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2021-11-29 9:13:15 PM  
So many questions...
 
2021-11-29 10:08:53 PM  
991 kids shot to death in 2019
1,375 in 2020
On pace to top that this year (1,165 as of 10/11 was the most recent number I could find)

Nice work, everyone.  If we keep working on our aim, we can probably top 1,500 next year.
 
2021-11-29 10:23:59 PM  

Naido: 991 kids shot to death in 2019
1,375 in 2020
On pace to top that this year (1,165 as of 10/11 was the most recent number I could find)

Nice work, everyone.  If we keep working on our aim, we can probably top 1,500 next year.


Are the guns OK?
 
2021-11-29 11:51:27 PM  
I thought he was supposed to aim for the boyfriend...?
 
2021-11-30 1:46:20 AM  
She shouldn't draw on her pa.
 
2021-11-30 1:47:48 AM  
Can you make a quadcopter out of one, like the cat thing?
 
2021-11-30 1:51:16 AM  
The real question Texans are asking themselves is whether or not they can still get the 10k Abbott Puritan bucks by turning him in for late term abortion.
 
2021-11-30 1:59:47 AM  
This could only happen from negligence, so why the fark aren't they charging the father?
 
2021-11-30 2:00:42 AM  
So Alec Baldwins Hunter Safety course is the new normal?
 
2021-11-30 2:18:11 AM  
I was scared for a minute that it might have been drugs that killed her but then I found out it was guns and I was like, whew, thank God.
 
2021-11-30 2:27:41 AM  
Kyle Rittenhouse already had a kid? That was fast.
 
2021-11-30 2:33:58 AM  

imaconnect4guy: This could only happen from negligence, so why the fark aren't they charging the father?


Throw the book at him. Negligence, child endangerment, reckless discharge of a firearm, manslaughter, etc.

If you want to own a gun, fine, but there should be serious consequences when you f*ck up.
 
2021-11-30 2:35:17 AM  
Jesus, what a horror story.
 
2021-11-30 2:50:07 AM  
accidentally negligently
 
2021-11-30 2:55:39 AM  
Not an accident. Stop calling it that.

I love how gun culture over and over preaches responsibility but when an 11 year old child gets blazed while hunting all responsibility leaves the building and it's an "accident".

The only way to kill another person while hunting for deer is to be a farking negligent asshole. You were either negligent with your firearm safety or you were negligent by shooting at something you could not see.
farking assholes.
 
2021-11-30 3:08:55 AM  

Trik: Jesus, what a horror story.


Why? The gun worked exactly the way it is supposed to.
 
2021-11-30 3:44:10 AM  
Did she at least apologize before dying?
 
2021-11-30 4:53:51 AM  
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2021-11-30 5:19:55 AM  

Naido: 991 kids shot to death in 2019
1,375 in 2020
On pace to top that this year (1,165 as of 10/11 was the most recent number I could find)

Nice work, everyone.  If we keep working on our aim, we can probably top 1,500 next year.


The United States is going to be the Shohei Otani of child killin by guns.
 
2021-11-30 5:31:53 AM  
The kid's name was Daisy Grace Lynn George, which sounds more like 4/5 of a basketball team than a name, so her chances at life were slim to begin with.
 
2021-11-30 5:36:34 AM  
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he was aiming at the mother in law.
 
2021-11-30 5:56:56 AM  
local reports out of Harrison County, Texas.

Ah, well yes, that explains it  No further questions.

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2021-11-30 6:09:01 AM  
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If it helps they didn't have seconds
 
2021-11-30 6:52:46 AM  
While sad, this was an accident just waiting to happen.

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2021-11-30 6:55:19 AM  
"Anytime a young person loses their life, it's tragic for all involved," Sheriff Brandon Fletcher said, according to the KFDM. "Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends during this difficult time."

Well, at least we got the obligatory thoughts and prayers.  I'm sure that's a comfort.
 
2021-11-30 7:01:22 AM  

imaconnect4guy: This could only happen from negligence, so why the fark aren't they charging the father?


You ain't from 'round here, is ya?  Take yer un-merican bullshiat back to where ya came from!
 
2021-11-30 7:27:39 AM  

The Crepes of Wrath: "Anytime a young person loses their life, it's tragic for all involved," Sheriff Brandon Fletcher said, according to the KFDM. "Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends during this difficult time."

Well, at least we got the obligatory thoughts and prayers.  I'm sure that's a comfort.


Don't forget they're going to wear her favorite color to school on Monday.

So she's got that going for her...

which is nice.
 
2021-11-30 8:05:08 AM  
D'oh!
 
2021-11-30 8:08:15 AM  
Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.
 
2021-11-30 8:27:13 AM  

LesserEvil: Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.


I read in a different article that they were heading home and he'd been clearing his rifle but apparently had one more round left than he'd thought. A simple mistake and an absolute tragedy I can't imagine what the family is going through right now.
 
2021-11-30 8:48:38 AM  

RTOGUY: LesserEvil: Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.

I read in a different article that they were heading home and he'd been clearing his rifle but apparently had one more round left than he'd thought. A simple mistake and an absolute tragedy I can't imagine what the family is going through right now.


I will not dismiss an accidental firing during a cleaning as a simple tragedy. It's absolutely avoidable with the simple measures of insuring the weapons is cleared before bringing it into a camper, vehicle, or other location with walls (where the weapon might discharge and hit a person through a wall). This crap is Basic Gun Safety 101. If you can't follow those measures, then don't own a gun. You cannot be trusted with a deadly weapon.
 
2021-11-30 9:00:23 AM  

X-Geek: The Crepes of Wrath: "Anytime a young person loses their life, it's tragic for all involved," Sheriff Brandon Fletcher said, according to the KFDM. "Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends during this difficult time."

Well, at least we got the obligatory thoughts and prayers.  I'm sure that's a comfort.

Don't forget they're going to wear her favorite color to school on Monday.

So she's got that going for her...

which is nice.


We are all about meaningless meaningful gestures, after all.
 
2021-11-30 9:00:36 AM  

LesserEvil: RTOGUY: LesserEvil: Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.

I read in a different article that they were heading home and he'd been clearing his rifle but apparently had one more round left than he'd thought. A simple mistake and an absolute tragedy I can't imagine what the family is going through right now.

I will not dismiss an accidental firing during a cleaning as a simple tragedy. It's absolutely avoidable with the simple measures of insuring the weapons is cleared before bringing it into a camper, vehicle, or other location with walls (where the weapon might discharge and hit a person through a wall). This crap is Basic Gun Safety 101. If you can't follow those measures, then don't own a gun. You cannot be trusted with a deadly weapon.


It's amazingly easy to make a gun safe and unable to fire. Removing the magazine and opening the action come to mind. And you still treat it as deadly. Any accidental discharge is criminal negligence.
 
2021-11-30 9:27:59 AM  

4th Horseman: The kid's name was Daisy Grace Lynn George


This must be the Texas branch of the House of Windsor.
 
2021-11-30 9:39:55 AM  

LesserEvil: RTOGUY: LesserEvil: Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.

I read in a different article that they were heading home and he'd been clearing his rifle but apparently had one more round left than he'd thought. A simple mistake and an absolute tragedy I can't imagine what the family is going through right now.

I will not dismiss an accidental firing during a cleaning as a simple tragedy. It's absolutely avoidable with the simple measures of insuring the weapons is cleared before bringing it into a camper, vehicle, or other location with walls (where the weapon might discharge and hit a person through a wall). This crap is Basic Gun Safety 101. If you can't follow those measures, then don't own a gun. You cannot be trusted with a deadly weapon.


Muzzle control - they beat that shiat into you for a reason as a kid in gun safety class
 
2021-11-30 10:37:06 AM  

LesserEvil: Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.


I know exactly what you mean.  I took my youngest son hunting for the first time a couple of weeks ago.  He just had a single shot 20-gauge shotgun that you had to pull back the hammer to make ready to fire.  He had set it down against a tree, and it fell over in the dirt.  He proceeds to pick it up, and as he was getting ready to look in the barrel to see if there was dirt in it, I promptly yelled at him.  In the middle of the woods.  While I know THAT gun wouldn't have fired, I don't want him to EVER get the idea that it's okay to look down the barrel of a gun.  And I'd rather miss out on a chance to get a deer than to ever let him risk getting shot.

Also, if she was in or near the house, there's no reason he should have been shooting that way.  And if she was in the woods when he was hunting, she should have had hunter's orange on.  AND the dad should have verified what he was shooting at BEFORE pulling the trigger.  That's a lesson I have made sure to try to teach my kids.  Make sure you absolutely know what's behind your target, and where that bullet will go when you fire.  And don't assume that anything short of a hundred year old oak or a hill will stop the bullet.
 
2021-11-30 10:39:14 AM  

Naido: 991 kids shot to death in 2019
1,375 in 2020
On pace to top that this year (1,165 as of 10/11 was the most recent number I could find)

Nice work, everyone.  If we keep working on our aim, we can probably top 1,500 next year.


But you don't understand, I *really* like to plink targets after church, so there's really nothing to be done, except buy more guns.
 
2021-11-30 10:42:26 AM  

LesserEvil: RTOGUY: LesserEvil: Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.

I read in a different article that they were heading home and he'd been clearing his rifle but apparently had one more round left than he'd thought. A simple mistake and an absolute tragedy I can't imagine what the family is going through right now.

I will not dismiss an accidental firing during a cleaning as a simple tragedy. It's absolutely avoidable with the simple measures of insuring the weapons is cleared before bringing it into a camper, vehicle, or other location with walls (where the weapon might discharge and hit a person through a wall). This crap is Basic Gun Safety 101. If you can't follow those measures, then don't own a gun. You cannot be trusted with a deadly weapon.


Well unlike the saints on Fark I can admit that I have made mistakes and poor choices and even have regrets. I've never done anything on the level of killing someone but I don't think it is helpful to crucify the guy over it when he is no doubt suffering enough already. This is a lesson for everyone else that will ever hold a gun and I think it is safe to say this guy has already learned it the hard way.
 
2021-11-30 10:48:28 AM  
FTFA: "In honor of Daisy George's favorite color all staff and students throughout the district are encouraged to wear purple tomorrow,"

Wouldn't it make more sense to use hunter orange?
 
2021-11-30 10:59:56 AM  

endmile: FTFA: "In honor of Daisy George's favorite color all staff and students throughout the district are encouraged to wear purple tomorrow,"

Wouldn't it make more sense to use hunter orange?


They would be working for TDOT then....too much paperwork.
 
2021-11-30 11:07:28 AM  
That's gonna make for an awkward Christmas.

Way to go, dumbfark.
 
2021-11-30 11:26:33 AM  

imaconnect4guy: This could only happen from negligence, so why the fark aren't they charging the father?


Bog standard reply:
"It is a difficult time so no reason to pile on the grief."

It's ridiculous, but for some reason in red states parents are never charged for their negligence with firearms, even if they directly caused the death or indirectly caused it by leaving a loaded firearm in the red around the house.

I think parents should be arrested for shiat like this, but they rarely do.
 
2021-11-30 11:38:02 AM  

omg bbq: Not an accident. Stop calling it that.

I love how gun culture over and over preaches responsibility but when an 11 year old child gets blazed while hunting all responsibility leaves the building and it's an "accident".

The only way to kill another person while hunting for deer is to be a farking negligent asshole. You were either negligent with your firearm safety or you were negligent by shooting at something you could not see.
farking assholes.


It's a facade.  They don't give a shiat, they "responsible gun owner" is just political theater.  They really don't give a shiat.  It just sounds good as an argument for why guns shouldn't be controlled.

But you can see it is all bullshiat with the people they lionize.  They sing the praises of people like the st. Louis dumbasses who were "targeted" by the gun grabbers.  Not only did those idiots who were "afraid of the mob" come out of their literal castle to confront said mob, they had their fingers on the triggers, they flagged eachother multiple times, and pointed the guns at people who weren't bothering them until they came outside.

They broke 3 of the 4 cardinal rules of "responsible gun owners" that these same people claim are hard and fast rules..... multiple times.  Like a whole lot of farking times.

Yet they make them out to be some sort of martyrs.

If they truly cared for and about "responsible gun ownership" they'd be attacking these people, or at the very least condemning their actions.

Instead they praise them.

Because it's not actually about responsible gun ownership, it's fulfilling their dreams of pointing guns at black people and feeling like Rambo.

I love me some guns.  I own a couple, but the current narrative and culture of gun ownership in the US is disgusting.

People like the St. Louis couple, Rittenhouse, and George Zimmerman shouldn't be heroes in the gun community.  They should be ostracized.  Nothing they did was responsible or praise worthy.
 
2021-11-30 11:47:41 AM  

RTOGUY: I read in a different article that they were heading home and he'd been clearing his rifle but apparently had one more round left than he'd thought.


Didn't know how many cartridges he had loaded, didn't know how many shots he took (if any).  Didn't visually and physically inspect the chamber while the bolt was withdrawn.  Didn't keep the rifle pointed in a safe direction (generally the ground) when pulling the trigger.

If you're going to CLEAN a bolt-action, first step (after clearing the rifle) is to remove the bolt.  Simply removing the bolt when you're not actively hunting would prevent such negligence.  Keeping the bolt separate and locked up from the rifle when stored would also prevent many in-home shootings.
 
2021-11-30 12:02:30 PM  

RTOGUY: LesserEvil: Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.

I read in a different article that they were heading home and he'd been clearing his rifle but apparently had one more round left than he'd thought. A simple mistake and an absolute tragedy I can't imagine what the family is going through right now.


A simple, yet entirely avoidable mistake. There are several thing you need to be doing wrong all at the same time for this to happen.
 
2021-11-30 12:06:57 PM  

RTOGUY: LesserEvil: RTOGUY: LesserEvil: Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.

I read in a different article that they were heading home and he'd been clearing his rifle but apparently had one more round left than he'd thought. A simple mistake and an absolute tragedy I can't imagine what the family is going through right now.

I will not dismiss an accidental firing during a cleaning as a simple tragedy. It's absolutely avoidable with the simple measures of insuring the weapons is cleared before bringing it into a camper, vehicle, or other location with walls (where the weapon might discharge and hit a person through a wall). This crap is Basic Gun Safety 101. If you can't follow those measures, then don't own a gun. You cannot be trusted with a deadly weapon.

Well unlike the saints on Fark I can admit that I have made mistakes and poor choices and even have regrets. I've never done anything on the level of killing someone but I don't think it is helpful to crucify the guy over it when he is no doubt suffering enough already. This is a lesson for everyone else that will ever hold a gun and I think it is safe to say this guy has already learned it the hard way.


This "lesson for everybody else" has been played over and over and over. Some people there is no getting through.
 
2021-11-30 12:32:59 PM  

Squid_for_Brains: I thought he was supposed to aim for the boyfriend...?


This is Texas. He was.

Texas needs its own tag. That is, unless everyone wearing purple Friday as planned fixes everything...
 
2021-11-30 2:58:05 PM  

TwowheelinTim: This "lesson for everybody else" has been played over and over and over. Some people there is no getting through.


Oh I'd imagine it's through to him now.  Quite thoroughly.  Bit too late though
 
2021-11-30 6:23:24 PM  

RTOGUY: LesserEvil: RTOGUY: LesserEvil: Well, she was coming right at him!

Seriously, though, you should not own a weapon, or be allowed to hunt if your first thought at movement in the brush means "shoot". When I used to hunt, there were times when you would see a deer (or a few), but you STILL wait until you can get a clear shot along the shoulderline of the animal, for a clean kill. In getting that shot, you definitely aren't going to find your buck has somehow turned into a child, unless you are on some serious  hallucinogenic drugs. If she's not dressed in hunters orange, that's also criminally negligent.

If this was an accidental firing, again, common sense means not chambering a round until you are actually hunting (most of the time, sitting in a spot, but sometimes while walking) - and if moving with a loaded gun, you make damn sure it's never pointed  in the direction of anybody else. Rifles should be easier to avoid pointing at specific things.

I read in a different article that they were heading home and he'd been clearing his rifle but apparently had one more round left than he'd thought. A simple mistake and an absolute tragedy I can't imagine what the family is going through right now.

I will not dismiss an accidental firing during a cleaning as a simple tragedy. It's absolutely avoidable with the simple measures of insuring the weapons is cleared before bringing it into a camper, vehicle, or other location with walls (where the weapon might discharge and hit a person through a wall). This crap is Basic Gun Safety 101. If you can't follow those measures, then don't own a gun. You cannot be trusted with a deadly weapon.

Well unlike the saints on Fark I can admit that I have made mistakes and poor choices and even have regrets. I've never done anything on the level of killing someone but I don't think it is helpful to crucify the guy over it when he is no doubt suffering enough already. This is a lesson for everyone else that will ever hold a gun and I thin ...


I knew someone would make this argument sooner or later.

I can understand the desire to show compassion and mercy in cases like this. It's probably the right choice but at the same time I'm tired of hearing stories about someone dying as a result of negligent and irresponsible use of firearms, whether that be killing someone while hunting or leaving a loaded firearm out where children could find it or shooting someone in anger over a wrong takeout order. If someone can't handle the responsibility of owning a firearm then perhaps they shouldn't have one.
 
2021-11-30 8:03:58 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: D'oh!


A DEER!
 
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