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2021-12-02 12:06:19 PM  
Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.
 
2021-12-02 12:12:57 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.


Yes, I think the raised eyebrows are the cost, not the term pilot.
 
2021-12-02 12:15:05 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.


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Get outa here with your "logic" and "reason". It has no place here.
 
2021-12-02 12:20:49 PM  
What, you mean "Saw: the fantasy epic" is kind of stale shiat now, no matter how many former porn actors you cast? You don't say.
 
2021-12-02 12:27:18 PM  
Three tomatoes are walking down the street -- a poppa tomato, a momma tomato, and a little baby tomato. Baby tomato starts lagging behind. Poppa tomato gets angry, goes over to the baby tomato, and squishes him... and says, 'Catch up.'
 
2021-12-02 12:43:29 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.


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2021-12-02 12:52:40 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.


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2021-12-02 1:01:58 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.


Thank you so much for explaining the headline, now I get it.
 
2021-12-02 1:15:06 PM  

The Crepes of Wrath: UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.

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/for those who missed the pulp fiction pop culture reference


Lol WOOSH
I should have caught that one
 
2021-12-02 1:39:43 PM  

The Crepes of Wrath: UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.

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/for those who missed the pulp fiction pop culture reference


What did he do, memorize the whole farking movie? I'm embarrassed for both of you
 
2021-12-02 1:46:57 PM  

moothemagiccow: The Crepes of Wrath: UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.

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/for those who missed the pulp fiction pop culture reference

What did he do, memorize the whole farking movie? I'm embarrassed for both of you


I'm guessing that, because we're on the internet, he probably looked up the movie quote using Google.

So simple, anyone but a Texan could figure it out.
 
2021-12-02 2:10:24 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.


Want a milkshake?
 
2021-12-02 2:17:04 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.

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2021-12-02 2:36:39 PM  
Two bad the last two seasons cost too much to scrap.
 
2021-12-02 2:39:18 PM  
Meh, I am still suffering from GoT burn out.
 
2021-12-02 2:53:12 PM  

MurphyMurphy: UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.

Yes, I think the raised eyebrows are the cost, not the term pilot.


To be fair, this wasn't some new thing they were taking a huge risk on, this is a GOT prequel. Of course with the expectation of a good product and the fantasy elements that the show calls for, they'd have to spend a pretty penny on it.

If you want to know which pilots have a chance of becoming popular TV shows, see which advance screeners the interns are pirating and trading amongst themselves between studios.
 
2021-12-02 2:57:03 PM  
Miranda Richardson is known for Harry Potter? She's Queenie from Blackadder.
 
2021-12-02 3:10:22 PM  

ng2810: MurphyMurphy: UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.

Yes, I think the raised eyebrows are the cost, not the term pilot.

To be fair, this wasn't some new thing they were taking a huge risk on, this is a GOT prequel. Of course with the expectation of a good product and the fantasy elements that the show calls for, they'd have to spend a pretty penny on it.

If you want to know which pilots have a chance of becoming popular TV shows, see which advance screeners the interns are pirating and trading amongst themselves between studios.


Honestly, even a Game of Thrones prequel is a bit of a gamble at this point. People felt so let down by that last season, and the general consensus seems to be that the further away from the books/source material they got, the worse the show was. At this point, even though it's a recognizable brand, I'm not sure anyone is clamoring for more.
 
2021-12-02 3:57:28 PM  
AnotherBluesStringer:
...and the general consensus seems to be that the further away from the books/source material they got, the worse the show was....

I largely disagree with this. The original books have story threads that range from decent to bad and were desperately in need of an editor. There would be tens and hundreds of pages devoted to threads that went nowhere. Both Brienne and The Hound both benefitted greatly as characters from abandoning their book storylines and writing them new ones. The books have often excellent ideas that suffer often shoddy execution, at least up to the point where they were apparently abandoned by the author.
 
2021-12-02 4:22:29 PM  
I wonder how much of that $30 million was spent on sets, props, and costumes that would have been used throughout the series.
 
2021-12-02 4:33:06 PM  

BitBasher: largely disagree with this. The original books have story threads that range from decent to bad and were desperately in need of an editor. There would be tens and hundreds of pages devoted to threads that went nowhere. Both Brienne and The Hound both benefitted greatly as characters from abandoning their book storylines and writing them new ones. The books have often excellent ideas that suffer often shoddy execution, at least up to the point where they were apparently abandoned by the author.


I tend to agree.  First book did a good job introducing major players.  Brought more minor players into it as it went on and somehow I think Martin got more interested in exploring these new characters that he kind of forgot where it was all supposed to go and I think he's stuck now realizing he can't really tie it all together again.

The show did a good job trimming the fat when they were still working from the published books.  When they lost that and had to go off outlines of what was to come...
 
2021-12-02 5:53:41 PM  

The Crepes of Wrath: UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.

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/for those who missed the pulp fiction pop culture reference


Read this as "Pulp Culture" and now I want to see that movie.
 
2021-12-02 9:28:33 PM  
It sounds to me like New Executive Syndrome. A new executive takes over, and since he hadn't spearheaded this pilot, he canceled it. God knows, if it had been a hit, he'd have to credit the old regime, and who can have that?? The world of media executives is pure ego and dick-waving contests.

It's possible the pilot really was bad, but then the responsible thing to do is to figure out how to fix it, rather than trash it completely.
 
2021-12-02 9:31:03 PM  
"I don't think this one is gonna print cash like the other one, Bob."

"I think you're right.  Cancel it.   Drinks?"
 
2021-12-02 10:26:59 PM  
Game of Thrones is the one thing where the ending was so terrible that it killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that world, ever.

Is this how the fanboys feel about The Rise of Skywalker?  It's horrible.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that HBO could have paid my weird ass a few thousand bucks and I could have given them a plot outline for the final two seasons that would have been infinitely better than what they ended up with.
 
2021-12-02 10:37:11 PM  

Socrofece: Game of Thrones is the one thing where the ending was so terrible that it killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that world, ever.

Is this how the fanboys feel about The Rise of Skywalker?  It's horrible.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that HBO could have paid my weird ass a few thousand bucks and I could have given them a plot outline for the final two seasons that would have been infinitely better than what they ended up with.


"These Star Wars sequels are terrible, and they've killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that universe, ever!!!"

**Mandalorian premiers**

"OMG!!! This is so awesome!!!!"
 
2021-12-02 10:54:31 PM  

Corn_Fed: Socrofece: Game of Thrones is the one thing where the ending was so terrible that it killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that world, ever.

Is this how the fanboys feel about The Rise of Skywalker?  It's horrible.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that HBO could have paid my weird ass a few thousand bucks and I could have given them a plot outline for the final two seasons that would have been infinitely better than what they ended up with.

"These Star Wars sequels are terrible, and they've killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that universe, ever!!!"

**Mandalorian premiers**

"OMG!!! This is so awesome!!!!"


A spaghetti western set in the GoT 'verse isn't the worst idea.
 
2021-12-03 2:07:14 AM  
Hello. We need a weekly wheel of time thread for the Amazon series.

/huge fan
//nerd about the series
///this show will stick the landing at the end of it all. It will succeed where GoT failed.
 
2021-12-03 6:30:34 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.


Now tell us in a measurement we all can visualize, like, say, number of trips to the moon, how far $30 million would reach it it were stacked up currency.
 
2021-12-03 6:32:20 AM  

skyotter: I wonder how much of that $30 million was spent on sets, props, and costumes that would have been used throughout the series.


I wonder how much of that stuff was reused for the series they picked up?
 
2021-12-03 6:33:45 AM  

Summoner101: Corn_Fed: Socrofece: Game of Thrones is the one thing where the ending was so terrible that it killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that world, ever.

Is this how the fanboys feel about The Rise of Skywalker?  It's horrible.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that HBO could have paid my weird ass a few thousand bucks and I could have given them a plot outline for the final two seasons that would have been infinitely better than what they ended up with.

"These Star Wars sequels are terrible, and they've killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that universe, ever!!!"

**Mandalorian premiers**

"OMG!!! This is so awesome!!!!"

A spaghetti western set in the GoT 'verse isn't the worst idea.


I haven't watched it, but isn't that sort of what The Witcher is?
 
2021-12-03 6:51:42 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: moothemagiccow: The Crepes of Wrath: UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.

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/for those who missed the pulp fiction pop culture reference

What did he do, memorize the whole farking movie? I'm embarrassed for both of you

I'm guessing that, because we're on the internet, he probably looked up the movie quote using Google.

So simple, anyone but a Texan could figure it out.


Don't be a rectangle.
 
2021-12-03 6:53:01 AM  

stuhayes2010: Meh, I am still suffering from GoT burn out.


I'm still mad it had less nudity as time passed. Especially in the end
 
2021-12-03 6:55:05 AM  

Myk-House of El: BitBasher: largely disagree with this. The original books have story threads that range from decent to bad and were desperately in need of an editor. There would be tens and hundreds of pages devoted to threads that went nowhere. Both Brienne and The Hound both benefitted greatly as characters from abandoning their book storylines and writing them new ones. The books have often excellent ideas that suffer often shoddy execution, at least up to the point where they were apparently abandoned by the author.

I tend to agree.  First book did a good job introducing major players.  Brought more minor players into it as it went on and somehow I think Martin got more interested in exploring these new characters that he kind of forgot where it was all supposed to go and I think he's stuck now realizing he can't really tie it all together again.

The show did a good job trimming the fat when they were still working from the published books.  When they lost that and had to go off outlines of what was to come...


Sounds like it's time to kill of characters
 
2021-12-03 7:33:57 AM  

Great_Milenko: Summoner101: Corn_Fed: Socrofece: Game of Thrones is the one thing where the ending was so terrible that it killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that world, ever.

Is this how the fanboys feel about The Rise of Skywalker?  It's horrible.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that HBO could have paid my weird ass a few thousand bucks and I could have given them a plot outline for the final two seasons that would have been infinitely better than what they ended up with.

"These Star Wars sequels are terrible, and they've killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that universe, ever!!!"

**Mandalorian premiers**

"OMG!!! This is so awesome!!!!"

A spaghetti western set in the GoT 'verse isn't the worst idea.

I haven't watched it, but isn't that sort of what The Witcher is?


The Dunk and Egg stories are kind of a spaghetti western set in the GoT universe. An oversized Knight and his puny bald squire (with a secret identity) travel around Westeros battling a bad guy or two in each story.
 
2021-12-03 7:47:44 AM  

Myk-House of El: BitBasher: largely disagree with this. The original books have story threads that range from decent to bad and were desperately in need of an editor. There would be tens and hundreds of pages devoted to threads that went nowhere. Both Brienne and The Hound both benefitted greatly as characters from abandoning their book storylines and writing them new ones. The books have often excellent ideas that suffer often shoddy execution, at least up to the point where they were apparently abandoned by the author.

I tend to agree.  First book did a good job introducing major players.  Brought more minor players into it as it went on and somehow I think Martin got more interested in exploring these new characters that he kind of forgot where it was all supposed to go and I think he's stuck now realizing he can't really tie it all together again.

The show did a good job trimming the fat when they were still working from the published books.  When they lost that and had to go off outlines of what was to come...


The tragedy is that they went off script before season 6 and season 6 was really good, though I guess they pulled out a lot of happy endings to get there.  Around that time the show runners were offered a chance to do a Star Wars movie, if not a whole trilogy based on their enormous success with GoT. This is where everything fell apart. They told HBO they were burned out and the crew was burned out and they needed to finish the series in one season. HBO pushed back and got them to do two shortened seasons instead. George Martin recently came out and said he wanted 4 more full seasons, but of course he wasn't spending half a year or more on location in cold, miserable places every year.

The big mistake was that HBO stuck by their show runners that mentally had one foot out the door instead of letting them move on and promoting a someone from the writers room and directorial staff to take over.  And everyone involved paid for that mistake. The half-baked ending damaged the show runners' careers and broke the franchise.
 
2021-12-03 8:49:20 AM  

AnotherBluesStringer: ng2810: MurphyMurphy: UNC_Samurai: Well, the way they pick TV shows is, they make one show. That show's called a pilot. Then they show that one show to the people who pick shows, and on the strength of that one show they decide if they want to make more shows. Some get chosen and become television programs. Some don't, become nothing. She starred in one of the ones that became nothing.

Yes, I think the raised eyebrows are the cost, not the term pilot.

To be fair, this wasn't some new thing they were taking a huge risk on, this is a GOT prequel. Of course with the expectation of a good product and the fantasy elements that the show calls for, they'd have to spend a pretty penny on it.

If you want to know which pilots have a chance of becoming popular TV shows, see which advance screeners the interns are pirating and trading amongst themselves between studios.

Honestly, even a Game of Thrones prequel is a bit of a gamble at this point. People felt so let down by that last season, and the general consensus seems to be that the further away from the books/source material they got, the worse the show was. At this point, even though it's a recognizable brand, I'm not sure anyone is clamoring for more.


That last season took all the fan goodwill it had amassed, and abused it so bad Ramsay Bolton said "daaaamn".

In this house we went from "let's upgrade the TV, new season of GoT starting tomorrow!" and rewatching pretty much everything before a new season started to not mentioning it's name ever again.
 
2021-12-03 10:08:20 AM  

BitBasher: AnotherBluesStringer:
...and the general consensus seems to be that the further away from the books/source material they got, the worse the show was....

I largely disagree with this. The original books have story threads that range from decent to bad and were desperately in need of an editor. There would be tens and hundreds of pages devoted to threads that went nowhere. Both Brienne and The Hound both benefitted greatly as characters from abandoning their book storylines and writing them new ones. The books have often excellent ideas that suffer often shoddy execution, at least up to the point where they were apparently abandoned by the author.


Maybe even worse from the production of the show is what George did with Sansa Stark. She spends 2 entire books twiddling her thumbs at the Eyrie. There was just no way they could have Sophie Turner on contract for 2 seasons for a few cutaway scenes a year where she talks politics with Littlefinger or meets some potential suitor.  So they put her into the plot line George wrote for an Arya imposter character in the books, marrying Ramsey Bolton and so on.
 
2021-12-03 11:30:03 AM  

Socrofece: Game of Thrones is the one thing where the ending was so terrible that it killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that world, ever.

Is this how the fanboys feel about The Rise of Skywalker?  It's horrible.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that HBO could have paid my weird ass a few thousand bucks and I could have given them a plot outline for the final two seasons that would have been infinitely better than what they ended up with.


I'm with you. Before the final season I was gearing up to go get the books and read through them to see all the details. As the train wreck lurched off the rails in slow motion I decided it totally ruined my desire to see anything GoT. I think it's the first time anything retroactively ruined a series for me.
 
2021-12-03 12:42:15 PM  

Summoner101: Corn_Fed: Socrofece: Game of Thrones is the one thing where the ending was so terrible that it killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that world, ever.

Is this how the fanboys feel about The Rise of Skywalker?  It's horrible.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that HBO could have paid my weird ass a few thousand bucks and I could have given them a plot outline for the final two seasons that would have been infinitely better than what they ended up with.

"These Star Wars sequels are terrible, and they've killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that universe, ever!!!"

**Mandalorian premiers**

"OMG!!! This is so awesome!!!!"

A spaghetti western set in the GoT 'verse isn't the worst idea.


I'd have paid more money for "The Adventures of Arya and the Hound" as a travelling buddy-cop type show.
 
2021-12-03 2:23:09 PM  

Summoner101: Corn_Fed: Socrofece: Game of Thrones is the one thing where the ending was so terrible that it killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that world, ever.

Is this how the fanboys feel about The Rise of Skywalker?  It's horrible.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that HBO could have paid my weird ass a few thousand bucks and I could have given them a plot outline for the final two seasons that would have been infinitely better than what they ended up with.

"These Star Wars sequels are terrible, and they've killed 100% of my enthusiasm for anything else from that universe, ever!!!"

**Mandalorian premiers**

"OMG!!! This is so awesome!!!!"

A spaghetti western set in the GoT 'verse isn't the worst idea.


GOT: A Girl Travels
 
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