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2021-11-30 11:08:17 AM  
Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.
 
2021-11-30 11:29:38 AM  

Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.


The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.
 
2021-11-30 11:34:57 AM  

Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.


That doesn't make it any less stupid.
 
2021-11-30 11:37:01 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.


And yet after the last set of movies came out it doesnt even rank in the top 1000 stupid things done in star wars
 
2021-11-30 11:41:27 AM  
I'm glad I don't came to Fark first for Star Wars stuff, you'd think everything sucked instead of just the sequel trilogy.
 
2021-11-30 11:44:17 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.


You know what's stupid?

C-3PO : In his belly you will find a new definition of pain and suffering as you are slowly digested over a thousand years.

Return of the Jedi
Screenplay: George Lucas
 
2021-11-30 11:44:19 AM  

Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.


It was still a stupid move to revive him.  One of the best parts of the character was that he was this amazing fan-favorite bounty hunter, but went out like a complete punk.  I always thought that was hilarious.

Of course, I do enjoy the character and look forward to seeing more of him, but I can still recognize that not letting him stay dead was a mistake.
 
2021-11-30 11:45:46 AM  

Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.


"you will find a new definition of pain and suffering, as you are slowly digested over a thousand years"

Why can't someone be rescued from that?  It doesn't kill you outright, you slowly die in its stomach.
 
2021-11-30 11:52:42 AM  

NeoCortex42: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

It was still a stupid move to revive him.  One of the best parts of the character was that he was this amazing fan-favorite bounty hunter, but went out like a complete punk.  I always thought that was hilarious.

Of course, I do enjoy the character and look forward to seeing more of him, but I can still recognize that not letting him stay dead was a mistake.


I can understand that argument even if I don't agree. I think the SW universe is better having him around. The short story, A Barve Like That: The Tale of Boba Fett, in the Tales From Jabba's Palace anthology is a damn good read that elaborates on what was going on in the pit when he fell, how he gets out, and how Dengar rescues him.
 
2021-11-30 11:56:35 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

"you will find a new definition of pain and suffering, as you are slowly digested over a thousand years"

Why can't someone be rescued from that?  It doesn't kill you outright, you slowly die in its stomach.


Sounds like dehydration would be the main worry, that new definition of pain and suffering would be a mild tingle.
 
2021-11-30 11:58:06 AM  
Boba Fett Wins | Robot Chicken | Adult Swim
Youtube So-YyfEUb1w
 
2021-11-30 11:59:07 AM  

Bslim: NeoCortex42: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

It was still a stupid move to revive him.  One of the best parts of the character was that he was this amazing fan-favorite bounty hunter, but went out like a complete punk.  I always thought that was hilarious.

Of course, I do enjoy the character and look forward to seeing more of him, but I can still recognize that not letting him stay dead was a mistake.

I can understand that argument even if I don't agree. I think the SW universe is better having him around. The short story, A Barve Like That: The Tale of Boba Fett, in the Tales From Jabba's Palace anthology is a damn good read that elaborates on what was going on in the pit when he fell, how he gets out, and how Dengar rescues him.


Yeah, I'm not too hung up on it or anything. There have been some post-Jedi EU stuff with him that was good and I'll definitely watch the new stuff.
 
2021-11-30 11:59:21 AM  
Quoth Lord Fett, "He's no good to me dead."  And he didst transport the nerf-herder to the fat one.
 
2021-11-30 12:02:43 PM  

Bslim: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

You know what's stupid?

C-3PO : In his belly you will find a new definition of pain and suffering as you are slowly digested over a thousand years.

Return of the Jedi
Screenplay: George Lucas


I'm not claiming Lucas is some brilliant wordsmith either.

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: "you will find a new definition of pain and suffering, as you are slowly digested over a thousand years"

Why can't someone be rescued from that?  It doesn't kill you outright, you slowly die in its stomach.


Because despite that line being stupid, the sarlaac pit was intended to be an incredibly awful and painful way to die.  Making falling into it (to borrow from pitch meeting) barely an inconvenience, just levels up the dumbness.
 
2021-11-30 12:08:43 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

You know what's stupid?

C-3PO : In his belly you will find a new definition of pain and suffering as you are slowly digested over a thousand years.

Return of the Jedi
Screenplay: George Lucas

I'm not claiming Lucas is some brilliant wordsmith either.

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: "you will find a new definition of pain and suffering, as you are slowly digested over a thousand years"

Why can't someone be rescued from that?  It doesn't kill you outright, you slowly die in its stomach.

Because despite that line being stupid, the sarlaac pit was intended to be an incredibly awful and painful way to die.  Making falling into it (to borrow from pitch meeting) barely an inconvenience, just levels up the dumbness.


Usually those who fell into it were either desert creatures or unfortunate victims of Jabba's sadism who were stripped of any weaponry. Fett fell in wearing full beskar, weaponry, and rocket pack.
 
2021-11-30 12:19:10 PM  

Bslim: wearing full beskar,


Ah, the old invincibility armor.
 
2021-11-30 12:24:09 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.


Why?  Because Jabba the Hutt is such a trustworthy character he couldn't be full of shiat about the sarlac pit?
 
2021-11-30 12:29:44 PM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: wearing full beskar,

Ah, the old invincibility armor.


It's called Plot Armor.
 
2021-11-30 12:31:31 PM  

Great_Milenko: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

Why?  Because Jabba the Hutt is such a trustworthy character he couldn't be full of shiat about the sarlac pit?


No, it's stupid because Star Wars writers can't seem to let go of dead characters. See: Darth Maul. The Star Wars universe is huge. Infinite, even. Just make up a new character instead of digging up dead ones. It cheapens every death in the stories if there's always a chance we'll find out later that they didn't really die if Disney/Lucasfilm needs them alive to sell more toys.
 
2021-11-30 12:33:35 PM  

Great_Milenko: Because Jabba the Hutt is such a trustworthy character he couldn't be full of shiat about the sarlac pit?


Why would he make shiat up about his chosen method of execution?
 
2021-11-30 12:52:55 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Great_Milenko: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

Why?  Because Jabba the Hutt is such a trustworthy character he couldn't be full of shiat about the sarlac pit?

No, it's stupid because Star Wars writers can't seem to let go of dead characters. See: Darth Maul. The Star Wars universe is huge. Infinite, even. Just make up a new character instead of digging up dead ones. It cheapens every death in the stories if there's always a chance we'll find out later that they didn't really die if Disney/Lucasfilm needs them alive to sell more toys.


Also, see: Palpatine
 
2021-11-30 1:41:21 PM  

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Robot Chicken's take on Boba Fett is the best and I wish it were canon.  I'll die on that hill.
 
2021-11-30 2:31:34 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

"you will find a new definition of pain and suffering, as you are slowly digested over a thousand years"

Why can't someone be rescued from that?  It doesn't kill you outright, you slowly die in its stomach.


What are the food and beverage selections like in the Sarlacc pit?  That is why that exchange is dumb
 
2021-11-30 2:45:16 PM  
Then repeat to yourself, "It's just a show.
I should really just relax."
 
2021-11-30 3:13:38 PM  

Chemlight Battery: Great_Milenko: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

Why?  Because Jabba the Hutt is such a trustworthy character he couldn't be full of shiat about the sarlac pit?

No, it's stupid because Star Wars writers can't seem to let go of dead characters. See: Darth Maul. The Star Wars universe is huge. Infinite, even. Just make up a new character instead of digging up dead ones. It cheapens every death in the stories if there's always a chance we'll find out later that they didn't really die if Disney/Lucasfilm needs them alive to sell more toys.


No see, here is where you make the biggest mistake of your ranting


Star wars let dead people stay dead. The EU only had Fett and clone palpatine come back. Otherwise they took the time and effort to be creative and actually write new characters and build the universe


Disney cannot let dead stay dead because they have no creative ideas left in the husk. The last 5 years of movies has made that plainly obvious to anyone intelligent. Make the proper distinction between the two
 
2021-11-30 8:16:00 PM  
Bslim:

Usually those who fell into it were either desert creatures or unfortunate victims of Jabba's sadism who were stripped of any weaponry. Fett fell in wearing full beskar, weaponry, and rocket pack.

This. The over-the-top description of the pit is made to an unarmed prisoner with his hands cuffed behind his back, and his also-handcuffed naked friend, who are to be executed. It is bizarre that anyone would insist that this means the pit itself MUST spell certain death to an unrestrained armed and armored henchman wearing a jet pack.
 
2021-11-30 11:19:38 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Bslim:

Usually those who fell into it were either desert creatures or unfortunate victims of Jabba's sadism who were stripped of any weaponry. Fett fell in wearing full beskar, weaponry, and rocket pack.

This. The over-the-top description of the pit is made to an unarmed prisoner with his hands cuffed behind his back, and his also-handcuffed naked friend, who are to be executed. It is bizarre that anyone would insist that this means the pit itself MUST spell certain death to an unrestrained armed and armored henchman wearing a jet pack.


I think you'd have to admit, though, that Star Wars has pulled the "surprise! They are still alive!" shenanigans too many times. Death means nothing in this fiction anymore. Jedi already don't really die, they just get more powerful. Darth Maul came back. Palpatine came back. Boba Fett came back. The only character I'm confident won't magically come back from the dead is Han Solo, and that's only because I know Harrison Ford doesn't want to play the role any more. That sort of meta-knowledge is what it takes for any death in Star Wars to feel final.
 
2021-11-30 11:46:02 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: This. The over-the-top description of the pit is made to an unarmed prisoner with his hands cuffed behind his back, and his also-handcuffed naked friend, who are to be executed. It is bizarre that anyone would insist that this means the pit itself MUST spell certain death to an unrestrained armed and armored henchman wearing a jet pack.


You've put way more thought into this than Lucas ever did.
 
2021-12-01 1:29:20 AM  

Chemlight Battery: I think you'd have to admit, though, that Star Wars has pulled the "surprise! They are still alive!" shenanigans too many times.


You think they are going to kill Luke, Leia or Han? It is a trope and over-used trope but it is standard in just about everything but Game of Thrones.
 
2021-12-01 2:51:54 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: This. The over-the-top description of the pit is made to an unarmed prisoner with his hands cuffed behind his back, and his also-handcuffed naked friend, who are to be executed. It is bizarre that anyone would insist that this means the pit itself MUST spell certain death to an unrestrained armed and armored henchman wearing a jet pack.

You've put way more thought into this than Lucas ever did.


Recalling an old movie scene doesn't feel like a lot of thought to me, but to each their own.
 
2021-12-01 3:13:27 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: This. The over-the-top description of the pit is made to an unarmed prisoner with his hands cuffed behind his back, and his also-handcuffed naked friend, who are to be executed. It is bizarre that anyone would insist that this means the pit itself MUST spell certain death to an unrestrained armed and armored henchman wearing a jet pack.

You've put way more thought into this than Lucas ever did.

Recalling an old movie scene doesn't feel like a lot of thought to me, but to each their own.


You're overthinking Star Wars.

Star Wars is dumb, and that's what makes it fun. Don't overthink it.
 
2021-12-01 6:21:31 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: This. The over-the-top description of the pit is made to an unarmed prisoner with his hands cuffed behind his back, and his also-handcuffed naked friend, who are to be executed. It is bizarre that anyone would insist that this means the pit itself MUST spell certain death to an unrestrained armed and armored henchman wearing a jet pack.

You've put way more thought into this than Lucas ever did.

Recalling an old movie scene doesn't feel like a lot of thought to me, but to each their own.

You're overthinking Star Wars.

Star Wars is dumb, and that's what makes it fun. Don't overthink it.


Recalling an old movie scene doesn't feel like overthinking to me, but to each their own.

/Now, straining to manufacture a plot hole out of sheer "woulda coulda shoulda" because you don't like the fact that one of the characters didn't die? That may be overthinking Star Wars.


Chemlight Battery: I think you'd have to admit, though, that Star Wars has pulled the "surprise! They are still alive!" shenanigans too many times.


The Palpatine example is a fair criticism IMO. Not because of the force-techno-magic (or alternatively, "somehow") explanation, but because his reappearance makes the *story* worse.

Fett is a minor utility character who could be fit into, or left out of, virtually any story in that universe; his death or survival doesn't matter.

Palpatine was the Big Bad of the original series, and undoing his defeat just so he can be summarily redefeated is poor writing that's emblematic of the franchise owners' reluctance to move beyond resets, retellings, prequels, origins, and filling in gaps.
 
2021-12-01 8:08:03 AM  

Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Making falling into it (to borrow from pitch meeting) barely an inconvenience, just levels up the dumbness.


You don't know how easy it was to escape it.  I like the notion from one of the short stories that the exploding sail barge crashed into it an injured it enough for Boba to fight his way out.
 
2021-12-01 11:35:07 AM  

Chemlight Battery: The only character I'm confident won't magically come back from the dead is Han Solo


Haven't seen Rise of Skywalker, eh?
 
2021-12-01 7:05:40 PM  

Bslim: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

You know what's stupid?

C-3PO : In his belly you will find a new definition of pain and suffering as you are slowly digested over a thousand years.

Return of the Jedi
Screenplay: George Lucas

I'm not claiming Lucas is some brilliant wordsmith either.

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: "you will find a new definition of pain and suffering, as you are slowly digested over a thousand years"

Why can't someone be rescued from that?  It doesn't kill you outright, you slowly die in its stomach.

Because despite that line being stupid, the sarlaac pit was intended to be an incredibly awful and painful way to die.  Making falling into it (to borrow from pitch meeting) barely an inconvenience, just levels up the dumbness.

Usually those who fell into it were either desert creatures or unfortunate victims of Jabba's sadism who were stripped of any weaponry. Fett fell in wearing full beskar, weaponry, and rocket pack.


Not to mention a small arsenal from all the skiff casualties. The fall itself was the biggest threat to Boba. The rest was easybake pancake.

And the whole "thousand year digestion" thing was marketing to make the Sarlaac more scary to the soon-departed. Myth and legend for the upsell.

If you heard all your life venus flytraps would bite your peepee off, you'd be more cautious around them regardless the truth.  Even if it just gave the tip a nibble and a kiss in practice.
 
2021-12-01 8:45:40 PM  

Bslim: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Bslim: Chemlight Battery: Boba Fett surviving the sarlacc pit was always the example I would use to explain how stupid the old Star Wars EU could be at its worst. Disney isn't any more creative than the worst EU writers.

The character got a raw deal in the film, his survival from the pit was a done deal approved by George himself within less than year of RoTJ when it was depicted in the official Marvel comics.

That doesn't make it any less stupid.

You know what's stupid?

C-3PO : In his belly you will find a new definition of pain and suffering as you are slowly digested over a thousand years.

Return of the Jedi
Screenplay: George Lucas


Well it sounds pretty awesome, like one of those third world dictator speeches where they claim grandiose things that will happen to all the heirs of infidels and traitors
 
2021-12-01 8:47:42 PM  

ReaverZ: Chemlight Battery: I think you'd have to admit, though, that Star Wars has pulled the "surprise! They are still alive!" shenanigans too many times.

You think they are going to kill Luke, Leia or Han? It is a trope and over-used trope but it is standard in just about everything but Game of Thrones.


They still brought back Jon Snow
 
2021-12-01 8:51:43 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: This. The over-the-top description of the pit is made to an unarmed prisoner with his hands cuffed behind his back, and his also-handcuffed naked friend, who are to be executed. It is bizarre that anyone would insist that this means the pit itself MUST spell certain death to an unrestrained armed and armored henchman wearing a jet pack.

You've put way more thought into this than Lucas ever did.

Recalling an old movie scene doesn't feel like a lot of thought to me, but to each their own.

You're overthinking Star Wars.

Star Wars is dumb, and that's what makes it fun. Don't overthink it.

Recalling an old movie scene doesn't feel like overthinking to me, but to each their own.

/Now, straining to manufacture a plot hole out of sheer "woulda coulda shoulda" because you don't like the fact that one of the characters didn't die? That may be overthinking Star Wars.


Chemlight Battery: I think you'd have to admit, though, that Star Wars has pulled the "surprise! They are still alive!" shenanigans too many times.

The Palpatine example is a fair criticism IMO. Not because of the force-techno-magic (or alternatively, "somehow") explanation, but because his reappearance makes the *story* worse.

Fett is a minor utility character who could be fit into, or left out of, virtually any story in that universe; his death or survival doesn't matter.

Palpatine was the Big Bad of the original series, and undoing his defeat just so he can be summarily redefeated is poor writing that's emblematic of the franchise owners' reluctance to move beyond resets, retellings, prequels, origins, and filling in gaps.


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