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2021-12-02 12:33:22 PM  
They seem to have reigned in Tony a lot. I liked it better when he would tell us what the play was going to be as the teams lined up. "The guy in the slot will be open over the middle." Great.
 
2021-12-02 12:44:32 PM  
I'll pay him $5 to never speak again.

I mute it when he talks. He annoys the sh*t out of me.
 
2021-12-02 12:51:59 PM  

bingethinker: They seem to have reigned in Tony a lot. I liked it better when he would tell us what the play was going to be as the teams lined up. "The guy in the slot will be open over the middle." Great.


Yeah he's dialled back the truth and honesty a little bit. And bought much more into the pushing the narratives and storylines that are expected.

He's still the best commentator, but that's damning with faint praise
 
2021-12-02 12:53:16 PM  
Do the tv networks think that we turn on games to watch the commentary team?

I mean if they want to pay him that much, more power to him. But he's objectively bad at his job and SNF would get the same ratings with almost anyone else

/Booger would make ratings drop
 
2021-12-02 1:51:48 PM  
I would recommend signing shorter TV contracts to better keep pace with inflationary forces in the market today.
 
2021-12-02 3:10:42 PM  
Here's a guy who must have compromising photos of NBC bigwigs!
 
2021-12-02 3:11:33 PM  
I thought this article was going to be about Drew Brees, and I was prepared to begrudgingly disagree.
 
2021-12-02 3:32:49 PM  

Gubbo: Do the tv networks think that we turn on games to watch the commentary team?

I mean if they want to pay him that much, more power to him. But he's objectively bad at his job and SNF would get the same ratings with almost anyone else

/Booger would make ratings drop


I dunno, I really like the commentators that are quality (Al Michaels, Kevin Harlan, Mike Breen) and find the shiatty ones distracting and annoying (Joe Buck). Collingsworth I guess checks neither box for me though, he's just a goofy drunk.
 
2021-12-02 3:36:43 PM  
Romo is the best analyst and it's not even open for debate. Also, Kevin Harlan is the best play-by-play, IMO.

Aikman and Buck deserve each other...both are insufferable. Romo parades his biases as if he's proud of them.
 
2021-12-02 3:37:25 PM  
They are building to Al Micheals retiring soon. Maybe after this season since NBC got the Bowl and they are making him and Mike Tirico the next guys.
 
2021-12-02 3:44:09 PM  

eddievercetti: They are building to Al Micheals retiring soon. Maybe after this season since NBC got the Bowl and they are making him and Mike Tirico the next guys.


Gee, you would think something like that would be in TFA....oh wait.

FTFA:

After years together in the NBC booth, this could be the final year of the longtime partnership between Cris Collinsworth and play-by-play announcer Al Michaels. Per Marchand, NBC's plan is for Mike Tirico to replace Michaels as the full-time Sunday Night Football play-by-play man in 2022.
 
2021-12-02 3:46:33 PM  
No clutch Fourth Quarter interceptions?
 
2021-12-02 3:56:27 PM  
$180 million deal signed by Tony Romo back in 2020.

Seriously? I thought those guys were way more fungible than that.
 
2021-12-02 4:02:40 PM  

Gubbo: Do the tv networks think that we turn on games to watch the commentary team?

I mean if they want to pay him that much, more power to him. But he's objectively bad at his job and SNF would get the same ratings with almost anyone else

/Booger would make ratings drop


Manning brothers.  I'll tune in for them.  Nobody else.
 
2021-12-02 4:04:24 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'll pay him $5 to never speak again.

I mute it when he talks. He annoys the sh*t out of me.


We found Troy Aikman's Fark account.
 
2021-12-02 4:05:49 PM  
Do you Farkers who think Tony Romo is the greatest miss the 20 to 30 times a game he says something so cringe-worthy and stupid that Jim Nantz doesn't know how to respond? Because I mute those awkward moments more than anything Collinsworth says during a game.
 
2021-12-02 4:08:26 PM  

ToastmasterGeneral: Gubbo: Do the tv networks think that we turn on games to watch the commentary team?

I mean if they want to pay him that much, more power to him. But he's objectively bad at his job and SNF would get the same ratings with almost anyone else

/Booger would make ratings drop

Manning brothers.  I'll tune in for them.  Nobody else.


It's just as well they have guests and make fun of each other. Because it might be just me, but the Sunday night games they've gotten have been pretty bad football contests
 
2021-12-02 4:35:00 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: Do you Farkers who think Tony Romo is the greatest miss the 20 to 30 times a game he says something so cringe-worthy and stupid that Jim Nantz doesn't know how to respond? Because I mute those awkward moments more than anything Collinsworth says during a game.


Thank you!  I keep thinking he's that guy someone brings over to your Super Bowl party, they tell you he's cool and knows his stuff, then proceeds to not shut the hell up for the next 5 hours
 
2021-12-02 4:48:38 PM  
NBC?, decades ago, broadcasted one game with no announcers. It was underwhelming. With mics all over the field now, it would be interesting to try it again.
The only problem would be all the cussing.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-02 4:51:27 PM  

MarkTimeTire: NBC?, decades ago, broadcasted one game with no announcers. It was underwhelming. With mics all over the field now, it would be interesting to try it again.
The only problem would be all the cussing.


Can't remember if it was the afternoon game or the SNF game this past Sunday, but there were some audio issues for the first minute or two of gameplay where the announcers just weren't there, but stadium/field audio was. It was very...I dunno, not good.
 
2021-12-02 4:53:01 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I'll pay him $5 to never speak again.

I mute it when he talks. He annoys the sh*t out of me.


He's got the ability to piss off fans of both teams.  Smugly punching down, and bringing his own whiney spin, that he'll carry through the whole game.
 
2021-12-02 4:53:02 PM  

Hendawg: REO-Weedwagon: Do you Farkers who think Tony Romo is the greatest miss the 20 to 30 times a game he says something so cringe-worthy and stupid that Jim Nantz doesn't know how to respond? Because I mute those awkward moments more than anything Collinsworth says during a game.

Thank you!  I keep thinking he's that guy someone brings over to your Super Bowl party, they tell you he's cool and knows his stuff, then proceeds to not shut the hell up for the next 5 hours


I thought I was the only one who thinks Romo is terrible.

You have a microphone. You don't need to shout at the top of your voice, dude.

Especially not on 2nd and 20 down by 21 with 3:00 left in the 4th quarter.
 
2021-12-02 5:06:18 PM  
I think a lot of the shiat the color commentators get is the way they are produced/directed. I used to really like Collinsworth on Inside the NFL. And as noted above, Romo has reigned in what we all loved about his analysis.
 
2021-12-02 5:41:40 PM  
There are guys I like who know what they are talking about.   The next tier down is guys who usually know what they are talking about and I can't stand their announcing, but will listen anyway.   That's the Romo/Aikman tier.   Then there's the guys with great announcing voices who have no clue, and are easy to listen to so long as their aren't the play-by-play guy.

Then there's the Collinsworth/Buck tier.   Just no.   But even those guys are yards better than Cosell was.
 
2021-12-02 5:45:56 PM  

Stud Gerbil: But even those guys are yards better than Cosell was.


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2021-12-02 5:47:48 PM  

Stud Gerbil: There are guys I like who know what they are talking about.   The next tier down is guys who usually know what they are talking about and I can't stand their announcing, but will listen anyway.   That's the Romo/Aikman tier.   Then there's the guys with great announcing voices who have no clue, and are easy to listen to so long as their aren't the play-by-play guy.

Then there's the Collinsworth/Buck tier.   Just no.   But even those guys are yards better than Cosell was.


Aikman is trash and frankly I question the judgment of anyone who thinks the "Romo/Aikman tier" is a thing. Collinsworth >>>> Aikman. I'd rather have Mark Schlereth than Aikman, and I don't think Schlereth is good either.

Aikman just agrees with Buck 100% of the time, so if you don't like Buck then I can't see what you would find positive in Aikman.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-02 5:50:02 PM  

Stud Gerbil: There are guys I like who know what they are talking about.   The next tier down is guys who usually know what they are talking about and I can't stand their announcing, but will listen anyway.   That's the Romo/Aikman tier.   Then there's the guys with great announcing voices who have no clue, and are easy to listen to so long as their aren't the play-by-play guy.

Then there's the Collinsworth/Buck tier.   Just no.   But even those guys are yards better than Cosell was.


I feel the same way, though our opinions differ somewhat on the people. Recently been watching more pistons games than usual, and George blahas voice is just grating to me, but he's generally good. Also never cared for Dickie v, only because his voice. But after seeing him calling his first game the other day after his cancer announcement and how how emotional he was, I kinda switched gears. I watched most of the Michigan game that Dickie called last night and was just fine with it.

I really don't think I'll ever change my mind about Doris Burke though, goddamn her voice is nails on a chalkboard to me, and she knows her shiat for the most part.
 
2021-12-02 6:01:54 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: Do you Farkers who think Tony Romo is the greatest miss the 20 to 30 times a game he says something so cringe-worthy and stupid that Jim Nantz doesn't know how to respond? Because I mute those awkward moments more than anything Collinsworth says during a game.


I was less than impressed with how hard Romo worked a couple of weeks ago to repair Aaron Rodgers' image. going on and on, impassioned rant about "all that Rodgers was having to overcome" and "how great it must feel to hear the love from these Packer fans"  Come on, Tony. that's the kind of stuff I'd expect from Shoepisser and Aikman


Super Chronic: Stud Gerbil: There are guys I like who know what they are talking about.   The next tier down is guys who usually know what they are talking about and I can't stand their announcing, but will listen anyway.   That's the Romo/Aikman tier.   Then there's the guys with great announcing voices who have no clue, and are easy to listen to so long as their aren't the play-by-play guy.

Then there's the Collinsworth/Buck tier.   Just no.   But even those guys are yards better than Cosell was.

Aikman is trash and frankly I question the judgment of anyone who thinks the "Romo/Aikman tier" is a thing. Collinsworth >>>> Aikman. I'd rather have Mark Schlereth than Aikman, and I don't think Schlereth is good either.

Aikman just agrees with Buck 100% of the time, so if you don't like Buck then I can't see what you would find positive in Aikman.


I find Schlereth kinda uneven. I've heard him do games where he's excellent. Other times, he sucks.
 
2021-12-02 6:05:16 PM  

BrianGriffin: Romo is the best analyst and it's not even open for debate. Also, Kevin Harlan is the best play-by-play, IMO.

Aikman and Buck deserve each other...both are insufferable. Romo parades his biases as if he's proud of them.


Dear god...I meant AIKMAN, not Romo...and I wasn't even drunk when I posted the original of this!
 
2021-12-02 6:10:19 PM  

151: Stud Gerbil: There are guys I like who know what they are talking about.   The next tier down is guys who usually know what they are talking about and I can't stand their announcing, but will listen anyway.   That's the Romo/Aikman tier.   Then there's the guys with great announcing voices who have no clue, and are easy to listen to so long as their aren't the play-by-play guy.

Then there's the Collinsworth/Buck tier.   Just no.   But even those guys are yards better than Cosell was.

I feel the same way, though our opinions differ somewhat on the people. Recently been watching more pistons games than usual, and George blahas voice is just grating to me, but he's generally good. Also never cared for Dickie v, only because his voice. But after seeing him calling his first game the other day after his cancer announcement and how how emotional he was, I kinda switched gears. I watched most of the Michigan game that Dickie called last night and was just fine with it.

I really don't think I'll ever change my mind about Doris Burke though, goddamn her voice is nails on a chalkboard to me, and she knows her shiat for the most part.


Ever watch anything Beth Mowins has called? I think they used her for some games early this year. She does well, but her voice is hard to take.
 
2021-12-02 6:11:04 PM  

Gubbo: Do the tv networks think that we turn on games to watch the commentary team?

I mean if they want to pay him that much, more power to him. But he's objectively bad at his job and SNF would get the same ratings with almost anyone else

/Booger would make ratings drop


Yes, good commentary teams immensely improve the watching experience and improve ratings.  To give an example, NFL Network had bryant gumbel for a season.  He was ungodly HORRIFIC (he was constantly completely lost, referred to people by the wrong name dozens of times a game, he wasn't engaging at all, etc.  He may be amazing at his documentary-style show, but commentary... no.).  If you don't remember his games, try and find an old game he did.  You'll want to stab your ears out.  All the commentators doing NBC/FOX/CBS football games are quite good at their jobs.

Some, like Collinsworth, Al Michaels, Tony Romo, and yes, even Joe Buck are amazing at their jobs.  Objectively amazing.  That job is probably more difficult than playing football.  I dare ANYONE to try commentary... say the local high school football or soccer team, for example... it is insanely hard.  Play by play is a bit easier, but to be able to analyze a complex sport on the fly, use terminology that everyone can understand, and do all of this while spotters are yelling at you in the booth and producers are directing you through an ear piece (and if you need to analyze a replay, you're telling THEM what to give you) is just insane.  They are all in the top 0.1% of their profession.

Not to mention that despite only one game a week, it's basically a full time job because of all the prep work you need to do.   You need to watch previous couple weeks games that the teams playing had so you can refer to things they did recently.  You need to know all the players backgrounds and colleges and stats and injuries and compile it all in a way that makes sense and somehow never make a mistake (interns and producers help, yes).

/Drew Brees tried doing Chris' job at thanksgiving.  He wasn't bad but it's clear that he's not in the same league.  At least yet, he's very new at this.
//If a commentator makes the occasional mistake... it's likely not his fault, but can be.  Spotters and producers are reacting insanely fast on the fly too and they can sometimes relay bad information.
 
2021-12-02 6:13:03 PM  

151: MarkTimeTire: NBC?, decades ago, broadcasted one game with no announcers. It was underwhelming. With mics all over the field now, it would be interesting to try it again.
The only problem would be all the cussing.

Can't remember if it was the afternoon game or the SNF game this past Sunday, but there were some audio issues for the first minute or two of gameplay where the announcers just weren't there, but stadium/field audio was. It was very...I dunno, not good.


Wrong. That is the best. TV broadcasters ruin the game. They could learn a lot from radio broadcasters. A good start would be to stop obsessing about what happened 5 plays ago, stop going to the reporter on the field with some human interest babble, and STFU once in a while to leave some space for people to think and listen to the sounds of the game.
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-02 6:14:20 PM  

knbwhite: 151: Stud Gerbil: There are guys I like who know what they are talking about.   The next tier down is guys who usually know what they are talking about and I can't stand their announcing, but will listen anyway.   That's the Romo/Aikman tier.   Then there's the guys with great announcing voices who have no clue, and are easy to listen to so long as their aren't the play-by-play guy.

Then there's the Collinsworth/Buck tier.   Just no.   But even those guys are yards better than Cosell was.

I feel the same way, though our opinions differ somewhat on the people. Recently been watching more pistons games than usual, and George blahas voice is just grating to me, but he's generally good. Also never cared for Dickie v, only because his voice. But after seeing him calling his first game the other day after his cancer announcement and how how emotional he was, I kinda switched gears. I watched most of the Michigan game that Dickie called last night and was just fine with it.

I really don't think I'll ever change my mind about Doris Burke though, goddamn her voice is nails on a chalkboard to me, and she knows her shiat for the most part.

Ever watch anything Beth Mowins has called? I think they used her for some games early this year. She does well, but her voice is hard to take.


I probably have, but don't recognize the name. Googled her and it seems she does college football games for espn, but I can't be sure I ever heard her/had an opinion
 
151 [OhFark]
2021-12-02 6:15:08 PM  

duckpoopy: 151: MarkTimeTire: NBC?, decades ago, broadcasted one game with no announcers. It was underwhelming. With mics all over the field now, it would be interesting to try it again.
The only problem would be all the cussing.

Can't remember if it was the afternoon game or the SNF game this past Sunday, but there were some audio issues for the first minute or two of gameplay where the announcers just weren't there, but stadium/field audio was. It was very...I dunno, not good.

Wrong. That is the best. TV broadcasters ruin the game. They could learn a lot from radio broadcasters. A good start would be to stop obsessing about what happened 5 plays ago, stop going to the reporter on the field with some human interest babble, and STFU once in a while to leave some space for people to think and listen to the sounds of the game.


No
 
2021-12-02 6:37:10 PM  
They already signed his kid, and there are too many people on that Sunday night pregame show.  I'd love to see Michaels paired up with Romo.  Too bad we get Tirico almost as often as Michaels.

It's one farking game, Sunday NFL Countdown on ESPN doesn't have this many people and they preview ALL the games.

SNF cast:
Jac Collinsworth
Chris Simms
Rodney Harrison
Tony Dungey
Drew Brees
Mike Tirico
Mike Florio
Maria Taylor (get rid of her and I stop watching)


SNF game team
Chris Collinsworth
Al Michaels
Michelle Tafoya
 
2021-12-02 9:29:08 PM  

REO-Weedwagon: Do you Farkers who think Tony Romo is the greatest miss the 20 to 30 times a game he says something so cringe-worthy and stupid that Jim Nantz doesn't know how to respond? Because I mute those awkward moments more than anything Collinsworth says during a game.


This.  I watched the Seahawks - Packers game that he called and I'm not sure he knew the name of a single player on the field.  All game long it was, "and number 54 made the tackle there for the Seahawks" and "it looks like number 12 is under center taking snaps for the Packers this week."

Not to mention that he would make a comment about a play, then Gene Steratore would come on and explain the ruling, at which point Romo would do a complete 180 on his previous statement. I don't know if he was just completely unprepared for the game, but it was some of the worst announcing I've seen in a while.
 
2021-12-02 10:25:17 PM  
I do color commentary for a local high school on the local TV station, and it's not that easy. I'm sure I'm horrible compared to a professional, but there's a million things going on at once even at that level.
 
2021-12-02 11:10:44 PM  
The color commentators are asked to fill 80% of the dead air between plays for 3+ hours. It's surprising they don't sound even more idiotic with how much they have to pad even the most boring, routine plays with insight.

Even the "King" of color, John Madden sounded like a hack most of the time, but he made it his schtick.

I do miss the prophecy of the rookie Romo though. It was cool to see the game through a QB's eyes.

Collingworth sucks.
 
2021-12-03 12:36:46 PM  

BrianGriffin: Romo is the best analyst and it's not even open for debate. Also, Kevin Harlan is the best play-by-play, IMO.

Aikman and Buck deserve each other...both are insufferable. Romo parades his biases as if he's proud of them.


Serious question: Why didn't ESPN make an all-in push to make Kevin Harlan the lead voice on MNF, unless his contract with TNT is the sticking point?
 
2021-12-03 12:39:03 PM  

Ker_Thwap: NewportBarGuy: I'll pay him $5 to never speak again.

I mute it when he talks. He annoys the sh*t out of me.

He's got the ability to piss off fans of both teams.  Smugly punching down, and bringing his own whiney spin, that he'll carry through the whole game.


Gimme that instead of some color commentator relentlessly kissing the asses of both teams.  Fark that shiat; now I know why Cosell was so hated (and why I liked him).
 
2021-12-03 2:16:02 PM  

Rwa2play: BrianGriffin: Romo is the best analyst and it's not even open for debate. Also, Kevin Harlan is the best play-by-play, IMO.

Aikman and Buck deserve each other...both are insufferable. Romo parades his biases as if he's proud of them.

Serious question: Why didn't ESPN make an all-in push to make Kevin Harlan the lead voice on MNF, unless his contract with TNT is the sticking point?


Might be, he's definitely considered the top NBA commentator, he's the voice of the league now that Marv Albert is gone. Him and Breen.
 
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