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2021-12-02 3:39:41 AM  
Only €20 here in Italy. 🇮🇹
 
2021-12-02 4:03:29 AM  
you can be tested for free here, unless it's for foreign travel
 
2021-12-02 5:54:22 AM  
Covid-19 testing and vaccination are free in Australia...
 
2021-12-02 6:01:38 AM  
Though it's inexcusable for people to be priced gouged over COVID testing, two things happened in this guy's story. First, he went to the ER, which charges outrageous prices for everything, unfortunately.

Second, he was sent checks for the amounts, bout the guy moved so one check bounced back to his insurer. It would be nice if a direct deposit could have been done.
 
2021-12-02 6:02:34 AM  
"If at all possible, don't go to the hospital."

That's always been my policy.

More people die at hospitals than anywhere else.

Dangerous fkkn places, hospitals.
 
2021-12-02 6:12:29 AM  

bughunter: Dangerous fkkn places, hospitals.


... and that prayer! You start hearing prayer and folks drop like flies.
 
2021-12-02 6:19:11 AM  
Jaden Janak doesn't seem very bootstrappy for a Texan.

/ Also free testing in England, unless for foreign travel.
 
2021-12-02 6:19:34 AM  
So CVS does free COVID testing, but I could also go to the ER. "Oh I've got insurance so it will all be free!"

I guess this is a welcome to the American healthcare system.
 
2021-12-02 6:21:11 AM  
Wait - you have to pay for COVID tests? And you wonder why the numbers are unreliable? WTF!

COVID tests and vaccines (and treatments) are socialized here. No bill to pay
 
2021-12-02 6:28:25 AM  

AirForceVet: Only €20 here in Italy. 🇮🇹


Virus is good money in the states.

Big pharma stock owners have vacations to take, etc

Run amuck capitalism is a hellava drug.
 
2021-12-02 6:29:10 AM  

LarrySouth: Covid-19 testing and vaccination are free in Australia...


Democracy is free there too.
 
2021-12-02 6:30:20 AM  
I've been tested numerous times and haven't had to pay anything. In fact everywhere I've gone, including the hospital, hasn't even asked for insurance information.

Sounds to me like someone on the back end is exploiting someone to bump those numbers in that for profit hospital
 
2021-12-02 6:31:32 AM  

Shaggy_C: So CVS does free COVID testing, but I could also go to the ER. "Oh I've got insurance so it will all be free!"

I guess this is a welcome to the American healthcare system.


The best in the world.......if u r a big pharma stock owner anyway.
 
2021-12-02 6:32:34 AM  

montreal_medic: Wait - you have to pay for COVID tests? And you wonder why the numbers are unreliable? WTF!

COVID tests and vaccines (and treatments) are socialized here. No bill to pay


That is because u live in a Democratic Republic.
 
2021-12-02 6:37:39 AM  

Lady J: you can be tested for free here, unless it's for foreign travel


Down the street from me is a 100% free COVID PCR testing site at my local hospital here in MA.  No appointments necessary.  The state and my insurance cover it 100% no copays or bills later.  Because Texas, and specifically Governor Abbott and his staff are likely embezzling the COVID funds sent to them by Congress to cover testing.  Because it's a critical part of fighting the pandemic.  This person's experience will strongly discourage testing.  One of the many reasons we need vaccine passports for air and interstate travel at this point.
Please get rid of the crazy Texas.
 
2021-12-02 6:40:33 AM  
Tests are free in Monroe county, NY, no insurance needed.
They are also planning on mailing every resident a test kit in the coming weeks.
 
2021-12-02 6:52:02 AM  

Linux_Yes: montreal_medic: Wait - you have to pay for COVID tests? And you wonder why the numbers are unreliable? WTF!

COVID tests and vaccines (and treatments) are socialized here. No bill to pay

That is because u live in a Democratic Republic.


Yeah, it's practically like Best Korea. Hell they built their entire national cuisine on seal blubber and oatmeal.
 
2021-12-02 6:52:17 AM  
"What if this happens to someone else and they do truly believe that they are personally liable for these charges?"

They call their insuring company and get it sorted out?

Sounds hard.
 
2021-12-02 6:57:01 AM  
Well that's just because healthcare in this country is broken and conservatives are fighting to keep it that way.
 
2021-12-02 6:59:21 AM  
Yeah, he went to the @&#%ing ER for a Covid test like a damned moron.

Go to a local pharmacy. Or an outpatient clinic. Pretty much anywhere else. It'll be free or close to it. You occupy already-overloaded ER personnel's time with your non-emergency nonsense and you bet they will charge you for it.
 
2021-12-02 7:05:50 AM  

HypnozombieX: Well that's just because healthcare in this country is broken and conservatives are fighting to keep it that way.


I'm trying to contact a physician to address anxiety attacks I've been having.

Not actually taking patients, phone number out of service, person at the number not taking calls (these were numbers listed by my insurance company for the doctors), number goes to the wrong part of the hospital, no appointments available online for at least 2 months.

I'd also like to take the time to thank the online prescription service my company uses for having to ration my medication for the next 5 days, and for the staff at my previous primary care doctor's office for sending the prescription to the wrong pharmacy, in the wrong city.  Twice.

Today I'm trying to get help through my company's direct EAP online mental health care program.  Sure, they have absolutely no power to manage medications whatsoever, but maybe they'll actually have the right contact information for someone that can.
 
2021-12-02 7:08:27 AM  

skinink: Though it's inexcusable for people to be priced gouged over COVID testing, two things happened in this guy's story. First, he went to the ER, which charges outrageous prices for everything, unfortunately.

Second, he was sent checks for the amounts, bout the guy moved so one check bounced back to his insurer. It would be nice if a direct deposit could have been done.


Exactly.  The test is free.  Going to the ER is what costs $2000.

STOP GOING TO THE ER FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T FARKING EMERGENCIES.

Unless it's a literal life or death situation (like you literally can't breathe and need immediate oxygen, having a heart attack or stroke, were in a major accident, or shot by a gun), go to your regular doctor, or if it needs to be fairly quick, urgent care.

ERs are for EMERGENCIES.  Are you actively dying or think you are?  Go there.  Otherwise, piss off!
 
2021-12-02 7:09:41 AM  
I always over-prepare for things so when I went for my first shot, I brought two forms of ID, my insurance card, and a couple of other sundries.

::walk into CVS::

"Sign this and sit over there."

::Jab::

"You can stay here for about five minutes so we can monitor for side effects or leave right now, but we're not responsible if you collapse after going through those doors"

::Walked out by bought some discounted after-Halloween chocolate before leaving::
 
2021-12-02 7:10:14 AM  
In some places, the test is free, the nurse who swabs your nasal passage is charged.

If you're unvaccinated and need weekly testing, you pay. (seems right)

If you were exposed aor feel ill and go to a testing site, it's free..
 
2021-12-02 7:13:11 AM  
Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.
 
2021-12-02 7:15:46 AM  

southernmanblog: Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.


Interesting because everyone I know in real life has had the exact opposite experience.

I'm not sure I buy your nonsense.
 
2021-12-02 7:19:06 AM  
Since they were technically at the emergency room, Conway Medical Center said it was "legally bound to medically evaluate, treat, and discharge" them. In this case, it was for allergies - treatment the couple said they didn't ask for.

Holy hell, that's stupid.

Also, can people not pick up home-testing kits at Walgreens or wherever?
I have 5 at home and I'm virtually a hermit these days.
 
2021-12-02 7:19:24 AM  
 Buried lede, insurance paid the bill.

Also don't go to the emergency room for a covid test.  Not only will you receive a confusing bill, you're wasting time for people with actual emergencies.
 
2021-12-02 7:23:15 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: "What if this happens to someone else and they do truly believe that they are personally liable for these charges?"

They call their insuring company and get it sorted out?

Sounds hard.


They review co pays before getting service?
 
2021-12-02 7:25:54 AM  

FleshFlapps: southernmanblog: Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.

Interesting because everyone I know in real life has had the exact opposite experience.

I'm not sure I buy your nonsense.


I'm not sure you know everyone in real life.
 
2021-12-02 7:37:31 AM  

FleshFlapps: southernmanblog: Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.

Interesting because everyone I know in real life has had the exact opposite experience.

I'm not sure I buy your nonsense.


Ah yes. Just flat out deny someone as being wrong.

Not going to lie, tell me who you and everyone you know have as insurance providers?
 
2021-12-02 7:39:12 AM  
Why is the insurer mailing checks to the patient rather than paying the provider correctly?

/guessing the answer is Texas.
 
2021-12-02 7:40:14 AM  
Yeah, this guy is completely in the wrong here.  His insurance did pay for it, he just moved and didn't update his address, and he went to the ER for a goddamn Covid test.  He probably drove past 2 CVS a Walgreens and a drive thru testing site on the way to the hospital.

America has a lot of issues with our healthcare industry, but this isn't one of them.
 
2021-12-02 7:44:29 AM  

southernmanblog: Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.


If you already had insurance,then ACA does not involve you.
 
2021-12-02 7:49:47 AM  
I can get you ivermectin for half that.
 
2021-12-02 7:55:49 AM  
The Urgent Cares here (which is where you go for testing - there are no more big drive through testing sites with the exception of one, appointment only, that is for pre hospital procedure/surgery) are trying to pull this. Asymptomatic exposure testing is free, but if you are symptomatic at all, even a very slight tickle in the throat, mild headache, anything, you need to be "seen" and billed.
 
2021-12-02 8:01:17 AM  

Dafatone: Why is the insurer mailing checks to the patient rather than paying the provider correctly?

/guessing the answer is Texas.


If I had to guess? Because he probably only gave his personal info but not his insurance info. Because he sounds none too bright. In which case, yep, they just bill you at home.
 
2021-12-02 8:01:25 AM  

Dafatone: Why is the insurer mailing checks to the patient rather than paying the provider correctly?

/guessing the answer is Texas.


Not just Texas. Out of network probably.
 
2021-12-02 8:03:05 AM  
"Conway Medical Center told CBS News the Costanzos went to the wrong place"

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2021-12-02 8:03:13 AM  

FleshFlapps: southernmanblog: Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.

Interesting because everyone I know in real life has had the exact opposite experience.

I'm not sure I buy your nonsense.


the thread is at the stage where four 'ppl' smarted him, so er... time to drift away
 
2021-12-02 8:04:43 AM  

Bukharin: southernmanblog: Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.

If you already had insurance,then ACA does not involve you.


I don't think you remember all the shenanigans that happened when ACA came into being. Hell, I lost my insurance entirely and the public plans were twice the price of my previous plan and had deductibles three times the size.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w​a​y/2013/12/13/250694372/obamas-you-can-​keep-it-promise-is-lie-of-the-year
 
2021-12-02 8:04:59 AM  

southernmanblog: Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.


Really? Mine went from 100 dollars down to 35. I call shenanigans on your bullcrap.

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2021-12-02 8:05:59 AM  
Our hospitals here now have huge signs saying that they're not in the business of doing Covid testing for the general public, so take your hide elsewhere.
 
2021-12-02 8:07:48 AM  

southernmanblog: Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.


That sounds like a deductible, not a copay.

I moved off of the "Cadillac plan" and to a high deductible this year. I put the premium differential into an HSA which makes everything "feel" free at the point of service.
 
2021-12-02 8:08:24 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: "What if this happens to someone else and they do truly believe that they are personally liable for these charges?"

They call their insuring company and get it sorted out?

Sounds hard.


Sounds like someone who hasn't had to deal with health insurance companies. There's literally no reason for them to exist.
 
2021-12-02 8:09:19 AM  

TheReject: Bukharin: southernmanblog: Before the "Affordable" Care Act, my ER copay was $60.

Now it's $1950.

Same employer, same insurance.

If you already had insurance,then ACA does not involve you.

I don't think you remember all the shenanigans that happened when ACA came into being. Hell, I lost my insurance entirely and the public plans were twice the price of my previous plan and had deductibles three times the size.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-wa​y/2013/12/13/250694372/obamas-you-can-​keep-it-promise-is-lie-of-the-year


If you "lost your insurance entirely" when ACA went into effect that means you had such a shiatty policy that it didn't meet the legal standard for "health insurance" under ACA.
 
2021-12-02 8:09:24 AM  

big pig peaches: Dafatone: Why is the insurer mailing checks to the patient rather than paying the provider correctly?

/guessing the answer is Texas.

Not just Texas. Out of network probably.


Texas has these urgent care centers that are really ERs. They are all out of network and essentially huge scams. Most are funded with private equity. All are out of network so they can Ballance bill whatever they desire.
 
2021-12-02 8:09:51 AM  

jake3988: skinink: Though it's inexcusable for people to be priced gouged over COVID testing, two things happened in this guy's story. First, he went to the ER, which charges outrageous prices for everything, unfortunately.

Second, he was sent checks for the amounts, bout the guy moved so one check bounced back to his insurer. It would be nice if a direct deposit could have been done.

Exactly.  The test is free.  Going to the ER is what costs $2000.

STOP GOING TO THE ER FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T FARKING EMERGENCIES.

Unless it's a literal life or death situation (like you literally can't breathe and need immediate oxygen, having a heart attack or stroke, were in a major accident, or shot by a gun), go to your regular doctor, or if it needs to be fairly quick, urgent care.

ERs are for EMERGENCIES.  Are you actively dying or think you are?  Go there.  Otherwise, piss off!


My wife is an ER nurse who has taken some travel jobs. When somebody with the sniffles comes in, a lot of ERs call this "fast track" or something similar - the patient thinks they're being seen quickly, but what it really means is that they're trying to get you out of there fast so they can give the room to somebody who actually needs it.
 
2021-12-02 8:12:22 AM  

The_Homeless_Guy: big pig peaches: Dafatone: Why is the insurer mailing checks to the patient rather than paying the provider correctly?

/guessing the answer is Texas.

Not just Texas. Out of network probably.

Texas has these urgent care centers that are really ERs. They are all out of network and essentially huge scams. Most are funded with private equity. All are out of network so they can Ballance bill whatever they desire.


Maybe so, but this happened at a hospital.
 
2021-12-02 8:15:44 AM  
You'd think someone at the ER would have mentioned he'd be better off going to a drive thru center. Seems mighty predatory.
 
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