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(Loudwire)   There Goes My Hero: Foo Fighters cancel Minneapolis show after the venue refuses to comply with their COVID-19 safety demands (Tag for the Foos, not the venue)   (loudwire.com) divider line
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2021-11-30 5:37:06 PM  
Anyone else suddenly feel their hand growing?
 
2021-11-30 5:39:38 PM  
Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos
 
2021-11-30 5:46:28 PM  
Donald Trump is the antichrist and Dave Grohl is the second coming.

/provemewrongcoffeeguy
 
2021-11-30 5:51:22 PM  
They'll move to a more accommodating venue.
 
2021-11-30 5:52:33 PM  
I went to the U2 show there a few years back.

Rained during the show. I was under an overhang and didn't get wet, thankfully.

Getting out of there was a complete clusterfark though. Buses couldn't get in, left packed, idiot drivers still tried to pick up at other stops. Got to the light rail station 5 minutes after the second to the last train left, over an hour to the next one.

I don't know if they do any better now, but if its still like that, I won't go to another show there.
 
2021-11-30 5:59:35 PM  

zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos


Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks. You'll excuse me if I'm not too worried about him missing a show or two
 
2021-11-30 6:16:14 PM  
Pretty surprising move on the stadium. Me and the lady went and saw Gogol Bordello in September at the Palace Theater (small to medium venue) in St. Paul where vax cards were required as were masks during the show. Then went and caught Me First and the Gimme Gimmes, Violent Femmes, and Flogging Molly at The Armory medium to largish venue) at the start of the month where, again, vax cards require and masks optional, friend and I stayed masked up the entire show even in the pit for the good it probably did.

I get the Huntington is a much, much larger venue than either of the two mentioned above, but I would've thought they would especially adhere to the current protocol for the way larger crowd.

As much as I would like to see Foo Fighters, think I'm back to avoiding shows. Bad Religion had to call off a show they were headlining with Alkaline Trio, that my friend for the Flogging show and I were supposed to go to, due to a Covid out break in their tour group, so we called that off. As is, theres been too many cases around here lately. Nice to be able to see a couple shows, definitely not farking around with any concert that doesnt require a vax card.
 
2021-11-30 6:17:20 PM  
How does it get to this point between venues and artists (in either direction).  Doesn't the promoter and venue sign a contract that stipulates things like this?

Some artists request no cell phones (for smaller venues) or request that people don't get seated after the start of the show, no professional cameras, etc.  There's a ton of things that artists request, this is just another thing on top of that.

Wouldn't that be a violation of the contract (aside from exceptions like Florida's dumbass laws that prevent vanues from doing this at all)?  In which case, can't they sue the venue for violating the contract?
 
2021-11-30 6:17:30 PM  

Schlubbe: Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks. You'll excuse me if I'm not too worried about him missing a show or two


yeah but his crew is gonna feel the pinch.  the last few times I've seen the FF, they don't have an overly extravagant stage/lighting show, but it still takes an army to set up/take down the stage (and with an outdoor show, my guess is that Grohl, as he often does, had a mini-stage jutting out from the main stage) so there's a lot of ham-and-eggers that had to be bummed out.

but as someone said, they'll make it up somewhere else.


Schlubbe: Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks.


second response....I read an interview a few months back with Novoselic, re the 30th anniversary, and he said something like, "Kurt shared songwriting credits on a few songs I didn't write dick on, and because of how we split the money, I've been able to have a very, very, very, very fortunate life and I can't believe it sometimes.  i mean, I just played a guitar, ultimately.  It's the weirdest thing to be driving around or, you know, be at the grocery store or whatever, and hear this or that song and think, 'holy shiat, that's us.'  15, 20, 25 years on and it's still going."
 
2021-11-30 6:29:55 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: I went to the U2 show there a few years back.

Rained during the show. I was under an overhang and didn't get wet, thankfully.

Getting out of there was a complete clusterfark though. Buses couldn't get in, left packed, idiot drivers still tried to pick up at other stops. Got to the light rail station 5 minutes after the second to the last train left, over an hour to the next one.

I don't know if they do any better now, but if its still like that, I won't go to another show there.


It's not. Went to a loons game before they got their new stadium. It's a disaster getting out of there and the stadium was literally seating only on 1/2 of the bowl for soccer
 
2021-11-30 6:33:58 PM  

Dibikad: Nice to be able to see a couple shows, definitely not farking around with any concert that doesnt require a vax card.


I saw Dead & Co (the latest iteration of the post-Jerry Grateful Dead, with John Mayer (yeah, that one) in the lead guitar Jerry slot) last month.  They, and the venue (Phoenix) said "proof of vax card or proof of negative test within 48 hours of show" policy".  and they were policing the shiat out of that at entry, such that my party of 4, about 4-5 people away from metal detector / vax check / ticket scan), missed the first song and a half.  the venue screwed up by having probably, literally 18 people (east entrance and west entrance only had 3 lines scanning people in.  one did metal, one did vax, one did ticket).

the band takes a break after about an hour, pal and i went to get a beer.  people were still being scanned in.  Some people missed the entire first half of the show!  that venue was not farking around.
 
2021-11-30 6:39:32 PM  

rickythepenguin: Dibikad: Nice to be able to see a couple shows, definitely not farking around with any concert that doesnt require a vax card.

I saw Dead & Co (the latest iteration of the post-Jerry Grateful Dead, with John Mayer (yeah, that one) in the lead guitar Jerry slot) last month.  They, and the venue (Phoenix) said "proof of vax card or proof of negative test within 48 hours of show" policy".  and they were policing the shiat out of that at entry, such that my party of 4, about 4-5 people away from metal detector / vax check / ticket scan), missed the first song and a half.  the venue screwed up by having probably, literally 18 people (east entrance and west entrance only had 3 lines scanning people in.  one did metal, one did vax, one did ticket).

the band takes a break after about an hour, pal and i went to get a beer.  people were still being scanned in.  Some people missed the entire first half of the show!  that venue was not farking around.


So fans were waiting....everlong?
 
2021-11-30 6:43:53 PM  
Dave is the anti-clapton/kid rock/Ted nugent etc.
 
2021-11-30 6:47:21 PM  

jake3988: How does it get to this point between venues and artists (in either direction).  Doesn't the promoter and venue sign a contract that stipulates things like this?

Wouldn't that be a violation of the contract (aside from exceptions like Florida's dumbass laws that prevent vanues from doing this at all)?  In which case, can't they sue the venue for violating the contract?



just checked:

ST. PAUL - Tuesday morning, Nov. 30, newly inducted Rock and Roll Hall of Famers the Foo Fighters announced an Aug. 3, 2022, stop at the former TCF Bank Stadium in Minneapolis and, hours later, unannounced the planned show.

Foos probably figured this is industry standard - going to what has been posted above re concerts and vaxx checks - and when TCF said "yeah, how about no?" FFs pulled out.  "Sorry kids, they're not playing by our rules, no contract was ever inked....."

Can't sue for breach of contract if there was no contract. but you're right.  let's say that TCF, fast forwarding to Aug 2022, said "yeah, we're not doing COVID protocols, have a great show!"  FFs could sue for breach of contract.  Equally, let's say the Foos played one song and walked off the stage for no reason specified in the contract (safety of band/audience, illness, act of god), just, walked the fark off, the venue could sue for breach.  concerts usually have "artist agrees to perform with best and reasonable efforts for at least 90 minutes" (or whatever).

i was at a Jay Mohr comedy show years ago where jay had a so-so set.  Several times he'd tag a joke that fell flat with, "folks, that was a  way better joke than the reception it got, work with me here."  50 minutes in, i noticed him constantly checking his watch.  at about a literal 61, 62 minutes in, after him staring laser beams every 2 minutes at his watch, he goes, "alright, thanks, you've been great, g'night!"

said to my wife  - "did you notice him starting at his watch, and once he went over 60 minutes, he ended the show without really ending the show?  I guarantee his contract was "60 minutes at least or your fee is prorated to the minute you performed" language."

couple days later on his radio show, "phoenix was weird....one show was great, one show the crowd was really flat, i did the bare minimum, sunday was hit and miss...."

i was like, i farking knew it.  "If i want my full paycheck, do the required one hour and bail."
 
2021-11-30 6:53:05 PM  

Flappyhead: So fans were waiting....everlong?


i like where you head's at, but rigth song, wrong band.  I saw the GD, not Foos.

but otherwise an A+ joke!
 
2021-11-30 7:00:50 PM  
Dave Grohl's hairless taint is a greater contributor to society than any/all of the anti-vaxxers.
 
2021-11-30 7:12:28 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Dave Grohl's hairless taint is a greater contributor to society than any/all of the anti-vaxxers.


That's awfully detailed.
 
2021-11-30 7:13:58 PM  

jso2897: scottydoesntknow: Dave Grohl's hairless taint is a greater contributor to society than any/all of the anti-vaxxers.

That's awfully detailed.


There's an awfully good reason for that detail (not putting pic on Fark just in case..., slightly NSFW maybe?)
 
2021-11-30 7:16:28 PM  
I haven't been to the Twin Cities since before the pandemic, but what is the Huntington Bank Stadium? Is this the Timberwolves stadium or did it used to be called the Target center.
 
2021-11-30 7:22:29 PM  

demonfaerie: I haven't been to the Twin Cities since before the pandemic, but what is the Huntington Bank  Stadium? Is this the Timberwolves stadium or did it used to be called the Target center.


never been to MN period but it appears to be the NCAA football team stadium for the Gophers or maybe Badgers.

and honestly, seems a bit out of the FF's fan draw, re seating capacity.  I've seen them at the local NBA stadium 2-3 times, and then an outdoor "shed" (16-18k amphitheatre) a time or two.  a 65K seating stadium?  God bless them if they can pull it off, but I didn't know they had that kind of draw.
 
2021-11-30 7:31:36 PM  
Lake Street Dive did this with their New Braunfels show earlier in the year. Where was billboard's exaltation of them?
 
2021-11-30 7:32:29 PM  

zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos


Such a bold move by a band of incredibly rich men.

Where are the articles about the smaller bands that did this very same thing, and actually needed the money?
 
2021-11-30 7:35:57 PM  

Schlubbe: zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos

Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks. You'll excuse me if I'm not too worried about him missing a show or two


And they will reschedule to a venue that meets their requirements and barely lose anything, while gaining credibility.
 
2021-11-30 7:39:28 PM  
800k dead, and this thing is still a goddamn joke to a lot of the country.
 
2021-11-30 7:47:26 PM  

Nick Nostril: 800k dead, and this thing is still a goddamn joke to a lot of the country.


A lot of the country refuses to believe 800k have died. That's one of the biggest issues. They sowed enough doubt claiming death certificates were being faked to make money somehow. Others claim COVID doesn't actually kill anyone so it doesn't count. By that logic, AIDS has never killed a single person.
 
2021-11-30 8:04:25 PM  

rickythepenguin: jake3988: How does it get to this point between venues and artists (in either direction).  Doesn't the promoter and venue sign a contract that stipulates things like this?

Wouldn't that be a violation of the contract (aside from exceptions like Florida's dumbass laws that prevent vanues from doing this at all)?  In which case, can't they sue the venue for violating the contract?


just checked:

ST. PAUL - Tuesday morning, Nov. 30, newly inducted Rock and Roll Hall of Famers the Foo Fighters announced an Aug. 3, 2022, stop at the former TCF Bank Stadium in Minneapolis and, hours later, unannounced the planned show.

Foos probably figured this is industry standard - going to what has been posted above re concerts and vaxx checks - and when TCF said "yeah, how about no?" FFs pulled out.  "Sorry kids, they're not playing by our rules, no contract was ever inked....."

Can't sue for breach of contract if there was no contract. but you're right.  let's say that TCF, fast forwarding to Aug 2022, said "yeah, we're not doing COVID protocols, have a great show!"  FFs could sue for breach of contract.  Equally, let's say the Foos played one song and walked off the stage for no reason specified in the contract (safety of band/audience, illness, act of god), just, walked the fark off, the venue could sue for breach.  concerts usually have "artist agrees to perform with best and reasonable efforts for at least 90 minutes" (or whatever).

i was at a Jay Mohr comedy show years ago where jay had a so-so set.  Several times he'd tag a joke that fell flat with, "folks, that was a  way better joke than the reception it got, work with me here."  50 minutes in, i noticed him constantly checking his watch.  at about a literal 61, 62 minutes in, after him staring laser beams every 2 minutes at his watch, he goes, "alright, thanks, you've been great, g'night!"

said to my wife  - "did you notice him starting at his watch, and once he went over 60 minutes, he ended the show without really ...


Van Morrison. You pay him for 60 you're getting exactly 60 no more no less. every farking time
 
2021-11-30 8:19:43 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Nick Nostril: 800k dead, and this thing is still a goddamn joke to a lot of the country.

A lot of the country refuses to believe 800k have died. That's one of the biggest issues. They sowed enough doubt claiming death certificates were being faked to make money somehow. Others claim COVID doesn't actually kill anyone so it doesn't count. By that logic, AIDS has never killed a single person.


don't forget that it's the vaccine doing all the killing.
 
2021-11-30 8:24:45 PM  

kindms: Van Morrison. You pay him for 60 you're getting exactly 60 no more no less. every farking time


i can testify to that.  saw him twice and it was the bare minimum.  both times (this being 2006 or so, then around 2009ish), his band played about 2-3 tunes instrumental, then he came out.  I have no idea if the band's 5-6 minutes counted towards the 60 minutes but, it was a short farking show.
 
2021-11-30 8:35:42 PM  

zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos


Ill bet some insurance money will come into play here.

The venue was chosen months in advance, while COVID was raging. Vaxxes had just come out, so putting on the show was okay, as long as the venue agreed to the various conditions to ensure the safety of all involved.

Between the time the venue agreed to host the show and now, I'd wager some anti-vaxxer got promoted to manager, and he wasn't going to play by the previously agreed rules.

Whether the venue's insurance pays for it all will be the issue. Pretty sure the insurance company will be the band, but no more (they'll pass the costs on to the other policy holders). This was the choice of the venue operators, so any losses are on them. Their current insurance will get cancelled, and they'll have to pay through the nose to get new coverage, at least as long as the current management is in place.

So, fire the venue manager, require all employees to get vaxxed, and have rules in place to ensure only the vaxxed get in to see a show. Only then will they get new insurance.
 
2021-11-30 8:39:44 PM  

rickythepenguin: Schlubbe: Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks. You'll excuse me if I'm not too worried about him missing a show or two

yeah but his crew is gonna feel the pinch.  the last few times I've seen the FF, they don't have an overly extravagant stage/lighting show, but it still takes an army to set up/take down the stage (and with an outdoor show, my guess is that Grohl, as he often does, had a mini-stage jutting out from the main stage) so there's a lot of ham-and-eggers that had to be bummed out.

but as someone said, they'll make it up somewhere else.


Schlubbe: Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks.

second response....I read an interview a few months back with Novoselic, re the 30th anniversary, and he said something like, "Kurt shared songwriting credits on a few songs I didn't write dick on, and because of how we split the money, I've been able to have a very, very, very, very fortunate life and I can't believe it sometimes.  i mean, I just played a guitar, ultimately.  It's the weirdest thing to be driving around or, you know, be at the grocery store or whatever, and hear this or that song and think, 'holy shiat, that's us.'  15, 20, 25 years on and it's still going."


the crew is booked for the entire tour and they get paid by the day.  if shows get canceled for one reason or another their contingencies in place to make sure that their crew gets paid.  same as if there's a travel day during the tour.

the crew won't get cheated out of anything
 
2021-11-30 9:02:39 PM  

Schlubbe: zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos

Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks. You'll excuse me if I'm not too worried about him missing a show or two


how about the 500 or so people he employs? he's famous & loaded, so I agree with that part but the crew & stuff need to make a living.

And music is a BUSINESS. lots of CEO types are just as rich as Dave and it's their JOB to keep everyone working. Any company making HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars is in the same damn boat, just a different product or service being sold.
 
2021-11-30 9:11:15 PM  

Schlubbe: zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos

Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks. You'll excuse me if I'm not too worried about him missing a show or two


I read somewhere once that he is the third richest drummer in the world. The only drummers with more cash are Ringo and Phil Collins. Not sure if he has over taken either of them since then, considering he is still putting out new stuff and touring and writing books and directing movies. And the fact that his fanbase is significantly younger.
 
2021-11-30 9:18:42 PM  

mechgreg: Schlubbe: zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos

Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks. You'll excuse me if I'm not too worried about him missing a show or two

I read somewhere once that he is the third richest drummer in the world. The only drummers with more cash are Ringo and Phil Collins. Not sure if he has over taken either of them since then, considering he is still putting out new stuff and touring and writing books and directing movies. And the fact that his fanbase is significantly younger.


Tour was delayed for covid but even Ringo is still touring with the Allstar band.
 
2021-11-30 9:20:38 PM  

zencanuck: Schlubbe: zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos

Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks. You'll excuse me if I'm not too worried about him missing a show or two

how about the 500 or so people he employs? he's famous & loaded, so I agree with that part but the crew & stuff need to make a living.

And music is a BUSINESS. lots of CEO types are just as rich as Dave and it's their JOB to keep everyone working. Any company making HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars is in the same damn boat, just a different product or service being sold.


Why is he to blame for the crew (assuming they won't get paid) and not the venue for not abiding by FF's rules?
 
2021-11-30 9:23:39 PM  
Thank You Black Jesus!:
the crew is booked for the entire tour and they get paid by the day.  if shows get canceled for one reason or another their contingencies in place to make sure that their crew gets paid.  same as if there's a travel day during the tour.

the crew won't get cheated out of anything


This.  The tour crew gets paid, but as far as the local hands (probably around ~120), it depends on the labor company. They usually get paid in full by the promoter for a cancellation less than two weeks out, so hands should be okay.

The tour got paid.  The promoter is on the hook and will fight the venue. Good for Dave.
 
2021-11-30 10:00:57 PM  

scottydoesntknow: jso2897: scottydoesntknow: Dave Grohl's hairless taint is a greater contributor to society than any/all of the anti-vaxxers.

That's awfully detailed.

There's an awfully good reason for that detail (not putting pic on Fark just in case..., slightly NSFW maybe?)


Scotty, don't you know? That's not Dave Grohl, that's Dave Carney--he's the former editor of the late, lamented skating/lifestyle magazine Big Brother. Both great Daves, but hardly interchangeable. By the way, if you're not familiar with the magazine, the documentary about it, Dumb, is well worth a watch
 
2021-11-30 10:03:42 PM  
rainbowbutter    ''9 hours ago
god farking dammit David Grohl every farking five minutes
every
day
always. all of the days.


i stand validated.  :~P
 
2021-11-30 10:10:51 PM  

jake3988: How does it get to this point between venues and artists (in either direction).  Doesn't the promoter and venue sign a contract that stipulates things like this?

Some artists request no cell phones (for smaller venues) or request that people don't get seated after the start of the show, no professional cameras, etc.  There's a ton of things that artists request, this is just another thing on top of that.

Wouldn't that be a violation of the contract (aside from exceptions like Florida's dumbass laws that prevent vanues from doing this at all)?  In which case, can't they sue the venue for violating the contract?


Some artists are using a loophole to get around Florida's dumbass laws. The law says they cannot require proof of vaccination, but it doesn't say you cannot require proof of a negative COVID test taken within the previous 72 hours, or, in lieu of that, proof of vaccination. The problem is that people often don't know about the restrictions until they arrive at the venue.
 
2021-11-30 10:18:25 PM  

Dibikad: Pretty surprising move on the stadium. Me and the lady went and saw Gogol Bordello in September at the Palace Theater (small to medium venue) in St. Paul where vax cards were required as were masks during the show. Then went and caught Me First and the Gimme Gimmes, Violent Femmes, and Flogging Molly at The Armory medium to largish venue) at the start of the month where, again, vax cards require and masks optional, friend and I stayed masked up the entire show even in the pit for the good it probably did.

I get the Huntington is a much, much larger venue than either of the two mentioned above, but I would've thought they would especially adhere to the current protocol for the way larger crowd.

As much as I would like to see Foo Fighters, think I'm back to avoiding shows. Bad Religion had to call off a show they were headlining with Alkaline Trio, that my friend for the Flogging show and I were supposed to go to, due to a Covid out break in their tour group, so we called that off. As is, theres been too many cases around here lately. Nice to be able to see a couple shows, definitely not farking around with any concert that doesnt require a vax card.


A few years back I took my son to his first concert...Gogol Bordello and Flogging Molly at Meadowbrook. It was awesome.
 
2021-11-30 10:24:17 PM  

rickythepenguin: demonfaerie: I haven't been to the Twin Cities since before the pandemic, but what is the Huntington Bank  Stadium? Is this the Timberwolves stadium or did it used to be called the Target center.

never been to MN period but it appears to be the NCAA football team stadium for the Gophers or maybe Badgers.

and honestly, seems a bit out of the FF's fan draw, re seating capacity.  I've seen them at the local NBA stadium 2-3 times, and then an outdoor "shed" (16-18k amphitheatre) a time or two.  a 65K seating stadium?  God bless them if they can pull it off, but I didn't know they had that kind of draw.


It's the U of Minnesota twin cities golden gophers stadium, that the students paid for through fees. It was TCF Bank but they merged with Huntington Bank and well fark that place I never stepped foot in it and had to pay for it. I always them know during alumni drives why I never give them money.

/CSB they banned alcohol there the first couple years took a couple incidents of alcohol poisoning, from extreme pregaming, and the Vikings playing there to fix that
 
2021-11-30 11:17:11 PM  

TDWCom29: zencanuck: Schlubbe: zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos

Dave is reported to be worth $320 million bucks. You'll excuse me if I'm not too worried about him missing a show or two

how about the 500 or so people he employs? he's famous & loaded, so I agree with that part but the crew & stuff need to make a living.

And music is a BUSINESS. lots of CEO types are just as rich as Dave and it's their JOB to keep everyone working. Any company making HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars is in the same damn boat, just a different product or service being sold.

Why is he to blame for the crew (assuming they won't get paid) and not the venue for not abiding by FF's rules?


He isn't. Apologies for being unclear. i was responding to the "who cares, Dave is loaded" part.

The cancellation is absolutely on the venue/promoter. There is always a technical rider and the vaxx rule would have been in it, so the violation voids the thing. I hope they keep the promoter's deposit (it will be several hundred grand). The promoter made a bad, and expensive guess that they would just play since it was already in motion.

As far as DG, might be loaded personally but he has a payroll to meet either way, and those people are not loaded.

It isn't Dave's fault at all, and it's going to cost HIM too. FF can command several million at a show with the gate, their merch, and their cut of premium revenue (box seats, concessions, etc which about 10 acts in the world can do) so it's a LOT of money. Yes he can "afford it" but it's likely millions left on the table. He has to pay the crew, tours are paid weekly usually, whether they play, travel or rest.

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2021-12-01 1:22:52 AM  

rickythepenguin: Dibikad: Nice to be able to see a couple shows, definitely not farking around with any concert that doesnt require a vax card.

I saw Dead & Co (the latest iteration of the post-Jerry Grateful Dead, with John Mayer (yeah, that one) in the lead guitar Jerry slot) last month.  They, and the venue (Phoenix) said "proof of vax card or proof of negative test within 48 hours of show" policy".  and they were policing the shiat out of that at entry, such that my party of 4, about 4-5 people away from metal detector / vax check / ticket scan), missed the first song and a half.  the venue screwed up by having probably, literally 18 people (east entrance and west entrance only had 3 lines scanning people in.  one did metal, one did vax, one did ticket).

the band takes a break after about an hour, pal and i went to get a beer.  people were still being scanned in.  Some people missed the entire first half of the show!  that venue was not farking around.


If Dead & Co don't do Heartbreak Warfare at some point, I will rage quit.
 
2021-12-01 3:16:48 AM  

MurphyMurphy: Donald Trump is the antichrist and Dave Grohl is the second coming.

/provemewrongcoffeeguy


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/Coffee creamer.
 
2021-12-01 7:54:06 AM  

rickythepenguin: jake3988: How does it get to this point between venues and artists (in either direction).  Doesn't the promoter and venue sign a contract that stipulates things like this?

Wouldn't that be a violation of the contract (aside from exceptions like Florida's dumbass laws that prevent vanues from doing this at all)?  In which case, can't they sue the venue for violating the contract?


just checked:

ST. PAUL - Tuesday morning, Nov. 30, newly inducted Rock and Roll Hall of Famers the Foo Fighters announced an Aug. 3, 2022, stop at the former TCF Bank Stadium in Minneapolis and, hours later, unannounced the planned show.

Foos probably figured this is industry standard - going to what has been posted above re concerts and vaxx checks - and when TCF said "yeah, how about no?" FFs pulled out.  "Sorry kids, they're not playing by our rules, no contract was ever inked....."

Can't sue for breach of contract if there was no contract. but you're right.  let's say that TCF, fast forwarding to Aug 2022, said "yeah, we're not doing COVID protocols, have a great show!"  FFs could sue for breach of contract.  Equally, let's say the Foos played one song and walked off the stage for no reason specified in the contract (safety of band/audience, illness, act of god), just, walked the fark off, the venue could sue for breach.  concerts usually have "artist agrees to perform with best and reasonable efforts for at least 90 minutes" (or whatever).

i was at a Jay Mohr comedy show years ago where jay had a so-so set.  Several times he'd tag a joke that fell flat with, "folks, that was a  way better joke than the reception it got, work with me here."  50 minutes in, i noticed him constantly checking his watch.  at about a literal 61, 62 minutes in, after him staring laser beams every 2 minutes at his watch, he goes, "alright, thanks, you've been great, g'night!"

said to my wife  - "did you notice him starting at his watch, and once he went over 60 minutes, he ended the show without really ...


Gotcha.  Thanks for the context!

So they ATTEMPTED to sign a contract but the venue didn't agree to the contract.  So there's really nothing to see here.  They're the foo fighters, they'll just go someplace else.
 
2021-12-01 8:50:07 AM  

jake3988: So they ATTEMPTED to sign a contract but the venue didn't agree to the contract.  So there's really nothing to see here.  They're the foo fighters, they'll just go someplace else.


It's been a while since I've been to the Twin Cities but I remember there being a smallish soccer stadium in St. Paul, another one in Blaine, and there's always the Vikings or Twins facilities in Minneapolis, plus 2 basketball/hockey arenas.
 
2021-12-01 2:12:41 PM  

steve_wmn: jake3988: So they ATTEMPTED to sign a contract but the venue didn't agree to the contract.  So there's really nothing to see here.  They're the foo fighters, they'll just go someplace else.

It's been a while since I've been to the Twin Cities but I remember there being a smallish soccer stadium in St. Paul, another one in Blaine, and there's always the Vikings or Twins facilities in Minneapolis, plus 2 basketball/hockey arenas.


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https://twitter.com/StPaulSaints/status/1465746090167259140
 
2021-12-01 8:51:12 PM  

question_dj: zeroman987: Tours pay the bills.  They gave up a lot of money to take this stand. Kudos

Such a bold move by a band of incredibly rich men.

Where are the articles about the smaller bands that did this very same thing, and actually needed the money?


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