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2021-11-29 2:36:33 PM  
I was hunting for stuff to watch that would be entertaining but not taxing

He's got a point, that's what those movies were. Easy to follow plot, single bad guy, no last minute twists that require you to pay too close attention, etc. Sometimes you just want to relax and be entertained, not take notes on someone's magnum opus or pretend you understand whatever the hell the mumblecore movement was.
 
2021-11-29 2:56:06 PM  
The only thing that used to thrill my dad was a bottle of Gato negro
 
2021-11-29 3:16:17 PM  
movies where a guy has to yell to make himself heard over a helicopter

I've seen more movies like that than I can count.
 
2021-11-29 3:17:54 PM  

Lsherm: I was hunting for stuff to watch that would be entertaining but not taxing

He's got a point, that's what those movies were. Easy to follow plot, single bad guy, no last minute twists that require you to pay too close attention, etc. Sometimes you just want to relax and be entertained, not take notes on someone's magnum opus or pretend you understand whatever the hell the mumblecore movement was.


It's the cinematic iteration of aimless fake reality television - but that's not important right now.  And yeah, they were
 
2021-11-29 3:26:52 PM  
A damn fine genre, at that.
 
2021-11-29 3:27:23 PM  
So movies that still make sense if you fall asleep for half an hour in the middle of them?

ZZZZZZZZ* 'Oh look - Harrison Ford is kicking that much-younger man's ass. That makes me smile.'
 
2021-11-29 3:28:40 PM  
And I thought I was wasting my life.
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2021-11-29 3:35:36 PM  

moothemagiccow: And I thought I was wasting my life.
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Yeah, I got that far into skimming it when I noped out. Sadly, I don't think this is satire
 
2021-11-29 3:36:22 PM  
This is some thesis-level shiat and I'm here for it...
 
2021-11-29 3:38:54 PM  

kryptoknightmare: moothemagiccow: And I thought I was wasting my life.
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Yeah, I got that far into skimming it when I noped out. Sadly, I don't think this is satire


"Simplified" it says! I'm supposing the unabridged version looks a little like this:
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2021-11-29 3:53:16 PM  
I think my Dad saw every one of those movies.  If it had gratuitous explosions and a few tits, he'd watch it.  He wasn't a big fan of Michael Bay, though.  "Just bad movies no amount of explosions could save."
 
2021-11-29 3:54:01 PM  

youre killing independent george: This is some thesis-level ass-pullingshiat and I'm here for it...


WTF does Contact have in common with The Hunt for Red October?
 
2021-11-29 4:02:03 PM  

AdrienVeidt: youre killing independent george: This is some thesis-level ass-pullingshiat and I'm here for it...

WTF does Contact have in common with The Hunt for Red October?


According to the list he so delightfully pulled out of his ass, they both have "yes" as an answer to this question:

Is the advice or warning of the movie's hero going unheeded by feckless bureaucrats?
 
2021-11-29 4:02:55 PM  

AdrienVeidt: youre killing independent george: This is some thesis-level ass-pullingshiat and I'm here for it...

WTF does Contact have in common with The Hunt for Red October?


Conspiracies, an unexpected lone hero trying to solve a problem and talking to themselves a lot, Russians. They're basically the same movie.
 
2021-11-29 7:15:58 PM  
movies where a guy has to yell to make himself heard over a helicopter

Movies where someone says "I'm in" into a little radio.
 
2021-11-29 8:49:17 PM  
I remember seeing the trailer for Crimson Tide and thinking wow if this is the first 10 minutes it'll be the best movie ever. Eh it's okay but no Hunt For Red October.
 
2021-11-29 8:52:41 PM  
I notice that people consider Hunt For Red October to be a smart movie that doesn't spoon feed it's audience...but after you've seen it 20 times it's obviously 90 percent exposition. I want to produce a small town theater version of it someday, it's my life long dream.
 
2021-11-29 9:23:17 PM  
There's books too...
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2021-11-29 11:13:35 PM  
Oh, movies that dads like. I thought it would be about movies where dads kick ass, like the Taken series or Air Force One or maybe even Jingle All the Way. There's more than enough of those to consider it a whole genre.
 
2021-11-29 11:30:29 PM  

EdgeRunner: Oh, movies that dads like. I thought it would be about movies where dads kick ass, like the Taken series or Air Force One or maybe even Jingle All the Way. There's more than enough of those to consider it a whole genre.


I suspect there's a lot of overlap there.  The "father protecting/rescuing/avenging their daughter" genre plays amazingly to the dad crowd, and the nature of parenthood is such that it will play well long after the "wife/girlfriend/love interest as victim" trope falls out of favor.  "Big strong man protects weak vulnerable woman" is seen as a little sexist these days, but "father protects daughter" is timeless, even if the child in question is a grown adult.
 
2021-11-29 11:30:33 PM  

moothemagiccow: And I thought I was wasting my life.
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How's "The Terminator" and every other Ahnold Schwartenegger movie not on this? What about "True Lies"?
 
2021-11-29 11:44:22 PM  

Last Man on Earth: EdgeRunner: Oh, movies that dads like. I thought it would be about movies where dads kick ass, like the Taken series or Air Force One or maybe even Jingle All the Way. There's more than enough of those to consider it a whole genre.

I suspect there's a lot of overlap there.  The "father protecting/rescuing/avenging their daughter" genre plays amazingly to the dad crowd, and the nature of parenthood is such that it will play well long after the "wife/girlfriend/love interest as victim" trope falls out of favor.  "Big strong man protects weak vulnerable woman" is seen as a little sexist these days, but "father protects daughter" is timeless, even if the child in question is a grown adult.


I'd like to see more "mother protects child" movies. Liam Neeson plows through hordes of bad guys as efficiently as possible to get his kid back, but does anyone believe a mom would be so quick about it? Her targets would be begging for Neeson to show up and just put a bullet in them.
 
2021-11-29 11:52:13 PM  

EdgeRunner: Last Man on Earth: EdgeRunner: Oh, movies that dads like. I thought it would be about movies where dads kick ass, like the Taken series or Air Force One or maybe even Jingle All the Way. There's more than enough of those to consider it a whole genre.

I suspect there's a lot of overlap there.  The "father protecting/rescuing/avenging their daughter" genre plays amazingly to the dad crowd, and the nature of parenthood is such that it will play well long after the "wife/girlfriend/love interest as victim" trope falls out of favor.  "Big strong man protects weak vulnerable woman" is seen as a little sexist these days, but "father protects daughter" is timeless, even if the child in question is a grown adult.

I'd like to see more "mother protects child" movies. Liam Neeson plows through hordes of bad guys as efficiently as possible to get his kid back, but does anyone believe a mom would be so quick about it? Her targets would be begging for Neeson to show up and just put a bullet in them.


Depends on the age of the child.  A mother plays best with a young child, even a toddler or baby.  A father plays equally well with an older child.  Why is that significant?  Because the "older child" can easily be a grown adult (read: exactly the age that might have played the hero's love interest in those other movies), so the directors don't actually need to change anything with regard to the actress playing the kidnap victim/female lead.  Maybe less direct sexual tension, sure, but they can get away with the same amount of "gorgeous twenty-something with absolutely zero autonomy compared to the male lead."
 
2021-11-30 12:21:19 AM  

Last Man on Earth: EdgeRunner: Last Man on Earth: EdgeRunner: Oh, movies that dads like. I thought it would be about movies where dads kick ass, like the Taken series or Air Force One or maybe even Jingle All the Way. There's more than enough of those to consider it a whole genre.

I suspect there's a lot of overlap there.  The "father protecting/rescuing/avenging their daughter" genre plays amazingly to the dad crowd, and the nature of parenthood is such that it will play well long after the "wife/girlfriend/love interest as victim" trope falls out of favor.  "Big strong man protects weak vulnerable woman" is seen as a little sexist these days, but "father protects daughter" is timeless, even if the child in question is a grown adult.

I'd like to see more "mother protects child" movies. Liam Neeson plows through hordes of bad guys as efficiently as possible to get his kid back, but does anyone believe a mom would be so quick about it? Her targets would be begging for Neeson to show up and just put a bullet in them.

Depends on the age of the child.  A mother plays best with a young child, even a toddler or baby.  A father plays equally well with an older child.  Why is that significant?  Because the "older child" can easily be a grown adult (read: exactly the age that might have played the hero's love interest in those other movies), so the directors don't actually need to change anything with regard to the actress playing the kidnap victim/female lead.  Maybe less direct sexual tension, sure, but they can get away with the same amount of "gorgeous twenty-something with absolutely zero autonomy compared to the male lead."


There's definitely some problematic elements in the genre that Hollywood keeps reframing instead of removing, and the Taken series particularly finds ways to objectify and degrade the daughter under the guise of "Oh, that's just what the bad guys are doing, so you should really hate them! Not us, the filmmakers, who are clearly against such treatment of women since we're featuring Neeson exterminating all those bad, bad guys!"

It's one of the skeezier franchises, that's for sure.
 
2021-11-30 12:54:18 AM  

AdrienVeidt: youre killing independent george: This is some thesis-level ass-pullingshiat and I'm here for it...

WTF does Contact have in common with The Hunt for Red October?


My dad considered Contact to be "too hard sci-fi" for his dad tastes.
 
2021-11-30 2:30:01 AM  

EdgeRunner: Oh, movies that dads like. I thought it would be about movies where dads kick ass, like the Taken series or Air Force One or maybe even Jingle All the Way. There's more than enough of those to consider it a whole genre.


I actually thought at first it would be the Liam Neeson genre too. Wind River, anyone?
 
2021-11-30 6:18:33 AM  
Any movie where Tommy Lee Jones is barking instructions and pulling his pants up.
 
2021-11-30 9:00:54 AM  

EdgeRunner: Last Man on Earth: EdgeRunner: Oh, movies that dads like. I thought it would be about movies where dads kick ass, like the Taken series or Air Force One or maybe even Jingle All the Way. There's more than enough of those to consider it a whole genre.

I suspect there's a lot of overlap there.  The "father protecting/rescuing/avenging their daughter" genre plays amazingly to the dad crowd, and the nature of parenthood is such that it will play well long after the "wife/girlfriend/love interest as victim" trope falls out of favor.  "Big strong man protects weak vulnerable woman" is seen as a little sexist these days, but "father protects daughter" is timeless, even if the child in question is a grown adult.

I'd like to see more "mother protects child" movies. Liam Neeson plows through hordes of bad guys as efficiently as possible to get his kid back, but does anyone believe a mom would be so quick about it? Her targets would be begging for Neeson to show up and just put a bullet in them.


Catch Sally Field as a ruthless killer trying to get her daughter back in "Not Without My Daughter" ;-p
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