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(NBC News)   Elizabeth Holmes: My BF abused me and was always running me down, and that's why I commit all those crimes out of low self esteem. Prosecutors you mean like in this text where he said: ""U r god's tigress and warrior. You are extraordinary."?   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2021-12-01 2:50:56 PM  
Her lawyers were begging her not to testify so that she wouldn't open herself up to cross-examination.  But she still thinks she can bullshiat her way out of anything.
 
2021-12-01 5:07:38 PM  
One fawning text doesn't prove her wrong about the alleged abuse.

But, neither does the alleged abuse act as a mitigating circumstance for the bullshiat she was pulling.
 
2021-12-01 5:40:55 PM  
This white lady is going to walk so hard.
 
2021-12-01 5:41:07 PM  
Did her plan to get knocked up to generate sympathy with the jury ever come to fruition?
 
2021-12-01 5:43:52 PM  

dothemath: This white lady is going to walk so hard.


Not so sure. She stole from the rich. Takes some privilege to get away with that.
 
2021-12-01 5:43:56 PM  
Free Britney!
 
2021-12-01 5:45:22 PM  

dothemath: This white lady is going to walk so hard.


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2021-12-01 5:46:08 PM  

farkyorefeelings: dothemath: This white lady is going to walk so hard.

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You dont want no part of this.
 
2021-12-01 5:46:12 PM  

dothemath: This white lady is going to walk so hard.


I read this to the tune of "Goodbye Horses"
 
2021-12-01 5:47:44 PM  
Yeah, abusive people being effusive with praise is pretty textbook, but on the bright side having those text messages made public might make the thought of hiding in a cell and never coming out seem more appealing.
 
2021-12-01 5:47:52 PM  

Erik_Emune: dothemath: This white lady is going to walk so hard.

Not so sure. She stole from the rich. Takes some privilege to get away with that.


Exactly.

If she had committed fraud and *made a lot of money for a bunch of rich people*, she wouldn't have even been *charged*.

But she screwed a bunch of rich people out of a lot of money. And, she's a woman. She's gonna do some time.
 
2021-12-01 5:50:23 PM  
But, man, those crazy eyes never get old.
 
2021-12-01 5:50:28 PM  
Without rtfa, the victimized are certainly among those who post about how proud and strong they are. More likely, less likely, I have no idea.

I know a rape victim who thinks bullying trans people is appropriate, because he got stronger when he got bullied, and that's why he is such a success.

He is an unemployed drunk who self medicates with booze and drugs, and by any objective measure has completely failed at life.

But he'll look you in the eye and tell you how strong, tough, smart, intelligent, and successful he is. Broken people do weird stuff. Doing weird stuff isn't evidence they aren't broken.
 
2021-12-01 5:50:45 PM  
Defense team: Quick get the black turtle neck so she can regain some superficial Jobbsian legitimacy!
 
2021-12-01 5:53:33 PM  
when your defence has absolutely nothing to do with your crime, just cut a plea deal
 
2021-12-01 6:02:58 PM  
Years ago my best friend wouldn't stop fawning over her new firefighter boyfriend, greatest guy every, he is so sweet, he is so awesome in bed etc. When around him she would not stop complementing him in subtle and very public ways. Always dropping little quips about him not having to worry about the size of his manhood, how strong he was, how brave, he saved farking kittens in trees, lots of PDA...the kind of shiat that would make you want to puke. It went on like this for a few months until he pushed her in the face so hard that she passed out and had a very impressive black eye.

Turns out he was actually an emotional and physically abusive scumbag and she was being gaslit, slapped around and conned into believing he was a dick because of some kind of failing on her part, so in her mind, the more she kissed his ass the better the relationship would be and he would happy with her etc. Thankfully it was enough of a wake up call to get her to walk away from him.

He didn't want to let her walk away.

/I made sure he left her alone
//Gave him a nice matching shiner to go with hers.
 
2021-12-01 6:05:22 PM  
She began the scam before he showed up.
 
2021-12-01 6:10:29 PM  

davynelson: when your defence has absolutely nothing to do with your crime, just cut a plea deal



She is a total sociopath...If she can get away with lying to someone, even the most trivial thing,
she does it.Getting away with lies and deceit is her fetish, that is her food..There is NO way any jury is going to believe a word she says.. Everything she ever reported about her business was a damn lie.She lied to investors, she lied to friends, she lied to everyone she every spoke too..She manipulated everything
involved to backup those lies..Every report, "breakthrough", everything was exaggerated or lie of omission
to push her fraud..It was done with malice, it was done with intent and forethought..She kept it up for years.

Trying to play the "Oh poor me, I'm just a pretty blonde girl that got abused" is just farking insulting..
 
2021-12-01 6:10:48 PM  
If this bullshiat defense works, Jodi Arias needs to appeal, ASAP.
 
2021-12-01 6:17:48 PM  
What does her uncle John think about how she's been screwing people for money.
 
2021-12-01 6:18:26 PM  
Pathological narcissists often use alternating "love bombing" and de-valuing with silent treatment or stonewalling to fark up people's psyches, break down their self-esteem, and get control over them, so strongly complimenting texts do NOT prove lack of abuse, especially of the psychological variety.

The perp in this case, is, obviously, full of shiat, but be weary of "He can't be an abuser! We have him acting nice on record!" as proof of the person actually being nice vs. it being part of a manipulative cycle, because it very much does NOT prove it one way or the other.
 
2021-12-01 6:18:58 PM  
The fact is is that some people will invent lies to win in court. I went through an ugly divorce where ex accused me of hitting my children which I have never done once. My kids wrote letters to the judge saying that this just wasn't true. I won custody. After the fact excuses and accusations are like a holes, everyone has one and it very seldom excuses criminal behavior.
 
2021-12-01 6:19:28 PM  
Is tigress a thing?  There's really not dictionary entry.  If you want to express that you're an aggressive predator-cat-like hunter, you show them you're a tiger.  Show them what you can do.  The taste of Tony's Frosted Flakes brings out the tiger in you.
 
2021-12-01 6:27:11 PM  

realmolo: Erik_Emune: dothemath: This white lady is going to walk so hard.

Not so sure. She stole from the rich. Takes some privilege to get away with that.

Exactly.

If she had committed fraud and *made a lot of money for a bunch of rich people*, she wouldn't have even been *charged*.

But she screwed a bunch of rich people out of a lot of money. And, she's a woman. She's gonna do some time.


Let's not forget that Martha Stewart did more time than everyone responsible for the 2008 economic collapse. People should STILL be in prison for what they did, but instead they threw the book at her and gave those punks billions more in bailout money.
 
2021-12-01 6:32:16 PM  

soporific: Let's not forget that Martha Stewart did more time than everyone responsible for the 2008 economic collapse.


And she wasn't convicted of insider trading.  She was put in jail for supposedly lying to an agent.  But she wasn't under oath, so had no legal obligation to tell the truth, in my opinion.  No one has adequately explained how they were able to get a conviction out of that.  She would have been much better off to simply tell the federal agent that she wasn't answering any questions without her lawyer present.
 
2021-12-01 6:32:36 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Is tigress a thing?  There's really not dictionary entry.  If you want to express that you're an aggressive predator-cat-like hunter, you show them you're a tiger.  Show them what you can do.  The taste of Tony's Frosted Flakes brings out the tiger in you.


This: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tigress

Also this:
tigressqueen.comView Full Size
 
2021-12-01 6:36:37 PM  

Iniamyen: But, man, those crazy eyes never get old.


That and black turtlenecks. Bet she is a tiger.
 
2021-12-01 6:37:45 PM  
" I'll take 'Things a Sociopath Says' for $800, Alex, K..k..k..k... Ken".

/ FTFM
 
2021-12-01 6:40:09 PM  
On the one hand I could tell you I have been both abused and complimented by the same person.

On the other hand I can tell you that an abusive narcissist will absolutely claim it was THEM who was abused in order to illicit sympathy for their own profit.
 
2021-12-01 6:40:22 PM  

Iniamyen: But, man, those crazy eyes never get old.


I always assumed she ate her partners after mating.

/ and I don't mean the good kind of "eat"
 
2021-12-01 6:42:06 PM  
Would still bang
 
2021-12-01 6:42:31 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Years ago my best friend wouldn't stop fawning over her new firefighter boyfriend, greatest guy every, he is so sweet, he is so awesome in bed etc. When around him she would not stop complementing him in subtle and very public ways. Always dropping little quips about him not having to worry about the size of his manhood, how strong he was, how brave, he saved farking kittens in trees, lots of PDA...the kind of shiat that would make you want to puke. It went on like this for a few months until he pushed her in the face so hard that she passed out and had a very impressive black eye.

Turns out he was actually an emotional and physically abusive scumbag and she was being gaslit, slapped around and conned into believing he was a dick because of some kind of failing on her part, so in her mind, the more she kissed his ass the better the relationship would be and he would happy with her etc. Thankfully it was enough of a wake up call to get her to walk away from him.

He didn't want to let her walk away.

/I made sure he left her alone
//Gave him a nice matching shiner to go with hers.


wegotabadassoverhere.jpg

Just funnin' with ya.  Good on you for helping her out.  Manipulative and abusive assholes are pretty much scum.
 
2021-12-01 6:43:43 PM  

Medic Zero: Iniamyen: But, man, those crazy eyes never get old.

That and black turtlenecks. Bet she is a tiger.


I'd provisionally flagged her as a fraud the second I saw her in the Steve Jobs costume, and confirmed that flag when she wore the costume over and over again. Investors can be really dumb.
 
2021-12-01 6:44:17 PM  

dothemath: This white lady is going to walk so hard.


and go on to start another company.
 
2021-12-01 6:44:52 PM  

SBinRR: Someone Else's Alt: Years ago my best friend wouldn't stop fawning over her new firefighter boyfriend, greatest guy every, he is so sweet, he is so awesome in bed etc. When around him she would not stop complementing him in subtle and very public ways. Always dropping little quips about him not having to worry about the size of his manhood, how strong he was, how brave, he saved farking kittens in trees, lots of PDA...the kind of shiat that would make you want to puke. It went on like this for a few months until he pushed her in the face so hard that she passed out and had a very impressive black eye.

Turns out he was actually an emotional and physically abusive scumbag and she was being gaslit, slapped around and conned into believing he was a dick because of some kind of failing on her part, so in her mind, the more she kissed his ass the better the relationship would be and he would happy with her etc. Thankfully it was enough of a wake up call to get her to walk away from him.

He didn't want to let her walk away.

/I made sure he left her alone
//Gave him a nice matching shiner to go with hers.

wegotabadassoverhere.jpg

Just funnin' with ya.  Good on you for helping her out.  Manipulative and abusive assholes are pretty much scum.

 
2021-12-01 6:45:26 PM  
"Smart" this post if you would watch Elizabeth Holmes in an OnlyFans adult site.

/I would
//NGL
///thirds
 
2021-12-01 6:50:14 PM  
Did he actually use 'U' and 'r' ?

Because that's a deal breaker, right there.
 
2021-12-01 6:53:36 PM  
This lady is as farked as farked can be already and then she demands to testify in her own defense and immediately starts dropping lies that the prosecutors can prove are false. Wow, just, WOW.  I don't think locking her up is going to rehabilitate her. A sane person would have learned their lesson facing this kind of overwhelming evidence. A sane person would have thrown themselves on the mercy of the court and asked for a plea deal long before this went to trial. You can't rehabilitate someone this delusional. She has convinced herself she is the victim in everything that has happened. She needs to spend some time in a state hospital for some serious mental health treatment before she is sent to an actual prison.

She is going to ride this ship all the way to the bottom of the ocean and not even her lawyers are able to stop her.

/Bold plan Cotton
//Let's see how that works out for her
 
2021-12-01 6:54:39 PM  

fat_free: "Smart" this post if you would watch Elizabeth Holmes in an OnlyFans adult site.

/I would
//NGL
///thirds


I wouldn't pay for it, but I'd have a look.
 
2021-12-01 6:55:32 PM  
Verbal abuse can be more about what you should have said, but didn't, you know. And it is never, ever, not unacceptable to do that.
 
2021-12-01 6:57:44 PM  

NateAsbestos: One fawning text doesn't prove her wrong about the alleged abuse.

But, neither does the alleged abuse act as a mitigating circumstance for the bullshiat she was pulling.


Very few abusers are abusive 24/7. That's why abusive relationships are often a cycle of love-bombing, boundary pushing, and abusive acts. The love-bombing is to keep the victim enmeshed in the relationship because they know the good times are very good and almostjustify the bad times. Abusive relationships often start out maybe 5% problematic and then slowly spiral downward until they reach 95% abusive.

However, an abusive relationship does not absolve or even justify Holmes's actions. She defrauded investors and kept doing it after the breakup. She knew what she was doing and had other options than fraud.
 
2021-12-01 7:00:07 PM  
What got me about her public speaking was how she was obviously faking a deep voice. I would listen and say "wow, she is totally facing her voice"

That's what I would say. I would also say I would like to squeeze her boobs, so I guess take it with a grain of salt.
 
2021-12-01 7:00:32 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Years ago my best friend wouldn't stop fawning over her new firefighter boyfriend, greatest guy every, he is so sweet, he is so awesome in bed etc. When around him she would not stop complementing him in subtle and very public ways. Always dropping little quips about him not having to worry about the size of his manhood, how strong he was, how brave, he saved farking kittens in trees, lots of PDA...the kind of shiat that would make you want to puke. It went on like this for a few months until he pushed her in the face so hard that she passed out and had a very impressive black eye.

Turns out he was actually an emotional and physically abusive scumbag and she was being gaslit, slapped around and conned into believing he was a dick because of some kind of failing on her part, so in her mind, the more she kissed his ass the better the relationship would be and he would happy with her etc. Thankfully it was enough of a wake up call to get her to walk away from him.

He didn't want to let her walk away.

/I made sure he left her alone
//Gave him a nice matching shiner to go with hers.


much like gamblers seek out casinos looking for a thrill as they lose their paycheck there is a lot of abused people who repeatedly seek out partners that hit them. i think psychiatrists have a long way to go before the abused will truly be helped. i once had an older female co-worker tell me she had been hit by every guy she ever dated. that made me think.
 
2021-12-01 7:02:00 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Is tigress a thing?  There's really not dictionary entry.  If you want to express that you're an aggressive predator-cat-like hunter, you show them you're a tiger.  Show them what you can do.  The taste of Tony's Frosted Flakes brings out the tiger in you.


A tigress is an adult female tiger, similar to a lioness being an adult female lion.
 
2021-12-01 7:06:43 PM  
See: "petard, hoisted by ..."
 
2021-12-01 7:08:37 PM  

Malenfant: Medic Zero: Iniamyen: But, man, those crazy eyes never get old.

That and black turtlenecks. Bet she is a tiger.

I'd provisionally flagged her as a fraud the second I saw her in the Steve Jobs costume, and confirmed that flag when she wore the costume over and over again. Investors can be really dumb.


for me it was the voice, so obviously fake. That is next level psycho there.
 
2021-12-01 7:08:46 PM  

Erik_Emune: dothemath: This white lady is going to walk so hard.

Not so sure. She stole from the rich. Takes some privilege to get away with that.


The one and only person who ever went to jail for causing the 2008 meltdown that turned into the great recession was Bernie Madoff.

And that was exclusively because he stole from other rich people.
 
2021-12-01 7:09:03 PM  

sinko swimo: Someone Else's Alt: Years ago my best friend wouldn't stop fawning over her new firefighter boyfriend, greatest guy every, he is so sweet, he is so awesome in bed etc. When around him she would not stop complementing him in subtle and very public ways. Always dropping little quips about him not having to worry about the size of his manhood, how strong he was, how brave, he saved farking kittens in trees, lots of PDA...the kind of shiat that would make you want to puke. It went on like this for a few months until he pushed her in the face so hard that she passed out and had a very impressive black eye.

Turns out he was actually an emotional and physically abusive scumbag and she was being gaslit, slapped around and conned into believing he was a dick because of some kind of failing on her part, so in her mind, the more she kissed his ass the better the relationship would be and he would happy with her etc. Thankfully it was enough of a wake up call to get her to walk away from him.

He didn't want to let her walk away.

/I made sure he left her alone
//Gave him a nice matching shiner to go with hers.

much like gamblers seek out casinos looking for a thrill as they lose their paycheck there is a lot of abused people who repeatedly seek out partners that hit them. i think psychiatrists have a long way to go before the abused will truly be helped. i once had an older female co-worker tell me she had been hit by every guy she ever dated. that made me think.


How farking sad is that?

Something I do not sit idle for. If I see some guy hitting woman I get all stabby.
 
2021-12-01 7:11:32 PM  

OgreMagi: soporific: Let's not forget that Martha Stewart did more time than everyone responsible for the 2008 economic collapse.

And she wasn't convicted of insider trading.  She was put in jail for supposedly lying to an agent.  But she wasn't under oath, so had no legal obligation to tell the truth, in my opinion.  No one has adequately explained how they were able to get a conviction out of that.  She would have been much better off to simply tell the federal agent that she wasn't answering any questions without her lawyer present.

Oblig. 

Don't Talk to the Police
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2021-12-01 7:15:57 PM  
Thing is, it is very common in start ups to "fake it until you make it" to some degree.

But when your business is testing people's blood and telling them they have/have not got cancer....
 
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