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(Yahoo)   Pregnant Librarian killed in Road rage incident where she intentionally hit a man's motorcycle with her SUV, and drove off, the motorcyclist called the cops and followed her home, she pulled a gun, but he was also packing. Only one possible state   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2021-11-30 12:50:46 PM  
In before the Fark jump-to-conclusions brigade chimes in.

My predictions for this thread:

1. False assertion that the motorcyclist started it
2. Insistence that no normal person would follow a hit and run driver, so it must have been a biker gang
3. She was scared for her life, which somehow makes it ok to go home, get a gun, and point it at a person she hit with her car

Also predicted: a whole lot of nuh-uh from people who can't be bothered to read the article or quotes posted from the article.
 
2021-11-30 12:50:50 PM  
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2021-11-30 12:52:26 PM  
Here, this may save some of you some time

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2021-11-30 12:53:56 PM  
If that witness wasn't there, he'd be screwed.
 
2021-11-30 1:03:21 PM  
Pete, meet Repeat.
 
2021-11-30 1:04:41 PM  
Again?
 
2021-11-30 1:04:55 PM  
In related news, dozens of grammarians were killed in a TFH-reading incident.

/Also, wasn't this already covered? I vaguely remember seeing something similar. Between Fark repeats and Florida being Florida, it's hard to tell.
 
2021-11-30 1:08:13 PM  

Pinche Mateo: She was hungry or had to pee.


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2021-11-30 1:15:35 PM  

BretMavrik: /Also, wasn't this already covered?


Naw it's a daily event down there.
 
2021-11-30 1:17:34 PM  
Well, there was no way her kid was gonna turn out any better, so in a f*cked up sense this is a win for society.
 
2021-11-30 1:18:02 PM  
It's America.

Create the situation requiring self-defense, then claim self-defense.  It's the Zimmerman/Rittenhouse/etc. defense.

Dude was just dumb enough to shoot a pregnant woman, which is the only reason he might catch charges.
 
2021-11-30 1:18:12 PM  

Dave and the Mission: In before the Fark jump-to-conclusions brigade chimes in.

My predictions for this thread:

1. False assertion that the motorcyclist started it
2. Insistence that no normal person would follow a hit and run driver, so it must have been a biker gang
3. She was scared for her life, which somehow makes it ok to go home, get a gun, and point it at a person she hit with her car

Also predicted: a whole lot of nuh-uh from people who can't be bothered to read the article or quotes posted from the article.


Didn't we already have that thread back when this was news?
 
2021-11-30 1:18:40 PM  
so double homicide?  or was the baby okay?
 
2021-11-30 1:18:46 PM  

austerity101: Well, there was no way her kid was gonna turn out any better, so in a f*cked up sense this is a win for society.


That 5 month old fetus had it coming?

Huh.  That's a new one.
 
2021-11-30 1:19:01 PM  
Stupid assumption that will be made over and over in this thread: the concept that bikers are honest, upstanding citizens with no reason to lie, when most of the time it's the opposite that's true. Except when they're orthodontists of course, they take their evil out on their clients.
 
2021-11-30 1:19:24 PM  
Don't we all feel more polite now?
 
2021-11-30 1:20:13 PM  

Hyjamon: so double homicide?  or was the baby okay?


That baby was going to go down for felony murder anyway. it was there and did nothing to stop the crime.
 
2021-11-30 1:20:17 PM  
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2021-11-30 1:20:21 PM  
Dashcams people, or in the case of bikers, helmet cams. It makes it a lot easier to have incontrovertible proof of your claim. And in the case of a hit and run accident just say the plate letters and numbers out loud a few times and let the police and your insurance deal with it, no need to go after someone who obviously has no intention of following the law.
 
2021-11-30 1:20:27 PM  
Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It On FARK.
 
2021-11-30 1:20:35 PM  
I'm waiting for the "if the fetus had a gun" argument...
 
2021-11-30 1:21:07 PM  
Apparently, this happens more often than I realized.
 
2021-11-30 1:21:07 PM  

Dave and the Mission: Here, this may save some of you some time

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Never noticed it says "loose," not "lose."
 
2021-11-30 1:22:07 PM  

Dave and the Mission: 3. She was scared for her life, which somehow makes it ok to go home, get a gun, and point it at a person she hit with her car


That won't be an issue, if you kill someone they never have the opportunity to say they were scared.
 
2021-11-30 1:22:21 PM  
This again?

farked around, found out.

"OMG I just ran down this poor guy, better leave before I have to face consequences. OMG consequences, better threaten them with what I failed to do earlier, OMG I'm dead"
 
2021-11-30 1:22:23 PM  
It might have been a happier ending with moar gunz, it certainly couldn't hurt.
 
2021-11-30 1:22:40 PM  
I'm guessing the motorcyclist is white, given the cops didn't shoot first and ask questions later?
 
2021-11-30 1:22:57 PM  

bthom37: It's America.

Create the situation requiring self-defense, then claim self-defense.  It's the Zimmerman/Rittenhouse/etc. defense.

Dude was just dumb enough to shoot a pregnant woman, which is the only reason he might catch charges.


I need to see what the confrontation at the house was like.  If he followed her there and was waiting for the police, in my book that's okay.  If he's banging on the door, that's different.

And for f's sake, if someone follows you to your house and you are afraid don't go outside.  Stay inside and wait for the police.  

And that's all assuming we are getting an honest account.  The problem with homicide is only one side gets to tell their story.

Welcome to the polite society the gun enthusiasts have been promising us.
 
2021-11-30 1:24:51 PM  
FL-  Not even once.
 
2021-11-30 1:25:01 PM  
Hey subby. This could have also happened in Texas.
 
2021-11-30 1:25:46 PM  
Road rage is the stupidest thing to engage in.  The risk vs. reward ratio is terrible.  How do you even win at road rage?  Your outcomes range from nothing to getting beat up to crashing your car to death.  There is zero positive outcome available to you.
 
2021-11-30 1:25:48 PM  
This is either a repeat or there's a nationwide battle brewing between armed bikers and armed and pregnant librarians.
 
2021-11-30 1:25:59 PM  

HoratioGates: bthom37: It's America.

Create the situation requiring self-defense, then claim self-defense.  It's the Zimmerman/Rittenhouse/etc. defense.

Dude was just dumb enough to shoot a pregnant woman, which is the only reason he might catch charges.

I need to see what the confrontation at the house was like.  If he followed her there and was waiting for the police, in my book that's okay.  If he's banging on the door, that's different.

And for f's sake, if someone follows you to your house and you are afraid don't go outside.  Stay inside and wait for the police.  

And that's all assuming we are getting an honest account.  The problem with homicide is only one side gets to tell their story.

Welcome to the polite society the gun enthusiasts have been promising us.


It clearly works. I don't see the asshole who hit then pulled a gun on a biker even being rude to people anymore, and she's certainly no longer a monster who endangers others.
 
2021-11-30 1:26:12 PM  
Is this a Tim Dorsey or Carl Hiaasen novel?
 
2021-11-30 1:26:19 PM  
Don't mess with people on motorcycles. They already have a death wish.
 
2021-11-30 1:26:19 PM  

khitsicker: Hey subby. This could have also happened in Texas.


If it were Texas, the biker would be facing a private lawsuit from a witness for helping the dead woman abort her baby.
 
2021-11-30 1:28:19 PM  
I'll jump.  If you force a confrontation instead of calling the cops to the address you are a guilty of overstepping your rights to self defense.  Please don't cry when this asshole fries.
 
2021-11-30 1:28:50 PM  

Dave and the Mission: In before the Fark jump-to-conclusions brigade chimes in.

My predictions for this thread:

1. False assertion that the motorcyclist started it
2. Insistence that no normal person would follow a hit and run driver, so it must have been a biker gang
3. She was scared for her life, which somehow makes it ok to go home, get a gun, and point it at a person she hit with her car

Also predicted: a whole lot of nuh-uh from people who can't be bothered to read the article or quotes posted from the article.


Not a clear winner in this incident.
There was an obvious loser.

Be interesting if the castle doctrine gets used by the DA to go after the shooter.
 
2021-11-30 1:28:53 PM  

emersonbiggins: [Fark user image 469x634]


Boebert dressed as a nun, on the back of a gay man in a FL swamp beating a flamingo with a violin bow? That makes more sense than she's ever made herself.
 
2021-11-30 1:28:59 PM  

Dave and the Mission: In before the Fark jump-to-conclusions brigade chimes in.

My predictions for this thread:

1. False assertion that the motorcyclist started it
2. Insistence that no normal person would follow a hit and run driver, so it must have been a biker gang
3. She was scared for her life, which somehow makes it ok to go home, get a gun, and point it at a person she hit with her car

Also predicted: a whole lot of nuh-uh from people who can't be bothered to read the article or quotes posted from the article.



Um, Nuh-uh.
 
2021-11-30 1:29:44 PM  

bthom37: austerity101: Well, there was no way her kid was gonna turn out any better, so in a f*cked up sense this is a win for society.

That 5 month old fetus had it coming?

Huh.  That's a new one.


Not really. Abortion proponents are quick to point out that abortion may have severely decreased the crime rate by culling undesirables.
 
2021-11-30 1:30:25 PM  

capt.snicklefritz: This is either a repeat or there's a nationwide battle brewing between armed bikers and armed and pregnant librarians.


That would make a great movie.
 
2021-11-30 1:30:27 PM  

Lambskincoat: emersonbiggins: [Fark user image 469x634]

Boebert dressed as a nun, on the back of a gay man in a FL swamp beating a flamingo with a violin bow? That makes more sense than she's ever made herself.


The day I recognize someone in one of these magazines is the day I've cared too much. Flown too close to the sun.
 
2021-11-30 1:31:06 PM  

Dave and the Mission: In before the Fark jump-to-conclusions brigade chimes in.

My predictions for this thread:

1. False assertion that the motorcyclist started it
2. Insistence that no normal person would follow a hit and run driver, so it must have been a biker gang
3. She was scared for her life, which somehow makes it ok to go home, get a gun, and point it at a person she hit with her car

Also predicted: a whole lot of nuh-uh from people who can't be bothered to read the article or quotes posted from the article.


they have witnesses that confirm she started the incident.
 
2021-11-30 1:31:17 PM  

bthom37: austerity101: Well, there was no way her kid was gonna turn out any better, so in a f*cked up sense this is a win for society.

That 5 month old fetus had it coming?

Huh.  That's a new one.


Point to where that's what I said.
 
2021-11-30 1:31:33 PM  

maxandgrinch: Is this a Tim Dorsey or Carl Hiaasen novel?


This was far too simple for a Tim Dorsey novel.
 
2021-11-30 1:31:38 PM  
Here we go again.
 
2021-11-30 1:32:22 PM  
People are gonna argue about who was justified but miss the bigger point: this is what happens when everyone has a gun.  Nobody is more polite, but every hostile encounter or disagreement becomes more frightening and more potentially deadly.  The 2nd Amendment gun strokers want us to live in the wild west, it's f*cking insane.
 
2021-11-30 1:32:56 PM  

Kit Fister: Dave and the Mission: In before the Fark jump-to-conclusions brigade chimes in.

My predictions for this thread:

1. False assertion that the motorcyclist started it
2. Insistence that no normal person would follow a hit and run driver, so it must have been a biker gang
3. She was scared for her life, which somehow makes it ok to go home, get a gun, and point it at a person she hit with her car

Also predicted: a whole lot of nuh-uh from people who can't be bothered to read the article or quotes posted from the article.

they have witnesses that confirm she started the incident.


Other than the gunman's biker buddy?
 
2021-11-30 1:33:02 PM  
World war 2 was really polite, idiots.
 
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