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2021-11-30 12:23:47 PM  
It's Hawkeye.  I don't think it was ever going to do Loki or Mando numbers out of the gate.  I liked it, though.  I also think positive word of mouth will get people watching it as the series approaches its conclusion and afterward.
 
2021-11-30 12:24:52 PM  
It's good so far. Not great, but good.

The thing I like the most about it is the stakes are much lower. Nobody's saving the universe or world here, it's a story with more down to Earth stakes. I don't expect the usual "big sky beam" in the finale. In fact, I suspect part of the reason I like it is due to those lower stakes. If the world/universe needs saving every 10 minutes it 'ain't going to last long and that shiat gets old.

It's just kinda cute. Not bad, but not as good as the previous MCU TV shows, which IMHO have all been varying degrees of fantastic.

Skip it if you want to, but if you're in the mood for some MCU that won't end in some cataclysm and is just fun and relatively relaxed then go for it.
 
2021-11-30 12:27:21 PM  
People are getting a bit tired of superheroes.
 
2021-11-30 12:28:04 PM  

mongbiohazard: The thing I like the most about it is the stakes are much lower. Nobody's saving the universe or world here, it's a story with more down to Earth stakes. I don't expect the usual "big sky beam" in the finale. In fact, I suspect part of the reason I like it is due to those lower stakes. If the world/universe needs saving every 10 minutes it 'ain't going to last long and that shiat gets old.


It's like a Netflix series that never happened.  Except, with actually decent pacing in each episode.
 
2021-11-30 12:28:30 PM  
Between this and Arcane on Netflix, Hailey Steinfeld is huge this season.
 
2021-11-30 12:33:05 PM  
My husband watched the first two episodes. He is not going to watch any more until the rest of the series is available in full because while he liked what he saw he feels that it is definitely a show that needs to be binged.
 
2021-11-30 12:34:16 PM  
I liked the discussion about branding, where Kate Bishop argued that people now want positivity and role models, not tortured dark and brooding anti heroes. I think that's true, people are tired of grimdark stuff, they see it as the empty nihilism it pretends it's not
 
2021-11-30 12:34:47 PM  

NeoCortex42: It's Hawkeye.  I don't think it was ever going to do Loki or Mando numbers out of the gate.  I liked it, though.  I also think positive word of mouth will get people watching it as the series approaches its conclusion and afterward.


Yeah, who would have guessed that the least interesting Avenger would draw less interest than other Avengers.
 
2021-11-30 12:36:22 PM  

WhippingBoi: People are getting a bit tired of superheroes.


I'm sure there is some of that...there will be no shortage of snobby Farkers shortly proclaiming the same thing.

I haven't had the chance yet is all.  My wife and I enjoy the Marvel action and though there are some I don't appreciate as much as others there is a lot of enjoyment to be had.  All the more if I ignore RT scores and snobby Farkers
 
2021-11-30 12:37:10 PM  

mongbiohazard: It's good so far. Not great, but good.

The thing I like the most about it is the stakes are much lower. Nobody's saving the universe or world here, it's a story with more down to Earth stakes. I don't expect the usual "big sky beam" in the finale. In fact, I suspect part of the reason I like it is due to those lower stakes. If the world/universe needs saving every 10 minutes it 'ain't going to last long and that shiat gets old.

It's just kinda cute. Not bad, but not as good as the previous MCU TV shows, which IMHO have all been varying degrees of fantastic.

Skip it if you want to, but if you're in the mood for some MCU that won't end in some cataclysm and is just fun and relatively relaxed then go for it.


Exactly...I mean they are building a limited series around a guy who said : "The City Is Flying, We're Fighting An Army Of Robots, And I Have A Bow And Arrow. None Of This Makes Sense."

I do like the fact that <spolier> he has hearing loss. It's honestly makes sense that this guy has been around all these explosions that he has some type of trauma.
 
2021-11-30 12:44:52 PM  
*sighs heavily*  This Damn WAR!!!
 
2021-11-30 12:44:58 PM  

skyotter: Between this and Arcane on Netflix, Hailey Steinfeld is huge this season.


Deservedly so, she's an amazing actor, I wish she was out there more.
 
2021-11-30 12:50:13 PM  
Its not that Hockloogie is especially boring. I watched the first minute of the first episode and I instantly could see that the point was to watch rich people talk in boring voices, until finally there would be a little action. TV is just TV.
 
2021-11-30 12:51:13 PM  
my big knock on it so far is that the episodes are way too short. After the 5 minute intro/synopsis and the 10 minute credits, you're looking at around a half hour show. Just when each episode felt like it was getting started, the credits rolled
 
2021-11-30 12:52:47 PM  
The tone is inconsistent and the fighting is pretty silly bad. Hit Monkey is done so much better even it is only animated.
 
2021-11-30 12:59:41 PM  

eagles95: I do like the fact that <spolier> he has hearing loss. It's honestly makes sense that this guy has been around all these explosions that he has some type of trauma.


I agree 100%. Details like that make the world feel more lived in and less cartoony - something important when talking about superhero shiat with space gods and stuff.

Hawkeye, at the least the first two episodes so far, is good. It's not Loki good, but it's still plenty good. A pretty, chill-ish, show for the holidays.
 
2021-11-30 1:29:29 PM  
A lot of people wait until the season is over so they can binge them.

I thought the 1st 2 episodes were fantastic.  Can't wait to see where this is going.
 
2021-11-30 1:38:25 PM  

WhippingBoi: People are getting a bit tired of superheroes.


Maybe, but what's that got to do with really-good-at-archery guy?
 
2021-11-30 1:42:05 PM  
Where's Loki part 2?
 
2021-11-30 1:43:53 PM  

WhippingBoi: People are getting a bit tired of superheroes.


No. That's not why.

People might be, but this didn't do as well because people are less locked down/stay at homey now.  I bet Disney+ viewership as a whole is probably slightly down too.

Also, its a less essential property for Marvel.  They certainly didn't marketer it as hard.  There's more other content out now too.  Loki came out during a content vacuum.  Not that it didn't deserve its praise and audience, because it did, but people got hooked easier because of less other distractions.
 
2021-11-30 1:59:47 PM  

skyotter: Between this and Arcane on Netflix, Hailey Steinfeld is huge this season.


Also Dickerson.

/has it been said she's underrated?
 
2021-11-30 2:19:44 PM  
I just watched all of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier yesterday. If that's the level of scriptwriting and production, I'm pretty sure I'll love Hawkeye.
 
2021-11-30 2:44:47 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: skyotter: Between this and Arcane on Netflix, Hailey Steinfeld is huge this season.

Also Dickerson.


Dickinson is really good, I like how that show and The Great use language and tone to put modern twists on what can be a stilted genre. [1]

I watched the 1st two eps of Hawkeye and found them to be very entertaining. My expectations of the fight scenes weren't that they be super-realistic (I mean come on, this is the MCU where the laws of physics aren't really applied), but I was hoping they'd keep Hawkeye's story revolving around his family life, since he's (IMHO) the most normal human amongst the Avengers. So far, it's Mission Accomplished.


1. Totes stole this description from a year-old Variety article.
 
2021-11-30 2:51:43 PM  
I never read Young Avengers but think Hawkeye is pretty good so far. I like this and Loki better than any of the Netflix stuff, because they actually remember these are comics properties. Tapped out pretty early on FaTWS though, maybe I'll give it another shot.
 
2021-11-30 2:52:54 PM  

mongbiohazard: It's good so far. Not great, but good.

The thing I like the most about it is the stakes are much lower. Nobody's saving the universe or world here, it's a story with more down to Earth stakes. I don't expect the usual "big sky beam" in the finale. In fact, I suspect part of the reason I like it is due to those lower stakes. If the world/universe needs saving every 10 minutes it 'ain't going to last long and that shiat gets old.

It's just kinda cute. Not bad, but not as good as the previous MCU TV shows, which IMHO have all been varying degrees of fantastic.

Skip it if you want to, but if you're in the mood for some MCU that won't end in some cataclysm and is just fun and relatively relaxed then go for it.


This.

It reminds me somewhat of Falcon & The Winter Solider - which I really enjoyed. They both deal with earth-bound, human problems, emotions, consequences, and the passing of the torch.
 
2021-11-30 2:56:54 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: skyotter: Between this and Arcane on Netflix, Hailey Steinfeld is huge this season.

Also Dickerson.

/has it been said she's underrated?


Is it weird I now know enough about her to know her name has this annoying double ee thing instead of a y?

I want to mock her for that, but I actually can't.  She didn't pick that, anymore than she did her last name sounding like "Seinfeld", and I've been truly impressed by her acting and screen charisma.
 
2021-11-30 2:57:48 PM  

mofa: I just watched all of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier yesterday. If that's the level of scriptwriting and production, I'm pretty sure I'll love Hawkeye.


I think Falcon/WS was good, but had some issues.  Some of the subplots felt undercooked.  There's been some theorizing that a big subplot about a disease outbreak was trimmed for obvious reasons.  Hawkeye, although it's still early on, feels stronger than Falcon/WS was.  Or at least like it will be more focused.

I would totally watch a Bucky and Falcon boat repair show though.  The non-action buddy stuff with them was perfect.
 
2021-11-30 3:00:08 PM  

NeoCortex42: mofa: I just watched all of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier yesterday. If that's the level of scriptwriting and production, I'm pretty sure I'll love Hawkeye.

I think Falcon/WS was good, but had some issues.  Some of the subplots felt undercooked.  There's been some theorizing that a big subplot about a disease outbreak was trimmed for obvious reasons.  Hawkeye, although it's still early on, feels stronger than Falcon/WS was.  Or at least like it will be more focused.

I would totally watch a Bucky and Falcon boat repair show though.  The non-action buddy stuff with them was perfect.


Falcon WS kind of bored me, outside of the big action parts.

Hawkeye has less action, so far, but a lot more charm.
 
2021-11-30 3:03:37 PM  

NeoCortex42: mofa: I just watched all of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier yesterday. If that's the level of scriptwriting and production, I'm pretty sure I'll love Hawkeye.

I think Falcon/WS was good, but had some issues.  Some of the subplots felt undercooked.  There's been some theorizing that a big subplot about a disease outbreak was trimmed for obvious reasons.  Hawkeye, although it's still early on, feels stronger than Falcon/WS was.  Or at least like it will be more focused.

I would totally watch a Bucky and Falcon boat repair show though.  The non-action buddy stuff with them was perfect.


This.
 
2021-11-30 3:06:40 PM  

Kris_Romm: NeoCortex42: mofa: I just watched all of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier yesterday. If that's the level of scriptwriting and production, I'm pretty sure I'll love Hawkeye.

I think Falcon/WS was good, but had some issues.  Some of the subplots felt undercooked.  There's been some theorizing that a big subplot about a disease outbreak was trimmed for obvious reasons.  Hawkeye, although it's still early on, feels stronger than Falcon/WS was.  Or at least like it will be more focused.

I would totally watch a Bucky and Falcon boat repair show though.  The non-action buddy stuff with them was perfect.

Falcon WS kind of bored me, outside of the big action parts.

Hawkeye has less action, so far, but a lot more charm.


The big action parts were good, and the buddy hang-out bits were good.  Most of the plot was mediocre.  I feel like more could have been done with Bradley or more could have been done to develop the Flagsmashers.  As it is, it was incredibly fine.  I don't think it was bad at all, but I do think it didn't quite live up to its potential.

I'm definitely looking forward to Cap 4 though and what they do with the character going forward.
 
2021-11-30 3:13:23 PM  
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2021-11-30 3:20:56 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: skyotter: Between this and Arcane on Netflix, Hailey Steinfeld is huge this season.

Also Dickerson.

/has it been said she's underrated?


Just remembered, she was Gwen Stacey in Into the Spider-Verse too, back in the before the pandemic times.  Not a huge role, but like with Kathryn Hahn, it certainly got her noticed by Disney.
 
2021-11-30 3:25:57 PM  

mofa: I just watched all of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier yesterday. If that's the level of scriptwriting and production, I'm pretty sure I'll love Hawkeye.


Personally I would say to temper your expectations a little. It is good, but I don't think it's as good as FandWS. But that was also a more serious show, touching on some weighty subjects, and Hawkeye is much more light-hearted. The story is much smaller and more personal in scope.

Hawkeye, so far for the two episodes that are out, is just about Hawkeye trying to spend a little time with his kids - trying to catch up for all the time lost to the blip and other stuff he was busy dealing with - and a young lady who looks likely to be his protege soon. That's it. No government conspiracies, no Hydra, no alien invaders. Street-level thugs and a young lady who needs guidance. Very different show.
 
2021-11-30 3:27:27 PM  

WhippingBoi: People are getting a bit tired of superheroes.


At least until the next Spider-Man movie comes out.
 
2021-11-30 3:30:27 PM  

skyotter: Between this and Arcane on Netflix, Hailey Steinfeld is huge this season.


She should try doing a comedy show about nothing. I bet it would be a big hit, and then completely dismissed a decade or two later.
 
2021-11-30 3:36:52 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: She should try doing a comedy show about nothing. I bet it would be a big hit, and then completely dismissed a decade or two later.


Seinfeld Noise
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Predictable joke.  Lol.
 
2021-11-30 4:13:25 PM  
I like it.  It is surprisingly self aware and the actress they have in the lead is fantastic for that character.  She gives me that "Jessica Jones" vibe, and I like it.

/ Fark you and your phrasing
 
2021-11-30 5:27:40 PM  
They should team her up with Iron Monger.
 
2021-11-30 5:47:53 PM  
I'm enjoying it. I dig how it leans into the whole "lamest avenger" thing and has a bit of a lighter tone. The stakes seem about right too. Not every show/movie needs a world ending sky-hole.

Even the worst of the MCU shows are better than either season of Iron Fist, though I did like psycho-Faramir.
 
2021-11-30 5:51:04 PM  
I cannot look at that f*cking Renner fella.  He has such a punchable face.
 
2021-11-30 5:51:13 PM  

xalres: Even the worst of the MCU shows are better than either season of Iron Fist


Staring at wall watching the paint dry is better than either season of Iron Fist.
 
2021-11-30 5:55:08 PM  

Rent Party: xalres: Even the worst of the MCU shows are better than either season of Iron Fist

Staring at wall watching the paint dry is better than either season of Iron Fist.


We finished that thing out of obligation more than anything else. The supporting cast was at least passable.
 
2021-11-30 5:57:52 PM  

xalres: Rent Party: xalres: Even the worst of the MCU shows are better than either season of Iron Fist

Staring at wall watching the paint dry is better than either season of Iron Fist.

We finished that thing out of obligation more than anything else. The supporting cast was at least passable.


Same.

I wonder how it would have worked if they had cast Lewis Tan instead of Pasty McSquishy, like they should have.
 
2021-11-30 6:27:58 PM  
I like it, BRO! Hailee is the shiat, BRO!
 
2021-11-30 8:12:31 PM  
I like Hawkeye's "I'm too old for this shiat" attitude.  Also, LARPing.  More LARPing.
 
2021-11-30 8:21:02 PM  

Mentat: I like Hawkeye's "I'm too old for this shiat" attitude.  Also, LARPing.  More LARPing.


Am I the only who thinks the dude that had the Ronin suit will appear again?
 
2021-11-30 8:49:17 PM  

NeoCortex42: It's Hawkeye.  I don't think it was ever going to do Loki or Mando numbers out of the gate.  I liked it, though.  I also think positive word of mouth will get people watching it as the series approaches its conclusion and afterward.


We saw the first two episodes and can't wait for the third. It was good. Not WandaVision level of good, but that's a VERY high bar.
 
2021-11-30 8:50:55 PM  

mongbiohazard: eagles95: I do like the fact that <spolier> he has hearing loss. It's honestly makes sense that this guy has been around all these explosions that he has some type of trauma.

I agree 100%. Details like that make the world feel more lived in and less cartoony - something important when talking about superhero shiat with space gods and stuff.

Hawkeye, at the least the first two episodes so far, is good. It's not Loki good, but it's still plenty good. A pretty, chill-ish, show for the holidays.


It's loads better than What If...?

You're right though. Loki was a pretty high bar too. Falcon and Winter Soldier wasn't bad either.
 
2021-11-30 8:51:46 PM  

drewogatory: I never read Young Avengers but think Hawkeye is pretty good so far. I like this and Loki better than any of the Netflix stuff, because they actually remember these are comics properties. Tapped out pretty early on FaTWS though, maybe I'll give it another shot.


It gets better.
 
2021-11-30 8:52:58 PM  

xalres: I'm enjoying it. I dig how it leans into the whole "lamest avenger" thing and has a bit of a lighter tone. The stakes seem about right too. Not every show/movie needs a world ending sky-hole.

Even the worst of the MCU shows are better than either season of Iron Fist, though I did like psycho-Faramir.


Rogers: the Musical was an inspired inclusion. Of course American media would trivialize the Avengers if they existed in real life.
 
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