned that Suian was coming back to go after folks for gentling Logain.

But that makes no sense in the timeline...

That was the scandal the little tower used as protest against Elaida waaay later. Unless they're just going to do the whole white tower schism out of the gate

Do we know how many seasons the showrunners want/expect?  Because I was remembering that from being quite a bit later as well, and was surprised to see it looking like it's coming soon.  Maybe they're trying to get as much story as they can in just a few seasons?

As far as I've heard it's supposed to be 6 seasons. At 8 episodes a season that's not enough to tell even half the full story. They're barn burning this thing. Which isn't a surprise, just... I may have made different choices of what to cut.

We'll see, I'm doing my best to be open-minded. I've enjoyed watching it so far, even for all the critical feedback I may offer.

I read 8 seasons.

https://www.thewrap.com/the-wheel-of-time-eight-season-plan-showrunner-tv-series-adapted-books/


OK, if they're going 8 seasons, then they need to pace themselves :)

I know there are 14 books, but there are huge parts of some books that can be cut out without impacting the story at all
 
2021-12-03 1:04:31 PM  

OldRod: dsmith42: kasmel: OldRod: kasmel: Another thing I picked up.

Alana mentioned that Suian was coming back to go after folks for gentling Logain.

But that makes no sense in the timeline...

That was the scandal the little tower used as protest against Elaida waaay later. Unless they're just going to do the whole white tower schism out of the gate

Do we know how many seasons the showrunners want/expect?  Because I was remembering that from being quite a bit later as well, and was surprised to see it looking like it's coming soon.  Maybe they're trying to get as much story as they can in just a few seasons?

As far as I've heard it's supposed to be 6 seasons. At 8 episodes a season that's not enough to tell even half the full story. They're barn burning this thing. Which isn't a surprise, just... I may have made different choices of what to cut.

We'll see, I'm doing my best to be open-minded. I've enjoyed watching it so far, even for all the critical feedback I may offer.

I read 8 seasons.

https://www.thewrap.com/the-wheel-of-time-eight-season-plan-showrunner-tv-series-adapted-books/

OK, if they're going 8 seasons, then they need to pace themselves :)

I know there are 14 books, but there are huge parts of some books that can be cut out without impacting the story at all


You can cut out entire books without impacting the story at all.  I'm looking at you CoT.
 
2021-12-03 1:53:36 PM  

Lochsteppe: I thought it comes out on Fridays. Did I hit another wormhole on the drive home from work tonight?

That would explain why the dogs were so wound up when I got home.


I thought it was supposed to come out Friday evenings, but I watched this episode at 3am EST.
 
2021-12-03 1:56:53 PM  

Jgok: Lochsteppe: I thought it comes out on Fridays. Did I hit another wormhole on the drive home from work tonight?

That would explain why the dogs were so wound up when I got home.

I thought it was supposed to come out Friday evenings, but I watched this episode at 3am EST.


Apparently it's midnight GMT
 
2021-12-03 3:44:43 PM  

raukos7: Jgok: Lochsteppe: I thought it comes out on Fridays. Did I hit another wormhole on the drive home from work tonight?

That would explain why the dogs were so wound up when I got home.

I thought it was supposed to come out Friday evenings, but I watched this episode at 3am EST.

Apparently it's midnight GMT


I was able to watch it a little after 7:00 Central time last night
 
2021-12-03 5:00:14 PM  
I think we got an actual Nynaeve braid tug last night... if I remember right, it's during one of the funerals. I missed it the first time, but caught it in one of recap shows on YouTube
 
2021-12-03 5:46:15 PM  
I am not familiar with the books other than some of the broad strokes, but I've enjoyed the series so far. To me, that's a good sign.

At the moment, my main question is somewhere between "what's the problem with these white cloak guys?" (which was answered a bit in this last episode - magic is evil and therefore anyone who uses it, even if for good, is evil) and also "why haven't the Assadai totally wrecked their shiat?"

/I'm sure this'll all come out as the story progresses
//Never got into the Wheel of Time books. I worked in a bookstore back when this was kinda the pre-Game of Thrones "is this guy gonna finish the series before he kicks off"
 
2021-12-03 5:51:46 PM  

robertus: I am not familiar with the books other than some of the broad strokes, but I've enjoyed the series so far. To me, that's a good sign.

At the moment, my main question is somewhere between "what's the problem with these white cloak guys?" (which was answered a bit in this last episode - magic is evil and therefore anyone who uses it, even if for good, is evil) and also "why haven't the Assadai totally wrecked their shiat?"

/I'm sure this'll all come out as the story progresses
//Never got into the Wheel of Time books. I worked in a bookstore back when this was kinda the pre-Game of Thrones "is this guy gonna finish the series before he kicks off"


The Children of the Light (aka Whitecloaks) are a political force unto themselves, basically running a country called Amadicia.  Declaring war on them would be politically difficult, plus the Aes Sedai cannot harm a person, except in defense of their life (or their Warders).
 
2021-12-03 7:59:48 PM  
WTF did they do to Loial!?!?!
 
2021-12-03 11:18:44 PM  

nyneave: WTF did they do to Loial!?!?!


Made him into something at least minimally acceptable and budget accessible?
 
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