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2021-11-30 11:51:04 AM  
Solution: Burn a shiatty sirloin for him. He'll never know the difference.
 
2021-11-30 11:51:06 AM  
An uncivilized palate is not a good reason for a fight at the dinner table. There are better reasons than that to hate folks.
 
2021-11-30 11:54:25 AM  

Lambskincoat: An uncivilized palate is not a good reason for a fight at the dinner table. There are better reasons than that to hate folks.


Definitely, but if he then put ketchup on the steak all bets are off
 
2021-11-30 11:55:11 AM  
Removing heathens from future dinner gatherings is going to be an overall positive. People that want their steak burnt also cheat at golf and other things. It is a sign of a disturbed person.
 
2021-11-30 11:59:42 AM  

eurotrader: Removing heathens from future dinner gatherings is going to be an overall positive. People that want their steak burnt also cheat at golf and other things. It is a sign of a disturbed person.


Orange you right about that, too.
 
2021-11-30 12:12:58 PM  
Hey, more steak for everyone else!  Win-win!
 
2021-11-30 12:15:36 PM  
I can understand not wanting to cook an expensive steak well done. But there wasn't any reason to not let her microwave it. The host is definitely the asshole in this story.
 
2021-11-30 12:26:03 PM  
I'm glad the dogs got their steak.
 
2021-11-30 12:32:12 PM  
Meh.  Leave it uneaten, then take it home and cook it properly.
 
2021-11-30 12:33:17 PM  
We ask them politely but firmly to leave.
 
2021-11-30 12:38:45 PM  
Cooking it well done does actually toughen it up a bit, but you can get some of the moisture and natural flavors if you use Heinz A1 sauce. It really kicks that wagyu up to the next level.
 
2021-11-30 1:26:13 PM  
It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.
 
2021-11-30 1:30:42 PM  
She proceeded to get angry and yell that it was her steak and she should have it how she liked. I told her that there were plenty of other meats to choose from as well as a plethora of side-dishes that she could have but her steak was not being made well-done in my house. She said, "farking asshole." Then she got up and started to stick the steak in the microwave. I shot up and grabbed it out of her hand first at which point half of the steak fell onto the ground. My dogs quickly got to it to which I said, "Well, at least it went to someone who wouldn't shiat on a good steak." From there, there was definitely tension from that end of the table. They ate a little bit then hurriedly left.

I don't believe any of this.  I can get with the "i'm not cooking Wagyu well done" part, but, what kind of sociopath says, at a Friendsgiving, "farking asshole" to a complete stranger, and then, he grabs the steak out of her hand?  no, that's ....no.  didn't happen.
 
2021-11-30 1:45:00 PM  
This man is my hero for having the balls to stand his ground and refuse. But he loses points for regretting his decision.

You made the right move. Never look back.
 
2021-11-30 1:45:22 PM  

Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.


The sous vide made clear the cook is a pompous arse. He is a terrible host as well. Asking for a burnt steak also outs a person as a bad guest and likely a disturbed person that good people should not invite again anyway.
It does take me about an hour and a half to make steaks, but that is only because allowing beef to get to room temperature and letting the salt and pepper do their job takes a hour on the counter. The actual cooking and letting a steak rest is around 20 minutes.
 
2021-11-30 1:45:36 PM  

Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.


He bought it at a discount from the guy who got it as a gift.

More to the point, why are you cooking a tender steak for 4-5 hours in the sous vide?  Doesn't that make it a little mushy?  I do mine for about 90 minutes (but then, I'm doing it to 132).
 
2021-11-30 1:55:56 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.

He bought it at a discount from the guy who got it as a gift.

More to the point, why are you cooking a tender steak for 4-5 hours in the sous vide?  Doesn't that make it a little mushy?  I do mine for about 90 minutes (but then, I'm doing it to 132).


I got a Vulcan electric salamander a few years ago at a restaurant auction. It is awesome for steaks or anything that needs to be seared and far easier than lighting up the hardwood charcoal grill.
 
2021-11-30 1:57:09 PM  
Okay...what if it was a 300 dollar bottle of Jack Daniels. And she gets up to mix it with a diet coke?
 
2021-11-30 1:59:51 PM  
He didn't buy it for $120.

Tell her to ruin the steak herself if you can't bear to do it. "Problem" solved.
 
2021-11-30 2:04:27 PM  
If he gave advance warning of how one wanted their steak cooked, she ignored it only to raise hell thereafter when it was displayed, that's on her.

His friends are both being farking Karens.
 
2021-11-30 2:05:06 PM  

eurotrader: Benevolent Misanthrope: Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.

He bought it at a discount from the guy who got it as a gift.

More to the point, why are you cooking a tender steak for 4-5 hours in the sous vide?  Doesn't that make it a little mushy?  I do mine for about 90 minutes (but then, I'm doing it to 132).

I got a Vulcan electric salamander a few years ago at a restaurant auction. It is awesome for steaks or anything that needs to be seared and far easier than lighting up the hardwood charcoal grill.


OMG, I'm so jealous.  I've priced out restaurant equipment here for when I build my dream house, and all I can say is that my kitchen equipment will cost more than the rest of the house, probably.
 
2021-11-30 2:05:23 PM  

rickythepenguin: She proceeded to get angry and yell that it was her steak and she should have it how she liked. I told her that there were plenty of other meats to choose from as well as a plethora of side-dishes that she could have but her steak was not being made well-done in my house. She said, "farking asshole." Then she got up and started to stick the steak in the microwave. I shot up and grabbed it out of her hand first at which point half of the steak fell onto the ground. My dogs quickly got to it to which I said, "Well, at least it went to someone who wouldn't shiat on a good steak." From there, there was definitely tension from that end of the table. They ate a little bit then hurriedly left.

I don't believe any of this.  I can get with the "i'm not cooking Wagyu well done" part, but, what kind of sociopath says, at a Friendsgiving, "farking asshole" to a complete stranger, and then, he grabs the steak out of her hand?  no, that's ....no.  didn't happen.


Jesus Christ... I really need to read these links more
 
2021-11-30 2:05:58 PM  

eurotrader: Removing heathens from future dinner gatherings is going to be an overall positive. People that want their steak burnt also cheat at golf and other things. It is a sign of a disturbed person.


Well done steak seems...to kill what makes a steak a steak.  I like my burgers well done but steak is a different prospect.
 
2021-11-30 2:06:18 PM  

eurotrader: Benevolent Misanthrope: Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.

He bought it at a discount from the guy who got it as a gift.

More to the point, why are you cooking a tender steak for 4-5 hours in the sous vide?  Doesn't that make it a little mushy?  I do mine for about 90 minutes (but then, I'm doing it to 132).

I got a Vulcan electric salamander a few years ago at a restaurant auction. It is awesome for steaks or anything that needs to be seared and far easier than lighting up the hardwood charcoal grill.


Sous Vide is for lesser cuts of meat. It does do well for turning 'wal mart' quality meats tender.
But frankly, it's not for steaks. It's for things you'd normally cook long and slow...or for meal prep.

I'll sear off some steaks just to color them up...and freeze and bag them. Then do the water bath at 130. to 'defrost' them when I get home. They won't get any more done than 130. (med/rare). Some herbs and butter in the bag make it pretty quick for a 'fark it' freezer meal. Sliced carrots, honey, dill, and butter also work very very well in the 'boil and bag' temp controlled sous vide tech.
 
2021-11-30 2:07:58 PM  
If I were in the host's shoes I'd say "It's my wagyu or the highguay."

Everyone would find it so adorable that they would lift me up on their shoulders and cheer as if I'd just won the big game.

Then I would say, "These shoes are really tight, I probably should have brought a pair of my own."

Then we would all bang and be thankful for the bounty of booty.  Then we would read selections from "The Pilgrim's Progress" until we fell violently ill due to the hamfisted allegory.
 
2021-11-30 2:09:48 PM  

brap: If I were in the host's shoes I'd say "It's my wagyu or the highguay."

Everyone would find it so adorable that they would lift me up on their shoulders and cheer as if I'd just won the big game.

Then I would say, "These shoes are really tight, I probably should have brought a pair of my own."

Then we would all bang and be thankful for the bounty of booty.  Then we would read selections from "The Pilgrim's Progress" until we fell violently ill due to the hamfisted allegory.


Hamfisting is more of a Christmas or Easter tradition.
 
2021-11-30 2:10:36 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: eurotrader: Benevolent Misanthrope: Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.

He bought it at a discount from the guy who got it as a gift.

More to the point, why are you cooking a tender steak for 4-5 hours in the sous vide?  Doesn't that make it a little mushy?  I do mine for about 90 minutes (but then, I'm doing it to 132).

I got a Vulcan electric salamander a few years ago at a restaurant auction. It is awesome for steaks or anything that needs to be seared and far easier than lighting up the hardwood charcoal grill.

OMG, I'm so jealous.  I've priced out restaurant equipment here for when I build my dream house, and all I can say is that my kitchen equipment will cost more than the rest of the house, probably.


Watch for restaurant auctions. Only about 1 in 5 restaurants make it 5 years and some buy very good equipment to start that will sell for less than half of original cost. Being able to inspect or a person that knows what to look at before auction is important. A convection oven is worth it if you want to bake like a pro.
 
2021-11-30 2:13:00 PM  

eurotrader: A convection oven is worth it if you want to bake like a pro.


OR.....wait for it......wait....AN ANOVA STEAM OVEN.
 
2021-11-30 2:17:25 PM  
Calm down there Chef Todd.

/ yes their parents named them all Todd.
 
2021-11-30 2:30:11 PM  
I'll take "things that never happened" for $500, Alex.
 
2021-11-30 2:33:24 PM  

eurotrader: Benevolent Misanthrope: eurotrader: Benevolent Misanthrope: Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.

He bought it at a discount from the guy who got it as a gift.

More to the point, why are you cooking a tender steak for 4-5 hours in the sous vide?  Doesn't that make it a little mushy?  I do mine for about 90 minutes (but then, I'm doing it to 132).

I got a Vulcan electric salamander a few years ago at a restaurant auction. It is awesome for steaks or anything that needs to be seared and far easier than lighting up the hardwood charcoal grill.

OMG, I'm so jealous.  I've priced out restaurant equipment here for when I build my dream house, and all I can say is that my kitchen equipment will cost more than the rest of the house, probably.

Watch for restaurant auctions. Only about 1 in 5 restaurants make it 5 years and some buy very good equipment to start that will sell for less than half of original cost. Being able to inspect or a person that knows what to look at before auction is important. A convection oven is worth it if you want to bake like a pro.


Yeah, we're a tiny town in the middle of nowhere, so restaurants just change hands but the equipment stays in the same place. If I ever move back to a city, though, that's the plan.
 
2021-11-30 2:45:42 PM  

JessieL: Solution: Burn a shiatty sirloin skirt steak for him. He'll never know the difference.


Only because that's even cheaper than sirloin.
 
2021-11-30 2:48:01 PM  
More like "Area man proves he's a colossal douchebag." (If this story was real at least, which it's not)
 
2021-11-30 2:48:43 PM  
we ask them politely yet firmly to leave
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2021-11-30 2:50:22 PM  
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I'm of the same mind as previous posts, this event did not occur.
 
2021-11-30 2:57:09 PM  

Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.


exactly.  you're not bobby flay, you're with your friends. your friend likes their steak well done, who cares?

when someone makes me a steak, now, personally i wouldn't say anything regardless of how its cooked.  but despite farks love of eating everything while its still grazing in the field, lots of people don't like pink/bloody meat just because it bothers them.  And thats okay, you don't need to convince them that they're stupid or castigate them because of it.
 
2021-11-30 3:01:34 PM  
I would have bought just one shiatty steak, just in case you got complaints like this, and if someone requested anything more than medium, they'd get some of that steak, 'cos like hell I'm gonna completely waste a ridiculously expensive cut of A5, even if I did get it at a discount.  You don't ruin an ultra-premium cut of meat like that.
 
2021-11-30 3:02:11 PM  
King of the Hill - How To Grill a Steak
Youtube amKyA2PrSu4
 
2021-11-30 3:05:27 PM  
A Fark link to an article on Indy about a Reddit post.

Trifecta!
 
2021-11-30 3:08:45 PM  
Who gives a shiat on who is right or wrong...BUT I have never attended any sort of dinner at someone's house and complained about the food at all. Eat some of what you don't like and more of other shiat. Problem solved. Both parties overreacted but it is much worse etiquette to "overrule" the cook. Steak not done enough, apologize politely and just more of the other stuff, admitting that your tastes are not the norm. How farkin' hard is that? I've lost count of the times, for example, that people overcook salmon. It's dry and flavorless but, fark it, they invited me for dinner and I eat it. It's not like you are paying for the meal for Keerist's sake.
 
2021-11-30 3:12:38 PM  

phedex: Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.

exactly.  you're not bobby flay, you're with your friends. your friend likes their steak well done, who cares?

when someone makes me a steak, now, personally i wouldn't say anything regardless of how its cooked.  but despite farks love of eating everything while its still grazing in the field, lots of people don't like pink/bloody meat just because it bothers them.  And thats okay, you don't need to convince them that they're stupid or castigate them because of it.


It is important to be a welcoming host.  But, I won't burn a good steak for anyone.   If I know it's someone who likes steal ala Trump, I would buy a cheaper cut for them.

It took me a few years to get my husband away from more fully cooked steaks, prime rib, etc.  He'll never go blue, but when he's grilling he very thoughtfully puts my steak on much later.  But now at least his is dark pink in the center.  Good boy.

Like someone above said, how would you feel is you spent a couple hundred bucks or more on a good bottle of booze only to have a guest want some soda pop to dilute it.   Barbarians.***

***Several years ago at a family gathering, I awoke to the teenagers sneaking liquor.  What woke me up was them complaining that they were out of 7-Up to mix with the scotch.   I think I was more appalled at that then them actually sneaking booze.   All I could think to say was "farking Amateurs" and something about hoping they would be puking soon.
 
2021-11-30 3:22:45 PM  
I just read a story with an 8-year-old ESL student about a party host who sent a guest away for not being dressed well enough.

The kid had to tell the lesson of the story and said, guests should say please and thank you, and a host should make guests feel welcome.
 
2021-11-30 3:27:42 PM  

eurotrader: Pocket Ninja: It was not a $120 cut of steak, it was given as a gift. That means it cost nothing, and the "chef" is an asshole.

Also:

The average steak for me takes about 4-5 hours to prepare and cook from the sous vide to the cast iron,

Means you're a shiatty cook, not a perfectionist.

The sous vide made clear the cook is a pompous arse. He is a terrible host as well. Asking for a burnt steak also outs a person as a bad guest and likely a disturbed person that good people should not invite again anyway.
It does take me about an hour and a half to make steaks, but that is only because allowing beef to get to room temperature and letting the salt and pepper do their job takes a hour on the counter. The actual cooking and letting a steak rest is around 20 minutes.


Letting the steak get to room temperature before cooking is a pointless waste of time
 
2021-11-30 3:29:53 PM  

optikeye: Okay...what if it was a 300 dollar bottle of Jack Daniels. And she gets up to mix it with a diet coke?


If it's Jack Daniels then she's wasting perfectly good coca cola by blending it with that garbage.
 
2021-11-30 3:34:11 PM  

KB202: I just read a story with an 8-year-old ESL student about a party host who sent a guest away for not being dressed well enough.

The kid had to tell the lesson of the story and said, guests should say please and thank you, and a host should make guests feel welcome.


Mad props to you for doing that. Seriously. You rock.
 
2021-11-30 3:38:13 PM  

optikeye: Okay...what if it was a 300 dollar bottle of Jack Daniels. And she gets up to mix it with a diet coke?


Jack Daniels is swill.
 
2021-11-30 3:44:21 PM  

mathamagical: Letting the steak get to room temperature before cooking is a pointless waste of time


This.  Don't know why you got a funny for that.  I mean it doesn't hurt anything by leaving it out, but it doesn't help anything either.  I think ATK has even rigorously tested steaks straight from the freezer with great results.


Psychopusher: 'cos like hell I'm gonna completely waste a ridiculously expensive cut of A5


But how is it wasting it if the person actually eats it?  Who farking cares if they don't like your preferred doneness?  If you're cooking steaks you should expect varied preferences of doneness.  So instead of being a pretentious twat, simply cook to their preference.  Unless of course they're being difficult as it's a two way street.  But cooking the steak a bit longer isn't a tall order.
 
2021-11-30 3:47:09 PM  
I side with the host/cook.   There plenty of other options for the woman in question to eat and assuming her boy friend bothered to show he the menu/ Invite mentioned in the article and she bothered to do more than glance at it she should have known.

Waygu should never be cooked well done or it ruined the whole point of the fat content.
 
2021-11-30 3:52:41 PM  
Yeah, this didn't happen. No one who knows beef would try to serve A5 Wagyu ribeye as full-size, 2" thick steaks. You eat 3-4 oz, that's it. The richness is overwhelming. And it's so fatty that medium is the ideal cooking temp, to properly melt the fat.

(And y'all cooking your steaks to 130 and calling it medium rare are wrong. That's overdone.)
 
2021-11-30 3:53:33 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: But how is it wasting it if the person actually eats it?  Who farking cares if they don't like your preferred doneness?  If you're cooking steaks you should expect varied preferences of doneness.  So instead of being a pretentious twat, simply cook to their preference.  Unless of course they're being difficult as it's a two way street.  But cooking the steak a bit longer isn't a tall order.



It's like putting Chanel no.5 in your furnace instead of fuel oil. It'll burn, but you could have gotten the same result with a cheaper option and let the expensive stuff be appreciated in a way the fuel oil can't.
 
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