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2021-11-30 8:34:35 AM  
Leave us out of it.
 
2021-11-30 10:02:13 AM  
While I'm with edmo, I also realize that's not how alliances work. We've chained ourselves to Israel for the long haul. Nothing short of Congress voting to stop sending them money and suspending/cancelling all treaties with them will keep us from getting pulled into the shiat show (if it happen).
 
2021-11-30 10:20:28 AM  
טלפון חדש, מי זה?
 
2021-11-30 10:59:28 AM  

brokenbiscuits: While I'm with edmo, I also realize that's not how alliances work. We've chained ourselves to Israel for the long haul. Nothing short of Congress voting to stop sending them money and suspending/cancelling all treaties with them will keep us from getting pulled into the shiat show (if it happen).


Maybe, but there is no security or mutual defense treaty between the US and Israel so the US getting involved is not necessarily a fait accompli
 
Juc
2021-11-30 1:06:50 PM  
Do not want.
 
2021-11-30 1:07:27 PM  
Stop, my oil price meter only goes to $125. I need to change all the gauges across motherland.
 
2021-11-30 1:07:35 PM  
lol. Go fark yourselves, Israel. That sounds like a you problem. Leave your betters out of it.
 
2021-11-30 1:08:32 PM  
The talks that Israel has been openly trying to sabotage since Biden won the election?
 
2021-11-30 1:08:58 PM  
Let them fark off and fight their own wars.  Maybe they'll murder less brown civilians without their big brother ready, willing, and able to turn cities into parking lots.
 
2021-11-30 1:09:07 PM  
"Plan B"

It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now. They never made a plan?
 
2021-11-30 1:09:15 PM  

fragMasterFlash: טלפון חדש, מי זה?


Well, I haven't used this one lately:
Rick Roll
Youtube eBGIQ7ZuuiU
 
2021-11-30 1:10:03 PM  
Iran needs to just build the damn nuke and get it over with.  You can't enter into any deals with the US because the next guy will just chuck it.  There is no value in that.  Iran has to have noticed that the US does not fark with NK.  There's a simple reason for that.
 
2021-11-30 1:13:19 PM  
fark Israel. They used to be the good guys but now they are,most DEFINITELY,the bad guys. I say let it all burn.

(Sorry decent Israelis but you let the bad Israelis get away with too much for too long. So i have no sympathy left.)
 
2021-11-30 1:13:23 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now.


Sigh. I'll summarize myself from another thread because NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER AND THEY CONSTANTLY REPEAT THAT SAME TALKING POINT.

Here's what happens. Israel warns that Iran is getting close to the bomb and that Israel might have to take action. Iran gets close to the bomb. Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities. Iran is now further away from the bomb again. Then, Iran starts to work towards the bomb again.

Rinse and repeat. The issue is that, one day, Israel (or others) might not be able to stop Iran in time. And then the only option would be an open military attack.
 
2021-11-30 1:16:55 PM  
You want to see something sink a Biden Administration, have the US go to war with Iran
 
2021-11-30 1:21:12 PM  

bostonguy: HotWingConspiracy: It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now.

Sigh. I'll summarize myself from another thread because NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER AND THEY CONSTANTLY REPEAT THAT SAME TALKING POINT.

Here's what happens. Israel warns that Iran is getting close to the bomb and that Israel might have to take action. Iran gets close to the bomb. Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities. Iran is now further away from the bomb again. Then, Iran starts to work towards the bomb again.

Rinse and repeat. The issue is that, one day, Israel (or others) might not be able to stop Iran in time. And then the only option would be an open military attack.


Wow, what a load of shiat, bro.

Here's the reality :

Israel flat out lies that Iran is about to have a nuke in like 6 months and they want to drop it on Israel even though that's suicide.  Meanwhile, Israel has what, 200 nukes in contravention of nuclear armament agreements.

Because Israel wants Iran gone.  And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.
 
2021-11-30 1:21:13 PM  

bostonguy: HotWingConspiracy: It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now.

Sigh. I'll summarize myself from another thread because NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER AND THEY CONSTANTLY REPEAT THAT SAME TALKING POINT.

Here's what happens. Israel warns that Iran is getting close to the bomb and that Israel might have to take action. Iran gets close to the bomb. Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities. Iran is now further away from the bomb again. Then, Iran starts to work towards the bomb again.

Rinse and repeat. The issue is that, one day, Israel (or others) might not be able to stop Iran in time. And then the only option would be an open military attack.


Im sorry where does Israel get to decide who and which countries are OK to get nuclear weapons ? Considering Israel "stole" the tech from us and have never official declared themselves to be a nuclear armed country nor are they signers to the non proliferation treaties

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of​_​parties_to_the_Treaty_on_the_Non-Proli​feration_of_Nuclear_Weapons

You know who is on that list ? Iran
 
2021-11-30 1:21:21 PM  

brokenbiscuits: While I'm with edmo, I also realize that's not how alliances work. We've chained ourselves to Israel for the long haul. Nothing short of Congress voting to stop sending them money and suspending/cancelling all treaties with them will keep us from getting pulled into the shiat show (if it happen).


In Latin

Dum sum cum edmo, etiam scio quod societates non laborant. Israeli vincti sumus in longum bolum. Nihil deesse Congressus suffragii ferendi prohibere eos pecunias mittere ac suspendere

You probably can't guess who the Maccabees signed a mutual defense pact with after the victory over the Hannukah Greeks.

Just a few hundred years later the Romans were all over it.
 
2021-11-30 1:23:17 PM  
Ah that's too bad, well best of luck with it.
 
2021-11-30 1:23:50 PM  

bostonguy: HotWingConspiracy: It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now.

Sigh. I'll summarize myself from another thread because NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER AND THEY CONSTANTLY REPEAT THAT SAME TALKING POINT.

Here's what happens. Israel warns that Iran is getting close to the bomb and that Israel might have to take action. Iran gets close to the bomb. Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities. Iran is now further away from the bomb again. Then, Iran starts to work towards the bomb again.

Rinse and repeat. The issue is that, one day, Israel (or others) might not be able to stop Iran in time. And then the only option would be an open military attack.


Why?
 
2021-11-30 1:25:33 PM  

bostonguy: HotWingConspiracy: It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now.

Sigh. I'll summarize myself from another thread because NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER AND THEY CONSTANTLY REPEAT THAT SAME TALKING POINT.

Here's what happens. Israel warns that Iran is getting close to the bomb and that Israel might have to take action. Iran gets close to the bomb. Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities. Iran is now further away from the bomb again. Then, Iran starts to work towards the bomb again.

Rinse and repeat. The issue is that, one day, Israel (or others) might not be able to stop Iran in time. And then the only option would be an open military attack.


That sounds like idiot nonsense to me. They somehow always arrange their terrorist attacks against Iran just in time to stymie their progress for six months? And they've been doing this for decades? If they have this ability then an Iranian bomb was never a threat.

The reality is they've been bullshiatting and bluffing in the hope that someone would rid them of their Iran problem. Announcing they might start a war themselves is more bullshiatting and bluffing with the same goal.
 
2021-11-30 1:28:38 PM  

jethroe: bostonguy: HotWingConspiracy: It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now.

Sigh. I'll summarize myself from another thread because NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER AND THEY CONSTANTLY REPEAT THAT SAME TALKING POINT.

Here's what happens. Israel warns that Iran is getting close to the bomb and that Israel might have to take action. Iran gets close to the bomb. Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities. Iran is now further away from the bomb again. Then, Iran starts to work towards the bomb again.

Rinse and repeat. The issue is that, one day, Israel (or others) might not be able to stop Iran in time. And then the only option would be an open military attack.

Wow, what a load of shiat, bro.

Here's the reality :

Israel flat out lies that Iran is about to have a nuke in like 6 months and they want to drop it on Israel even though that's suicide.  Meanwhile, Israel has what, 200 nukes in contravention of nuclear armament agreements.

Because Israel wants Iran gone.  And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.


Considering that most of the Arab states have been aggressively normalizing relations with Israel and Israel/Jordan have been strengthening their economic ties for decades, I don't think that statement holds as much weight as you think.
 
2021-11-30 1:29:47 PM  

bostonguy: . Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities.


Which is a crime and/or act of war.
 
2021-11-30 1:31:54 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: bostonguy: HotWingConspiracy: It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now.

Sigh. I'll summarize myself from another thread because NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER AND THEY CONSTANTLY REPEAT THAT SAME TALKING POINT.

Here's what happens. Israel warns that Iran is getting close to the bomb and that Israel might have to take action. Iran gets close to the bomb. Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities. Iran is now further away from the bomb again. Then, Iran starts to work towards the bomb again.

Rinse and repeat. The issue is that, one day, Israel (or others) might not be able to stop Iran in time. And then the only option would be an open military attack.

That sounds like idiot nonsense to me. They somehow always arrange their terrorist attacks against Iran just in time to stymie their progress for six months? And they've been doing this for decades? If they have this ability then an Iranian bomb was never a threat.

The reality is they've been bullshiatting and bluffing in the hope that someone would rid them of their Iran problem. Announcing they might start a war themselves is more bullshiatting and bluffing with the same goal.


Let's also not forget that their best allies in the region are the farking SAUDIS.

You know, those wonderful guys who murdered and dismembered a WaPo reporter, who beat people in the streets if they're out during prayer time and who publicly behead people for adultery and "sorcery".  Plus, you know, were heavily implicated in that little 9/11 thing and who spread their crazy violent Wahhabism everywhere they can.
 
2021-11-30 1:32:46 PM  

SirGunslinger: jethroe: bostonguy: HotWingConspiracy: It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now.

Sigh. I'll summarize myself from another thread because NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER AND THEY CONSTANTLY REPEAT THAT SAME TALKING POINT.

Here's what happens. Israel warns that Iran is getting close to the bomb and that Israel might have to take action. Iran gets close to the bomb. Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities. Iran is now further away from the bomb again. Then, Iran starts to work towards the bomb again.

Rinse and repeat. The issue is that, one day, Israel (or others) might not be able to stop Iran in time. And then the only option would be an open military attack.

Wow, what a load of shiat, bro.

Here's the reality :

Israel flat out lies that Iran is about to have a nuke in like 6 months and they want to drop it on Israel even though that's suicide.  Meanwhile, Israel has what, 200 nukes in contravention of nuclear armament agreements.

Because Israel wants Iran gone.  And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.

Considering that most of the Arab states have been aggressively normalizing relations with Israel and Israel/Jordan have been strengthening their economic ties for decades, I don't think that statement holds as much weight as you think.


Fair enough, how about you name the states that have normalized relations with Israel.
 
2021-11-30 1:33:09 PM  

jethroe: Because Israel wants Iran gone. And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.


When you can't make a point with facts, just make shiat up, right?

Meanwhile, back in reality, TFA is about how Israel is building alliances with quite a few of its neighbors, due in large part to the fact that Iran has a long-standing habit of setting up troops, military installations, and missile facilities right outside of Israel's borders, well within striking distance of its major cities.
 
2021-11-30 1:33:14 PM  

Murkanen: The talks that Israel has been openly trying to sabotage since Biden won the election?


Bibi was, the current administration is cynical, but they are not actively trying to fark with it either. As shaky as the current government is, I doubt they would have the political will to get into an active conflict short of Iran actually launching direct attacks. I'm sure the Arabs would love to get Israel on their side in a hot conflict, but I doubt it would go much further than posturing.
 
2021-11-30 1:36:58 PM  

kindms: Im sorry where does Israel get to decide who and which countries are OK to get nuclear weapons ?


When one of those countries routinely, openly, and publicly threatens Israel with complete and utter annihilation, then Israel has ever right to stop them from getting The Bomb.
 
2021-11-30 1:37:39 PM  

thehobbes: bostonguy: . Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities.

Which is a crime and/or act of war.


When one of those countries routinely, openly, and publicly threatens Israel with complete and utter annihilation, then Israel has every right to stop them from getting The Bomb.
 
2021-11-30 1:38:38 PM  
Hey, I expect a nice clean bedsheet between us when we get farked.
 
2021-11-30 1:40:51 PM  

bostonguy: thehobbes: bostonguy: . Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities.

Which is a crime and/or act of war.

When one of those countries routinely, openly, and publicly threatens Israel with complete and utter annihilation, then Israel has every right to stop them from getting The Bomb.


So that justifies murdering civilians of a sovereign nation inside their own country?
 
2021-11-30 1:42:13 PM  

BigNumber12: jethroe: Because Israel wants Iran gone. And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.

When you can't make a point with facts, just make shiat up, right?

Meanwhile, back in reality, TFA is about how Israel is building alliances with quite a few of its neighbors, due in large part to the fact that Iran has a long-standing habit of setting up troops, military installations, and missile facilities right outside of Israel's borders, well within striking distance of its major cities.


"Right outside Israel's borders"?!?!  Oh my GOD.

Wait, isn't that also what we call "Iranian sovereign territory"?  How DARE those Iranian bastards put troops on the own territory?!?!
 
2021-11-30 1:42:58 PM  

jethroe: SirGunslinger: jethroe: bostonguy: HotWingConspiracy: It's weird because they've been telling everyone Iran is six months away from a bomb for 50 years now.

Sigh. I'll summarize myself from another thread because NO ONE SEEMS TO REMEMBER AND THEY CONSTANTLY REPEAT THAT SAME TALKING POINT.

Here's what happens. Israel warns that Iran is getting close to the bomb and that Israel might have to take action. Iran gets close to the bomb. Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities. Iran is now further away from the bomb again. Then, Iran starts to work towards the bomb again.

Rinse and repeat. The issue is that, one day, Israel (or others) might not be able to stop Iran in time. And then the only option would be an open military attack.

Wow, what a load of shiat, bro.

Here's the reality :

Israel flat out lies that Iran is about to have a nuke in like 6 months and they want to drop it on Israel even though that's suicide.  Meanwhile, Israel has what, 200 nukes in contravention of nuclear armament agreements.

Because Israel wants Iran gone.  And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.

Considering that most of the Arab states have been aggressively normalizing relations with Israel and Israel/Jordan have been strengthening their economic ties for decades, I don't think that statement holds as much weight as you think.

Fair enough, how about you name the states that have normalized relations with Israel.


UAE is allowing flights into Israel and encouraging tourism, Sudan and Morocco have recognized Israel and have received officials. The Saudis have been buy Israeli arms and sharing intel for about a decade now.

I doubt this is purely out of goodwill, but the Saudi crown prince wants to modernize Saudi Arabia (and its neighbors indirectly) and Israel is one of 4 countries that managed to go from economic maturity 1 to 5 in the span of several decades (USSR/Russia, China, and Taiwan being the other 3).
 
2021-11-30 1:43:16 PM  
Stuxnet attack via TikTok would be a modern solution to a modern problem.
 
2021-11-30 1:45:40 PM  

jethroe: BigNumber12: jethroe: Because Israel wants Iran gone. And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.

When you can't make a point with facts, just make shiat up, right?

Meanwhile, back in reality, TFA is about how Israel is building alliances with quite a few of its neighbors, due in large part to the fact that Iran has a long-standing habit of setting up troops, military installations, and missile facilities right outside of Israel's borders, well within striking distance of its major cities.

"Right outside Israel's borders"?!?!  Oh my GOD.

Wait, isn't that also what we call "Iranian sovereign territory"?  How DARE those Iranian bastards put troops on the own territory?!?!


Iran doesn't share a border with Israel unless there have been some MASSIVE geo-political developments with Syria/Jordan/Iraq that I don't know about.
 
2021-11-30 1:49:01 PM  
Maybe the U.S. shouldn't  have orchestrated  a coup in Iran.
 
2021-11-30 1:49:28 PM  

Ixnay on the ottenray: fragMasterFlash: טלפון חדש, מי זה?

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The already get military aid equivalent to the tune of about $50k per citizen. We don't need to fight another forever war in addition to that. They are the 40 year old child living in the basement demanding to be given the master bedroom, and that shiat don't fly, boss.
 
2021-11-30 1:50:45 PM  

Hooferatheart: Maybe the U.S. shouldn't  have orchestrated  a coup in Iran.


Ah the behest of the UK no less... Thanks British Petroleum!
 
2021-11-30 1:51:42 PM  
Iran wants to be the big regional power. The Arab countries outside of Syria and Iraq don't like the idea. So they are interested insulting with a country that doesn't want to take over the entire Middle East. Failing to see how this is evil.
 
2021-11-30 1:52:23 PM  

SirGunslinger: jethroe: BigNumber12: jethroe: Because Israel wants Iran gone. And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.

When you can't make a point with facts, just make shiat up, right?

Meanwhile, back in reality, TFA is about how Israel is building alliances with quite a few of its neighbors, due in large part to the fact that Iran has a long-standing habit of setting up troops, military installations, and missile facilities right outside of Israel's borders, well within striking distance of its major cities.

"Right outside Israel's borders"?!?!  Oh my GOD.

Wait, isn't that also what we call "Iranian sovereign territory"?  How DARE those Iranian bastards put troops on the own territory?!?!

Iran doesn't share a border with Israel unless there have been some MASSIVE geo-political developments with Syria/Jordan/Iraq that I don't know about.


So where exactly are the Iranians "setting up missile facilities right outside Israel's borders"?  Do you mean Hezbollah?

Because if Hezbollah isn't setting up defensive and offensive installation in Lebanon in anticipation of a possible Israeli attack, they're not doing their JOB.  Since, you know, Hezbollah already had to kick the IDF out of Lebanon many times before, most notably after Israel militarily occupied Lebanon for 15 years between 1985 and 2000.
 
2021-11-30 1:56:10 PM  

anuran: Iran wants to be the big regional power. The Arab countries outside of Syria and Iraq don't like the idea. So they are interested insulting with a country that doesn't want to take over the entire Middle East. Failing to see how this is evil.


Iran already is, there has been an Iran/Saudi proxy war going on for a decade now. It is part of the reason why the Arab states have been warming up with Israel with the quickness. Saudis would love nothing more than Israel getting into a hot war with Iran and Israel knows it. They won't take any action without a damn good justification for a number of domestic and international reasons.

I wouldn't put the Saudis and Iranians on a good/evil axis...
 
2021-11-30 2:05:24 PM  

jethroe: SirGunslinger: jethroe: BigNumber12: jethroe: Because Israel wants Iran gone. And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.

When you can't make a point with facts, just make shiat up, right?

Meanwhile, back in reality, TFA is about how Israel is building alliances with quite a few of its neighbors, due in large part to the fact that Iran has a long-standing habit of setting up troops, military installations, and missile facilities right outside of Israel's borders, well within striking distance of its major cities.

"Right outside Israel's borders"?!?!  Oh my GOD.

Wait, isn't that also what we call "Iranian sovereign territory"?  How DARE those Iranian bastards put troops on the own territory?!?!

Iran doesn't share a border with Israel unless there have been some MASSIVE geo-political developments with Syria/Jordan/Iraq that I don't know about.

So where exactly are the Iranians "setting up missile facilities right outside Israel's borders"?  Do you mean Hezbollah?

Because if Hezbollah isn't setting up defensive and offensive installation in Lebanon in anticipation of a possible Israeli attack, they're not doing their JOB.  Since, you know, Hezbollah already had to kick the IDF out of Lebanon many times before, most notably after Israel militarily occupied Lebanon for 15 years between 1985 and 2000.


I guess the Lebanese Christian militias and the UN were just sitting around and there totally wasn't a civil war going on in Lebanon across sectarian lines and Syria definitively was not occupying most of the country. Man your version sounds so simple when you ignore all the other circumstances and players involved.
 
2021-11-30 2:07:20 PM  

jethroe: BigNumber12: jethroe: Because Israel wants Iran gone. And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.

When you can't make a point with facts, just make shiat up, right?

Meanwhile, back in reality, TFA is about how Israel is building alliances with quite a few of its neighbors, due in large part to the fact that Iran has a long-standing habit of setting up troops, military installations, and missile facilities right outside of Israel's borders, well within striking distance of its major cities.

"Right outside Israel's borders"?!?!  Oh my GOD.

Wait, isn't that also what we call "Iranian sovereign territory"?  How DARE those Iranian bastards put troops on the own territory?!?!


You should probably look at a map.
 
2021-11-30 2:10:22 PM  
Sounds like a real hornet's nest they're getting ready to dick slap there. Let us know how that works out for ya.
 
2021-11-30 2:23:22 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Ixnay on the ottenray: fragMasterFlash: טלפון חדש, מי זה?

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The already get military aid equivalent to the tune of about $50k per citizen. We don't need to fight another forever war in addition to that. They are the 40 year old child living in the basement demanding to be given the master bedroom, and that shiat don't fly, boss.


Sorry - I should have been clearer.  The RickRoll was in answer to "who's dat?".  Nothing political, just failing to be funny.
 
2021-11-30 2:24:03 PM  
Oh sh*t! Is it that time already?

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2021-11-30 2:31:26 PM  

SirGunslinger: jethroe: SirGunslinger: jethroe: BigNumber12: jethroe: Because Israel wants Iran gone. And they need that sweet 3 billion dollars a year from the American taxpayer, so they need to inflate threats.

Pretty funny that according to Israel, every single one of their neighbors is evil and wants to destroy them.

If you live in a neighborhood where every single one of your neighbors hates your guts, it's not your neighbors that are the problem, it's YOU.

When you can't make a point with facts, just make shiat up, right?

Meanwhile, back in reality, TFA is about how Israel is building alliances with quite a few of its neighbors, due in large part to the fact that Iran has a long-standing habit of setting up troops, military installations, and missile facilities right outside of Israel's borders, well within striking distance of its major cities.

"Right outside Israel's borders"?!?!  Oh my GOD.

Wait, isn't that also what we call "Iranian sovereign territory"?  How DARE those Iranian bastards put troops on the own territory?!?!

Iran doesn't share a border with Israel unless there have been some MASSIVE geo-political developments with Syria/Jordan/Iraq that I don't know about.

So where exactly are the Iranians "setting up missile facilities right outside Israel's borders"?  Do you mean Hezbollah?

Because if Hezbollah isn't setting up defensive and offensive installation in Lebanon in anticipation of a possible Israeli attack, they're not doing their JOB.  Since, you know, Hezbollah already had to kick the IDF out of Lebanon many times before, most notably after Israel militarily occupied Lebanon for 15 years between 1985 and 2000.

I guess the Lebanese Christian militias and the UN were just sitting around and there totally wasn't a civil war going on in Lebanon across sectarian lines and Syria definitively was not occupying most of the country. Man your version sounds so simple when you ignore all the other circumstances and players involved.


https://medium.com/@djadan/israeli-jo​u​rnalist-ronen-bergman-reveals-his-coun​trys-terrorist-bombing-campaign-in-leb​anon-8a5d9ff7a2f2

There was a reason and Israel was right in the thick of it bombing civilians to justify an invasion.
 
2021-11-30 2:35:13 PM  

thehobbes: bostonguy: thehobbes: bostonguy: . Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities.

Which is a crime and/or act of war.

When one of those countries routinely, openly, and publicly threatens Israel with complete and utter annihilation, then Israel has every right to stop them from getting The Bomb.

So that justifies murdering civilians of a sovereign nation inside their own country?


When you've willingly let yourself be gaslighted into believing that someone is "6 months away" from 1950's technology for 40 years believing that terrorism is justified becomes easy.
 
2021-11-30 2:37:43 PM  

SirGunslinger: Hooferatheart: Maybe the U.S. shouldn't  have orchestrated  a coup in Iran.

Ah the behest of the UK no less... Thanks British Petroleum!


Sorry about that.

Our bad.
 
2021-11-30 2:41:41 PM  

thehobbes: bostonguy: thehobbes: bostonguy: . Israel (allegedly) assassinates nuclear scientists or sabotages nuclear facilities.

Which is a crime and/or act of war.

When one of those countries routinely, openly, and publicly threatens Israel with complete and utter annihilation, then Israel has every right to stop them from getting The Bomb.

So that justifies murdering civilians of a sovereign nation inside their own country?


If nuclear scientists are killed while working for the military for military purposes, they are not civilians.
 
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